Holy Hell, Wednesday Afternoon
Posted: July 27, 2016 Filed under: History, hunger, just because, open thread, Republican presidential politics, Russia, the GOP, The Right Wing, U.S. Politics | Tags: 2016 Hillary Clinton, Democratic National Convention 2016, Pope Francis 74 CommentsToday is Wednesday, and it is a day of most importance to all “Gawd Furrin'” good xtians in Banjoville….it is a day that you will find most businesses closed. Yup…can’t even get you a new confederate flag or a can of lighter fluid down at the Local Red KKK Convenient Store because Wednesday is a day of rest and reflection and prayer for bigoted racist in this quiet red-neck backwoods mountain town.
I wonder if the talk at church this evening will be about the historic moment from yesterday’s DNC in Philadelphia. Hillary Clinton: The First Lady to Become the Nominee – The Atlantic
In a historic moment, the Democratic Party formally nominated Hillary Clinton for president Tuesday, making her the first female nominee for the nation’s highest office in 240 years.
I am so grateful for Boston Boomer, for putting up a thread this morning…as you all may know, we are in the process of moving to a new house…and today we are moving the big items. So again this is an open thread. Here are a few links to get you started:
Here is the transcript of the speech last night by Bill Clinton. I didn’t even get a chance to see it. We cannot even get satellite service here…the new house is that far into the mountains that the trees block all line of sight to the satellites above! From what I understand, it was a knockout:
Transcript: Bill Clinton’s DNC speech – CNNPolitics.com
And next, a few links on Trump:
Trump Says Russia Will Be ‘Rewarded’ For Hack, But Pence Promises ‘Serious Consequences’ | Mediaite
In a bit of mixed messaging,Donald Trump promised mighty rewards to Russia in exchange for interfering in the election, while his VP pick promised “serious consequences.”
At a press conference Wednesday morning Trump encouraged Russia to release State Department emails in order to injure Hillary Clinton‘s campaign. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press,” he said.
Shortly afterward, his Vice Presidential nominee, Indian Gov. Mike Pence issued a statement saying that, rather than rewards, there would be “serious consequences” to Russia if it was behind the hack of the DNC emails released to the public last Friday. (Expertsbelieve that Russia is responsible.)
Pence’s statement reads in full:
The FBI will get to the bottom of who is behind the hacking. If it is Russia and they are interfering in our elections, I can assure you both parties and the United States government will ensure there are serious consequences. That said, the Democrats singularly focusing on who might be behind it and not addressing the basic fact that they’ve been exposed as a party who not only rigs the government, but rigs elections while literally accepting cash for federal appointments is outrageous. The American people now have absolute and further proof of the corruption that exists around Hillary Clinton. It should disqualify her from office, if the media did their job. [emphasis added]
Not backing down, Trump tweeted, “If Russia or any other country or person has Hillary Clinton’s 33,000 illegally deleted emails, perhaps they should share them with the FBI!”
Shakesville: What Donald Trump Just Did Is Tantamount to Treason
At a press conference earlier today, Donald Trump said: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the thirty thousand emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. Let’s see if that happens.”
Holy fuck!
To put that in perspective…take a look at this headline:
Donald Trump To Begin Getting Intelligence Briefings : NPR
Now, let all that sink in a bit, and tell me if you don’t feel ill right about now.
More links to ponder:
From Wonkette: Donald Trump Wishes Democrats Would Maybe Use Some Patriotic Imagery, The Commies
Cheering crowds greet Pope as he arrives in Krakow – BBC News
Pope Francis calls for solidarity with refugees during speech in Kraków | World news | The Guardian
Column: What we need to do to prevent food shortages on a global scale | PBS NewsHour
Hey, It Was Hard Not to Cry at This Historic DNC — Vulture
The glass ceiling: a metaphor that needs to be smashed | US news | The Guardian
I hope everyone has a smashing afternoon!
Wednesday Reads: Chubby Sh-h-h….
