Donald Trump’s Deep Thoughts on Abortion, Religion
Posted: April 19, 2011 Filed under: 2012 presidential campaign, abortion rights, Surreality, U.S. Politics, We are so F'd | Tags: 2012 presidential election, ABC Good Morning America, abortion, Donald Trump, evangelical Christians, fundamentalism, George Stephanopoulos, idiocy, NBC News, religion, Savannah Guthrie 39 CommentsI’ve never been very interested in Donald Trump. To be honest, until today I had never actually heard him speak two consecutive sentences. Trump has given several interviews lately, and based on watching them and/or reading the transcripts, I must say the man strikes me as a complete idiot. Next to him, the “P” woman looks slightly above average in intelligence.
Trump addressed his “pro-life” stance with Savannah Guthrie of NBC News and George Stephanopoulos of ABC News. Here are his words of wisdom on the subject.
Vaugn Ververs at MSNBC’s First Read:
Donald Trump appeared stumped when asked [by Savannah Guthrie] about the legal principle that served as the cornerstone for the Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion….
Guthrie: “Is there a right to privacy in the Constitution?”
Trump: “I guess there is, I guess there is. And why, just out of curiosity, why do you ask that question?”
When pressed to explain how his position on the right to privacy “squares” with his anti-abortion position, Trump responded: “Well, that’s a pretty strange way of getting to pro-life. I mean, it’s a very unique way of asking about pro-life. What does that have to do with privacy? How are you equating pro-life with privacy? ”
Guthrie asked, “well, you know about the Roe v. Wade decision.” Trump responded, “yes, right, sure. Look, I am pro-life. I’ve said it. I’m very strong there.”
Trump left the interview still not seeing a connection between a woman’s right to choose whether or not to have an abortion and the right to privacy. What a loon!
On ABC’s Good Morning America, George Stephanopolous asked Trump directly about the fairly recent change in his abortion stance.
Stephanopoulos: At that time, you were also pro-choice. Now you say you’re against abortion. When did you change your mind on that?
Trump: I would say, you know, a while ago. Quite a while ago.
Stephanopoulos: Why?
Trump: Because a number of cases, but in one particular case, I had a friend and I have a friend. And he would– did not want a child and his wife didn’t want a child. And they were going to abort. And they didn’t do it for very complicated reasons. And now they have the child. And it’s the apple of his eye. And he said, “Thank God.” He changed also, by the way. “Thank God, I didn’t do it.” And I’ve seen that, and I’ve seen other things. And I am pro-life.
That makes a lot of sense. Some rich golfing buddy of Trump’s didn’t want a baby but then changed his mind after the baby was born. Therefore all women must be forced to bear children they don’t want.
Maybe a religious conversion contributed to the change in Trump’s views since 1999 when he told Tim Russert he was pro-choice? He assured David Brody of the Christian Broadcasting Network that he (Trump) is church-going Christian.
David Brody: You talk a lot about business obviously, but talk to me a little bit about how you see God. How you see God in everything from what happened to your brother (he died of alcoholism at the age of 42) to how your life is today.
Donald Trump: I believe in God. I am Christian. I think The Bible is certainly, it is THE book. It is the thing. I was raised and I gave you a picture just now and perhaps you’ll use that picture I found it from a long time ago. First Presbyterian Church in Jamaica queens is where I went to church. I’m a protestant, I’m a Presbyterian. And you know I’ve had a good relationship with the church over the years. I think religion is a wonderful thing. I think my religion is a wonderful religion.
[….]
Brody: Do you actively go to church?
Trump: Well, I go as much as I can. Always on Christmas. Always on Easter. Always when there’s a major occasion. And during the Sundays. I’m a Sunday church person. I’ll go when I can.
He’ll go on Christmas and Easter and when he can the rest of the year? I’m not sure Trump understands the evangelicals any better than he understands the U.S. Constitution. Maybe Trump is actually secretly auditioning for a new reality show? He can’t possibly be serious about running for President of the U.S. Can he?
