Tuesday Reads: Hacker Twitter Storm and Post-Prom Nightmares
Posted: May 20, 2014 Filed under: Crime, morning reads, Rape Culture, Real Life Horror, Violence against women | Tags: after-prom horrors, Calhoun High School Georgia, cypherpunks, Edward Snowden, Ellijay Georgia Calhoun High Prom Rape, gang rape, Gilmer County GA, Glenn Greenwald, hackers, Jacob Applebaum, John Cook, Laura Poitras, NSA leaks, redactions, The Intercept, twitter fight, twitter storm 104 Comments
Good Morning!!
In the comments on yesterday’s post, I mentioned that there has been quite a bit of tension building up between Glenn Greenwald and some of the more extreme members of the (for lack of a better name) cypherpunks crowd–Wikileaks, Cryptome.com, and the hacker community (including Jacob Applebaum, who is closely involved both with Wikileaks and Laura Poitras, Greenwald’s partner in crime. I guess I should have stayed up later last night, because this morning I woke up to the aftermath of a major storm in the Twitterverse, where most of these types of people choose to communicate with each other.
Glenn Greenwald
The fight stemmed from an article posted at The Intercept yesterday, in which the authors chose to redact the name of one of the five countries targeted by NSA data collection. However, it really goes back much further than that.
There has been a long running disagreement between Greenwald and the other groups I mentioned on how much of Edward Snowden’s trove of stolen NSA data to publish. The hacker/Wikileaks crowd thinks Greenwald should simply release everything and let the chips fall where they may, and Greenwald claims he is carefully vetting the material with Snowden’s help in order not to reveal anything that would harm anyone.
Greenwald has actually revealed only a small portion of the material so far, presumably holding back information that he wanted to include in his book. But now the book has been released, and it apparently contains much information that has already been published. For those who have been obsessively following the NSA leaks story, there doesn’t seem to be a need to buy the book. Why is Greenwald being so stingy?
Here’s some background from Michael Kelley at Business Insider: WikiLeaks Threatens To Reveal Information That Glenn Greenwald Says Could Lead To ‘Deaths’.
Jacob Applebaum
America’s National Security Agency (NSA) can “vacuum up and store the actual content of every conversation” in the Bahamas and an unnamed country, the new publication The Intercept reported Monday, based on documents leaked by Edward Snowden.
Intercept Editor Glenn Greenwald — who wrote about documents leaked by Snowden when he was a columnist for The Guardian — said the publication didn’t reveal the country because it was “very convinced” that doing so would lead to “deaths.”
After a heated discussion between WikiLeaks, Greenwald, Intercept Editor-In-Chief John Cook, and American WikiLeaks hacker-turned-Der Spiegal contributor Jacob Appelbaum, WikiLeaks tweeted that it will reveal the name of the second country being spied on by the NSA.
As Kelley points out, the implications is that Wikileaks knows the name of the country either by unmasking the redaction with software or because Wikileaks has access to the Snowden files.
The most plausible way for WikiLeaks to have access to a Snowden cache is if Appelbaum, who led the reporting on several Der Spiegel articles based on NSA documents (which may or may not be from Snowden), shared information with his friend and WikiLeaks Editor-In-Chief Julian Assange. Applebaum tweeted that The Intercept’s redaction was “a mistake.”
Appelbaum, a close friend of Laura Poitras, the other journalist whom Snowden gave a large set of documents, also gave a presentation detailing a classified document listing technology available to the NSA’s hacking unit, known as TAO. It is not known how he acquired those documents.
Laura Poitras
So which is it? The careless ways in which the Snowden documents have been passed around between The Guardian and The New York Times and other news organizations; with Greenwald’s husband David Miranda carrying them through London to Berlin and back; as well as the fact that Snowden is in Russia, suggest that the entire cache will eventually be released, and presumably all hell will break loose. It’s only a matter of time.
Charles Johnson posted the entire Wikileaks-Greenwald argument at Little Green Footballs: Slap Fight of the Day: Wikileaks vs Pernicious G
Today on Twitter this happened: Julian Assange, who most people believe is the one behind the @Wikileaks account, threw a huge tantrum because Glenn Greenwald redacted the name of a country from his latest disingenuous article. Greenwald says he was convinced publishing the country’s name would lead to deaths. Assange doesn’t give a shit about that, of course.