Posted: June 15, 2016 Filed under: morning reads, open thread, Republican politics, U.S. Politics, Women's Rights | Tags: #FuckYouBernieSanders, 2016 Hillary Clinton, Brock Turner, Donald Trump WTF, Omar Mateen, Pulse Nightclub Shooting 23 CommentsGood Morning…
…maybe afternoon.
Hey….what does Hillary say?
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(It looks like her…doesn’t it!)
And by all accounts, she will have a few outcast among those in the “Fan” base.
Can you believe that Sanders is still swinging his figurative big dick around?
Hillary Clinton won the D.C. primary primary last night, by around 60 points. It’s over over. For real over. No more pretending it’s not over. It’s done.
Clinton and Bernie Sanders (and key members of their teams) met for a chat last night, and it sounds like the least fun meeting ever! I have never read about a meeting that I was more glad to have not attended!
Relatedly: My top secret sources tell me that Sanders didn’t like THE ESTABLISHMENT that Clinton chose for their meeting.
Sanders still in the race after meeting with Clinton | TheHill
Bernie Sanders is staying in the Democratic presidential race after meeting with rival Hillary Clinton, the party’s presumptive nominee, for nearly two hours at a Washington, D.C., hotel on Tuesday night.
Sanders and Clinton met at the Capital Hilton just blocks from the White House to plot a way forward after the Democratic primary season came to a close on Tuesday.
Neither took questions from press after the meeting. They were whisked away in black cars behind the protection of legions of security guards and campaign aides.
Sanders and his wife Jane went in and out of the front entrance of the hotel, which was lined with cheering onlookers who snapped pictures and yelled out his name. Campaign manager Jeff Weaver also attended the meeting.
Clinton went in and out of the back entrance to little fanfare. She was joined by campaign chairman John Podesta and campaign manager Robby Mook.
The Sanders campaign released a statement late Tuesday night saying the group had “a positive discussion about how best to bring more people into the political process and about the dangerous threat that Donald Trump poses to our nation.”
Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs said there are still a variety of issues where they are “seeking common ground,” including raising the minimum wage, campaign finance reform, universal healthcare and more affordable college tuition.
“Sanders and Clinton agreed to continue working to develop a progressive agenda that addresses the needs of working families and the middle class and adopting a progressive platform for the Democratic National Convention,” Briggs said in the statement.
See, Sanders and wife Jane went out the front door…Clinton was taken out the back way. What the fuck is that all about?
More on this Sanders shit:
No More Mister Nice Blog: Brass Balls, Huge Ego. No, Not Trump.
Bernie’s scaring me…Cannonfire
Although I must give credit where it is due…and someone at Fox News was definitely swinging some big dick yesterday, and she sure surprised me!
Fox News’s Gretchen Carlson Accidentally Forgot To Be Stupid Again | Wonkette
“There’s no doubt Omar Mateen was able to kill so many people because he was firing an AR-15,” Carlson said. “A military-style assault weapon, a weapon easier to buy in the state of Florida than buying a handgun. Florida sets a three day waiting period for purchasing handguns, but the state mandates no waiting period for any gun that requires two hands to hold.”
She then pointed to a recent poll showing that 50% of Americans support an assault weapons ban.
“Do we need AR-15s to hunt and kill deer? Do we need them to protect our families?” she asked. “I’m in favor of people being able to carry. I think some of these mass shooting would have been less deadly if that were the case.”
“But I’m also with the majority today, taking a stand,” Carlson said, referring to the ban.
“Can’t we hold true the sanctity of the Second Amendment while still having common sense?”
As Wonkette makes a point, this isn’t the first time Gretchen has shown some decency…the last time was a moment five years ago on the curvy couch:
Do you remember when stupid old Barack Obama had absolutely nothing to do with killing Osama bin Laden? In the aftermath, one of the complaints (besides the fact that stupid old Barack Obama acted like he had anything at all to do with killing Osama bin Laden) was that bin Laden had been given Muslim ceremonial rites before becoming food for the fishies. This is because the mental giants at Fox were very angry, we guess, that Osama bin Laden was dead. Wait no, that can’t be right. It was because they had to be angry about SOMETHING. ANYWAY, there they were, all het up that Barack Obama hadn’t personally pissed on bin Laden’s corpse, which he definitely had nothing to do with killing, Calvin-styley.
