We Need to Reboot the Two Party System

When in the course of human events, a political system becomes so corrupt and so obviously subservient to theocrats, corporatecrats, and plutocrats, the people living under the system need to “dissolve” some political bands.  I suggest we spend our time this election cycle pulling the plug on the band of Ugly Teahadis. This election we need to ensure that the self-destruction of the Republican party becomes complete and then, we need to turn our jaundiced eyes towards the Democratic Party.  The stated purpose of our government is to ensure the ability for all of us to pursue life, liberty and justice.  We cannot do so when narrow and extreme religious views completely rule one party and the combined money of the extremely wealthy and corporate entities control both.

Here’s just a few things today that demonstrate the need to send the Republican Party into the History books with the Whigs.

They talk jobs, but then they vote like the rest of us don’t need no stinking jobs: “Republican objections to spending in veterans jobs bill blocks election-year legislation”.  They are eager to throw every one that works for the betterment of our society on the streets and to the wolves of Wall Street. They hate veterans, firefighters, and teachers but worship orgy-throwing public money-using gamblers like Marc Lede.

The Senate blocked legislation Wednesday that would have established a $1 billion jobs program putting veterans back to work tending to the country’s federal lands and bolstering local police and fire departments.

Republicans said the spending authorized in the bill violated limits that Congress agreed to last year. Democrats fell two votes shy of the 60-vote majority needed to waive the objection, forcing the legislation back to committee.

Supporters loosely modeled their proposal after the President Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s Civilian Conservation Corps used during the Great Depression to put people to work planting trees, building parks and constructing dams. They said the latest monthly jobs report, showing a nearly 11 percent unemployment rate for veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan, merited action from Congress.

Who are the real parasites on the society and our country?  Is it teachers,veterans and firefighters or the people that gambled our economy, our home values, and our jobs into a Great Recession and then begged to be bailed out so they could pay themselves exorbitant bonuses and lobby for lower taxes on their gambling earnings?  I’m a teacher.  My marginal federal tax rate is higher than Mittens and I’m the parasite? All of my income is subject to social security taxes  and I’m the parasite?  My savings is in this country in both investments and banks and I’m the parasite? The people I teach work right here in the US. I help them get jobs. I don’t fire them or send their jobs to China.  AND I’M the parasite?

Republicans no longer seem to care about the truth.  They only care about their ideology, their base, and their power agenda. Try this one on for size: Fast And Furious Report: No Evidence DOJ Leadership Knew Of Gunwalking Tactics. Remember all that time and money they spent impeaching Eric Holder?

There is no evidence that Attorney General Eric Holder and high-ranking officials at the Justice Department knew that guns were allowed to “walk” during an ATF operation known as Fast and Furious, according to a report released on Wednesday afternoon by the department’s internal watchdog.

Following a 19-month investigation, the Inspector General found that the decision not to take action against low-level “straw purchasers” was made by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) and the Arizona U.S. Attorney’s office. Their decision, according to the report, “was primarily the result of tactical and strategic decisions by the agents and prosecutors, rather than because of any legal limitation on their ability to do so.” Dennis Burke, the head of the U.S. Attorney’s office at the time, resigned from his position in August 2011.

The IG report is considered to be the most comprehensive and least partisan account of the scandal available to date. Unlike investigators with Rep. Darrell Issa’s House Oversight Committee, DOJ investigators had access to criminal investigation files.

Republicans will elect complete loons to our legislative bodies and executive branches who then appoint complete loons to the courts.  Here’s a great example of yet another Republican loon: “GOP Congressional Candidate Says Mideast Turmoil Is Because Of ‘Girly Men’ In The White House”. How many Michelle Bachmanns, Allen Wests, and assorted reality, truth, and modernity deniers do we need before nothing we have left in this country is even functional any more? These are people with a different approach to governing. These people have an insane approach to everything!

A Republican congressional nominee laid the blame for turmoil in the Middle East on “girly men” in the White House.

North Carolina State Sen. David Rouzer (R), the GOP nominee in the state’s 7th congressional district, levied the charge during a speech at a Tea Party Express rally in Wilmington on Sunday. If Romney is elected, Rouzer said, those perpetrating recent violence in the Middle East are going to “cut it out a little bit […] because now we have real men in the White House.” An audience member shouted “No girly men!” prompting Rouzer’s approval: “That’s right, no girly men.”