There are some inadvertently hilarious moments here; Wikileaks’s Jacob Appelbaum says redacting the country “makes Wikileaks look extreme.” I almost fell out on that one. And then there’s the tweet in which Assange basically calls everyone in Greenwald’s crew “a bunch of racists.” And it all ends with Assange issuing a super-villain threat to release the country’s name “in 72 hours.”
Scroll through the collection below to see what it looks like when extreme libertarians have a purity war.
Head over to Green Footballs if you want the details. Read more exchanges between Wikileaks, Jacob Applebaum, and John Cook, editor of The Intercept at Chirpstory. Read more at Buzzfeed, where Miriam Berger and Miriam Elder provide a timeline of the tweets along with their interpretation: Julian Assange Is Angry At Glenn Greenwald And He’s Not Going To Take It Anymore.
Finally, Bob Cesca’s take on the whole affair: The Wikileaks vs Greenwald Twitter Fight: Julian Assange Threatens To Reveal Deadly NSA Info.
It all began Monday morning when The Intercept posted a new Snowden revelation with cutesy headline: “Data Pirates of the Caribbean: The NSA Is Recording Every Cell Phone Call in the Bahamas.” Get it? Pirates! The article exhaustively describes an operation called MYSTIC and another called SOMALGET in which NSA gathers audio and metadata of cellphone calls in the Bahamas in order to spy on human traffickers and drug cartels. The Bahamas is notorious for both.
Naturally, the article featured all of the deceptive Greenwaldian bait-and-switch we’ve come to expect from his Snowden articles. For example, in paragraph seven, Greenwald and his co-authors Ryan Devereaux and Laura Poitras noted that Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA), Bill Gates and Oprah Winfrey routinely vacation in the Bahamas:
By targeting the Bahamas’ entire mobile network, the NSA is intentionally collecting and retaining intelligence on millions of people who have not been accused of any crime or terrorist activity. Nearly five million Americans visit the country each year, and many prominent U.S. citizens keep homes there, including Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Bill Gates, and Oprah Winfrey.
NSA is spying on Oprah! Stop the presses! But no, if you read all the way down to the 54th paragraph (!!) Greenwald tosses in a token mention of NSA’s rules about preventing data collection against U.S. Persons, whether or not they happen to be inside the U.S. There are very strict “minimization” procedures to eliminate the data that might’ve been inadvertently collected. Why? Because it’s illegal to spy on Americans without an individual warrant. And, by the way, Greenwald & Company noted that the SOMALGET program is, yes, legal.
It sure seems like there are enough hints in the story for anyone to guess the redacted country. Pirates? SOMALGET? Plus the fact the Assange accused Greenwald of “racism.” Read much more interpretation and more tweets at The Daily Banter.
I’ll be keeping a close eye on this story from now on and I’ll pass on any new information.
In other news . . .
On Sunday JJ wrote about an alleged gang rape that reportedly took place after the Calhoun High School senior prom in North Georgia on May 10. The reason I’m writing about it is that Sky Dancing has been getting a huge number of clicks from people looking for more information on this story. It seems people want to know what is happening, but the local papers have not published anything on the crime or the investigation since Sunday. Doesn’t that seem odd and troubling? Is a cover-up in the works. As JJ pointed out it brings back memories of Steubenville, Ohio. After the gang rape there, local officials tried to sweep it under the rug, but a blogger and an “Anonymous” group kept the story alive. Maybe someone with inside information from Calhoun needs to get something like that started? As in Steubenville, there are hints that coddled football players may be involved.
Jacqueline Gomez
Meanwhile, in another prom-related tragedy, a girl was found dead after a prom at MacArthur High School in Houston. According to her mother, the mother of Jacqueline Gomez’ boyfriend was supposed to bring her home that night, but instead the boy’s mother allowed the couple to stay in a hotel room against the Gomez’ mother’s wishes. To me the whole thing sounds really suspicious. From KHOU.com, Mother: Daughter was not supposed to stay at hotel after MacArthur HS prom.
There are new startling details from the mother of a teenagerfound dead on prom night. Her mother feels like she was mislead by her daughter’s prom date and his mother….
Gomez was off to her senior prom at the Hyatt North Houston Hotel. Her mother was too distraught to show her face on camera, but said she expected to see her daughter back at home later that night….
Barron said Gomez’s date’s mother picked the couple up from her home. She also picked them up from the hotel later that night. That’s when she last spoke to her daughter on the phone.