“Shoulda peed on him,” said the rapey one.
“Or made a doody!” said the stupid one.And that’s when Gretchen Carlson’s head spun around on her body three times, her eyes became insane Michele Bachmann eyes, and actual devils came out of her mouth as she actually YELLED that YOU GIVE THE PERSON THEIR PROPER RELIGIOUS BURIAL RITES.
“Whoa,” we said to ourselves but not out loud, “Gretchen Carlson actually takes religious liberty seriously, good for her!” Then we went back to masturbating with a copy of the Satanic Bible.
Now normally I would be bothered by the reference of calling a woman stupid in that blog title…but remember, in the light of some of the outrageous things this woman has said before…I think it fits.
And since this post is becoming theme-like in a sense, in that I am focusing on dickless wonders who need to compensate by beating their chest and violating all sorts of sensible behavior and humanity (more on that in a minute unfortunately). Here is yet another example of a woman with balls, giving it up but good:
Just watch it…
(Oh and by the way, if you want to…remember a while back I wrote about Florida and the mental health facilities…it was a series of articles published by The Tampa Times. Well, Sam Bee also did a piece on that the same night she did the Orlando bit. It is here if you want to see it. Florida’s Mental Health | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee | TBS – YouTube)
Anyway, here are the links I was talking about…the big swinging dick waving asshole news, in full dump fashion.
WV ‘Sovereign Citizen’ Murders Three With AR-15 | Crooks and Liars
Everything changes when an AR-15 is present. Everything.
Monday there was another mass shooting in West Virginia, which turns out to have been a sovereign citizen who had a dispute with his neighbors over firewood. Instead of resolving the matter peacefully, he pulled out an AR-15 and shot them all to death.
No, really. Over firewood.
Balkinization: Great Speeches in American History Delivered by Donald Trump
Washington’s Farewell Address: “Today I’m announcing my candidacy for a third term, as I am indispensable.”
Lincoln’s Second Inaugural: “With malice toward all, with charity for none, let us give these Confederate traitors what they deserve.”
FDR’s First Inaugural: “Be afraid. Be very, very afraid.”
John F. Kennedy’s First Inaugural: “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what your country can do for me.”
Barry Goldwater’s 1964 Republican Convention Speech: “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”
Ronald Reagan’s Challenger Speech: “Tonight I want to talk to you about the losers who run NASA and blew up our space shuttle.”
Okay, he didn’t actually say those things…but here is something Trump did say:
Trump accuses Obama of siding with U.S. enemies | MSNBC
Trump adopted a self-congratulatory posture about the deadliest mass shooting in American history; Trump said President Obama should resign because he won’t use the anti-Muslim phrasing Republicans like to hear; Trump suggested the president might be a terrorist sympathizer; Trump stripped the Washington Post of its press credentials; and Trumpdelivered a nauseating and brazenly dishonest speech demanding a ban on Muslims entering the country and targeting American Muslims’ loyalties.And really, that’s just a sampling – from the last five days.Yesterday, after President Obama made Trump’s rhetoric look ridiculous, the Republican candidate responded in the most Trump-like fashion possible, telling the Associated Press:“President Obama claims to know our enemy, and yet he continues to prioritize our enemy over our allies, and for that matter, the American people.“When I am President, it will always be America First.”The Atlantic’s James Fallows noted soon after, “Saying that the Commander in Chief has prioritized the enemy’s interests is an accusation of treason…. I am not aware of any previous case, whatsoever, of a national-ticket candidate publicly accusing a president or presidential nominee of a capital offense.”
NC Trump Rally Account Is The Scariest Thing You’ll Read Today | Crooks and Liars
New Evidence Donald Trump Didn’t Pay Taxes – The Daily Beast
Donald Trump in Atlanta: Gov. Nathan Deal cautious at fund raiser | Political Insider blog
Donald Trump in Atlanta: Supporters gather at the Fox Theatre | Political Insider blog– Check out the picture at that link…it is enough to give you nightmares.
