Why do Obama and his Supporters Hate the Constitution?Posted: June 30, 2008 Filed under: Uncategorized | Tags: first amendment, FISA, fourth amendment, obama and constitution, Obama Cheney Ticket, obama flip flop, second amendment 7 Comments
I‘m beginning to see more and more signs of the pathetic state of education these days. Either an awful lot of the Generation Obama kids were asleep during their Civics classes or they all hate the Constitution. Which amendment will this Constitutional Law Lecturer (on leave) and his minions dismiss next?
The First Amendment has always been my favorite. I’m particularly fond of exercising free speech and avoiding other people’s religions. I’m also all about peaceful assemblage (ask my local bartender) and petioning the government with grievances (ask my Senator she undoubtedly has a file cabinet of letters from me). The last few days, exercising free speech has been more difficult for some folks like me. This is because Senator Obama’s minions are more concerned with the appearance of unity than adherence to the Constitution.
“Did Google use its network of online services to silence critics of Barack Obama? That was the question buzzing on a corner of the blogosphere over the last few days, after several anti-Obama bloggers were unable to update their sites, which are hosted on Google’s Blogger service.”
There is much circumstantial evidence that some Obama supporters were trying to take down anti-Obama blog sites during Unitystock. There have been active threads and posts on this topic many places. I’ve been particularly interested because I do value the Constitution and because many of my friends and their right to free speech were silenced by google’s heavy hand. One of my friend’s GeekLove was a target. She was interviewed by many folks. It seems Obamatrons believe it was warranted. I gleaned this comment off of a No Quarter’s Thread.
Comment by Mort | 2008-06-30 12:00:31
Sometimes these bloggers would send out stupid chain e-mails or encourage their supporters to. Usually in support of Hillary.
They deserve to get dropped by Google!
I just want to stick a sic all over this comment, Mort. First, fragmented sentences are grammatically uncool. Also, telling folks they don’t have a right to support candidates or not support candidates in their own special way is just Unamerican uncool. Please go ask your civics teacher for a refresher course on the first amendment. Once you’re done with that, go find a good English teacher, you need one.
There are just many, many things wrong with shutting down sites during ‘unity’ week. First,well, it creates disunity. Second, it appears that you’re forcing unity. Third, well, again let’s get back to that constitution. You’re denying some one their right to free speech.
There was also denial of freedom of assembly. Obama campaign staff actively tried to remove protesters and their signs from the ‘unity’ marketing site. There are first hand accounts (and video) of Obama campaign staff both removing the right to peaceful assembly which is also an important part of the First Amendment but also trying to take the signs of those wishing to express disunity. Oh, that inconvenient first amendment. Check the video and threads on Riverdaughter’s The Confluence (http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/unity-through-purge/).
Then there’s the Obama shuffle concerning the Second Amendment. Does he or doesn’t he support the right to bear arms with restrictions, no restrictions, or some restrictions. Well, like many Obama positions, it depends on the day you ask him. This from ABC’s Legalities (http://blogs.abcnews.com/legalities/2008/02/obama-and-guns.html).
“There’s been a long standing argument among constitutional scholars about whether the 2nd Amendment referred simply to militias or whether it spoke to an individual right to possess arms,” Obama said. “I think the latter is the better argument. There is an individual right to bear arms, but it is subject to common-sense regulation just like most of our rights are subject to common-sense regulation.” Watch Obama’s comments HERE.
He declined, just as the Bush Administration did, to take a position on whether the DC gun ban violates the 2nd Amendment. He said instead that states and cities should have broad latitude to regulate guns—even if the Constitution guarantees an individual right to own them.
“The city of Chicago has gun laws, so does Washington, DC,” Obama said. “The notion that somehow local jurisdictions can’t initiate gun safety laws to deal with gang bangers and random shootings on the street isn’t borne out by our Constitution.”
Now that sure sounds like someone who thinks the handgun bans would be a reasonable restriction under the 2nd Amendment. However there is this quote too from the same source.
“A day after the tragic shootings at NIU, Barack Obama has revealed that he thinks the 2nd Amendment protects an individual’s right to own a gun.
That sounds surprising—and certainly not what you’d expect from someone with the Senate’s most liberal voting record”
Okay, this is the same article. Can some one tell me which version of the second amendment he just endorsed?