Friday Reads: Fresh Hells brought forth by Republicans
Posted: April 8, 2011 Filed under: abortion rights, black women's reproductive health, morning reads, Violence against women, We are so F'd, Women's Rights 16 Comments
I wish I could really say good morning, but I have to say that I’m getting more discouraged all the time. It feels like the Republicans are destined to bring on The Handmaid’s Tale future. There should be no complaining around here about burkhas because it seems we’re being enslaved by the same narrow minds here in this country with the same degree of ignorance and intolerance. We’ve turned from a nation of scientists, inventors, and pioneers into something completely different. We better start fighting the ignorance coming from pews and Republican Congressional districts now or everything we have come to know and love about this country will be gone. One hundred fifty years after the beginning of the Civil War, we now have another war seeking to create slaves rather than free them.
First, a selection of how a few robed men with their own religious jihad have become jurists in favor of dismantling some one of the most central tenets of The Constititution: The Establishment Clause. Every citizen in this day and age should be able to show the damage done by religionists in this country. It will be a difficult task, however.
In a decision earlier this week in Arizona Christian School Tuition Organization v. Winn, the five conservative Justices on the Supreme Court (Roberts, Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas and Alito) carved a large hole out of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. Although the issue in the case was subtle, the consequences are not.
The First Amendment prohibits government to make any law “respecting an establishment of religion.” A central concern of the Establishment Clause, in the words of James Madison, was to forbid government “to force a citizen to contribute” even “three pence of his property for the support of” religion. As the Supreme Court recognized more than forty years ago, as a general proposition the Establishment Clause prohibits government from using its “taxing and spending power… to favor one religion over another or to support religion in general.” Thus, the Establishment Clause forbids government to fund churches to enable them to spread their religious beliefs or to award special tax credits to individuals to reimburse them for their contributions to religious organizations.
There is a complication, however. Even though such government programs violate the Establishment Clause, it is not clear whether anyone can legally challenge them. To bring a lawsuit contesting a law’s constitutionality, a plaintiff must have “standing” to sue. To have standing, a plaintiff must have suffered a distinct “injury in fact” as a result of the government action he wants to challenge. Standing is necessary because we want the parties to have a meaningful stake in the outcome of litigation. Otherwise, they might not adequately represent their position, which could result in a waste of judicial resources or, even worse, erroneous decisions.
Why should I have to subsidize some one’s superstitions? I certainly will get no benefit from it nor will society.
Idaho lawmakers are seeking to force raped women to bring pregnancies to term because it is the will of “The Almighty”. (H/T to BB) That some one’s imaginary friend should hold every one hostage is anathema to me. We have to ask when the witch burning will begin, when will we return to biblical stoning, and under what conditions will slavery be okay? This also completely bans induced labor under strict term. There are no ‘abortions’ in the third trimester. That’s one of those word games religionists play to confuse the easily confused. So, what happens if you have a brain dead baby or one that’s dead and the remains go septic? Do you just sit around and wait for their imaginary friend to do something? How are all these radical measures coming to pass? Where are the reasonable people in this country?
The Idaho legislature on Tuesday gave final approval to a measure that would outlaw abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy and subject abortion providers to criminal prosecution and civil lawsuits.
The Senate-backed bill cleared the House in a 54-14 vote and now heads to Governor Butch Otter, who is expected to sign it.
This person actually believes a rapist is the hand of god? Representative Shannon McMillan needs to go back and figure out that a fertilized egg is in no way a child and that forcing women to hangers and back alleys isn’t going to save lives.
“Is not the child of that rape or incest also a victim?” asked Rep. Shannon McMillan, R-Silverton. “It didn’t ask to be here. It was here under violent circumstances perhaps, but that was through no fault of its own.”[…]
The Idaho bill’s House sponsor, state Rep. Brent Crane, R-Nampa, told legislators that the “hand of the Almighty” was at work. “His ways are higher than our ways,” Crane said. “He has the ability to take difficult, tragic, horrific circumstances and then turn them into wonderful examples.”
It looks like “clerical error” has returned the vote advantage to Right Wing Radical extremist David Prosser to the Supreme Court in Wisconsin. He’s best known for calling a colleague a bitch. The assault on women’s rights, worker’s rights, and ordinary people will continue there.
Nickolaus says the reason for the big change is that data transmitted from the City of Brookfield was imported but that she failed to save those results to the database. Brookfield cast 14,315 votes on April 5 — 10,859 of those votes went to Prosser and 3,456 went to JoAnne Kloppenburg.
