Thursday Reads: Romney’s Lies, Debt Ceiling Showdown, and Dimonfreude

Good Morning!

On Tuesday night I wrote a brief post about the bizarre speech Mitt Romney gave in Des Moines, Iowa earlier that day. I was struck by Romney’s childish effort to get at President Obama by talking about Bill Clinton’s economic policies and claiming that Obama must have ignored those policies because he has some kind of grudge against both Clintons. It was so strange and off key that I thought Romney sounded like a crotchety old busybody gossiping over the backyard fence.

I didn’t really even go into the many baldfaced lies Romney told in the speech–I guess I’ve become so accustomed to his total refusal to confine himself to reality as it is that I almost don’t notice it anymore. Basically, Romney attacked Obama the deficit that was primarily created by Bush, and made his usual claims that he (Romney) will be able to cut taxes by 20 percent, increase defense spending, and at the same time magically balance the budget and dramatically reduce unemployment. Only a moron would buy what he’s selling.

Yesterday, a number of bloggers commented on that speech, so I thought I’d share some of those reactions in this morning’s reads.

Steve Benen at Maddowblog: A peek into an alternate reality.

Mitt Romney delivered a curious speech in Iowa yesterday, presenting his thoughts on the budget deficit, the debt and debt reduction, which is worth reading if you missed it. We often talk about the problem of the left and right working from entirely different sets of facts, and how the discourse breaks down when there’s no shared foundation of reality, and the Republican’s remarks offered a timely peek into an alternate reality where facts have no meaning.

Even the topic itself is a strange choice for Romney. If the former governor is elected, he’ll inherit a $1 trillion deficit and a $15 [trillion] debt, which he’ll respond to by approving massive new tax cuts and increasing Pentagon spending. How will he pay for this? No one has the foggiest idea.

In other words, the guy who intends to add trillions to the debt gave a speech yesterday on the dangers of adding trillions to the debt.

Benen says he doesn’t believe Romney is “stupid,” but he must be “operating from the assumption that voters are stupid.” I’d say that’s true. I think Romney believes that he’s much smarter and more worthy than just about anyone and that poor and middle-class people are beneath contempt.

Jonathan Cohn at The New Republic: Romney’s Make-Believe Story on the Economy. Cohn writes about Romney’s claims that Obama’s failure to reduce the deficit is the cause of the “tepid recovery,” unemployment, and the struggles of seniors to get by on fixed incomes.

Note the way Romney establishes cause and effect here: Obama’s contribution to higher deficits are the reason more people can’t get work and more seniors can’t make ends meet right now. This is an audacious claim and, while I’m no economist, I’m pretty sure it places Romney on the outer edges of the debate among mainstream scholars.

I know of serious conservatives who think the Recovery Act, which has increased deficits temporarily, didn’t ultimately do much to create jobs in the near term. And I know of serious conservatives who think that creating jobs now wasn’t worth the long-term downside of adding to the federal debt, however incrementally. Both viewpoints seem to represent minority views, if a recent University of Chicago survey of leading economists is indicative. But the arguments have at least some logic to them.

But Romney’s suggestion that unemployment today is a consequence of Obama’s contribution to the deficit (real or imagined) requires further leaps of logic. You’d have to argue, for example, that extensions of unemployment benefits have reduced incentives to work (despite research to the contrary) and that such negative effects substantially outweigh the positive effects of traditional stimulus measures. It’s not impossible to make this case. I think Casey Mulligan, also of the University of Chicago, has written things along these lines for the New York Times. But, unless I’m missing something, that argument is even more marginal than suggestions the Recovery Act didn’t help at all.

I suspect that even Cohn’s effort to make sense of Romney’s fantasy economic theory will have Dr. Dakinikat pulling her hair out.

Jonathan Chait at New York Magazine: Romney’s Budget Fairy Tale.