ROUZER: When we get [Romney and Ryan] in you are going to see a big change, you’re going to see number one that America is going to be respected again around the world. You’re going to see all this turmoil that’s taking place, you’re going to see them look up and say guess what, the American people have spoken and maybe we need to cut it out a little bit, maybe we need to tone it down a little bit, because now we have real men in the White House.

AUDIENCE MEMBER: No girly men!

ROUZER: That’s right, no girly men.

Do we really need a repeat of the Iraq war?  Is this how we want our money spent?  Do you really want to see your social security and medicare used to chase another Neocon wet dream? Do you want your children to be sent to die because of a bunch of chickenhawk war mongers?

While they are focusing on getting more of us killed in Iran, have you read this? Obama official: Benghazi was a terrorist attack

The Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was in fact “a terrorist attack” and the U.S. government has indications that members of al Qaeda were directly involved, a top Obama administration official said Wednesday morning.

“I would say yes, they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy,” Matt Olsen, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said Wednesday at a hearing of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, in response to questioning from Chairman Joe Lieberman (I-CT) about the attack that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

As for who was responsible, Olsen said it appears there were attackers from a number of different militant groups that operate in and around Benghazi, and said there are already signs of al Qaeda involvement.

“We are looking at indications that individuals involved in the attack may have had connections to al Qaeda or al Qaeda’s affiliates; in particular, al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb,” he said.

The U.S. government just isn’t sure yet whether the terrorist attack was pre-planned or whether it was an example of terrorists taking advantage of protests against an anti-Islam film, Olsen said.

So, we’re supposed to think that Russian and Iran are the problem right?  Remember what happened the last time a Republican administration ignored the real threats and went after its boogeymen instead?

Here’s another example for you from Rick Perry: Rick Perry Tells ‘Christian Warriors’ Separation Of Church And State Is Of ‘Satan’.

Rick Perry yesterday urged “Christian warriors” to fight President Obama and the concept of separation of church and state, which, he claimed, is of “Satan.” Perry, who kicked off his quickly failed, embarrassing campaign for president with a million-dollar prayer rally for Christians, also suggested anti-choice activists should “elect women” to pass anti-abortion legislation, and, shockingly, seemed to blame President Obama for the deaths last week of four U.S. foreign service officers, who were killed in Libya after an anti-Muslim film was publicized by Pastor Terry Jones.

“President Obama and his cronies in Washington continue their efforts to remove any trace of religion from American life,” Perry claimed, falsely. He added that the “American family is under seize [sic], traditional values are somehow exclusionary,” and, blamed (of course) “activist courts,” saying:

“It falls on us, we truly are Christian warriors, Christian soldiers, and for us as Americans to stand our ground and to firmly send a message to Washington that our nation is about more than just some secular laws.”

We can not have a functioning government as long as both parties are corrupted by money and one has a base that is just plain bat shit insane.  If there is absolutely anything you can do to shut down republicans in your area from being elected to ANY office, then please do so.  For the sake of children, women, the GLBT community, public servants, the planet, your ability to retire without a grocery cart, veterans, soldiers who have been deployed enough, and the country’s roads, schools, bridges, scientific research, and basic regulation of our food, health, and natural resources … DON”T let any of them get elected! Once the Republican party goes into complete collapse there’s a possibility of several challengers coming out of the ashes that might just be responsive to people. Then, something viable can compete with the Democratic Party and begin to keep it in check.  This election needs to be about making sure the Republican Party Death Spiral is complete. My biggest hope is those pesky religious fanatics go off on their own. But that is only one hope that I have.  Pick a Republican you hate and end their political career!   Please!

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84 Comments on “We Need to Reboot the Two Party System”

  1. Pat Johnson says:

    The most absurd part of listening to the lies and the insanity that goes along with it is the “rush” to provide alternative views on issues that are so far without facts.

    The networks allow some yokel to make outrageous claims then bring on some other pundit to “argue” against it as if there was some merit to be had for insisting the “world is flat”.

    These morons gain notoriety and after awhile are called upon to repeatedly make the same stupid cliams until our eyes cross because of this “moral equivalency” rule that allows the liar air time.

    Repeated often enough, issues like the “birth certificate” manage to take hold and become a fact ridden argument no matter how often it is in direct dispute of the facts.