“I just spoke to them after prom, a couple words, told me she was going to get something to eat,” said Barron.
That’s when the boy’s mother got on the phone and asked if Gomez could spend the night at their house.
“I said no, bring her back home,” said Barron. “I gave them a couple hours, and I never heard back.”
The next call she got was from a homicide detective with the Houston Police Department. She said detectives told her the room was booked by the boyfriend’s mother.
What happened? Who gave Jacqueline the drugs and did the boy’s mother know about it? More information from The Houston Chronicle: Texts Hint Girl May Have Overdosed After Prom.
A series of text messages offered new details into the death of Jacqueline Gomez, the 17-year-old Aldine ISD senior found dead Saturday in a Houston motel room the morning after her prom. The texts, sent from an account identified as Gomez’s date, also indicate investigators believe the girl probably overdosed….
Yet nobody can be certain how the MacArthur High School student died until autopsy results are complete – which could take several weeks, the Harris County medical examiner said. And that has the date and Gomez’s family and friends anxiously waiting for the mystery to be solved.
Meanwhile, her friends and family refute any suggestion that Gomez was ever a “party girl,” saying she spent most of her time working at a Kroger grocery and preparing to graduate in June.
Was Jacqueline given a date-rape drug? We may never find out, because those drugs wash out of the system very quickly. Check this out:
“He was posting pictures of himself crying on Instagram. So I a sent him a text that day to ask what had happened to my girl,” said Justice Gonzalez, a close friend of Gomez who saw the couple leave the prom together Friday night to go to that room. Authorities report Gomez was found dead in her bed about 9:20 the next morning.
“They said she overdosed,” part of the text reads, likely referring to law enforcement officials.
He went on.
“I woke up. I tried waking her but she wouldn’t,” the date texted back, adding four frowning faces. “I was screaming and crying telling her to wake up. But she didn’t. She didn’t,” He ended his text with two frowning faces with tears.
He stated she had appeared “perfectly fine and happy” when they left the “Miami Night” prom. She also seemed “happy” when they both went to sleep, he said.
He had told authorities that they had some alcohol, but said in a text to the friend that Gomez had also taken the painkiller hydrocodone.
Why the f&ck didn’t didn’t he take her home, and WTF was his mother thinking?! Furthermore, why can’t something be done to prevent these kinds of after-prom horrors?
Now I’m really mad, and I’m running out of space and time. I’ll post links to other news in the comment thread, and I hope you’ll do the same.
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BBC:
China denounces US cyber-theft charges
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27477601
China Daily
China suspends cyber working group activities with US to protest cyber theft indictment
http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/us/2014-05/20/content_17519286.htm
That greenwald stuff is fascinating. It’s like watching children fight on a playground.
It is, isn’t it? They’re all so childish. I can only imagine how enraged Assange must be that Greenwald is getting all the money and awards–and book and movie deals.
They all seem to be hyper focused on one issue and mostly concerned about their egos.
It’s like a circus.
I’m fascinated at the ignorance of those like Applebaum etc who seem to think that whatever they don’t like is automatically illegal and unconstitutional regardless of actual legal precedent. They have absolutely no understanding of how the Constitution actually works.
I haven’t read through the entire post yet but I’m trying to figure out how Greenwald’s hoarding of the material and deciding, with his infinite wisdom, what we can and cannot know is somehow better than the NSA hoarding data in the interest of national security. I guess it’s all better in the hands of one man who can enrich himself with it?
This whole thing has been a huge clusterfk and not worth the trouble at all. I wouldn’t trust any of the individuals involved in the GreenSnow/Wikileaks movement for a second.
Good question. The trouble is that these childish people have control of some dangerous info.
Exacerbating tensions between your opponents is an old trick, and I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that something like that is going on here. The amount of “hidden” Snowden material has been exaggerated, although it is true that Greenwald has promised the most shocking revelations for last.
The reference to “book and movie deals” (below) is, I’m sorry to say, beneath your usual standards. It’s a cheap, common complaint, one which may be lobbed at anyone who writes anything for any reason: “Oh, he wrote THAT for money.” Idiots have said that about me, and I’ve even heard one idiot say that about you, DK.
“For those who have been obsessively following the NSA leaks story, there doesn’t seem to be a need to buy the book.” Doesn’t this come parlously close to a review of a book you haven’t yet read? The documents which inform the book are online, and I’ve published many (actually most) of them on my own blog. But text supplies context. I’ve barely started the book, but the parts I’ve read have proven very useful — especially if you want to learn how the Greenwald-Snowden interaction began.
