Monday Reads: WTF did Trump Voters do?

Good Morning Sky Dancers!

I’d like to continue to ignore the absolute breakdown of rule of law and sanity brought on by a group of outraged wypipo that just want their football and lives to be mired in some perverse black and white 50s sitcom, but it’s hard with headlines reading like an Orwellian Dystopia.

While Floridians and other survivors of hurricanes the last 2 seasons struggle to find water, food, and access to the things of basic civilization, T-Rump continues to golf at his various properties and travel to provide Hate Fest opportunities for aggrieved wypipo with random women leaders being targeted for the shouts of “lock her up”.  This kind of behavior would shame any sane person.  The word sane is the key idea here.

I’d like to say who are these people, but then it’s pretty obvious that I went to high school and university with a lot of them and used to sit in church pews surrounded by them. I’m not sure what wiring got crossed in their brains, but I don’t want to understand them, I want them to slink back under their rocks.

That pretty much sums it up.  KKKremlin Caligula just keeps showing himself to the world and about 20% of the population keeps acting like this is great and normal.  But then, most of them also believe in a literal garden of Eden and zombie Jesus born of a virgin when there’s absolutely no proof of any of that. It seems like everything done by Republicans encourages their psychotic breaks so the donor class gets to pillage the country of treasure and resources.  The VOX op ed piece is written by Matthew Yglesias.

President Trump trusts Kim Jong Un but not American climate scientists. He knows more about NATO than Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis. He thinks the European Union was created to take advantage of America on trade. And he isn’t sure whether or not Vladimir Putin is involved in assassinations.

In short, his sit-down interview with 60 Minutes’ Lesley Stahl revealed the president of the United States to be grossly dishonest, woefully ill-informed, and congenitally incapable of admitting error or demonstrating any kind of moral or intellectual growth.

He is, in other words, totally unfit for high office and fairly obviously so. Even more amazingly, despite Stahl covering an incredibly wide range of issues, she broke essentially no new ground. Every terrible, disqualifying thing he said was something he’s said before.

Donald Trump says a lot of things that aren’t true


That doesn’t include what’s going on with Saudi Arabia which is acting like an entitled Trump Voter with the actual ability to blackmail the country and its Placeholder in the Oval Office. Trump basically said that the murdered Saudi Journalists might have been killed by “rogue” killers and that the King said they didn’t do it. Oh, great!  It’s the believe a crazed dictator over all the evidence SNL skit redux!

For 45 years, it’s been considered out of bounds for Saudi Arabia. But all of a sudden, Riyadh made what many read as a veiled threat to use the kingdom’s oil wealth as a political weapon — something unheard of since the 1973 Arab embargo that triggered the first oil crisis.

Saudi Arabia, the world’s biggest oil exporter, said on Sunday it would retaliate against any punitive measures linked to the disappearance of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi with even “stronger ones.” In an implicit reference to the kingdom’s petroleum wealth, the statement noted the Saudi economy “has an influential and vital role in the global economy.”

Roger Diwan, a longstanding OPEC watcher at consultant IHS Markit Ltd., said the Saudi comments broke “an essential oil market taboo.”

While few think that Saudi Arabia is prepared to follow through, even the suggestion of using oil as a weapon undermines Riyadh’s long-standing effort to project itself as a force for economic stability. Jeffrey Currie, the head of commodities research at Goldman Sachs Inc., said Middle East tensions impacting the oil market have now “broadened to include Saudi Arabia.”

The images today should remind the older among us of the 1970s gas crisis.

In October 1972, a year before the U.S. oil crisis began, Atlantic author Steward Udall issued a warning, predicting a looming fuel shortageUdall, a former Secretary of the Interior for the Kennedy Administration, believed the auto industry was in an unsustainable growth pattern based on the folly that cheap gas prices would persist indefinitely. He saw American oil production reaching a plateau and worried about the stability of the Middle Eastern market:

Meanwhile, back to those “rogue killers” and the man who is totally shameless about spouting alternative facts.

President Donald Trump on Monday suggested that “rogue killers” may be responsible for the disappearance of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi, while also dispatching Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to meet with Saudi Arabia’s King Salman.

“We are going to leave nothing uncovered,” Trump told reporters on the South Lawn of the White House. “With that being said, the king firmly denied any knowledge of it. … I don’t want to get into his mind, but it sounded to me like maybe these could have been rogue killers, who knows? We’ll try getting to the bottom of it very soon. His was a flat denial.”

In case any one needs to be reminded, the Saudi Royal Family are not nice people and the attacks on 9/11 were instigated by Saudis.  And, why do we continually kiss up to brutal regimes?  Are we really still in bed with craven dictatorships?  Of course, we are!!!!