I’m going straight to Daily Kampf for Obama and the Fourth Amendment. I just can’t resist when a cheeto blogger recognizes the way Obama will sell out the constitution for a little peace and harmony in Congress. The Cheeto bloggers love them some Fourth Amendment.
You can’t selectively support the Constitution, Senator Obama
Color me unimpressed with Senator Obama’s statement with respect to the FISA “compromise”.
There are a number of things that he could have done to take a stand for the very Constitution that he is running to “preserve, protect and defend”.
That’s THREE amendments down and what, 22 to go?
So, my suggestion to Obama during his vice presidential selection vetting is to go ahead and keep Dick Cheney. After all, Obama and Cheney appear to both have similar feelings about the constitution.
Women under Carriages, under Street Cars, and under BusesPosted: June 29, 2008 Filed under: Uncategorized | Tags: abigail adams, American Women and the DNC, civil rights movments, equal pay for women, equal rights for women, ERA, feminism, Feminists, Seneca Falls Convention, Shirley Chisolm, Susan B Anthony, Under the bus, Women, women UNDER THE BUS, Women's Rights 38 Comments
“If particular care and attention is not paid to the ladies we are determined to foment a rebellion, and will not hold ourselves bound by any laws in which we have no voice or representation.”
Important anniversaries are on us. This quote by the second first lady of the United States, Abigail Adams, is as fresh and pertinent as it was when she penned this in a letter to her husband in 1776.
From the birth of this country down to present day, women are the forgotten citizens. When they assert their rights, some war, some other movement, a disease, some other man or even the rights of proto-humans are placed before them and many just fall in. We take care of our gay brothers suffering from aids while the last few states fail to ratify the ERA. We support the abolition movement to free and give rights to Black Americans and votes to black men while we’re considered property way into the 1970s and cannot achieve the vote until 1920. We march. We do all the behind the scene work and organizing. Then, when we ask for the vote, for our place in governing, for our right to lead, we are told that would be expedient to larger movements. This is true of black civil rights movements, labor movements, peace movements or antiwar movements, and the founding of our nation and so ad infinitum.
We are not only approaching our annual celebration of Independence Day. We have come upon the 160th anniversary of the Seneca Falls Convention. The women who met during that July suggested this addition to the Declaration of Independence and penned their own tome the Declaration of Sentiments.
It was signed by a number of women leaders including Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Lucretia Mott. The first women’s rights conference in the United States Convention was held in Seneca Falls, New York on July 19 and 20, 1848. Few will be celebrating this historic gathering or probably even know of it. One hundred and sixty years after the convention, the equality that Elizabeth Cady Stanton demands still eludes us.
“The eloquent Frederick Douglass, a former slave and now editor of the Rochester North Star, however, swayed the gathering into agreeing to the resolution. At the closing session, Lucretia Mott won approval of a final resolve “for the overthrowing of the monopoly of the pulpit, and for the securing to woman equal participation with men in the various trades, professions and commerce.”
This is the same Frederick Douglass who later threw women under the carriage for Black male suffrage. In 1869, an amendment was proposed to Congress that guarantees “The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.”
Douglass told women to wait since it was easier to get the proposed amendment through congress if it guaranteed black males the right to vote, but not women. This is exactly what happened. Women had to wait.
For over two centuries, American women had few civil or political rights. Wives had to do what they were told by their husband. Until 1884, a wife was officially listed as one of her husband’s possessions. Women stayed slaves for years after the emancipation proclamation was signed.
When I was at university, I noticed this strange pattern. Every time women say it is our turn to be recognized for all this work and we deserve equal pay, equal rights, and equal respect, men change the subject and put some other movement in between us. If you look through history, many women’s rights movements have been cast aside for peace movements or labor movements and later for civil rights movements that basically favored the rights of gay men or black men.
When asked what the role of women was in the Black Panther Movement, the answer was: “The only role for women in this movement is horizontal.” This continual divide and conquer strategy has left us waiting at bus stops for buses that we are later thrown under. Much of the impetus of the women’s movement in the 70s was distilled to civil rights for gays after Stonewall and the Aids crisis. Gay bashing and Aids struck gay men hard but much of the work and nursing was done by lesbians who abandoned the fight for the ERA and protection of the sanctity of women’s individuality as the religious right’s attempts to water down Roe v. Wade increased the humanity of proto-human life while decreasing that of breathing, living women.