In other related news…on the dominate male dick show part…Judge Aaron Persky removed from sexual assault case amid complaints after Brock Turner verdict
Man who called Orlando shooting ‘community service’ loses… | www.ajc.com
And…for all those with little chubbies…Maddow shows how frighteningly easy it was for Orlando shooter to get gun inside the club
“In terms of understanding what happened inside that dark nightclub at 2:00 in the morning Sunday and how one guy was able to kill 49 other people and wound at least that many, it helps to know and I think it’s chilling to know that one of the things that this American gun company markets about this gun is that it is super easy to fire,” Maddow said in footage posted by Media Matters. “It’s easier to fire than an AR-15. And it fires faster and with less kick than your standard AR-15.”
Maddow showed footage of the commercial promoting the Sig Sauer MCX, which she said was confirmed as the weapon used in the rampage on Saturday night. The ad shows a lone gunman making his way through a dimly-lit room firing the rifle, and highlights the fact that it can be folded up.
“They fall all over themselves in their marketing material to say how much respect they as a company have for the military and for law enforcement personnel,” she said. “They say they make these guns as great as possible because they know police officers and soldiers’ lives are depending on these guns. And then they sell them to the general public. They sell them to anybody who walks in off the street. They’re legal for just about anyone to buy.”
She also pointed out that she has shot AR-15 rifles at shooting ranges in the past.
“One of the things that is unnerving about it is that when you hold one and when you fire it, it’s light enough and controllable enough and easy enough to handle and use, that literally a four-year old or a five-year old could reasonable handle one, and fire in the right direction,” she said. “It’s a very easy-to-use weapon that’s very light and very easy to handle and that doesn’t kick much when you pull the trigger. This Sig Sauer MCX is designed to be even easier to fire than that.”
And in another article…
Helen Ubinas: I bought an AR-15 assault rifle in 7 minutes – SFGate
Seven minutes. That’s how long it took me to buy an AR-15, the semi-automatic rifle used in the deadliest mass shooting in modern American history.
Seven minutes. From the moment I handed the salesperson my driver’s license to the moment I passed my background check.
It likely will take more time than that during the forthcoming round of vigils to respectfully read the names of the more than 100 people who were killed or injured.
It’s obscene.
Why can people on the terrorist watch list buy guns, and other FAQs | PBS NewsHour
Top doctors group declares gun deaths a ‘public health crisis’ | TheHill
Physicians Demand End To 20-Year-Old Ban On Gun Violence Research | ThinkProgress
I think that is a good group of links on the Gun Control issues.
In this next article… a sociological look at Mateen and Brock Turner: Two violent men, two symptoms of the same sickness
America woke up this weekend to the news of the deadliest civilian mass shooting in the nation’s history. The senseless tragedy will undoubtedly evoke anger, sadness and helplessness.
In the meantime, many will forget to think and talk about Stanford swimmer Brock Turner’s crime and his “summer vacation” jail sentence: three months for the vile sexual assault of an unconscious woman.
As a sociologist, I was struck not by the abrupt shift to a new moral crisis, but by the continuity. Sociologists look for the bigger picture, and in my mind, Mateen’s crime didn’t displace Turner’s. Yet the media simply replaced one outrage with another, moving our attention away from Stanford and toward Orlando, as if these two crimes were unrelated. They’re not.
In world news….
Avocado shortage fuels crime wave in New Zealand | World news | The Guardian
While here at home:
Michelle Obama’s Kick-Ass Lady Crew Celebrates ‘The United State Of Women’
Outside White House Women’s Summit, Activists Demand Executive Action on Abortion Law – Rewire
Yeah, go figure….
Hillary gave a speech today: In Pittsburgh Hillary Clinton Assails Donald Trump’s Magical Thinking | Still4Hill
And our last link…The world lights up in tribute to the lives lost in Orlando – in pictures | US news | The Guardian
Go and see all the pictures around the world…
Let’s call this an open thread…post what your thinking about.
Friday Reads: It’s up to you New York! New York!!