If Greenwald had not put those documents (some of which have not been seen before) on the internet, people would accuse him of hiding them for pecuniary reasons. But he did put them on the web — and now you’ve said that there’s no reason to buy the book. Catch 22!
I don’t know if that one redaction under discussion here will or will not save lives. I do know that letting the spooks romp and stomp without popular governance has “caused the end of life for several million people, and condemned many millions more to a life of agony and despair.” Those are the words of William Blum, whose “Killing Hope” is an indispensable guide to this area of study. Lord knows that the congressional intel committees have done a laughably poor job of oversight over the decades.
A lot of people strongly believe that we are headed for tyranny unless the covert forces are held in check. Some of the people who think that way are former spooks themselves. I’ve met a few.
My latest post offers one excellent example of why the Snowden revelations have been so helpful. Yesterday, the Daily Beast published a piece in which a senior intelligence official (unnamed) is quoted as saying that the NSA has no way of tracking “bad guys” flying in and out of this country. If that’s true, one wonders why we’ve read so many stories about innocent people placed on “no fly” lists.
The Snowden cache includes a Powerpoint document in which NSA/GCHQ brags about their abilities to track “bad guys” in flight:
“We can confirm that targets selectors are on board specific flights in near real time, enabling surveillance or arrest teams to be put in place in advance…Specific aircraft can be tracked approximately every 2 minutes whilst in flight.”
In short, that senior intelligence official lied his ass off. Without Snowden, we would not have confirmation of this lie. (The Senate Intelligence Committee sure as hell isn’t going to tell us these things.) And now we have no choice but to speculate as to the lair’s motive.
I didn’t write this post. I am more concerned about what Google and Facebook know than the NSA. Both greenwald and snowden are libertarians so that just about ends any chance of me taking either seriously.
Libertarians? I don’t think that’s really true of Greenwald. I know the accusations. They’re weak.
Snowden…? Well, like it or not, libertarian insiders are the only insiders likely to go blabby.
As you know, I despise libertarianism as much as you do, but let’s be honest: There is, within that movement, a strong streak of anti-spookery, or at least anti-foreign-interventionism. The better libertarians are genuinely strong on privacy issues. I can admire them for that stance, even if I can’t stand them when they start talking about economics.
I fear that the days are long gone when you can expect a Phil Agee or a Lou Wolf to do this sort of thing while embracing an ideological stance associated with the left. In today’s society, it’s libertarian whistleblowers or no whistleblowers. I’ll take what I can get.
Greenwald was and is a big fan of crazy Uncle Liberty. Google what he said about him the last time he ran for prez.
Also google Greenwald’s screeds against gun control and immigration.
Yes, we would know about the domestic spying. It was reported in the NYT in 2009 and in James Risen’s book. The Washington Post did extensive reporting on the national security state. Anyone who was paying attention knew it was happening.
What we’ve gotten from Snowden is names of programs and power point presentations of capabilities that we don’t know were ever used. We’ve gotten reports of foreign spying–like the one yesterday that destroyed a program that was being used to find drug runners and human traffickers.
Greenwald’s reporting has been filled with errors and exaggerations. I will be happy if all this leads to a reduction in NSA domestic spying; but I think that’s unlikely, because of the emphasis from Greenwald on the U.S. spying on other countries. And let’s say Congress actually gets NSA domestic spying under control? What about the CIA and FBI, which IMO are even worse?
What about Google? What about all the companies that gather much more data on me than my phone calls w/date, time, and person called? Sorry, but Glenn Greenwald is a fucking asshole, and if he’s not out for money, why did he partner with Pierre Omidyar in a “news” organization that went more than a month without publishing anything?
If Snowden had stuck around and fought for what he supposedly believed in, I probably would have felt differently. But he doesn’t believe in anything. He’s living in Russia where domestic surveillance is far worse than in the U.S., where the government kills journalists, where the government is now using Snowden’s revelations as an excuse to shut down their own news organizations and control access on the internet.
The hackers who are working with Snowden and Greenwald care about one thing: “privacy” meaning universal encryption. And First Look plans to sell encryption software and devices–and you think they’re not into the money? What about the fact that yesterday The Intercept donated $350,000 to the Freedom of the Press Foundation, which was formed by Greenwald and Poitras? That’s money laundering in my book. Will The Intercept take a tax deduction for giving money to themselves?