    The next thing you know the yokel is running for higher office which offers the opportunity to pass legislation based on the same stupidity we have come to accept as political dialogue.

    But I have to say, these past few years the GOP has outdone itself for the nuttery they have produced and the nuts who spew forth from all levels of national governance.

    Introducing laws that grants personhood to a clump of cells has to beat all. So far.

    • dakinikat says:

      I don’t think there are any ‘serious’ people in the republican party any more. Just serious money. I think if the party crashes and burns and splits, there is a possibility of having a party that can start making the Democratic party behave. It’s called competition. And you all thought I was a commie muslim usurper from New Orleans!

      • dakinikat says:

        They shouldn’t be sending people that belong in nut houses to state houses. It makes everything dysfunctional which is what I think the monies-that-be want because they’re doing very well under this chaos.

  2. ANonOMouse says:

    Great post Dak! No doubt we have to vote them out in order of the most to the least offensive.

    You mention Ricky Perry and it’s important to note that Ricky is a Dominionist. He is the man the teavangelicals wanted to run for POTUS. Perry essentially supports a Teavangelical Theocracy. He is supported by Teavangelical Preachers and folks who claim to be having Prophetic visions (I’m guessing they’re schizo and if not, con-artists) who want America to be totally ruled by their vision of a christianocracy/theocracy. They are scary people. They hate the gay, oppose choice and reproductive freedom and believe women should be subservient to men. They are not too high on people of color in general, they are xenophobes . They make Mad Men look like the good times. They would take us back to the dark ages.

  3. ecocatwoman says:

    Marshmallow roast at the Republican Implosion Party! Truly inspired post, kat.

  4. NW Luna says:

    This is an up-front and validly intense post.

    The two-party system is not working for us. The people who really keep this country going are not represented. wages for the 99% keep going down in real dollars. Those who work the least — or not at all — live off their manipulative investments and bonuses from foreclosing people out of their homes.

    • RalphB says:

      A hearty hell yes to this whole post and your comment. We’ve been on this current path for the past 35 years or so and it’ just gotten worse and worse. People need to call a halt and, it seems to me, a good place to start is taking down the GOP. It seems completely worthless now other than as a vessel for propaganda and irrational hatreds.

      • dakinikat says:

        I believe the only way to clean up the Democratic Party is to get rid of today’s republican party and replace it with something that will actually keep the Dems in check. That way we can get the back and forth of policy instead of rent-seeking favor.

      • pdgrey says:

        I believe this with all my heart, Dak.

    • dakinikat says:

      I can’t believe this one …
      @Reuters: Trying to recover, Romney says he is poor Americans’ best bet http://reut.rs/UpOGu6 / #nottheonion

      the hell he is

      • ANonOMouse says:

        “Romney says he is poor Americans’ best bet”

        Brhahahahaha. Is that a $10K bet Mitty? What a dunce! Does he think we can’t hear or that we didn’t understand what he said to his rich donors? The person (server/waiter) who recorded that session should receive the Congressional Medal of Honor because she/he likely saved us from a pre-emptive strike against Iran and maybe WWIII.

        Turn the lights out when you leave, Mitt!

      • pdgrey says:

        ANonMouse i was going to bet you $10,000.00 dollars!

      • ANonOMouse says:


      • ANonOMouse says:

        The problem with both Mitt and Ann is they have no clue WHO they’re talking to.

        As noted in the previous post Ann, defending Mitt’s video performance, shoveled out this pile of horseshit, “It’s unfortunate when something gets misinterpreted like this or it gets taken out of context because if you really do listen to everything that he does say, he’s talking about what we’re facing in America right now,”

        Well we listened and we heard and WE understood what Mitt said. We did not misinterpret and we DID understand the context, It is Mitt Romney who doesn’t understand because HE WAS BORN OUT OF CONTEXT and he can’t even begin to understand where most of us are or where we come from. MItt and Ann just don’t understand the HELP! Not even those of us who are filming them from the serving table. 🙂

        They just need to trot their little ponies on back to their Malibu Barbie beach house and live out their days in their delusions.

    • Ditto Luna and Ralph, you are kicking out like mad Kat!

  5. pdgrey says:

    Dak, I was downstairs again and can’t thank you enough for this post.

