Lazy Caturday Open Thread

Good Morning!!

Well, this is interesting. Jeffrey Epstein is dead. The New York Times: Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide at Manhattan Jail.

Jeffrey Epstein, the financier indicted on sex trafficking charges last month, committed suicide at a Manhattan jail, officials said on Saturday.

Mr. Epstein hanged himself and his body was found this morning at Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan at roughly 7:30….

Last month, a week after being denied bail, Mr. Epstein was found unconscious in his cell at the jail in Manhattan with marks on his neck, and prison officials were investigating the incident as a possible suicide attempt.

It was not immediately clear on Saturday whether the authorities had put in additional safeguards to watch him after the incident last month.

Martin Weinberg, Mr. Epstein’s defense lawyer, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Why wasn’t he on suicide watch?

Conspiracy stories are already making  the rounds.

This one was probably inevitable. Naturally, Trump’s loyal stenographer Maggie Haberman is spreading the word.

Charles Pierce: Nobody Will Ever Believe the Official Story on This.

How in the hell do they let this happen? The guy was incarcerated in the Manhattan Correctional Center. He already had made one try. He had to be on suicide watch. And the suicide happens the day after a massive document dump in which a woman who said she was one of Epstein’s victims implicates an entire brigade of celebrity “clients,” up to an including some European royalty? There almost can’t be a dog more reluctant to hunt than this one.

A whole bunch of Somebodies need to get fired behind this. Beyond it, of course, a thousand conspiracy theories will now bloom across all the Intertoobz. The other people involved have to be nervous. Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein’s alleged accomplice who has yet to be charged, has to be looking over her shoulder. Is she looking over her shoulder to see if the FBI is back there, or to see if something darker is closing in? This country is losing what’s left of its mind.

Julie K. Brown at The Miami Herald: Accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein kills himself in New York jail.

The 66-year-old’s death came one day after the Miami Herald and other news organizationspublished a trove of documents describing in detail how he operated the equivalent of a sexual pyramid scheme, luring underage girls to his Palm Beach home, then coercing them into sex.

The Herald sued to have the records released.

The suicide — just weeks after what was apparently a previous attempt — short-circuits what would have been a spectacular sex-trafficking trial that likely would have drawn in an array of prominent witnesses. Epstein had a constellation of important friends in business, political and society circles, including former President Bill Clinton and President Donald Trump.


Meanwhile, Trump is being played like a Stradivarius by his true love Kim Jong Un.

This moron doesn’t seem to understand that Kim is giving the U.S. an ultimatum. Trump seems perfectly happy to let Kim keep developing his nuclear weapons program because he (Trump) has fantasies of putting his name on hotels and apartment complexes on North Korean beaches. He really is that stupid. This alone should be grounds for impeachment.

USA Today: Donald Trump says he’s looking forward to another meeting with Kim Jong Un following missile tests.

President Donald Trump said Saturday he is looking forward to another meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un to discuss the elusive goal of denuclearization.

In a tweet about the recent letter he received from Kim, Trump said the North Korean leader “stated, very nicely, that he would like to meet and start negotiations as soon as the joint U.S./South Korea joint exercise are over.”

Kim protested the joint military exercises – as has Trump himself –  and offered “a small apology” for North Korea’s recent missile testing, Trump said. He said that Kim claimed that “this testing would stop when the exercises end” between the U.S. and South Korea.

Trump’s comments came just hours after North Korea conducted what looked to be even more missile tests, the latest in a series of aggressive moves by Kim’s government.

“I look forward to seeing Kim Jong Un in the not too distant future!” Trump said.

I’m going post this now, because my internet is still disconnecting periodically. I will add more links in the comment thread when I can. What stories have you been following?


7 Comments on “Lazy Caturday Open Thread”

  1. RonStill4Hills says:

    Two points. 1) Triple check the body, Epstein could be on his way to Tahiti. 2) Keep investigating, Epstein was not alone in his massive molestation conspiracy.

  2. bostonboomer says:

    I’m back on the internet for now.

    • dakinikat says:

      well, this is enough to make me wonder

    • quixote says:

      We live in such a lawless hall of mirrors now my first thought was “Suicide? Or the worst case of suicide-by-polonium-or-fill-in-the-blank I ever saw?”

      We need to see actual justice start happening with some of these human stains.

      • quixote says:

        I don’t understand the sequence of events. He hanged himself but “was found with marks on his neck.” Since when do hanging victims let themselves off the noose?

        I’m off to read Julie Brown’s link, which probably answers all that, but part of me really doesn’t want to. The news I want to read is that the *law* finally gets all these garbage piles.

        • bostonboomer says:

          He was found with marks on his neck the first time. The second time he was unresponsive, could not be revived. No word so far on how he hanged himself or why he was taken off suicide watch.

  3. RonStill4Hills says:

    Is it even possible for Cheeto Hitler to sound any more idiotic with respect to North Korea? Why don’t his keeper sedate him and keep him for making public statements.