Congressional Republicans are trying to blame the budget stalemate and the ensuing bad PR of not paying soldiers in combat on Democrats. The truth comes out that they are quibbling over funding Planned Parenthood and not the numbers. It’s really quite shameful. Maybe the Democrats and Obama are figuring out that these people do not negotiate, they only take hostages. The Democrats offered to pass a troop funding standalone bill 3 times but were turned down.
Today, House Republicans pushed through their stopgap measure in a 247-181 vote. The bill, H.R. 1363, quickly came under fire for demanding a series of non-budget related policy riders, including an anti-abortion policy restriction banning D.C. from using its own local funds for abortions and anti-environmental restrictions to limit the EPA from regulating green house gas emissions, on top of an extra $12 billion in cuts. “With an eye to protecting themselves politically” from blame, the GOP quickly redefined H.R. 1363 today as the “troop funding bill.”
Slate’s Dave Weigel noted that five minutes after the White House declared H.R. 1363 unacceptable, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) slammed President Obama for threatening to veto a bill to “ensure that our troops are paid.” Minutes later, Rep. Tom Latham (R-IA) ripped Democrats for “girding to oppose a ‘troop-funding bill.’” Republican lawmakers quickly picked up the rallying cry. Reps. Mike Pence (R-IN) and Harold Rodgers (R-KY) called it “astonishing” and “inexplicable” that Obama would, as GOP shutdown architect Newt Gingrich put it, use the troops as “bargaining chips for budget negotiations.”
There’s only one problem with this talking point — it’s the opposite of true. Today, the House Democrats tried three times to pass a measure that would ensure the troops received pay. The Republicans overwhelmingly opposed every single “troop-funding” opportunity …
Nancy Pelosi is now saying there is a war one women and predicts a ‘strong Democrat Response to the recent events. One has to wonder where it was when they sold out on tax cuts that would bring on this situation. One also has to wonder about where these folks were when they were eviscerating women’s right to have private insurance with abortion riders a year ago too.
“I think you’ll see a strong Democratic ‘no’ on that,” Pelosi said of the funding measure, “and I would hope that the president would veto that bill.”
Rep. Chris Van Hollen (Md.), senior Democrat on the House Budget panel, called the Pentagon funding “a cynical ploy to use our troops to try to impose the Republican agenda through the budget process.”
Pelosi agreed, and predicted the attempt to lure Democratic votes won’t work.
“For them to hide behind our troops while they build a future unworthy of the sacrifice of our troops … is a contradiction in terms,” she said. “I believe we’ll have a solid vote against that.”
These are truly trying times. We have people who do not embrace modernity, science, or reason making policy right now. They’ve also had time to stack a lot of courts with justices who appear to care more about their religion than The Constitution. We’re assaulted on all fronts by radicals who seek to redefine this country in theocratic terms and are willing to ruin it to bring about an end to everything that protects the pubic interest and public assets. The costs will be huge if this stuff succeeds.
Anyway, I can’t read any more of the headlines without wanting to ask Canada for sanctuary. If you’ve got anything better on your reading or blogging list, please share it. I just would like to get my assets and my daughters out of here before they’re declared breeders and kidnapped by some infertile white couple in the name of their angry sky god.
Uppity Woman suggests that we join the ACLU and women in the state of Florida and “incorporate” each and every uterus in the country so the Republicans will want to deregulate them and free them from taxes. Here’s the link to Incorporate My Uterus! Sigh.
So many religionists, so few lions.
Oh, and if you want to get stirred up, go watch CSPAN and the Stand Up for Women’s Health Rally:
Stand Up for Women’s Health Rally Planned Parenthood, NARAL Pro-Choice America, and more than 20
other organizations will hold a Stand Up for Women’s Health rally at the U.S. Capitol in opposition to proposals in Congress.
On Thursday, Republicans passed a one-week spending bill — one almost surely destined to fail in the Senate — that featured one of the key provisions they are seeking.
The measure would reinstate a policy, scotched a few years ago by Democrats, that prevented the District of Columbia from using locally generated taxes to provide financial help to poor women for abortions. (The use of federal funds for abortion is already prohibited.) Because this law was on the books for years — passed by Democrats as a rider to unrelated bills — it has perhaps the best chance of surviving in any spending compromise.