    • dakinikat says:

      Thank you. These last few weeks have just lit a fire under me. I am so tired of all this race-, and gay-, Islam-, and woman-baiting. I’ve spent two weeks purging so-called Hillary supporters from my twitter stream and my face book. The Republican party is not a reasonable alternative to anything. It’s the part of hate, big money, and religious persecution. I can’t believe what’s shown up on my feeds. WTF is wrong with these people? Do they really think that Hillary and Bill Clinton would support any of this? Do they HEAR or SEE Hillary or Bill Clinton supporting any of this? I do not want to live in the fundamentalist christian version of Iran and I’m convinced that’s what the agenda is all about for the Republican Base.

  6. janicen says:

    Perry’s calling on his fellow Christian warriors? Really? Jeebus Christmas, to really get them fired up he needs to remind them that the forces of Gog and Magog are at work. These are truly frightening times but not in the sense that Perry and his ilk would have us believe.

    • Pat Johnson says:

      A discovery was made on an ancient piece of writing that suggests that Jesus was married.

      Now if that is a fact, it kind of dismisses the rest of the narrative that he ascended to heaven on a cloud but not before he left word to hate the gays and subjagate the women.

      I have come to believe over time that there was a Jewish rabbi named Jesus who got as fed up to the eyeteeth with the crap he was forced to live with under Roman law and just threw a hissy fit (not unlike some of us here 2,000 years later) and found himself at the end of a Roman sword.

      He spoke the truth to power but he is not divine which was not ruled until centuries after his death which tells you something right there.

      But this narrative captured the world and in 2012 we are still killing one another – if not just plain discriminating – about it.

  7. prolixous says:

    If only there was a Roach Motel large enough for an old-fashioned Marc Leder Russian Orgy fundraising party…

  8. quixote says:

    Once, long ago, I rented a room in a house belonging to a guy running for Congress. I’d hear him on the phone, talking to his trolls, about how many “heads” such-and-such an ad might deliver. Voters are cattle to professional pols. They don’t give a damn what you think, any more than the farmer worries about the cattle. The only question is whether they can be herded into the chute when the truck arrives.

    After you’ve voted for them, you’re irrelevant to professional politicians. They’ve got everything they need out of you until the next election. They’re confident that in the future the same combination of Vote-for-me-the-other-guy-will-beat-you-up-worse plus a few platitudes on the teevee will get them back in. So far, the assumption has been confirmed every time.

    That’s why I have such a huge problem with, “We’ll vote for the Dems now. And then we’ll get them to shape up.”

    It doesn’t work that way. Right now is the only time they’re paying any kind of attention. And the only words they understand are: I will not vote for you.

    So, anyway, long way to say that I completely agree the Teahadis are dangerous lunatics. But they’ll never become irrelevant if the Dems get rewarded for their protection racket.

    And, yes, I do know that means there’s no way to win in this election. But that doesn’t change the fact that the only way to stop a protection racket is to stop paying the protection vote.

    • dakinikat says:

      I keep scratching my head for a different path but really giving the rest of us a viable alternative seems impossible. Casting a series of protest votes and votes for sincere people with no chance doesn’t seem to be very effective. Suggestions?

      • Fannie says:

        Thanks for a great post Dak………..I have locked myself in before, and called it voting for the lesser of the two evils, and the protest vote…….sorta like in the days past when I used to like having a cigarette with my coffee, but soon it lost it’s taste, and I smelled like crap, and had to toss them aside forever. I haven’t gotten away from the coffee, and would love a cup of your community. We have got to finish this (vote them out), and let everything begin to flow again, and get on with sky dancing.

      • quixote says:

        Dak, Jill Stein said it: “In Egypt, having more than two parties was illegal. Here it’s merely impossible.”

        The only suggestion I see is to start on the real solution: better choices. That won’t do us any good now or soon. But trying for the illusion of some control by participating in the non-choices on offer is what got us here. We get to choose between a misogynist war criminal with a record and a wannabe misogynist war criminal. That’s not a choice. It’s an insult to democracy. (I actually did a post about this over on my blog: Throwing away your vote on a “loser”.)

        At some point, the way I see it, the only real choice is to say No and do the right thing, no matter what the cost.

        The kleptocrats who set it up always make sure you have more to lose at the moment by not going along. There’s no cost-benefit calculus that can get you to a long-term sustainable answer in that situation.

      • propertius says:

        I’m just skeptical about whether you can change bad behavior by rewarding it. Unfortunately in this election, that’s what you’ll be doing no matter which legacy party you vote for.