So there was Crown Prince Mohammad at an April soirée at Mr. Murdoch’s vineyard in Bel Air, Calif. Guests included the Walt Disney Company’s chairman, Robert A. Iger; the studio chief at Warner Bros., Kevin Tsujihara; and the actors Morgan Freeman and Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson, who overshared on Instagram that he was “blown away to be told about the level of love the Saudi people have for me.”

As the guest of honor at a Page Six-worthy dinner at the producer Brian Grazer’s Santa Monica home, the crown prince discussed Snapchat’s popularity in his kingdom with the Snap chief Evan Spiegel;Vice’s Shane Smith; Amazon’s chief — and Washington Post owner — Jeff Bezos and the agent-turned-mogul Ari Emanuel.

Mr. Emanuel, an organizer of the evening, had reason to celebrate: the Saudis planned a $400 million investment in Endeavor, his entertainment holding company. (In light of Mr. Khashoggi’s disappearance, Endeavor is reassessing the deal, according to a person with knowledge of Mr. Emanuel’s thinking, who shared it only on condition of anonymity.)

Vanity Fair noted at the time that the festivities were not marred by talk of civilian deaths in Yemen from Saudi-led airstrikes; the crown prince’s “anti-corruption” move to imprison scores of Saudi businessmen, including the owners of Saudi television networks and key rivals, at the Riyadh Ritz-Carlton; or the five-year prison sentence the Saudi royal court handed the journalist Saleh al-Shehi for criticizing the government.

The embrace between the American establishment and the leader known as M.B.S. was set to continue in Riyadh later this month at a business conference hosted by Crown Prince Mohammed. The sponsors, partners and participants of the conference — known informally as “Davos In The Desert” — included a number of media companies: CNBC, The New York Times, Bloomberg, The Los Angeles Times, The Financial Times, The Economist, CNN and Fox Business Network.

With the exception of Fox, which is reviewing its participation, all of those organizations pulled out as the Khashoggi story climbed most-viewed article lists and drew cable coverage. The story’s popularity was helped along by its thriller-like qualities, which included the allegation that the journalist’s body was dismembered with the aid of a bone saw before it was removed from the consulate.

So much for that little fairy tale happy ending. But one still wonders why the Bible Belt continues to lose its license to smug righteousness with its unholy alliance with D’oh Hair Furor?   I don’t usually quote Maggie Habberman because I think she’s basically an overpaid gossip columnist but here we go. Why don’t the unhinged hatefests that are happening quite a few times a week turn off people who say they believe in the biblical Jesus?  I mean really?  Where in the bible does Jesus say “lock her up”?

Sharon Hurd didn’t know that President Trump had used the phrase “dumb Southerner” to describe his attorney general, but hearing it didn’t bother her.

“We’re ready for somebody to be that outspoken, because he seems to be getting the job done,” said Ms. Hurd, 73, a retiree who once owned a restaurant and a gift shop, standing on a street corner about an hour after Mr. Trump’s rally ended here this month. “He doesn’t try to take his words and make them please everybody, and I think that Southern people are noticing that.”

Few things have appeared to test the bond between Mr. Trump and the South, a political coupling of a thrice-married New Yorker and voters in the Bible Belt that seemed unlikely from the start. The president’s swing this month through deep-red Tennessee and Mississippi, where he basked in the warmth of supporters at political rallies, confirmed that despite the scandals and chaos that have churned out of the White House, their relationship endures.

“It is ironic that the warrior that they have found is a billionaire from New York, but he really speaks their language fluidly,” said Henry Barbour, a Republican National Committee member and party strategist based in Mississippi.

“I don’t think it’s about any specific set of policy positions, but it’s about somebody being a warrior for folks,” he said.

The relationship offers Mr. Trump benefits as well. In Johnson City, Tenn., and in Southaven, Miss., this month, Mr. Trump was far removed from bruising headlines about the special counsel investigation into possible campaign collusion with Russia, his personal finances or allegations of affairs.

And although Mr. Trump often paints a rosy, and sometimes distorted, picture of his support, his descriptions of mutual love with his voters match reality in parts of the South — particularly outside cities and suburbs. In his 2016 victory, he won every Southern state but Virginia. In Tennessee, public polling shows his approval rating is close to 60 percent, far greater than his national average.

I don’t get it and I’m not sure why continually writing about these people does much good for any of us other warn us that there are zombies living among us.  Oh, and then there’s this little shit show coming to my streets this week.  These walking specimens of human excrement have already terrorized the streets of NYC and Portland this week.  We’re not happy to be hosting them.

Newly released video reportedly shows the moment members of the far-right group the “Proud Boys” attacked anti-fascist protesters.