Posted: April 8, 2016 Filed under: Afternoon Reads | Tags: 2016 Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Bill Clinton in Philadelphia, lies, New York primary, the Vatican 68 Comments
Good Morning!
Well, I’ve just about had it with the 2016 primary season. I’m thankful that the most no nonsense city in the country and the diversity it represents is voting next. It’s possible that both Democratic and Republican Primaries will be settled by the City that Never Sleeps and the rest of the Empire State. Bernie will continue to be hopelessly behind. Trump will inch closer to the magic number. The Atlantic seaboard will not be Cruz-friendly.
I’m going to start up with part time New Yorker Paul Krugman’s column today which adds a lot more to what BostonBoomer blogged about yesterday. He argues that Bernie Sanders has gone “over the edge” and I agree. Count me among the policy wonks in need of a neck brace after reading and listening to what passes as policy initiatives from the Sanders Campaign. The Bernie Manifesto is nothing more than a misinformed, mislabeled and supremely dated ideological rant. He’d probably fit in well with Angela Merkel’s party–if you really would like to pigeonhole him– which is Germany’s right of center party.
Also, count me as a yuggggge donor to whatever authentic Democrat primaries his damn ass for his Senate seat next time up. I’ve had it with him. His misinformed cult needs to quit defending him when he’s being indefensible.
From the beginning, many and probably most liberal policy wonks were skeptical about Bernie Sanders. On many major issues — including the signature issues of his campaign, especially financial reform — he seemed to go for easy slogans over hard thinking. And his political theory of change, his waving away of limits, seemed utterly unrealistic.
Some Sanders supporters responded angrily when these concerns were raised, immediately accusing anyone expressing doubts about their hero of being corrupt if not actually criminal. But intolerance and cultishness from some of a candidate’s supporters are one thing; what about the candidate himself?
Unfortunately, in the past few days the answer has become all too clear: Mr. Sanders is starting to sound like his worst followers. Bernie is becoming a Bernie Bro.
Let me illustrate the point about issues by talking about bank reform.
The easy slogan here is “Break up the big banks.” It’s obvious why this slogan is appealing from a political point of view: Wall Street supplies an excellent cast of villains. But were big banks really at the heart of the financial crisis, and would breaking them up protect us from future crises?
Many analysts concluded years ago that the answers to both questions were no. Predatory lending was largely carried out by smaller, non-Wall Street institutions like Countrywide Financial; the crisis itself was centered not on big banks but on “shadow banks” like Lehman Brothers that weren’t necessarily that big. And the financial reform that President Obama signed in 2010 made a real effort to address these problems. It could and should be made stronger, but pounding the table about big banks misses the point.
Yet going on about big banks is pretty much all Mr. Sanders has done. On the rare occasions on which he was asked for more detail, he didn’t seem to have anything more to offer. And this absence of substance beyond the slogans seems to be true of his positions across the board.
You could argue that policy details are unimportant as long as a politician has the right values and character. As it happens, I don’t agree. For one thing, a politician’s policy specifics are often a very important clue to his or her true character — I warned about George W. Bush’s mendacity back when most journalists were still portraying him as a bluff, honest fellow, because I actually looked at his tax proposals. For another, I consider a commitment to facing hard choices as opposed to taking the easy way out an important value in itself.
But in any case, the way Mr. Sanders is now campaigning raises serious character and values issues.
Serious character issues is right. I’ve listen to just about enough if his moralizing, creating one set of rules for himself and one set of rules for every one else, and his total disconnect from truthiness. Evidently in Sanders addled mind, telling a reporter that it’s up to the voters to decide if he’s qualified for the job is akin to saying he’s not. He doubled down on the nonsense today. He deserves the Bronx cheer that Cruz got while touring the city. Clinton has been baited by the press for two days straight to answer the question on Sanders qualifications after his disastrous NYDN interview. She’s skirted the question each time.
Sanders continued to blame Clinton for going on the attack and said he has simply been defending himself. And while he expressed regret for the tenor of the campaign over the previous 24 hours and said the acrimony will make it harder for Democrats to unite in the fall, he also said he does not regret his own statements.