The odd thing is that none of these movements are bad causes. The development of a democratic nation, peace, abolition, Aids research, or suffrage for black men all have merit. The fact that these are ALL good causes is not what bothers me. The larger point to me is that these movements sprung up during active women’s rights movements and suddenly took precedence.
Senator Shirley Chisholm has always been one of my personal heroines and clearly recognized that women’s rights were not a priority for this nation. She was always quick to note that she had experienced more sexism in her life than racism. Please read what this great champion of women’s rights said as she fought for passage of the ERA.
“Mr. Speaker, House Joint Resolution 264, before us today, which provides for equality under the law for both men and women, represents one of the most clear-cut opportunities we are likely to have to declare our faith in the principles that shaped our Constitution. It provides a legal basis for attack on the most subtle, most pervasive, and most institutionalized form of prejudice that exists. Discrimination against women, solely on the basis of their sex, is so widespread that is seems to many persons normal, natural and right.
Legal expression of prejudice on the grounds of religious or political belief has become a minor problem in our society. Prejudice on the basis of race is, at least, under systematic attack. There is reason for optimism that it will start to die with the present, older generation. It is time we act to assure full equality of opportunity to those citizens who, although in a majority, suffer the restrictions that are commonly imposed on minorities, to women.
Whenever women make progress, men step in with some other distraction and create disunity. I see this same pattern today in the Democratic Party ONE HUNDRED and SIXTY years after the Seneca Falls Convention and well over TWO HUNDRED years after Abigail Adams.
Women, please stop and think about this before you donate your time to peace movements, misc. civil rights movements, ANY kind of movement. We are the work horses of all of these movements, yet how many of these movements turn around and provide us ANYTHING but lip service? Think of the DNC, what have they done recently to stop the hemorrhage of reproductive rights? support equal pay laws? stop SEXIST attacks on women candidates? Which women in this system (yes, YOU Nancy Pelosi, yes, You Candy Crowely, yes, you Cindy Sheehan, yes, you Donna Brazille, yes YOU, Governor Sibilius, yes YOU Senator Mary Landrieu, yes you Secretary of State Rice,yes, YOU Gloria Borger, …) will willingly sell out their own sex to be acceptable to the boys and get recognition in a movement or a profession not of our own design whose rules are set up so that we ultimately fail.
Just THINK ABOUT IT when you celebrate this Fourth of July. Look at your daughters, your mothers, your grandmothers, your granddaughters, and the women around you and THINK about it. What movement did I join that stopped me from asking for basic human and democratic rights for women? Think about what happened to Hillary Clinton this primary season and ASK yourselves will you compromise YET again?
How much is that compromise worth to you?
Bill Clinton is a PUMA!Posted: June 28, 2008 Filed under: Uncategorized | Tags: Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton is a PUMA, DNC NO UNITY, JUST SAY NO OBAMA, No Obama, OBAMA NO DEAL, PUMA 83 Comments
From the UK Telegraph:
Bill Clinton says Barack Obama must
‘kiss my ass’ for his support
Bill Clinton is so bitter about Barack Obama’s victory over his wife Hillary that he has told friends the Democratic nominee will have to beg for his wholehearted support.AP
Mr Obama is expected to speak to Mr Clinton for the first time since he won the nomination in the next few days, but campaign insiders say that the former president’s future campaign role is a “sticking point” in peace talks with Mrs Clinton’s aides.
The Telegraph has learned that the former president’s rage is still so great that even loyal allies are shocked by his patronising attitude to Mr Obama, and believe that he risks damaging his own reputation by his intransigence.
A senior Democrat who worked for Mr Clinton has revealed that he recently told friends Mr Obama could “kiss my ass” in return for his support.
A second source said that the former president has kept his distance because he still does not believe Mr Obama can win the election.
Mr Clinton last week issued a tepid statement, through a spokesman, in which he said he “is obviously committed to doing whatever he can and is asked to do to ensure Senator Obama is the next president of the United States “.