Dozens of protesters gathered outside the Metropolitan Republican Club on New York City’s Upper East Side Friday night, where Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes was scheduled to give a speech.

As the event was letting out, some of the attendees allegedly assaulted some of the so-called “Antifa” protesters.

Here’s from the Portland event.

Far-right groups Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer,clashed with anti-fascist protesters in Portland, Ore. on Saturday night.

Patriot Prayer, an Oregon-based group, was holding a rally in downtown Portland yesterday; after several hours of clashes, video footage shows, an antifa protester sprays one of the far-right group members with pepper spray, setting off further violence.

The incident appears to have taken place outside Kelly’s Olympian bar and follows similar violence at the hands of Proud Boys on Friday night in New York City. According to Twitter user @itsmikebivins, the violence in Portland was “way worse” than the violence in New York.

“Right-wingers were clubbing people with clubs,” @itsmikebivins continued. Portland police confirmed that the incident was part of violence that occurred between the groups throughout the day, and involved “hard-knuckled gloves, firearms, batons and knives.”

These idiots are like a cross between Clock Work Orange’s “droogies” and freaking NAZI Brownshirts with a dash of KKK thrown in, but hey, it’s liberals that are angry mobs!

Anyway, I will stay home and away from the TV news as much as possible.  My safe zone is the actual horror movies being shown on SYFY this month instead of the horror reality show that has overtaken our country.

Be excellent to each other.  Oh, and Elizabeth Warren does have Native American Heritage but I don’t want to play in to the all the American Indian Lore that’s floating around this story.   The only question to me is will Trump pony up the million to her chosen charity and will every one just go out and vote already!!!!

What’s on your reading and blogging list today?





36 Comments on “Monday Reads: WTF did Trump Voters do?”

  1. dakinikat says:

    • bostonboomer says:

      WTF? DNA is junk science? Warren went to one of the top DNA scientists in the country for the analysis.

      • NW Luna says:

        DNA isn’t junk science, but the DNA ancestry tests are only roughly accurate, and only as good as the samples in their database. An individual can get different results from different DNA analysis companies (I read a recent story on this and will hunt for the link). I’ve no doubt that Bustamente’s analysis is carefully done, but there are limits. From the article referenced in the post:

        The generational range based on the ancestor that the report identified suggests she’s between 1/64th and 1/1,024th Native American.

        1/64th is not impressive, and 1/1024 is a miniscule amount. That being said, I think Trump’s talk about Warren’s ancestry is him thinking he can belittle her, as he tries to with any woman and especially strong powerful women.

      • quixote says:

        This is my field in biology (delimitation of biological groups, such as species, and using DNA as one of the tools to that end).

        Imagine a murmuration of starlings. They’re visibly one flock. They also have identifiable “arms.” There’s overlap. In evolutionary time, instead of the seconds it takes a flock, extensions of the group, splits, or bunches can form.

        A species would be an actual split with no reamalgamation. Part of the flock goes over the Rockies and starts a new evolutionary trajectory.

        An arm that maintains itself for a long time is like a race. There’s increasing overlap toward the center, you can’t draw any clear lines to delimit it, but the outliers are easy to see as somewhat different from other outliers and from the bunch in the center. They could all reamalgamate any time with no difficulty.

        There are DNA markers associated with different parts of the murmuration of humans. We by no means know all of them. Different DNA-ancestry companies probe different parts of the total DNA, so they come up with more or less different results. If you sequenced the entire genome, you would not come up with different results. It’s a sampling issue.

        Now, add to all that that the most distantly related people on earth are approximately each other’s 60th cousins. We *all* have bits and pieces of DNA from all sorts of corners of the earth. I’m part-Russian, so my DNA would share more sequences with Mongolians that most people of European background. Does that make me Mongolian? Yes, partly. *Very* partly.

        Onward to Elizabeth Warren. Her roots are in Oklahoma which has one of the highest concentrations of American Indians of any place in the US. It’s one of the *likeliest* places for non-Amerindians to find some Amerindian genetics in their background.

        Now, if I remember the original nonsense on this, Warren was talking about her family’s lore about a Cherokee(?) great-(great?)-grandma. The Dump took the occasion to ridicule the whole thing and to say she was just trying to get special treatment at Harvard.

        What the DNA *does* show is that she did have American Indian ancestry. A lot? No. Enough to have an ancestor in the mists of time? Yes.

        All the BS about Oh-she’s-not-really-Cherokee is irrelevant. It would be relevant if she was trying to get tribal membership or affirmative action. She is not. She was talking about family memories, and her family memories were right.

        The Orange Garbage Pile owes her a million dollars.