  9. alibe says:

    Great post…and I DO mean GREAT! I can not decide if the Dems get in again it will encourage the GOP to become even more insane and the Dems to follow suit. I don’t think there is any way to kill the GOP. And the Dems have just become more republican.
    I think the public has consciously rejected a good bit of the MS Corporate media. The Times, The Post etc are all hurting. And I think it is a direct result of there being no sense of any truth in the papers anymore. It feels a lot like Pravda. The TV networks are feeling the same thing. Viewership is down. The news programs are as insane as the GOP. There are nothing but hacks and old hacks and stupid hacks trying to out shout one fool after another. I will not watch any more. That is why sports are as popular as they are. It is a shield against the insanity. (Not saying sports are not part of the insanity but…. I would rather watch Golf or Football than fools arguing and obfuscating). Whom to vote for is the question of the hour. I can not vote for either Romney or Obama. So time for Jill Stein to step up. Maybe the best course of action for all is to cancel our cable and satelite TV. Force the media to detox and take the pledge. We should all go on strike against the MSM. I can not take it anymore.

    • quixote says:

      I grew up without TV and haven’t had one in a couple of decades. And you can see how massively far out my ideas are. So be careful, turning off the box. Next thing you know, without that steady stream of stuff channeling you toward normality, you too will find you can’t understand why people don’t see the most obvious things. 😯 Watch out!

      (Another Stein-o-voter here, of course.)

      • Pat Johnson says:

        Just think, you are missing out on the phenomenon that is Honey Boo Boo!

      • bostonboomer says:

        I grew up without TV too. Maybe that’s how I ended up being less brainwashed than my classmates. I stopped watching TV again in 2008, but I do watch some things on line and listen to the radio.l

      • NW Luna says:

        I grew up without TV too! And I have never owned one.

        I suspect this characteristic is common among us non-koolaid analytical observant fact-checking types.

    • dakinikat says:

      Candidates like Jill Stein just cannot get serious media attention. It’s really quite unfair.

      • RalphB says:

        Yes, it’s unfair but it is still true. Voting for Stein is like voting for Nader in 2000 because there was no difference between Gush and Bore. Unless you’re in a deep blue or deep red state, it’s a stupid step to take because a Romney election is not going to lead to a President Chomsky in 2016, no matter what the fever dreams say.

      • ANonOMouse says:

        I’d never encourage anyone to not vote for Stein, but to me it’s just a wasted vote. I’m more afraid of what the Teabot would do in the WH than anything a 2nd term Obama could do. The problem with 3rd party candidates is well documented. No money, no way. That’s why the only viable 3rd party candidacy in my lifetime was Ross Perot. Even wagering a huge chunk of his own money, Perot only got 19% in the GE.

      • bostonboomer says:

        The media should be forced to allow third party candidates into the debates, IMO. At least they might influence the discussion.

      • Seriously says:

        “Voting for Stein is like voting for Nader in 2000….aRomney election is not going to lead to President Chomsky in 2016”

        That’s true, but the reality is that Obama’s re-election will probably lead to “Absolutely any extremist nutjob Republican of fever dreams 2016” while Romney’s election will probably lead to “Absolutely any handpicked, useless right-leaning party hack Dem 2016” followed by “Absolutely any extremist nutjob Republican of fever dreams 2020.” The way things stand there’s not really a clear path for getting off the swinging pendulum. Trying to express support for an alternate brand of politics is futile, there’s no doubt about it, it’s just not necessarily any MORE futile than any other strategy.

      • SophieCT says:

        “stupid step” … “wasted vote”

        You do yourselves and this blog no favors by adopting that point of view and language. One would think that when an informed citizen goes into the booth to vote, however they so choose, it is both wise and well-spent. If every voter cast an honest in the booth, there is no way either Romney or Obama would win.

        As for Nader and Gore and 2000, there is enough data out there to prove that Nadar didn’t cost Gore the election. If there had been on Solomon on the Supreme Court, he or she would have had the wisdom to realize that the difference in votes was smaller than their ability to measure, which I believe is called a statistical tie. Solomon would have split Florida and Gore would have had enough electoral votes to be president and Bush wouldn’t have. Of course, the simplest way for Gore to have won would have been to take Tennessee.

      • ANonOMouse says:

        “You do yourselves and this blog no favors by adopting that point of view and language.”