Mr Obama was more effusive at his unity event with Mrs Clinton on Friday, speaking fondly of the absent former president, who attended Nelson Mandela’s birthday celebrations in London instead. The candidate told the crowd: “I know how much we need both Bill and Hillary Clinton as a party. They have done so much great work. We need them badly.”
But his aides said he has so far concentrated on cementing relations with Mrs Clinton first. They say they are content to let relations with Mr Clinton thaw gradually.
It has long been known that Mr Clinton is angry at the way his own reputation was tarnished during the primary battle when several of his comments were interpreted as racist.
But his lingering fury has shocked his friends. The Democrat told the Telegraph: “He’s been angry for a while. But everyone thought he would get over it. He hasn’t. I’ve spoken to a couple of people who he’s been in contact with and he is mad as hell.
“He’s saying he’s not going to reach out, that Obama has to come to him. One person told me that Bill said Obama would have to quote kiss my ass close quote, if he wants his support.
“You can’t talk like that about Obama – he’s the nominee of your party, not some house boy you can order around.
“Hillary’s just getting on with it and so should Bill.”
Another Democrat said that despite polls showing Mr Obama with a healthy lead over Republican John McCain, Mr Clinton doesn’t think he can win.
The party strategist, who was allied to one of the early rivals to Mr Obama and the former First Lady, said Mr Clinton was “very unhopeful” about the nominee’s prospects in November.
“Bill Clinton knows the party will unite behind Obama, but he is telling people he doesn’t believe Obama can win round voting groups, especially working-class whites, in the swing states,” the strategist said.
“He just doesn’t think Obama will be able to connect with the voters he needs.”
Joe Klein, the author of Primary Colours, a fictionalised account of Mr Clinton’s 1992 election, who has known the former president for 20 years, said he also heard that he was “very, very bitter”, from people who have spoken with him.
Have I mentioned enough on this blog yet HOW MUCH I LOVE THE BRITS?
“It’s time for him to get over it or go off and do his charitable work. He knows the rules of the road. What’s going on now is kind of strange. I think his behaviour is really, really shocking.”
Party Unity My ASS!Posted: June 27, 2008 Filed under: Uncategorized | Tags: disunity, just say no deal, No Obama, PARTY UNITY MY ASS, PUMA, unity 3 Comments
While Bill was held captive in some undisclosed area in Europe, Hillary Clinton put on her best Democratic face and blue pantsuit then joined the legions of Obama Fluffers. The big question now remains. How many deadenders are out there that are not buying this unity marketing campaign? It appears the Puma Rebellion is now big enough that all the MSM channels and even news papers are noticing. Yesterday, it was the WaPo. ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/26/AR2008062604162.html) Today, even CNN’s Wolf Blitzer got into the act.
Suddenly, those of us in the PUMA roots were being courted for press interview. We know the Obama campaign has poured over our sites and when you look threatening enough, assigns you an Obama Troll of your very own. Our presence has been duely noted, but has not ranked up there enough with sites like No Quarter to achieve multi-trolling.
My mother used to say that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. This was her way of saying my tongue was way too sharp. Obama’s minions will occasionally try the honey: But Hillary says she’s supporting him! (Yeah, I know, most of them are still probably virgins with lines like that!) ALL the KIDS are DOING IT!!!! But generally, they ramp up shortly to thwapping you with race cards and nasty labels. Then the nasty Republican policies enter the equation. Problem is that John McCain isn’t your standard Republican and Obama has no record to run on. The only thing you have is his word, and gee his word on FISA, public financing, hand gun bans or nonbans, Iran (threat or no threat), and unconditional well, maybe not so unconditional chatting with despots still has me wondering if Obama really knows the meaning of the word truth.
Here’s an NPR editorial. This is the beginning, hopefully, of the Media taking a real hard look at Obama the way that those of us in the PUMA movement have.
So, anyway, there are many folks out there trying to get a headcount on us. Latest thing I saw on statistics said that about 25% of original Hillary supporters are saying no to Obama and perhaps an additional 10% haven’t figured out what to do yet. DNC pundits are pounding home historical trends of chicks coming home to the roost prior to the GE. The Baltimore Sun had a great article on this called “Painful Lessons” by Dr. Lynette Long. She outlines the things she’s learned during the Hillary run for President.