  2. dakinikat says:

    Plaquemines deputy tied to far-right group Proud Boys has been fired by sheriff’s office

  3. dakinikat says:

    well, that question got answered quickly and as we expected …

  4. dakinikat says:

    • Enheduanna says:

      Is it wrong for me to enjoy how annoyed he gets with certain criticisms? He is absolutely stuck mentally and emotionally at an immature age. His base as well.

      • quixote says:

        I don’t know. My mother, were she alive, might beg to differ. But I swear, I was more mature and compassionate when I was effin learning to *walk* than that waste of space has been in his entire life.

        He’s stuck in subhumanity, not immaturity.

    • NW Luna says:

      Anyone who has to insist he’s not a baby is most certainly acting like a baby.

  5. Sweet Sue says:

    Great post, Dak, thanks. I think Trump might be the death of me.

    • dakinikat says:

      I’ve never had this level of anxiety. It’s like suddenly being thrown to wolves.

      • bostonboomer says:

        I’ve reached the breaking point. I can’t watch anything on MSNBC anymore except Rachel and Lawrence, and sometimes I even have to turn Lawrence off. Maybe it will get more bearable after the election. I hope so. I guess we can hope that Mueller will indict some people after Nov. 6.

        • NW Luna says:

          I’m so glad I do not have a TV. News articles online or in print all too often show his disgusting face in its typical sneer, pout, or tantrum mode. I cover the photo over with my hand while I read the text below, or else I scroll quick as possible to get past it. I rarely listen to news on the radio but if his despicable voice comes on I turn the radio off instantly.

  6. Enheduanna says:

    Excellent post as always. I remember the gas crisis in the late 70s well. We lost Carter thanks to it – in part. {sniff}

  7. NW Luna says:

    Re: DNA testing

    Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. issued the following statement Monday in response to Senator Elizabeth Warren’s DNA test claiming Native Heritage: A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship.

    ” Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America,” Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. said. “Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”

    • dakinikat says:

      I knew this discussion would come. It’s central to Tribal politics, position, and identity. I hope Warren hasn’t accidently opened a distraction. Not sure why she did it right now. Tribes have been inundated with folks trying to get claims to things like profits from casinos or mineral rights. I’m more worried about voting access in ND because of lack of road names right no for acceptable voter ID but I’m aware that any one with some drop of native blood tries to access tribal funds and resource and land rights.

      • NW Luna says:

        I agree. Obviously, showing Trump as a liar is appealing, but we already know he’s a liar. I think Warren inadvisably let her desire to slam Trump’s lies down his throat get in the way of working on more important issues. It’s plainly voter suppression to not take certain addresses. Or be denied ability to vote because a clerk mis-spelled an “unusual” name because it wasn’t something like Smith or Jones.

        • NW Luna says:

      • quixote says:

        I left a book-length comment above about the uses of DNA to determine relationships of groups. (Memberships in groups is a different problem and is about drawing lines.) As I say, since this is my professional field, the discussions about this make me start spluttering but-but-but.

        Short form: American Indian DNA shows she did have (an?) American Indian ancestor. It’s entirely up to the Cherokee Nation what constitutes membership in the tribe. But as far as I know, she never said she was a member. She talked about having some Cherokee background. Which she clearly does.

        • quixote says:

          And just to be totally clear, you’re absolutely right that getting people’s votes counted in North Dakota is a real issue. Fixing Dump’s lack of understanding about absolutely everything is a waste of time.

        • NW Luna says:

          She talked about having some Cherokee background. Which she clearly does.

          Thanks for your explanation above and further up-thread. I beg to differ on one small point. Based on her test, she has some indigenous ancestry. Based on family stories it’s probably Cherokee but not certain as the DNA tests can’t discriminate between Cherokee and say, Quechua.

          • quixote says:

            Yes, that’s what I was saying. The chances that in OK she’d have Quechua ancenstry rather than the local largest Indian tribe are smallish, no? I say American Indian throughout, and used “Cherokee” in that one instance without a qualifying phrase like “highest probability.” Bit of eyerolling here, Luna!

          • NW Luna says:

            The “clearly does” threw me off. I’ve liked arguing about things like “clearly does” vs. “probably does” since I was old enough to talk. *good-natured laughing face*

  8. NW Luna says:

  9. roofingbird says:

    The Cherokee have their own issues of membership to contend with, regarding blood quantum, slavery, and the the trail of tears mash up. The mythology around membership to this tribe is pretty great, as was noted in my own family, by my son in law’s mother, who swore she was part Cherokee. DNA revealed otherwise. No one ever claims they are part Miwok or Kickapoo. Those folks just got smashed. Cherokee are imeshed in the sands of “heroic struggle”.