I could go on, but I know we’ll never agree. I respect your opinion and admire your writing, but I just disagree with you choice of messengers.
As for how Snowden and Greenwald got together, I’ve read the book excerpt from the Guardian and the hundreds of other articles in which he (and Poitras) have told the story. Guess what? They told multiple versions, all of which are likely half-truths or lies.
More evidence has come out in the past few days that at least Jacob Applebaum and Laura Poitras met with Snowden at a cybercon in Hawaii at around the time he switched from Dell to Booz-Allen (conveniently, the two companies are housed in the same building).
I believe that Applebaum and Poitras (at least) coached Snowden on what data to take. This was a well-planned operation. Also note the closeness relationships between Assange, Applebaum, and Putin/Russia. They also steered Snowden to Greenwald.
And now what does Snowden have to show for all this? He has been used and tossed aside.
From The New Yorker:
Why do people persist in believing things that just aren’t true?
I think most people hold onto false beliefs because they are somehow comforting to them. At least in a lot of cases but I don’t understand the anti-vaccine people.
I don’t either. I really don’t get the ones who think the world is 6,000 years old and that dinosaurs and humans co-existed.
Some people just have to have a shared belief system and I think the creationist myth is part of that. If you dug deep enough, I’ll bet most of them don’t really believe it all. The society they live in seems to buy it so …
I’m not clicking on that link. Will anyone else dare to do it?
Not a chance.
NYMag: David Brooks: Bowles-Simpson Should Rule Forever
Jon Chait read it for us.
A LATE NOTE FROM MORAL HAZARD
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/david-brooks-big-debate-052014
🙂
Head bangs away.
Dana Millbank:
Indiana’s Gov. Pence taking the Obamacare money and running with it
Armando (aka Big Tent Democrat) writes about “Glenn Greenwald’s blind spot on sexism and racism.” (at DailyKos)
Armando still has a soft spot for Hillary, apparently.
Wow. That’s exactly my problem with Greenwald.
Pretty much, although I think his narcissism makes him unreliable on anything outside his own welfare.
I really have got to hand it to you BB – your blogs, your attempts and perspectives on the Snowden and Greenwald news/blogs has been superior, your comments spot on. Two thumbs up!
Thanks Fannie. I really appreciate that.
Hmmm. I would not have guessed that about BTD from hanging out at TalkLeft back in 2008.
I figured it was Somalia, but wouldn’t anyone with half a brain know that NSA is monitoring terrorists in both countries??
I was thinking Somalia too BB…
And this was way more than a kick ass post…this was a fucking awesome kick ass post!
I actually was thinking it might be mexico.
Mexico was on the list unredacted.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/05/19/data-pirates-caribbean-nsa-recording-every-cell-phone-call-bahamas/
Other possibilities for redacted country.
Damn, I don’t care who the country is in their report. The report revealed a legal program against human traffickers and drug gangs. It should not have been published at all!
I know. And not for the first time. These people make me sick.
I detest the morally superior assholes!
JJ,
Have you heard anything about the rape investigation?
Just found this tidbit, nothing local: Police release report on post-prom attack in Gilmer County | Times Free Press
Here’s the house where it happened (from when it was for sale in 2012). Apologies if you already posted this…
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/20-Edgewater-Dr-Ellijay-GA-30540/2120833934_zpid/
I was looking up the owners on the Gilmer tax assessors site
it is owned now by a corp
Quitclaimed by a joe stewart, but previously owned by stewart and two other people:
Sale Date Deed Book / Page Plat Page Price Reason Grantor Grantee
01-25-2012 1717 405 9 24 $ 0 Quit Claim Deed STEWART, JOE B SMF LLC
10-30-2003 1001 438 9 24 $ 190,000 Fair Market Value – Improved WEST BUILDERS INC STEWART, JOE B/STEWART, FAULKNER IV/FAUL
It could be the house was empty and they had a key or got in somehow.
And this, New report shines light on alleged prom party rape – : Police/Fire
There was also this announcement from the CHS on the local paper: CHS graduation a ticketed event this year – : Local
That is really disgusting considering the victim cannot attend her own graduation, but her alleged rapists can.
It’s disgusting all right. I’ll bet they are all on the football team.