“When somebody says that I am unqualified to be president and gives her reasoning,” Sanders said, “I think it is totally appropriate for me to respond as to why I think she may not be qualified as well. And that has to do with her views and her actions on a number of the major issues facing this country, and the way she’s run this campaign in terms of how she’s raised her money.”
Clinton had raised questions in a television interview about whether Sanders was prepared to be president, but she repeatedly stopped short of saying he was unqualified.
Some Democrats are worried about potentially longer-term fallout of an increasingly personal conflict between Sanders and Clinton. Most of those Democrats are Clinton supporters who view her eventual nomination as inevitable despite the drawn-out nomination battle with Sanders. And most blame him for the ugliness.
This is typical Bernie. He never absorbs new information that I can tell. Once he’s mind is made up on something–correct or incorrect–he appears to shut down. How on earth can anyone think that some one with that much of a closed, nonadaptive mind can be in an executive position where quick thinking on new information means life or death for large swaths of people at many points in time?
He’s totally uniformed about Banking and about Trade and those are his two signature issues. They’re his only freaking talking points and he sees no daylight between reality and the dark penances that reside only in his brain. Break up all big banks! Shutdown all trade agreements!
Now there’s this story. Sanders will leave New York to travel to–of all places--the Vatican where the world will be treated to a typical Bernie Rant/Lecture on “the moral economy”.
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) has been invited to the Vatican on how to create “a moral economy,” he announced Friday morning.
“I was moved by the invitation, which was just made public today,” Sanders said during an interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “I’m a big, big fan of the Pope. Obviously there are areas where we disagree on—women’s rights or gay rights—but he has played an unbelievable role, an unbelievable role of injecting a moral consequence into the economy.”
The Washington Post reported Sanders will head to Rome after his debate against Hillary Clinton on April 14. He is scheduled to speak at the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences.
If you think Sanders is radical, read Pope Francis on poverty, Sanders said.
“He’s trying to inject a sense of morality into how we do economics,” he said.
So, how many times have you ever heard of the Vatican or a Pope doing that kind of invitation to a gadfly Senator running for President while attacking the most likely future President? Yea, I didn’t think so. So, get this from the Vatican: “Sanders Accused of ‘Discourtesy’ in Seeking Vatican Invitation.”
A senior Vatican official accused Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders of showing a “monumental discourtesy” in his lobbying for an invitation to a church-sponsored conference on economic and environmental issues for political purposes.
Sanders, whose foreign policy experience is under attack by rival Hillary Clinton, on Friday said he was “very excited” about being invited to the meeting hosted by a pontifical academy. It will put him at the seat of the Roman Catholic Church just four days before the New York primary.
The head of the academy said Friday that Sanders sought the invitation and that put an inappropriate political cast on the gathering.
“Sanders made the first move, for the obvious reasons,” Margaret Archer, president of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the conference Sanders will attend, said in a telephone interview. “I think in a sense he may be going for the Catholic vote but this is not the Catholic vote and he should remember that and act accordingly — not that he will.”
Sanders’s travel to the Vatican following a debate with Clinton and just before the primary potentially injects into the Democratic nominating contest the agenda of Pope Francis, one of the most popular world leaders whose papacy is especially admired by the political progressives who play an outsized role in Democratic primaries. Archer’s response plays into criticism by Clinton of Sanders’s inexperience in diplomacy and dealing with foreign institutions, a central role of the U.S. president.
So, Bernie is now going to be an unwanted house guest who horned himself into an invitation. Not only will he be an unwanted house guest, he’ll be one that demanded a chance to finger wag at the world. Basically, the #Vatican now says #Bernie invited himself while Sanders says he was invited. They also characterized him as rude.
“Sanders cast a political shadow over a nonpolitical event by being pushy in requesting an invitation”
Only a huge ego with an overwhelming amount of gall can explain this kind of rude, ill-mannered and inconsiderate behavior. Who said that Trump was the only egomaniac in the race.
