Tuesday Reads: Trump Trashes 80 Year Tradition and Other News

The First U.S, National Scout Jamboree was held in 1937 on the ground of the National Mall in Washington, D.C. Here the boys are around the Washington Mounument on the morning of July 4th for religious services. Later there was a fire works display, a tradition on the Mall for Independence Day.

Good Morning!!

My father was an Eagle Scout, and in 1937 he attended the first National Scout Jamboree in Washington DC. Whatever you may think of today’s boy scout movement, becoming an Eagle Scout is extremely challenging and an achievement to be proud of, in my humble opinion.

The national Scout jamboree is a gathering, or jamboree, of thousands of members of the Boy Scouts of America, usually held every four years and organized by the National Council of the Boy Scouts of America. Referred to as “the Jamboree”, “Jambo”, or NSJ, Scouts from all over the nation and world have the opportunity to attend. They are considered to be one of several unique experiences that the Boy Scouts of America offers. The first jamboree was scheduled to be held in 1935 in Washington, D.C. to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Scouting, but was delayed two years after being cancelled due to a polio outbreak. The 1937 jamboree in Washington attracted 25,000 Scouts, who camped around the Washington Monument and Tidal Basin. The event was covered extensively by national media and attended by President Franklin D. Roosevelt….

The first national jamboree was held in Washington, D.C. for ten days in July 1937, attended by 25,000 Scouts, most of whom arrived by train. Region campsites were set up around the Washington Monument and Tidal Basin. The event was covered extensively by radio and newspapers. A press tent accommodated 626 news media reporters, photographers, and broadcasters. Sixty-four news releases were issued and the BSA assisted in the making of 11 newsreels and 53 magazine articles.

The three major U.S. radio networks of the time, NBCCBS, and Mutual, had broadcasting studios near the jamboree headquarters to produce almost 19 hours of live, on-site jamboree coverage broadcast coast-to-coast. Celebrities also visited the jamboree, including well-known broadcaster Lowell Thomas and U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt. While at the jamboree, Scouts also attended a three-game baseball series between the Washington Senators and the Boston Red Sox at Griffith Stadium, as well as toured nearby Mount Vernon.

President Franklin Roosevelt was a long-time, strong supporter of the scouting movement.

In 1915, FDR was the young assistant secretary of the Navy when Chief Scout Executive James E. West solicited his support of the five-year-old Boy Scouts of America. West asked FDR to serve as a member of the Special Committee on Nautical Scouting.

In 1921, shortly after agreeing to become more active in New York City Scouting, FDR was disabled by polio, losing the use of his legs. During his effort to regain his health and mobility in the years that followed, his involvement in Scouting grew. His political activities also increased, and during the 1920’s he became a prominent national figure.

FDR played a major role in the effort to obtain a permanent camp for New York City Scouts, and in 1927, he was one of a group credited with opening Ten Mile River Scout Camps.

He enjoyed visiting the camp even as governor of New York. In August 1930, during a ceremony at camp, FDR was presented the Silver Buffalo Award, the BSA’s highest national honor for service to youth. During another visit three years later, he was inducted into the Order of the Arrow and posed for photographs proudly wearing his OA sash.

President Franklin D. Roosevelt at the fi.rst National Boy Scout Jamboree in 1937

Boy Scouts of America is not a partisan organization, despite some recent fumbles over gay rights. But yesterday “president” Trump trashed one more American institution with his foul, corrupt behavior.

The Washington Post: Trump’s Boy Scouts speech broke with 80 years of presidential tradition.

For 80 years, American presidents have been speaking to the National Scout Jamboree, a gathering of tens of thousands of youngsters from around the world eager to absorb the ideas of service, citizenship and global diplomacy.

In keeping with the Scouts’ traditions, all eight presidents and surrogates who have represented them have stayed far, far away from partisan politics.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt used the occasion to talk about good citizenship. Harry S. Truman extolled fellowship: “When you work and live together, and exchange ideas around the campfire, you get to know what the other fellow is like,” he said.

President Dwight D. Eisenhower invoked the “bonds of common purpose and common ideals.” And President George H.W. Bush spoke of “serving others.”

Donald Trump wasn’t a boy scout and he couldn’t possibly care less about American traditions.

For a brief moment at this year’s jamboree in West Virgina, President Donald Trump indicated that he would follow that tradition — sort of.

“Who the hell wants to speak about politics when I’m in front of the Boy Scouts?” he said.

Then, standing before all 40,000 of them, he bragged about the “record” crowd size, bashed President Barack Obama, criticized the “fake media” and trashed Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. In the lengthy 35-minute speech, the president threatened to fire his health and human services secretary if he couldn’t persuade members of Congress to vote for the Republican health-care bill.

At one point, he told a rambling story about a conversation he had at a New York cocktail party with a once-successful home builder who “lost his momentum.” The lesson, apparently: “You have to know whether or not you continue to have the momentum. And if you don’t have it, that’s okay.”

Click on the WaPo link to read more history about presidents and the Boy Scout Jamboree.

