Late Night Open Thread: Geraldo Visits #OccupyWallStreet

He was not welcomed with open arms, to put it mildly.


“Krugman’s Army” Open Thread

Photo from #OccupyWallStreet sent to Paul Krugman by a reader

Last week, Mayor Bloomberg was all over #Occupy Wall Street, claiming the protesters were trying to destroy the jobs of Wall Street Bankers and other denizens of Wall Street, and threatening that somehow the protests would cause NYC to be unable to pay municipal workers.

I guess one of his advisers must have told him it might not be a good idea to deny that people have a right to assemble in public and air their grievances, according to the U.S. Constitution, because now Bloomberg is singing another tune.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg said on Monday that he’ll allow the Wall Street protesters to stay indefinitely, provided they abide by the law, marking his strongest statement to date on the city’s willingness to let demonstrators occupy a park in Lower Manhattan.

“The bottom line is – people want to express themselves. And as long as they obey the laws, we’ll allow them to,” said Bloomberg as he prepared to march in the Columbus Day Parade on Fifth Avenue. “If they break the laws, then, we’re going to do what we’re supposed to do: enforce the laws.”

Bloomberg said he has “no idea” how much longer the Wall Street demonstration will last. “I think part of it has probably to do with the weather,” he said.

I think someone needs to send the Mayor a copy of the Constitution with the first amendment highlighted. He still thinks he gets to decide if American citizens can gather and protest on public property.

I wonder what Bloomberg will say about what the protesters plan to do next? From the New York Daily News:

The Occupy Wall Street protesters are planning to get in the face of some of New York’s richest tycoons on Tuesday.

A “Millionaires March” will visit the homes – or, more realistically, the gleaming marble lobbies – of five of the city’s wealthiest residents.

On the target list: NewsCorp CEO Rupert Murdoch, JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon, conservative billionaire David Koch, financier Howard Milstein and hedge fund mogul John Paulson.

Between 400 and 800 marchers plan to go to their homes to present them with oversize checks to dramatize how much less they will pay when New York State’s 2% tax on millionaires expires at the end of the year.

This is starting to get interesting. I admit I find the call and response routine of the protesters kind of annoying, but that’s OK. We annoyed a lot of old folks when we protested the Vietnam War too. Annoying old folks is one of the responsibilities of the young.

Meanwhile, in Boston, police are warning the protesters to go home or else:

Boston police were warning the more than 1,000 Occupy Boston protesters tonight that if they do not leave the Rose Kennedy Greenway and Dewey Square areas that authorities would move them out.

Police were visible around the areas in small batches tonight, while protest organizers held a meeting on the Greenway, answering questions from the demonstrators.

Occupy Boston, in a statement last night, answered the police warning by issuing a call “for any and all people to join the occupation as soon as possible.”

“From the beginning, occupiers have worked tirelessly to maintain a positive working relationship with city officials. Today’s threats by the Boston Police Department represent a sudden shift away from that dialogue,” the statement said.

The mayor’s office, however, has said the city will make no effort to clear the original Dewey Square tent city tonight, but police have said that if protesters do not leave the Greenway, the authorities would clear both the Greenway and Dewey Square.

Hmmmm…sounds like Mayor Menino is out of sync with the cops. Very interesting. Minx says the Atlanta police are itching to crack some heads too. The cops just never understand that when they attack protesters they only draw more attention to them and their grievances.


Ruthless Capitalism Open Thread

From News Hounds, where they watch Fox News so we don’t have to:

Here’s some of the transcript, also from News Hounds:

Regular panelist Gary B. Smith argued for ruthlessness. “Most of the great successes of this country – product wise, service wise – came from not only business people unfettered by the government but ruthless businesspeople.” He cited Thomas Edison, the Wright Brothers and Disney. Then, noting the success of our defense industry, he added, “Why? Because we have ruthless contractors out there that are coming up with this innovative product so they can make millions of dollars. It has nothing to do with government mandates.”

“More ruthless capitalism!” said brother Tobin Smith.

Guest Todd Schoenberger said this:

“Here was a man (Jobs) who was hungry. Here was a guy who actually grew up poor. He would have to take sodas to soda bottlers to take the deposit money to go feed himself. This was a guy that clearly, when he had a government out of the way, but he had to take that innovation because he was hungry. Edison, the Wright brothers, everybody that Gary B. was talking about, that’s because people are hungry. In America, people are not hungry anymore because the government is subsidizing them…that’s the problem.”

Wow! And they even left out the part about those Chinese torture chambers factories where they make the products that made Steve Jobs wealthy.


Sunday Night Stars

It’s a quiet Sunday for me even though I have a variety of friends and family out doing the football thing this weekend.  Doctor Daughter and her official now fiance–I’m going to be in for a Bollywood wedding in May so be prepared for a fish out of water story from me–and my sister and her husband went to the Nebraska-Washington football game yesterday,  U Dub brother in law was clearly outnumbered by our Nebraska degree bearing family.  Youngest Daughter was obsessed with LSU on Thursday.  The entire city is celebrating da Saints defeating da Bears. My dad’s just a football fan period and is known to root for skilled coaches and a good game period.  I’m the loner in the family who basically ready books through super bowls and every other game I’ve ever attended. It’s just one big yawn to me.  Wayyyyyy to slow for my tastes and watching people get severe injuries just ain’t my thing at all.

So, I’m going to do this open thread in rememberance of a country that used to be good at science, knowledge and technology before going down the bread and circuses road.

That’s a very old photo on the left that was taken today in 1977.  It’s got a fascinating story.

Here’s what our corner of the universe looks like to any incoming aliens — the Earth and. in the background, its only moon.

It’s a unique photograph because no one has ever been in a position to take it. Actually, it’s an old photograph newly released by NASA.

This photo was snapped by an outbound Voyager I back on Sept. 18, 1977.

NASA scientists ordered the craft to turn around and take it 34 years ago tomorrow, a last look at where the pioneering craft began its literally endless journey to the outer reaches of our solar system, which continues today. Both Voyager 1 and II are still in radio communication with NASA/JPL several times a week.

When today’s pic of the week was taken, Voyager I was 7,250,000 miles from Earth.

Today, it is right around 11,000,000,000 miles from Earth, a distance that’s grown by 1,000 miles while you read this. Track the Voyagers yourself right here.

So, it’s the Emmy awards too and I’m still gazing at that photo and those stars!  It’s an open thread!  Have fun!


Late Night Distractions

Jedi Kittens Strike Back: Much Better than the original movies

Jedi Mind Tricks

How many faces?

Jedi Orchestra:  Strike up the Band!

Okay, we needed an open thread. Right?