It was Michelle Taylor, Supt of Schools, that stated to the Kate Harrison (Times Free Press) that the crime did not take place at a school event, that it occurred in another county, and that it has nothing to do with the school.
The school board needs to explain why they have counselors for students, if it has nothing to do with the school. Why are the parents protesting then? They are making it like it has everything to do with a bunch of kids having a party with lots of alcohol. That is why the investigation is going to take so long. Where is the bunch of boys gang raping a high school student?
I agree with you Fannie. The school has to take some responsibility.
The other kid involved is from Northwest Whitfield High School in Dalton and supposedly has a baseball scholarship to college somewhere. I don’t know if he will be walking with his class…can’t find any info on him.
Great detective work, JJ!!
Actually, just doing a bit more, it may be Southeast Whitfield High School, as I can only find one student with a baseball scholarship. But then it is all speculation.
Ah, but there is another student at Dalton High School who got a baseball scholarship as well…I still think if the alleged suspect from Whitfield county is also named in the list of suspects from the Gilmer County Sheriff’s office, then he should not walk at Graduation either.
Well according to this report it is the Southeast High student: http://www.daltondailycitizen.com/local/x611380151/Charges-pending-against-students-in-post-prom-rape
Oh, I see. It says the house was rented from the real estate co. By whom?
I think it is a bullshit way around saying it was a parent of one of the kids.
JJ, I’d bet that was the case. Some parent or parents should be in deep shit.
This is something positive:
Alleged rape suspects not attending CHS graduation – : Local
This is a tragic story that I’m sure will become even more tragic as the truth unwinds
The School District should be in deep shit too!
Also, the article “Alleged rape suspects not attending……..”……………That article says it took place on May 10 (Prom night)……….however the Incident Report says it took place May 11……
Hmmm…
If you do some digging into the various county records you can find out who owns the cabin, and see…it is more involved than you are led to believe:
I’ve gotten access to Gilmer and Gordon County records here: Georgia Tax Assessors – Your One Stop Portal to Assessment, Parcel, Tax & GIS Data for Georgia Counties!
Cabin owned by SMF, LLC
which is reg per Ga SOS in Tammy Stewart name.
Tammy Stewart is aka Tammy Moss Stewart (The “M” in SMF?)
according to the info from assessor site there is a QCD: from Stewart and Faulkner VI (which I believe is this man: http://www.whitepages.com/name/Charles-Faulkner-Iv/Calhoun-GA/banuv0w) into the SMF LLC.
also
Joseph Brian Stewart aka Joe Stewart is owner of Gordon Building Supply
There was some stuff a few years back about Joe Stewart being involved in a investment scam. You can see more about that if you google it.
Per assessors records: George Milton Stewart aka Milton Stewart is also owner of Gordon Building Supply per the tax assessors.
They seem to own a huge amount of property from the tax assessors records. All with the same PO box in Calhoun.
JJ thanks for help in accelerating the news as to this Prom Gang Rape in Georgia. I was saddened to hear about Jacqueline Gomez losing her life on Prom night in Houston. It is so unreal, and Prom is becoming a “Rape Zone”. It getting worst every year. Some states are really slow, really bad at investigations, there is a lack of funding, and a lack of resources (including human) from the various agencies, not to mention the stacks of documents. Like you said, the victim doesn’t attend graduation services, but the rapist does. You would think that the entire school would postpone the date until further evidence is presented, and get down to the truth.
I read the incident report, by officer T. Jay Teague. I don’t know why it’s call Incident Report. Shouldn’t it be specific, as in Rape Violence Report. I read Georgia’s Satute 16-6-1, Title 16, Crimes and Offense, Chapter 6, Sexual Offenses. There are a few thing I am no so sure about in the Incident report………Rape is listed as strong arm. I thought of strong arm robbery. Why do they report rape as strong arm? It must pertain to body against body. The incident report has a box that is checked NO for Drug Related? Gang Related NO? As you can see I am having some problems with the codes, it’s like my dental insurance, where the dentist listed a code, and I get a notice that my treatment is not severe, and for cosmetic purposes, and therefore I am not covered. Then I have to get back on the phone to straighten it out with everybody. You know what I mean?
The state of Georgia by law says that a male cannot be raped? Is that true? And what does it say about rape due to alcohol and drugs? The GOP, and legislatures are changing the definition of rape, and saying that if you didn’t cry, then it wasn’t rape. Down in the deep south you don’t know what the hell they are doing when it comes to women and rape.