Republicans also seek to prohibit payments for abortions overseas — a measure known as the “Mexico City” policy that was overturned by an executive order from Mr. Obama. Another rider seeks to end the United States’ contribution to the United Nations Population Fund, which focuses on reproductive health.
Finally, rather than cut all federal funds for Planned Parenthood, House Republicans would like to take the money given to it and other family planning organizations and give it to state health departments to spread at their discretion.
Late Night PLUB outrage: Women will Lie to get free abortions
Posted: March 30, 2011 Filed under: abortion rights 28 CommentsIt seems most Republican men and some Republican women don’t think of women as adults who can make moral and wise decisions. Indiana State Rep. Eric Turner (R), believes that women will falsify rapes and incest crimes in order to get free abortions. He’s calling it the rape loophole.
Yesterday morning, the Indiana House considered an anti-abortion bill that “would put some of the tightest abortion restrictions in the nation into Indiana law.” Introduced by state Rep. Eric Turner (R), HB 1210 would make most abortions illegal after 20 weeks. Current law restricts abortions after the fetus is viable, generally around 24 weeks.
In an attempt to soften the blow this bill would land on Hoosier women, state Rep. Gail Riecken (D) introduced an amendment to exempt “women who became pregnant due to rape or incest, or women for whom pregnancy threatens their life or could cause serious and irreversible physical harm” from being forced to carry to term. Fearing this bill would “push women to the back alleys” for illegal abortions, Riecken pleaded with lawmakers to allow women to make the choice in these cases.
Turner then stepped to the podium and insisted that Riecken’s amendment would create a “giant loophole” for women. That loophole? Women “could simply say they’ve been raped”
House Dems beat back most of the outrageous attempts to limit a woman’s right to her body.
HB 1210, authored by Rep. Eric Turner, R-Cicero, would make most abortions illegal after 20 weeks, while current law restricts most abortions after the fetus is considered viable, generally around 24 weeks.
Among its other provisions, the bill also requires abortion providers to tell patients that abortion carries risks, including the possibility of breast cancer.
Rep. Peggy Welch, D-Bloomington, tried to remove that language, saying studies have shown no link between abortion and breast cancer.
“I support the bill,” said Welch, a nurse and one of only five House Democrats among the 51 co-sponsors of the bill. “But I do not support the (breast cancer) language because it is not evidence-based.”
Still, the House voted 41-52 against her amendment. The only physician in the chamber, Rep. Tim Brown, R-Crawfordsville, voted for Welch’s proposal.
The House also voted 42-54 against an amendment by Rep. Gail Riecken, D-Riecken, which would have exempted from the bill women who became pregnant due to rape or incest, or women for whom a pregnancy threatens their life or could cause serious and irreversible physical harm.
Turner urged his colleagues to oppose that amendment, saying it created “a giant loophole.”
I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it any more
Posted: March 28, 2011 Filed under: abortion rights, John Birch Society in Charge, Reproductive Rights, Women's Rights | Tags: Montana misogyny, R-Kalispell, Rep. Keith Regier 20 Comments
Have you noticed that the rhetoric from a lot of Republican men on women is just over-the-top misogynistic these days? Just what I needed for bedtime reading(via tweet from facebook/FDL friend Suzanne TwoTon) or why I’m glad I don’t live in Montana if this what the men are like:
Some comments a Kalispell legislator made last week about the value of pregnant cattle in relation to a bill about pregnant women have caused a stir.
When speaking before the Senate Judiciary Committee about HB 167 (which would criminalize the death of an unborn child), Rep. Keith Regier, R-Kalispell, noted the value of a cow increases if the cow is pregnant.
That comment didn’t go over well with two women from Planned Parenthood of Montana and the state chapter of the National Abortion Rights Action League.
Lindsay Love and Julianna Crowley complained about Regier’s comments.
“Putting women in the same category as animals is inherently disrespectful,” the women said in a letter. “The comparison to livestock is even more degrading because farm animals are property and are managed as commodities for farms and corporations.”
The women said that Regier’s “antics are just one more example of the misogyny and anti-women rhetoric that floods the hallways of the Montana Legislature this session.”
Maybe it’s just the roid rage from what they’ve been pushing into my IV drip, but I doubt it. I wonder if they shoot lame men the way they shoot lame horses too.








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