Friday Reads: Hacks that Hate Women

which-female-stereotype-are-you-jun-13-2012-9-600x400Good Morning!

I’m going to try to try not to let the rant out quite yet.  But, wow,  these two guys really piss me off and I cannot figure for the life of me why ANYONE takes them seriously.  They belong in museums with the other prehistoric cave dwellers.   I hate to ruin your day by quoting Erick Erickson and Ross Douthat in one post.  But, sometimes you just have take them out and on.  I have never had a single nice word to say about either of them.  You’ll notice that nothing will stop that trend today.  So,  let’s start with the fat boy at FOX instead of the fat boy at NYT. I can’t even imagine what kind of hell realm their wives must experience daily.

Appearing on a Fox Business panel Wednesday evening, Fox contributor Erick Erickson suggested it is “anti-science” to reject the biological claim that men should be in the “dominant” role in the nuclear family.

This particular panel segment of Lou Dobbs Tonight took on a recent Pew study claiming that mothers are now the primary source of income in 40 percent of American households. Dobbs characterized the findings as “troubling” while panelist Juan Williams asserted that it indicates “something going terribly wrong in American society.”

Erickson added to that by suggesting female breadwinners are antithetical to biology:

“I’m so used to liberals telling conservatives that they’re anti-science. But liberals who defend this and say it is not a bad thing are very anti-science. When you look at biology — when you look at the natural world — the roles of a male and a female in society and in other animals, the male typically is the dominant role. The female, it’s not antithesis, or it’s not competing, it’s a complementary role.”

He continued on to lament that “We as people in a smart society have lost the ability to have complementary relationships in nuclear families, and it is tearing us apart.”

He concluded: “Having mom as primary bread winner is bad for kids and bad for marriage.”

woman_stereotype_max600Have you ever read anything so far removed from history, biology, or life as that? Amanda Marcotte dissects his tiny little brain that seems incapable of any thought that isn’t straight out of 1950s black and white family life that was shown in home ec classes to keep women thinking one man and one kitchen was the be-all and end-all of her life. The reality today is that 4 out of 10 households have female breadwinners.   Penguins must be spawn of  the devil in Erickson’s world.

Erickson must have this nifty scientific “fact” by studying the animals in the well-known academic text, The Berenstain Bears, which clearly shows Papa Bear going out and earning the money while Mama Bear stays at home and cooks the food for the cubs. Of course, in the actual natural world, bears don’t make money—plus there’s a lot of diversity in how animals raise their young. (In case you’re wondering, outside of the two weeks of maternity leave mothers take to nurse their babies, foxes embrace a fairly egalitarian approach to child rearing where both parents go out and get food for their young.) One thing, however, is certain: Other primates besides humans mostly shun the male-dominated monogamy that Erickson prefers, with most species living in large bands with lots of kinky partner swapping.

Needless to say, the utter destruction of social stability that these men predict from the growth of female independence is not borne out by the facts. The divorce rate is actually declining. The abortion rate is roughly what it was pre-Roe and is mostly in decline, in part because of all those women opting into the sole breadwinner lifestyle. The only man on this panel who got close to the facts in midst of the full-blown panic was Williams, who hinted at how this is more about men’s declining fortunes than women’s growing ones. It’s true that these new breadwinner stats are not all good news, but the real problem is that men earning less means less money overall for the average American home. What’s really hurting Americans isn’t female equality, but growing income inequality between the rich and everyone else. Pitting men against women is simply a distraction from the real economic issues facing us all.

Douthat’s pudgy little fingers typed out some earlier diatribe in the NYT.  Douthat belongs in the religious propaganda pages of The Catholic Voice. I’ve said this timehousecleaning and time again.  But, his insistence that “conservativism” is aligned with his religious dogma really gets old. It shows there is something seriously wrong with the people that run the NYT that they continue to give him space for this kind of drivel. Yes, folks.  The decline of Western civilization is because women just won’t get back in the home and do their thing and stop complaining about spitting out babies.  Barry Goldwater–and probably even Ronald Reagan–would take issue with every word here.

1) The core economic challenge facing the American experiment is not income inequality per se, but rather stratification and stagnation — weak mobility from the bottom of the income ladder and wage stagnation for the middle class. These challenges are bound up in a growing social crisis — a retreat from marriage, a weakening of religious and communal ties, a decline in workforce participation — that cannot be solved in Washington D.C. But economic and social policy can make a difference nonetheless, making family life more affordable, upward mobility more likely, and employment easier to find.