The only weirder event of the day was Bill Clinton’s exchange with BLM protesters in Philadelphia which came off directly opposed to Hillary’s position and will take tremendous ‘splaining. It seems his need to protect his legacy overwhelmed his concern for anything else including coming off as insensitive, racist and contrary to Hillary’s interests.
In a prolonged exchange Thursday afternoon, former President Bill Clinton forcefully defended his 1994 crime bill to Black Lives Matter protesters in the crowd at a Hillary Clinton campaign event.
He said the bill lowered the country’s crime rate, which benefited African-Americans, achieved bipartisan support, and diversified the police force. He then addressed a protester’s sign, saying:
“I don’t know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13-year-old kids hopped up on crack and sent them out onto the street to murder other African-American children,” Clinton said, addressing a protester who appeared to interrupt him repeatedly. “Maybe you thought they were good citizens …. You are defending the people who kill the lives you say matter. Tell the truth. You are defending the people who cause young people to go out and take guns.”
The Clintons have faced criticism from BLM activists and younger black voters for months now over that bill, which they say put an unfairly
high number of black Americans in prison for nonviolent offenses.
After a protester interrupted him repeatedly, Bill Clinton began to take on that critique directly, making the claim that his crime bill was being given a bad rap.
“Here’s what happened,” Clinton said. “Let’s just tell the whole story.”
“I had an assault weapons ban in it [the crime bill]. I had money for inner-city kids, for out of school activities. We had 110,000 police officers so we could keep people on the street, not in these military vehicles, and the police would look like the people they were policing. We did all that. And [Joe] Biden [then senator and chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee] said, you can’t pass this bill, the Republicans will kill it, if you don’t put more sentencing in it.”
“I talked to a lot of African-American groups,” Clinton continued. “They thought black lives matter. They said take this bill, because our kids are being shot in the street by gangs. We have 13-year-old kids planning their own funerals.”
Throughout the spirited defense of his policy, Clinton continued to be interrupted, and he repeatedly seemed to single out one protester.
“She doesn’t wanna hear any of that,” Clinton said to the protester. “You know what else she doesn’t want to hear? Because of that bill, we have a 25-year low in crime, a 33-year low in murder rate. And because of that and the background check law, we had a 46-year low in the deaths of people by gun violence, and who do you think those lives were? That mattered? Whose lives were saved that mattered?”
For several minutes, the discussion of the crime bill, Clinton’s exchange with the protester and the crowd’s attempts to yell and chant over her were missing one thing: any mention of Hillary Clinton, the one Clinton running for president this election cycle.
Bill Clinton did finally address her. “Hillary didn’t vote for that bill, because she wasn’t in the Senate,” Clinton said. “She was spending her time trying to get health care for poor kids [referencing her advocacy for the Children’s Health Insurance Program]. Who were they? And their lives mattered. And her opponent [Bernie Sanders] did vote for it. But I don’t blame him either … There were enough Republicans in the Senate to kill this bill, and nobody wanted it to die. That’s what happened.”
“But she [Hillary Clinton] was the first candidate, the first one to say let’s get these people who did nonviolent offenses out of prison,” Clinton continued. “And guess what? A lot of Republicans agreed. They know they made a mistake.”
Still, Clinton continued for some time defending his own administration. Twitter blew up over the situation and it will undoubtedly be a topic of conversation for a few days.
Did I mention I really want New York City to put this entire thing to bed? We’ll be live blogging the New York City debate.
Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders on Monday agreed to face off in a prime-time debate in Brooklyn, New York, on April 14, five days before the state’s crucial primary.
CNN’s Wolf Blitzer will host the presidential forum, scheduled for 9 to 11 p.m. Eastern time at the Duggal Greenhouse in the Brooklyn Navy Yard. The event will be CNN’s seventh time hosting a Republican or Democratic debate during this election cycle. The agreement put to rest days of public and private back-and-forth between the two campaigns about if and when a debate would take place before New Yorkers head to the polls April 19.
I promise I will have a huge Bronx Cheer for Bernie. I’m looking forward to him being hit on his undying love for gun manufacturers and his lack of knowledge on the actual workings of Dodd-Frank. Please New York! Send this man back to the most obscure part of Vermont possible. Join us!!!