In the real world, the following things are true: The budget deficit was projected to top $1 trillion even before President Obama took office, and that was when forecasters were still radically underestimating the depth of the 2008 crash. Obama did propose temporary deficit-increasing measures, an economic approach endorsed in its general contours, if not its particulars, by Romney’s economists. These measures contributed a relatively small proportion to the deficit, and their effect is short-lived. Obama instead focused on longer-term measures to reduce the deficit, including comprehensive health-care reform projected to reduce deficits by a trillion dollars in its second decade. Obama put forward a budget plan that would stabilize the debt as a percentage of the economy. Obama has hoped to achieve deeper long-term deficit reduction by striking bipartisan deals with Congress, and he has tried to achieve this goal by openly endorsing a bipartisan deficit plan in the Senate and privately agreeing to a more conservative plan with John Boehner, both of which were killed by Republican opposition to any higher revenue.

But Romney doesn’t seem to live in the real world, and Chait suggests that Romney either doesn’t understand how deficits work or doesn’t care if what he says makes any sense at all.

In Romney’s telling, the terms debt and spending are essentially interchangeable. When presented with Obama’s position — that the solution to the debt ought to include both higher taxes and lower spending — he rejects it out of hand. Naturally, Romney has admitted before that his budget plan “can’t be scored.” It’s an expression of conservative moral beliefs about the role of government. While loosely couched in budgetary terms, Romney is expressing an analysis that resides outside of, and completely at odds with, mainstream macroeconomic forecasting and scoring assumptions.

At the Plum Line, Greg Sargent discusses How Mitt Romney gets away with his lying.

If you scan through all the media attention Romney’s speech received, you are hard-pressed to find any news accounts that tell readers the following rather relevant points:

1) Nonpartisan experts believe Romney’s plans would increase the deficit far more than Obama’s would.

2) George W. Bush’s policies arguably are more responsible for increasing the deficit than Obama’s are.

Oh, sure, many of the news accounts contain the Obama campaign’s response to Romney’s speech; the Obama campaign put out a widely-reprinted statement arguing that Romney’s plans would increase the deficit and that he’d return to policies that created it in the first place.

But this shouldn’t be a matter of partisan opinion. On the first point, independent experts think an actual set of facts exists that can be used to determine what the impact of Romney’s policies on the deficit would be. And according to those experts, based on what we know now, Romney’s policies would explode the deficit far more than Obama’s would.

Obviously, the problem is the obsequious corporate media. But the Romney campaign makes it impossible for even the few remaining serious reporters to question his policies by keeping the candidate completely insulated from the press except for occasional appearances on Fox News and lightweight network morning shows like Good Morning America. Yesterday, Politico reprinted tweets from several reporters who were “physically” blocked from talking to Romney on a rope line.

Speaking of Republican ignorance of basic economics, House Republicans are gearing up for another pitched battle on increasing the debt ceiling. Speaker John Boehner met with President Obama at the White House today and they “clash[ed] over” increasing the debt limit, according to The Hill.

The president convened the meeting of the bipartisan congressional leadership to discuss his “to-do list” for Congress, but an aide to the Speaker said the bulk of the meeting was spent on other issues, including a pile-up of expiring tax provisions and the next increase in the federal debt limit.

Boehner asked Obama if he was proposing that Congress increase the debt limit without corresponding spending cuts, according to a readout of the meeting from the Speaker’s office. The president replied, “Yes.” At that point, Boehner told Obama, “As long as I’m around here, I’m not going to allow a debt-ceiling increase without doing something serious about the debt.”

Shortly after the meeting, White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters that the president warned the leadership that he would not allow a repeat of last August’s debt-ceiling “debacle,” which led to a downgrade in the U.S. credit rating.

Sigh……

In a related story, there’s this piece at Wonkblog about the Pete Peterson summit and how Democrats talked long-windedly about cutting “entitlements,” and Republican refused to talk about tax increases. Read it and weep. I’m not even going to quote from it, because it’s too damn depressing.

So far Jamie Dimon seems to have survived the $2 billion loss recently suffered by J.P. Morgan.

The CEO of JPMorgan Chase survived a shareholder push Tuesday to strip him of the title of chairman of the board, five days after he disclosed a $2 billion trading loss by the bank.

CEO Jamie Dimon also won a shareholder endorsement of his pay package from last year, which totaled $23 million, according to an Associated Press analysis of regulatory filings.