Hitler Youth

Trump is a monster without a single shred of human decency. We need Special Counsel Robert Mueller and Congress to force him into retirement before he destroys every proud American institution and tradition. Honestly, when I heard about this disgusting speech yesterday, I felt sick at heart. I wondered if Trump is hoping to enlist young people in a modern day Hitler Youth.

The Kansas City Star: Outraged Boy Scouts call on organization to disavow Trump speech.

Sitting presidents have come to give a nonpartisan speech at the Boy Scouts National Jamboree since 1937. President Donald Trump came to give a speech – but many say he still broke the tradition in a “nauseating” way.

During the 35-minute speech Monday night to about 40,000 scouts in West Virginia, Trump threatened to fire Secretary of Health Tom Price if the Senate did not approve repealing and replacing Obamacare, railed against journalists and “fake news,” talked about getting invited to parties with Hollywood celebrities, sought praise for his election victory and bashed Hillary Clinton and former President Barack Obama.

“We won and won. So when they said, there is no way to victory, there is no way to 270. I went to Maine four times because it’s one vote, and we won,” Trump said. “But we won – one vote. I went there because I kept hearing we’re at 269. But then Wisconsin came in. Many, many years – Michigan came in.” [….]

And while Boy Scouts in the crowd cheered and applauded during Trump’s speech, long-standing Boy Scouts were not pleased. One Eagle Scout who attended the National Jamboree in 1989 took to Twitter to talk about his family’s history within the organization – he said his grandfather was a scoutmaster for 40 years and awarded a silver beaver, while his father was also an Eagle Scout and attended the National Jamboree in 1957 – and criticize Trump’s speech. He said his son, a star scout on his way to becoming an Eagle Scout, had wanted to attend this year’s Jamboree.

Read the rest at the link.

Hitler Youth uniform

Sorry to take up so much space with this, but I truly believe Trump’s behavior yesterday is an important example of how he is tearing down everything that has made America “great” so that he can turn our beloved country into a wholly owned subsidiary of the Trump Russia coalition.

In other news, Jared Kushner went back to Capital Hill this morning; and Paul Manafort has been subpoenaed by the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Politico: Kushner, Manafort providing information to congressional investigators Tuesday.

Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort were both set on Tuesday to provide congressional investigators with information about the heavily scrutinized meeting with a Russian lawyer they attended last year as advisers to President Donald Trump’s campaign.

Kushner, Trump’s senior adviser and son-in-law, was scheduled to testify before the House Intelligence Committee in a closed session on Tuesday. He took questions from Senate Intelligence Committee members on Monday and, according to prepared remarks he made public, told them he did “not collude” in Russia’s suspected attempts to interfere in the 2016 presidential campaign.

Manafort spoke to investigators after reaching an agreement with the Senate Intelligence Committee to avoid a subpoena, though a separate committee has issued a subpoena compelling his testimony. He finished a meeting with the Senate panel on Tuesday morning and “answered their questions fully,” spokesman Jason Maloni said.

The Guardian: Senate issues subpoena to Paul Manafort for testimony on Russia.

The Senate judiciary committee has issued a subpoena to Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign manager, seeking his testimony at a public hearing on Wednesday.

The Republican senator Chuck Grassley and the Democratic senator Dianne Feinstein said they were unable to reach an agreement with Manafort for a voluntary transcribed interview with the committee.

The two said that late Monday night they issued a subpoena to compel Manafort’s participation in Wednesday’s hearing.

The committee wanted Manafort to testify on enforcement of the Foreign Agents Registration Act and Russia’s attempts to influence US elections.

Trump is continuing to torture Attorney General Jeff Sessions with public comments and tweets.

The Washington Post: Trump leaves Sessions twisting in the wind while berating him publicly

President Trump and his advisers are privately discussing the possibility of replacing Attorney General Jeff Sessions, and some confidants are floating prospects who could take his place were he to resign or be fired, according to people familiar with the talks.

Members of Trump’s circle, including White House officials, have increasingly raised the question among themselves in recent days as the president has continued to vent his frustration with the attorney general, the people said.

Replacing Sessions is viewed by some Trump associates as potentially being part of a strategy to fire special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and end his investigation of whether the Trump campaign coordinated with the Kremlin to influence the 2016 election, according to the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to comment publicly.

Three more related stories to check out:

CNN: Trump slams Sessions, rips DOJ in Twitter outburst.

McClatchy: Trump messes with Sessions, and Senate Republicans are not pleased.

Axios: Trump in phone call: “What would happen if I fired Sessions?”

Finally, there is supposedly going to be a vote on consideration of the Senate heath care clusterf*ck sometime today.

Business Insider: The Senate will vote to start its repeal of Obamacare in a few hours — and the process is still in chaos.

On Monday night, Sen. John McCain said he would return to Washington to vote on key issues — most notably, on the Senate’s push to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act.

The dramatic return of McCain, a week after announcing his diagnosis of brain cancer, seems to indicate that Tuesday’s vote on the Senate healthcare push is extremely close for Republican leaders.