Prom is NOT SAFE.
I love you Fannie, and I was so fucking glad you called the CHS the other day…and that you are so active with your time.
I second that emotion!!!
Fannie, I believe ‘strong arm’ means physical force was used in the commission of the rape. 05/11 was listed as the date because it happened between 2 and 4 am.
Thank you JJ and Ralph: The term strong arm reminds me of a Edward G. Robinson movie, they need to reword that, my opinion. In JJ’s 3:08 post the news reported “an event reported to have taken place on the evening of May 10, 2014 at a private residence”……….. but like you state Ralph, it was reported as being May 11, 2014: Here is the Incident Report:
Click to access edgewater_report.pdf
I think “strong-arm” must mean forced with violence.
Thanks for this – great post!
Thanks! Not too many commenters today, but that seems to happen with the Greenwald/Snowdent stuff. I write about it to have a record.
It’s a really wonderful post and I’m really glad you keep up with the GreenSnow stuff so I don’t have to read it all myself. Great job as always!
Thanks, Ralph. I just can’t tear myself away from it.
You do a great job covering Greenwald. It’s become so convoluted glad you’re here to chronicle it in a way to help us understand.
Dinesh D’Souza pleaded guilty, Here’s a list of his greatest troll hits:
http://raggedthots.blogspot.com/2010/09/end-of-end-of-racism.html
From JMB: BREAKING: Pennsylvania’s Ban On Gay Marriages Has Been OVERTURNED
UPDATE: There Is NO Stay On Ruling
Wow, is that 13 or 14 in a row now? Good going Judges! 😉
I think it’s 14. And the right Wing-nuts are in full on batshit crazy mode after this ruling.
Ah, right wing tears of impotent rage. Enough for everyone I’m sure.
The horse is out of the barn, now. The entire Northeast has legalized Gay Marriage.
From HuffPost: “In all, 18 states give legal status to gay marriage. If Jones’ decision stands, Pennsylvania would become the 19th and legalize gay marriage throughout the Northeast.”
And here we are Ralph, living in bassackwards States that are still bitching about Jim Crow being gone.
Our statute was struck down earlier but got stayed by the wingnuts of the 5th Circuit. The Supreme Court will have to sort them all out anyway. Makes me nervous but I hope to prevail.
At least one good thing is happening.
It’s too late to turn back now!
Bwahahahahaha
JoeMyGod @JoeMyGod 17m
Catholic Church Has Pennsylvania Sadz: “Today’s decision by one federal judge speaks to the confusion and misu… http://bit.ly/1lMnMso
A weathervane speaks …
tpm: Sen. Bob Casey Heaps Praise On Gay Marriage Ruling In Pennsylvania
ROTFL
The Catholic Church in Pennsylvania Speaks
From JMG:
“Today’s decision by one federal judge speaks to the confusion and misunderstanding among many today about the fundamental building block of society: the family. Every child has a basic right to a mother and a father united in marriage as a family. Today’s decision does not change that. By God’s design, every child has a mother and a father. The redefinition of marriage enshrines in law a denial of the rights of children to a mother and a father united in marriage. Catholic opposition to same-sex marriage is not a statement about the worth of human beings who experience same-sex attraction, but a statement about the nature of marriage itself.” – The Pennsylvania Catholic Conference, via press release.
Whoa…..because the catholic church can’t pass up an opportunity to pretend that marriage is about having children. Nor can they pass up the opportunity to pretend that L/G’s are incapable of forming “real” families. I don’t think anyone told my recently wed 69 year old neighbor before she took the leap with her 72 year old boyfriend that marriage was about procreation.
“Catholic opposition to same-sex marriage is not a statement about the worth of human beings who experience same-sex attraction, but a statement about the Catholics’ confusion and misunderstanding about the nature of love between two adults.”
That’s what they really mean.
Excellent correction!
In the case of the girl who died after prom in Houston, the date’s mother would appear to be in deep shit. That may be true, regardless of the cause of death, if the information about her renting that room etc proves out.
I hope she is. Especially since the mother told her she didn’t want her daughter out overnight.
Child endangerment in this case could land her in prison for a very long time.
I hope so. How sick.
Hilarious post contains this memorable line which just cracked me up and I still can’t stop laughing. 🙂
BB, fantastic post. Thanks for the synopsis on the GG crowd — it seems to be all an exercise in puffery and pissing distance with them. No sense of proportion.