        Well hello SophieCt…..My statement made clear that I would never tell anyone not to vote for Stein but that “to me it’s just a wasted vote” and then I went on to explain why I wouldn’t WASTE MY vote in that way. The first reason is that I fear the GOP/TP and POTUS Romney. I believe he would be a disaster beyond imagination. The second is Stein cannot win because no one can become POTUS in the U.S. without a boat load of money and a political ground game. The only viable 3rd party candidate in my lifetime. Ross Perot, ended with 19% of the vote. It’s nothing more than a feeble protest vote that doesn’t even have a chance of sending a message. But I will cast a protest vote. I will cast it against Romney and the ideology of the GOP/TP by voting for Obama. Now that vote will send a message.

        I don’t think anything being said or written here is going to swing this election, I think Mitt Romney’s dumb to dumber utterings has already accomplished that.

        No hard feelings and it’s good to see you again. Peace

      • ANonOMouse says:

        For the record SophieCT, we’ve hardly discussed Stein here, but when we have, it’s been respectful of Klein as a candidate and a person

      • NW Luna says:

        I’m voting for Jill Stein.

        The Electoral College system is illogical and undemocratic. It’s even worse than the caucus system. Although I am in a blue state, our Democratic Party apparati keep the caucus system going and refuse to switch to a primary. The State offered a primary in ’04 but the Dem Party refused to consider those votes, and selected delegates based on caucus results. So far attempts to infiltrate and oust the caucus-bots have not worked.

      • propertius says:

        I’m sure the Whigs made similar arguments in 1848.

      • Seriously says:

        Which only serves to suggest that it takes a rather *potent* impetus to make an established party non-viable. Reinstituting slavery and a potential Compromise of 2014 might do it, but it’s hard to envision what else will.

      • SophieCT says:

        Good to see you too, Mouse.

    • dakinikat says:

      I’d like to add that there are people that need help to beat teabaggers everywhere and up and down the ticket too … we need to make sure they don’t get in any where

      • SophieCT says:

        This is probably the number one reason not to piss off the Stein voters!

      • dakinikat says:

        I’ve posted several posts that I understand people voting for Roseanne, Jill, and even a libertarian if that floats your boat. The one thing I cannot grok is any one that can cast a vote for Romney and Ryan that believes in the civil rights of Gay people, the rights of women, education, health and well-being of children, the planet, safety, the economy, our diplomatic status and war status, and the separation of church and state.

        oh, jut go read this post cause I already said all of this …

        I just want to crush the republican party so badly that it has to reinvent itself or break into pieces right now .. I’m tired of a group of religious whackos and ayn rand fetishists ruining this country … Democrats are not on my happy list but none of them are bat shit crazy. Bat shit crazy does not belong in government.

      • SophieCT says:

        Dak, my comment wasn’t to you. I’m clear on what your position is, which is why I also said they did no favors to this blog. I agree that Romney/Ryan is disgusting, vile, etc., etc. but that’s no reason for anyone to adopt ‘bot like conversational tactics, especially towards people who are likely allies on every other line on the ballot.

      • RalphB says:

        If you’re talking to me, I’m not a Bot of any kind. However we have a disagreement about what might be best in 2012. In a deep red or blue state, I think a vote for Stein or Che would be fine. I don’t agree that it’s sound strategy in swing states.

        We don’t agree. I don’t have a problem with that. If you have a problem with it, it’s yours. By the way, we can disagree without being disagreeable I hope.

      • ANonOMouse says:

        SophieCT…..I’m not hearing bot here, not even a little. Disagreeing about the overall effect or lack thereof of voting for a 3rd party candidate isn’t being a bot.

      • SophieCT says:

        Geez, doesn’t anyone read (me or themselves). I didn’t call anyone a bot. I said “adopt ‘bot like conversational tactics.” I called out using the words “stupid” and “wasted.” Please don’t make what I said into more than what I said. And please don’t turn it on me. I thought I was rather agreeable for being stupid.

    • ANonOMouse says:

      Excuse my brain lapse “Stein” not Klein.

  10. Pat Johnson says:

    BTW: If Jesus were alive today (and I don’t mean Rick Santorum) he would despise these people straight up.

  11. RalphB says:

    Roger Simon has a few laughs saying “I told you so”.