2) The existing welfare-state institutions we’ve inherited from the New Deal and the Great Society, however, often make these tasks harder rather than easier: Their exploding costs crowd out every other form of spending, require middle class tax increases and threaten to drag on economic growth; their tangled web of subsidies and credits and tax breaks often benefit the already-affluent and create perverse incentives for the poor, and the distortions created by the way they pay for health care, in particular, contribute mightily to the rising cost of health insurance and thus the stagnation of middle class incomes. So we don’t face a choice between streamlining the welfare state and making it more supportive of work and family; we should be doing both at once.

You just can read the implied disdain of thing not being like they are on Leave it to Beaver.  So Ericson, after probably being reminded of penguins and all the huge number of animals where the male is never even around except for breeding, insisted he was right. He says it’s the truth on his own stinker of a blog Red State, and that it’s not only a conspiracy by women but by GLBT who want to get married and raise children.

 Feminists and politicians on both sides of the aisle view these statements as insulting to single moms and antithetical to their support for gay marriage. What should be insulting to single moms is for society to tell them they can do it all and, in fact, will subsidize their doing it all. I know a number of wonderful, nurturing single mothers. They do as best they can. Most of them have wonderful children. But not one of them prefers to be a single mother.

His small little world has produced its truth.  He ignores that fact that most violence, child abuse and child sexual assault occurs in the sole family situations he worshipfully desires.  To put it in terms of no one wants to be a single mother when they are one is enough to make me want to hit him and puke at the same time.   He needs to be reminded that the traditional way of raising children is really extended families, children working instead of going to school or playing,  both parents work with children left to older children or the elderly.  I have never in my life read so much that just is so microscopically focused on a small period of time in human history that it is just freaking laughable.  However, it is hard to laugh because both of these asses wind up with audiences and they really don’t do deserve it.

What’s on your reading and blogging list today?

82 Comments on “Friday Reads: Hacks that Hate Women”

  1. Uppity Woman says:

    Every time a woman goes to work instead of begging some guy to support her, a kitten dies.

  2. bostonboomer says:

    Here’s a scientific fact for Erickson. Male bears often eat their cubs, so the mom has to keep them away from him. Same with lions and other big cats.

    In the insect world, males are drones who basically mate and then die, having fulfilled their only purpose in life.

    • ecocatwoman says:

      Erickson’s statements clearly prove he knows nothing about science, biology, zoology, etc. I was fuming last night when I heard about this on Chris Hayes’ show. Humans are mammals so if one looks just at mammals, anyone would see that only a small percentage of species form permanent pair bonds. Then there are lions and elephants who have a matriarchal social structure.

    • NW Luna says:

      Yep. Worker bees are all female.

  3. bostonboomer says:


    Those illustrations of smiling women doing their housework are priceless. I actually grew up with that kind of propaganda all around me. I don’t know how I survived with my brain somewhat intact.

    • ecocatwoman says:

      Every time I see those type of illustrations I think back to the old, old Ms. magazines and the ads they featured in the early issues. Although I also grew up with these images, they didn’t bother me as much as the tv ads – especially the Wisk commercials. RING AROUND THE COLLAR! I remember being outraged, as a teenager, when the husband looked at his wife scoldingly. I’ve NEVER bought Wisk detergent because of those misogynistic ads. That occurred prior to the second wave of feminism – it just seemed so wrong to me.

    • dakinikat says:

      One of these days I will have to ask my daughters what they think of them … you know the Doctor and the Stock Broker! LOL!

  4. Kat, you forgot to mention the other asshole over at Fox who said that all these women making the money will cause the abortion rate to rise. Eric Bolling Abortion Claim: ‘The Five’ Co-Host Says Rate Linked To Growth Of Female Breadwinners

  5. bostonboomer says:

    I didn’t know there were Roman ruins in Libya. These photos are amazing! Please take a look.

    • roofingbird says:

      Yep, those are great!

    • ecocatwoman says:

      Fascinating. Certainly looks like there has been quite a bit of shoreline erosion. All of the trees in several pictures seemed out of context so close to the sea.

      I guess I didn’t find it surprising, logically for me at least, since Libya is next door to Egypt and the Roman Empire certainly extended to Egypt (Caesar/Antony + Cleopatra). Of course, I think most of us have heard mostly of Roman ruins in Italy & even the British aqueducts. I don’t remember learning much of anything about the African continent & its history way back when I was in school. And what I did learn was on my own & about the amazing wildlife. Thanks for the link.

  6. janicen says:

    I remember reading a while back that male seahorses are the ones that get pregnant. Not biological enough?