One of the most interesting conspiracy theories I’m hearing discussed on TV is that the Republican establishment is getting behind Cruz because he can stop Donald from getting the magic number. They will then dump him unceremoniously by the second vote at the convention and turn to some one like Paul Ryan or possibly Mitt Romney. What are your thoughts on that?
What’s on your reading and blogging list today?
Here’s a soundtrack for your afternoon coffee!!
Quick update: there’s an re in the letter which means this invite was in response to a letter sent by BS.
Live Blog: Nothing Could be finer than to win in Carolina …
Posted: February 27, 2016 Filed under: 2016 elections, Live Blog | Tags: 2016 Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, South Carolina Democratic primary 118 CommentsThis evening we are following the returns from the Democratic Party voting in South Carolina. At stake are 53 delegates. This primary is the prelude to Super Tuesday. All look extremely promising for candidate Hillary Clinton. Polls close at 7 p.m. EST.
I’m getting this posted a bit early because I will be watching the returns with the Honorable Anthony Foxx–who is President Obama’s Secretary of Transportation— and members of the Krewe of Hillary. Members of the national campaign are beginning to join us here in Louisiana but Texas is the obviously big deal coming up. Our turn to vote is next Saturday. We’re also one of the expected blowout states.
Sanders is hitting two Super Tuesday states today: He was in Texas earlier and now he’s headed to Minnesota. As a Politico reporter has pointed out, he might miss the networks calling South Carolina. And if Sanders loses the state, Clinton could have to wait for a congratulatory call.
Black voters account for roughly six in 10 Democratic primary voters in preliminary exit polls reported by ABC New. That would would set a new record: the current record is 55 percent, set in 2008 as then-Sen. Barack Obama campaigned — against Clinton herself — to become his party’s first African American nominee.
Exit polls reported by ABC News also showed that a large majority of Democratic voters, fully seven in 10, wanted the next president to continue President Obama’s policies, rather than pursue a more liberal agenda. Sanders has called for a “political revolution” that would enact sweeping liberal policies — including universal, government-run health insurance — beyond what Obama has put in place.
And exit polls showed there had been no surge in young voters, a key part of Sanders’s voting base. In these early polls, younger voters’ current share of the vote in South Carolina was on pace to be the lowest yet in any Democratic primary contest this year.

Larrie Butler, a 90-year-old African-American man, was born in Calhoun County, South Carolina, at a time when the South was segregated during Jim Crow. He moved to Maryland after serving in the military and attending college, but returned to South Carolina in 2010. He got a voter-registration card and voted in the state in 2010.In 2011, South Carolina passed a strict new voter-ID law requiring a government-issued photo ID to cast a ballot. When Butler went to the DMV to switch his driver’s license from Maryland to South Carolina, he was told he needed a birth certificate to confirm his identity. But Butler was born at home, when there were few black hospitals, and never received a born certificate. When he went to the state Vital Records office to get a birth certificate, they said he needed to produce his Maryland driving records and high-school records from South Carolina. After he returned with that information, he was told he needed his elementary-school records, which Butler couldn’t produce because the school was closed. So instead he found his census record, which was not accepted because his first name in the census, Larry, did not exactly match the name he’d used for his entire life, Larrie. He was told to go to court and legally change his name at 85 years old, in order to obtain the birth certificate required to get a driver’s license in South Carolina and also be able to vote.
“It made me feel terrible,” Butler said.
This may be a rather short evening but we’ll see. Polls are open from 7 am to 7 pm. est. Here’s some exciting and good news! It’s also not surprising.
CNN says black turnout higher than 2008 – 6:25 p.m.
An exit poll conducted by CNN says 6 out of 10 voters in the South Carolina Democratic primary were black, up from 55 percent in 2008.
How that figure relates to voter turnout is unclear. In 2008, the electorate set a South Carolina record when 23.7 percent of registered voters turned out at the polls.
See the poll, which reveals a number of other details about the electorate, here.
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