    Mitt is down; out looms next

  12. RalphB says:

    Looks from headlines as if they are explaining who is included in that 47%.

    Leaked Romney Videos Make The Front Pages Of 41 Swing State Newspapers

    • pdgrey says:

      Thanks for the wrap up of headlines Ralph. I can tell you The Daytona Paper used to be Democratic, sold and now just shit. i quit getting it after a month of the buy out. I thought they would never stop calling me.

  13. pdgrey says:

    Eugene Robinson on Chris Matthews just called the redistribution shit from Romney “when in trouble break glass”.

  14. pdgrey says:

    Did i use a word that sent me in moderation? Or are you getting trolls on this post?

  15. Caro says:

    Just a slight correction.–“”life liberty and the pursuit of happiness” is part of the Declaration of Independence.

    Our contract with each other for a shared government is the Constitution, which states, “We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” (http://bit.ly/NCVpzV)

    Notice the “promote the general welfare” part.

    Right wingers shorten this statement to “We don’t want anything we have to pay for, except a gigantic military force.”

    Carolyn Kay

  16. bostonboomer says:

    Susanna Martinez rejects Romney’s 47% comment.

    “We have a lot of people that are at the poverty level in New Mexico, but they count just as much as anybody else,” Martinez said, according to the Albuquerque Journal. “There is a net that does allow them to be caught and taken care of, whether it be through medical services, whether it be food services, whether it be with funding for apartments, for housing.

    “I think, certainly the fact that New Mexico provides that safety net is a good thing,” she added.

  17. Silent Kate says:

    This is a great post. Maybe it will give me something to actually PRAY for. I can’t stand the religious fanatics including that pompous ass Santorum! The Tea Party ones are horrible. As a woman I cannot see how any of my gender would vote for these nuts!

  18. pdgrey says:

    I believe the Republicans did this to diminish his authority and keep him weak enough to use the civil rights bill on voter suppression. The other stuff was icing on the cake.

  19. HT says:

    I’m not a C&L reader usually, but this one video is very interesting. Harry Reid

    • pdgrey says:

      I saw that HT, very interesting.

      • HT says:

        essentially, Harry is refuting every single point in Romneys leaked tape speech. I didn’t think there were any democrats with spines left – other than Warren and Pelosi (yes I know, but she gets things done). Harry just proved me wrong.

      • propertius says:

        Talk is cheap, HT. Will Reid stand up when someone has to actually fight for Social Security and Medicare? Will he call the Republicans’ bluff when they threaten a filibuster?

  20. ANonOMouse says:

    Fox News Poll

    “President Obama leads in the crucial swing states of Ohio, Virginia and Florida, according to new state polling of likely voters from Fox News. Obama leads Republican nominee Mitt Romney by the same margin in Ohio and Virginia, 49 percent to 42 percent, and has a 49 percent to 44 percent edge over Romney in Florida. From their report:

    “Obama is nearly matching his 2008 support in these key states while Romney is under-performing compared to Republican John McCain,” says Democratic pollster Chris Anderson, who conducts the Fox News poll with Republican pollster Daron Shaw.

    “And a significant enthusiasm deficit among Romney backers suggests he will have headwinds as he seeks to close the gap with the president and turn out his voters.”

  21. pdgrey says:

    Mitt the twit is having trouble in that state with the right tree height and that place he and mrs. twit were born.

  22. NW Luna says:

    So Mitt Romney thinks if you don’t pay income taxes, then you’re a handout-addicted moocher who can’t take responsibility for bettering yourself.

    Harsh. That’s mean to say such a thing about Boeing.

    Wait … Boeing? That wasn’t who Romney was talking about in his closed-door riff about how the freeloading 47 percent are dragging down this otherwise hardworking, Republican nation.

    Yet it remains peskily true that in any accounting of who pays zilch to the federal enterprise, our aerospace superstar is at the top of a long list. In 2011, Boeing had no net income-tax liability for the fourth year in a row, despite $5.1 billion in profits. ….

    It makes no sense that a candidate who wants to cut income taxes even further would be aggrieved by people not paying. Wasn’t that the goal?


    • propertius says:

      Given that Boeing is a major defense contractor, they’d be “government dependents” even if they did pay taxes. 😉

  23. Greywolf says:

    Love this post. To truly have a left, we need to bring the right back from the fringes. Only then, does it seem the center is represented. We need balance between the parties, IMHO.