    On one of the morning shows, must have been CBS because I don’t watch the others, they had a “groundbreaking” discussion about work/life balance. They decided to seem fair-minded and ask a man about how he juggles his career with his family life and does he feel guilty about depriving one or the other. Jeff Glor answered honestly, “I don’t really think about it. I just do the best I can…”

    It really hit the nail on the head about the entire subject but of course the questioners missed the obvious point. It’s only women who are asked to think about it and made to feel guilty. Women are always accused of not giving enough either to career or family, men just do the best they can and that’s always good enough.

    • NW Luna says:

      So true. They should ask the exact same questions of women as of men.

    • ecocatwoman says:

      Janicen, here are a couple of links that discuss seahorse reproduction: & Their reproductive method isn’t typical, but I personally wouldn’t say the males get pregnant. However, one of the links above does use that terminology.

      And here’s a post about Darwin’s frog. The male broods the fertilized eggs in his vocal pouch until the tadpoles have become frogs:

      And one other thing for bb – male lions don’t kill & eat their cubs (neither do tom cats). Since females live in prides of mothers, sisters, daughters, aunts with one or two adult male lions, sometimes when the male gets older & weaker he is challenged by a new younger male (or 2). If a new male joins the pride, he will kill any cubs of the previous male in order to bring on estrus in the females so his genes can be passed on. In the “natural” world, it’s all about sex for the males – in most cases. Survival of the species requires a large gene pool.

      • bostonboomer says:

        You’re right. I was wrong about lions. Bears do it though.

        • ecocatwoman says:

          Since bears don’t pair bond, I’m sure it is possible that the sperm donor could kill his own cubs. I really don’t know that much about bears compared to cats of all sizes.

          • bostonboomer says:

            I know male back bears sometimes eat their cubs. Females do at times too. But mother bears have their own territory separate from the sperm donor. Father may not know the cubs are his.

            Apparently polar bears do it too.


          • ecocatwoman says:

            Bears definitely kill and eat cubs, that I knew. I just don’t know that the cubs are theirs. It’s certainly possible, I think primarily because male & female bears don’t pair bond. And bears will eat anything, whether before or after hibernation. Also, especially for polar bears, with less & less ice, there are fewer chances for them to catch/kill their primary prey, seals. Given the chance, they will kill & eat humans as well. It has to be especially difficult for female polar bears to defend their cubs from male bears – there aren’t any trees to send the cubs to climb up & away from a male bear. Moms of many mammal species have a tough time protecting their offspring.

  7. roofingbird says:

    Ratings and negative reinforcement win again.

    Along with the commercial sponsors, these are the folks that need to held accountable:

    Key Executives for FOX News Network, L.L.C.

    Mr. Roger Ailes
    Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
    Age: 72
    Mr. Ray Hennessey
    Managing Editor and Director of Fox Business Channel Website
    Mr. Mark Kranz
    Chief Financial Officer
    Mr. Kevin Magee
    Executive Vice President
    Mr. Bill Shine
    Executive Vice President of Programming
    Compensation as of Fiscal Year 2012.

  8. ANonOMouse says:

    Great Post Dak……I’m no fan of Megyn Kelly at Fox, but she told Erickson and Dobbs basically to kiss her ass

    These anti-woman, anti-gay old buggers at FOX and within the Con-Media need to go Frack themselves.

    • ANonOMouse says:

      The women hating men of FOX NEWS get Cialis resistant Erectile-dysfunction just thinking about powerful, self-sufficient, confident women.

    • ecocatwoman says:

      Damn, I didn’t know Megan had that in her.

    • Beata says:

      Go Megyn! Well done.

    • Greta had something to say about it last night too.

    • dakinikat says:

      whoa … she ripped them a new one … and the lou dobbs “Oh, dominant one`” what a fugging as$$

    • Fannie says:

      These are some cruel and careless fuckers………..I’d like to take those stats and shove it right down in the belly of fat fucker…………..and the old fucker too. They love to dehumanize women, and these monsters are not just on Fox, lately they seem to be spitting shit everywhere. I keep hoping it will not continue, but it will only worsen………………and it’s not right. We are paying a high price for their bullshit talk……..they are stuck in one hell of a rut. Time will not heel the wounds sky dancers…………remember we are sisters in solidarity and will continue in the struggle (as Melissa Harris Perry says). We won’t forget.