Dimon, unusually subdued, told shareholders at the JPMorgan annual meeting that the company’s mistakes were “self-inflicted.” Speaking with reporters later, he added: “The buck always stops with me.”

Yeah, right. The buck will stop with the taxpayers if Dimon’s bank ultimately crashes and burns. Bill Moyers asked economist Simon Johnson about that.

Moyers: I was just looking at an interview I did with you in February of 2009, soon after the collapse of 2008 and you said, and I’m quoting, “The signs that I see… the body language, the words, the op-eds, the testimony, the way these bankers are treated by certain congressional committees, it makes me feel very worried. I have a feeling in my stomach that is what I had in other countries, much poorer countries, countries that were headed into really difficult economic situations. When there’s a small group of people who got you into a disaster and who are still powerful, you know you need to come in and break that power and you can’t. You’re stuck.” How do you feel about that insight now?

Johnson: I’m still nervous, and I think that the losses that JPMorgan reported — that CEO Jamie Dimon reported — and the way in which they’re presented, the fact that they’re surprised by it and the fact that they didn’t know they were taking these kinds of risks, the fact that they lost so much money in a relatively benign moment compared to what we’ve seen in the past and what we’re likely to see in the future — all of this suggests that we are absolutely on the path towards another financial crisis of the same order of magnitude as the last one.

A number of shareholders have sued Dimon over the losses, according to Bloomberg (via the SF Chroncle). And of course lots of people are gloating over Dimon’s getting temporarily knocked off his pedestal. Jena McGregor writes in the WaPo:

It’s being called Dimonfreude.

There are barely disguised smirks emanating from the canyons of Wall Street and the business press over the fact that Jamie Dimon has had to admit a mistake — and a whale of one, for that matter.

For years, the JPMorgan CEO (and America’s least-hated banker, as he was known) has worn a halo over those pinstripes. Dimon has been called President Obama’s “favorite banker”. Institutional Investor magazine has called him the country’s best CEO for two years running. And his actions during the financial crisis have been painted in patriotic terms: Press reports said he “answered the call” from then-FDIC chairman Sheila Bair to buy Washington Mutual, one of two banks he scooped up during the financial meltdown, and he has cited a patriotic duty to a country in crisis as why he took in $25 billion in government aid.

Yet now, Dimon is in the hot seat as JPMorgan confronts a $2 billion trading loss and the early stages of a criminal probe by the Justice Department.

Finally, some sad news: Estranged Wife of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Is Found Dead at Home in Westchester

Mary R. Kennedy, the estranged wife of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., was found dead on Wednesday at the family’s home in Bedford, N.Y. She was 52.

Ms. Kennedy’s death was confirmed in a statement from her family, who did not comment on the circumstances. The Bedford Police Department said only that it had investigated a “possible unattended death” in an outbuilding at the home.

Her lawyer, Kerry A. Lawrence, would not say whether foul play was suspected. Kieran O’Leary, a spokesman for Westchester County, said an autopsy was scheduled for Thursday morning.

Born Mary Richardson, Ms. Kennedy joined one of America’s foremost political families in 1994, in a marriage ceremony aboard a boat on the Hudson River, near Stony Point, N.Y. At the time, she was an architectural designer at Parish-Hadley Associates in New York.

Those are my suggested reads for today. What are you reading and blogging about?


22 Comments on “Thursday Reads: Romney’s Lies, Debt Ceiling Showdown, and Dimonfreude”

  1. Pat Johnson says:

    I absolutely agree with the assertion that Romney considers the rest of us as “stupid”.

    My belief that anyone dumb enough to support Romney has be to stupid and their vote is primarily against Obama rather than for this robotic insult of a candidate for POTUS.

    The sad fact is that the pundits are arguing that most people have yet to begin to pay attention to the election. And though that may be true in some respects it is a pretty dire admission. When will they take a look at what is being proposed? The day before? The day of?

    For crying out loud, the Ryan Budget is a guarantee to pass if both houses of congress are placed in GOP control. The disatrous effects will be felt far and wide if enacted. This is a piece of Draconian policy that will find its way into each and every home in the nation when implemented and the consequences will be disastrous.