Among the most interesting points in the article is the belief held by the DNC that women will return and vote Obama because they have no place else to go. They think we’ll just go along with their less-than-evil party niche.
“Women voters are not factored into the decision making of the Democratic National Committee. The DNC is concerned that black voters will protest and stay home if Senator Clinton gets the nomination, even though she is the stronger and more electable candidate. But the DNC doesn’t worry that white women, three times larger than the combined black vote, will stay away from the polls if Mrs. Clinton does not get the nomination. They expect the white women of the party to fall in step and vote for Mr. Obama in the general election. ”
This is one chick that is not coming home to roost and I think that the DNC is about to find out that many women have had it with being taken for granted. Twenty-five percent of 18 million voters is a heck of a lot of people. Perhaps this sudden awareness of PUMA and JUST SAY NO DEAL and the huge number of MSM articles is due to the number of women responding with utter frustration to their prior sexist and nasty articles and blogs with “PUMA BOMBS”. This is the PUMA response to the seemingly endless cut and paste political points that have flooded the Hillary blogs and sites for months now. The difference is that we’re not being paid for it. Obama’s blog trolls are salaried. If you watch some of the larger sites (like No Quarter) you can even tell when their shifts change. The message of the day is pretty much the same and their tactics are similar.
PUMA is an interesting rebel movement. I’ve long said that I have felt the stirrings of a new women’s movement only to be belittled with charges that it could neve result in a backlash quasi-championed by the Anti-choice McCain with his surly sexist jokes and insulting names for women, including wife Cindy. However, this belies the major point. It’s a backlash and a protest. No one said that actions rooted in anger and injustice make sense. They are results driven more than dogma driven.
The biggest thing I’ve noticed about the PUMA movement that is ignored by the Obama folks is the incredible amount of diversity in the ranks. It is not a movement of just white women. There are women of many backgrounds as well as many men. I can provide blog names of gay men, African Americans, Asian-Americans, straight men, Americans of middle eastern and Indian descent, Native Americans, and every flavor of Latin/Hispanic American possible. Here’s a link to Riverdaughter’s The Confluence showing a MAWN speaking to Fox and protestors at the unity event that includes (shock!) ANTI WAR PROTESTORS!
Many of us (including me) have signed up for the movement and are in for the long haul. We cannot sit idly by and watch the DNC make a mockery of the democratic process.
Nancy and Howard and Barrack and Harry: PARTY UNITY MY ASS! Ignore us at your own peril!
Some Positive Steps to Support a Great WomanPosted: June 27, 2008 Filed under: Uncategorized | Tags: Denver Group, Heidi Li, Hillary in Denver, Independence Day for Hillary, Marc Rubin, Pay Off Hillary's Debt Comments Off on Some Positive Steps to Support a Great Woman
There are several things going on with Hillary’s campaign that I’d like to highlight this morning. A lot of the credit for this goes to my friend Heidi Li who has been endless in her support of Hillary’s candidacy. First, let me show you this great Youtube made by my friend GeekLove. After you see it I’d like to encourage you to help Hillary pay off her debt. You’ll reach Heidi’s site if you click on the pretty Hillary Poster in the sidebar.
I’d like to encourage you this Independence Day to help Hillary become independent. She’s asking not for money to pay off the millions of dollars she’s donated to her campaign, but for money to pay the remaining bills to vendors. She kept her promise to us and I’d just like to encourage you to support her hard work and commitment to us.
The second item is for a project started by Heidi and Marc Rubin (great blogger of Tom in Paine). It is called the Denver Project. It’s purpose is to ensure that the continued DNC dirty tricks against Hillary don’t continue into the Denver Convention.
This is the link to this very good site:
The Denver Group has been formed to insure that the Democratic National Committee respect and carry out the democratic process at the convention in Denver this August by meeting certain specific goals. We will be advocating, and if neccessary pressuring, through purchased mass media as well other accepted avenues, the Democratic National Committee to see to it that these goals and the interests of tens of millions of Democratic voters are met.
Our goals are:
An open convention.
Senator Clinton’s name on the ballot
Speeches allowed by supporters of Senator Clinton on
behalf of her candidacy.
A roll call vote.
Our email address: The Denvergroup@Gmail.com
There are HOTLINKS for all of these efforts and blogs in the sidebars.