  9. HT says:

    Gosh gee whiz, my single parenthood (after two arseholes fleeced me for 100K) means what? I’m not worthy and responsible for the death of society as we know it? Well is these arseholes are society as we know it, it deserves to die. JMHO of course, but did these idiots actually pay for their education? Money thrown down the toilet, and any woman who lives with them is either stupefied by obsessive love, or really likes that paycheck.

    • dakinikat says:

      yup, and if I had it to do all over again, I would have kids and I would not have a husband … I would have a sperm donor … I am not surrendering my assets, me, my kids, and my life to legally sanctioned ownership via some stupid social institution that should be defunct by now

  10. prolixous says:

    Okay, ya got me started here — you have two blubber buddies who live in a bubble of wanting the way-back machine to magically turn back the calendar and have Ike in the White House (where the occupant matches the walls) and the appropriately womaned gingerbread houses are properly ensconced behind picket fences — only now, there would be the machine gun turrets at the corners of their yards courtesy of their secondary obsession.

    Here’s the question for these bumbling blubbering brombos: Why is it a sign of the apocalypse if it is a middle class woman is working outside the home, but working outside the home is demanded of a poor woman as a precursor to receiving any type of assistance for her children?

    The answer to that is illustrative of the depth of their thought processes before spouting a script unworthy of even “Leave it to Beaver,” their intellectual depth is that of a dime store mirror, but their hypocrisy shines with the brightness of the Hubble Telescope.

    I’ll calm down now. Thanks Dak for posting this — I can now proceed to the weekend rant satisfied..

  11. bostonboomer says:

    I just found out that a 10,000 gallon gas in my town not far from me. It’s leaking gas near the river.

    The scene has been elevated to a Tier 2 haz-mat incident, which brings in more apparatus and a regional response team. The Department of Envrionmental Protection has also been requested to the scene.

    That doesn’t sound good.

    • No it doesn’t. Be careful and keep attention to the news in case you have to evacuate.

      My friend in OKC says things are going to be desperate there again later on…they are issuing PDS which stands for Particularly Dangerously Situation, she says this is rarely used but is being used today…

    • ecocatwoman says:

      Gasoline or natural gas? Either would be a fire hazard, obviously. If it’s close, any chance you can go to your brother’s, just for safety’s sake? All of us are going to be worrying about you until we hear an all clear from you. Who needs climate change when there are disasters in abundance?

      • bostonboomer says:

        It says gasoline. I looked up Tier-2, and it’s not an evacuation level. It’s fairly close to me, but not so I could smell it or anything. I’d say its about a 10-min drive from me. The roads are all closed. They are now saying the gas has stopped leaking. Photo of crash scene:

        • bostonboomer says:

          Wait, it says some nearby homes and a bank have been evacuated. Now I see it’s a little bit further from me than I thought. They have all kinds of equipment and firefighters from several towns on the scene. The driver was thrown from the truck and taken to Mass Gen. condition unknown.

      • bostonboomer says:

        I wouldn’t have to go near the scene to get out of town. I’m basically on the other side of town and I’m near the highway.

        • bostonboomer says:

          It looks like quite a bit of gasoline went into the river.

          UPDATED, 6:24 p.m.: EkOngKar Singh Khalsa, director of the Mystic River Watershed Association, said fuel entered the Mystic River immediately after the crash.

          A member of the Mystic River Watershed Association was kayaking near the bridge when the accident occurred, he said. She told Khalsa that fuel immediately started to discharge from the storm drain under the bridge “like water from a hydrant.”

          Khalsa said he reached out to the Department of Environmental Protection, but they were already headed to the scene.

          Khalsa said this incident is a “big deal for local residents and everyone who has worked so hard” to improve water quality in the river.

          “We feel very badly for the driver’s injuries and no one intended this to happen, but this is really a big deal for the river. Unfortunately, the fuel oil has gone into the river,” said Khalsa.

    • ANonOMouse says:

      Joe whined that poor Erickson is (65) years old, as if that excuses the old turd. I’m older than Erickson and I remember the old days of wine & roses and there was neither wine nor roses for most of us. Erickson and Dobbs and all the other peckerwoods over at FOX and hiding behind the desks at MSNBC need to surrender their caveman fantasies and learn to accept the meager progress that women have made, and then they can all STFU!!!

  12. madamab says:

    Awesome rants everyone! Hey, at least the woman-hating trolls are coming out and admitting it now. The more honest they are, the easier it is to point and laugh at their teeny tiny weenies.

    • HT says:

      Bingo! Let them come out from their mantle of “respectability” and show their true colours. Mysognists, fearful of their position, rabble rousers, scared minor intelligent con men.