    I give up.

    • bostonboomer says:

      It’s very discouraging, isn’t it? If the majority of voters aren’t even paying attention when we’re close to another financial crisis and in danger of the Ryan budget actually passing and making the situation even worse, then maybe they are stupid. I sure hope Americans wake up soon.

      • ANonOMouse says:

        I agree BB. The Ryan Budget would be a total disaster to our economy and to American psyche. I have to constantly remind myself that most people are not poltical junkies like many of us here. Most people will make up their minds closer to the election, during or after the debates and during the ground games. I think the Democratic Party has traditionally had a better grass roots/ground game than the GOP in the swing states for both POTUS and for Congressional Candidates. Time will tell, but the Dems chances at holding the Senate and winning back the House is not as impossibl, as it seemed to be just 1 short year ago.

      • dakinikat says:

        Most of our budget woes are still due to the bad economy that the financial crisis caused. It’s hard to believe Romney ever sat in an economics class with all the crap he’s throwing around.

      • ANonOMouse says:

        “Most of our budget woes are still due to the bad economy that the financial crisis caused. It’s hard to believe Romney ever sat in an economics class with all the crap he’s throwing around.”

        He probably paid a look-alike to sit in the economics class for him. 🙂

      • ANonOMouse says:

        That’s probably why Ann had to chip into their blue-chips, to pay the Mitt look-alike to sit in class and take the tests. Mitt was probably somewhere else on campus picking on some small gay man.

  2. bostonboomer says:

    Apparently Mary Kennedy committed suicide by hanging herself in the barn. Being a Kennedy wife is no picnic. It’s in the NY Post.

  3. bostonboomer says:

    Trayvon Martin’s autopsy showed that he was shot from “intermediate range.” That doesn’t seem to match Zimmerman’s claim that Martin was on top of him when he fired the shot.

    As for the supposed abrasions on Martin’s knuckles, not so much. He had “one other fresh injury – a small abrasion, no more than a quarter-inch in size – on his left ring finger below the knuckle.”

    Then how could he have done all that damage to Zimmerman?

    • ANonOMouse says:

      I’m anxious to read the report of the people who treated Zimmerman at the scene to see what their assessment of his physical injuries were. He refused to be taken to the hospital, so apparently he didn’t think he was hurt to badly. If I’d just been in a physical altercation with someone that led me to KILL them, I would have wanted the people at the ER to verify the injuries I sustained at their hands. Instead Zimmerman decided to wait until the next day and go to his personal physician? That raises the possibility that some of those wounds could have been self-inflicted. It’s not an impossibility.

      • bostonboomer says:

        I don’t know how long it takes for black eyes to show up after your nose is broken.

        I just don’t see how Travon could have broken George’s nose and slammed his head on the sidewalk and only have one tiny cut below his knuckle–no bruises from the “fight,” nothing.

        It turns out that intermediate range is still fairly close range, but the muzzle of the gun is not right against the person being shot. They’ll be able to estimate the distance from the powder burns and other damage to Trayvon’s skin.

      • ANonOMouse says:

        Black eyes from a broken nose happen quickly, within hours. The autopsy will also show the trajectory of the bullet which will matter a lot to Zimmerman’s recollection of the shooting. If Trayvon was on top, the bullet would have traveled along a path that should verify Zimmerman’s story. If not, uh-oh!!!!

        The prosecution also has video tapes from the clubhouse, which is where Zimmerman claims to have been parked when he first spotted Trayvon. One of Zimmerman’s statements to the police claimed that Trayvon came up to his car. I think that evidence may have been crucial to the decision to prosecute. I’ve read that Zimmerman told several conflicting stories prior to his release on the night of the killing.

      • bostonboomer says:

        But if Trayvon really was on top, wouldn’t he have bled all over George? He had no blood on him anywhere.

    • dakinikat says:

      Which Zimmerman Story? He’s had so many of them now that it’s hard to keep track.

  4. NW Luna says:

    no shared foundation of reality

    We need a sanctuary to escape to.

  5. RalphB says:

    John Lewis on gay civil rights.