At the same time, though, no one is quite sure of what they’re pushing for.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said on the Senate floor on Monday that there would be a vote on a motion to proceed with the House healthcare bill, the first step in a likely multiday process of debate and dealmaking in an attempt to come through on the long-held Republican promise of repealing the law, also known as Obamacare.

The question is whether McConnell’s plan is to bring up the Better Care Reconciliation Act, the bill to repeal and replace the law; the Obamacare Repeal Reconciliation Act, the bill to repeal now and replace later; or some modified version of either.

More at the link.

So . . . what stories are you following today?


110 Comments on “Tuesday Reads: Trump Trashes 80 Year Tradition and Other News”

  1. Pat Johnson says:

    I go back and forth concerning Trump: is he mentally ill or just plain stupid. His speeches and interviews always come down to talking about himself incessantly. His words and actions illustrate that he is both crazy and ignorant at the same time.

    But I have also come to another conclusion altogether. This is a man who has no cultural reference. He doesn’t read or absorb content. He is unfamiliar with how government works. He has no interest in other countries. He is an empty vessel overall.

    He is unable to carry on a conversation so he dominates and interrupts by forcing the topic back onto himself. People who knew him in his “partying” days all attest to inability to engage in “small talk” unless it focused on him.

    So no surprise that he would revert to his incredible lack of attention span by addressing the Boy
    Scout Jamboree with a speech that was all about him. He has nothing in common with a group
    of teens that he was there to inspire. They merely represented a “crowd” to him so he marched
    out his customary bullshit that pleases him.

    He is an anomaly in his role. Completely self involved which underscores his unpreparedness to face any group setting since he has nothing to offer beyond his own self aggrandizement.

    • dakinikat says:

      All of the Trumps appear to have been raised in Skinner boxes designed to produce selfish sociopaths. I’ve never seen so many people so unaware of how to be civilized in my life.

      • NW Luna says:

        They are all pathologically narcissistic! The rules don’t apply to them — that’s how they’ve lived their whole lives. Now they are surprised, annoyed and outraged that they are subject to the same standards as are the little people who work in their factories and build their buildings.

  2. dakinikat says:

    I can’t believe that that organization didn’t realize putting that man in front of children to speak would be a major disaster. Some man on their board should’ve suggested the forego the tradition knowing that everything TRUMP is is exactly what the Boy Scouts are supposed to ensure their Scouts don’t become. I expect them to do more than release some generic, it’s tradition, we don’t endorse things, etc. I would pull my young son out of the organization immediately if they don’t condemn what he said and did in front of all those children. I would hope that people still involved with that group would threaten to walk with their kids and money.

    • janicen says:

      I agree. I’m shocked that they even agreed to allow him to speak. They should have just left Trump out of it and invited some other leaders to speak.

      • bostonboomer says:

        They’ve released a statement now saying the organization is non-partisan and the invite to the prez is traditional. I don’t think that’s good enough.

    • dakinikat says:

      I’m not a Cizilla fan but this is a good list of the argle bargle and obscenities and hate speech ….
      http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/25/politics/donald-trump-boy-scouts-speech/index.html

    • Enheduanna says:

      It would be hard to pull your kid out if he was on the verge of obtaining Eagle status or had invested years in it. Parents should absolutely condemn the speech and the invitation in the first place. You have to wonder about a board that would invite a “pussy-grabber” to speak to young boys.

      P.S. Years ago I almost killed myself and my two dogs on an Eagle Scout Trail near here – lol. I had no idea how hard it was and we had no alternative but to finish it to get back.

  3. bostonboomer says:

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    • dakinikat says:

      “Some of you here tonight might even have camped out in this yard when Mike was the governor of Indiana, but the scouting was very, very important.”

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    • palhart says:

      If you click on statnews.com, you’ll find that a book, “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President”, will be published in October.Their consensus review is that Trump is dangerously mentally ill and, therefore, is a danger to the nation and our mental health.

      I’ve known the dangers just didn’t have the creds to write a book.

    • Enheduanna says:

      Maybe when he sees all the free psychiatric analysis he will realize how he’s going down in history and resign?
      Yeah, right.

  5. janicen says:

    No need to apologize for focusing on this disaster at the Jamboree, bb. Like you said, it’s representative of his entire presidency. He’s destroying all that makes our country great. I just can’t wait for it to be over.

    • Enheduanna says:

      LOL – This is great. I also loved Luna’s “thank you – not you Bernie” post from yesterday.

      I’m seeing some awakenings lately in comments even in Bernie-infested places like C&L. Me thinks Bernie is wearing out his welcome.

    • Fannie says:

      Thank you Bernie, and Jill, for giving us third world politics.

  6. bostonboomer says:

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  7. NW Luna says:

    Many people have pointed out the connections between parts of Trump’s “speech” to the BSA and with Hitler Youth.

  8. NW Luna says:

    Senators on hot mic: Trump is ‘crazy,’ ‘I’m worried’

    At the end of a Senate subcommittee hearing on Tuesday morning, Chairman Susan Collins (R-Maine) didn’t switch off her microphone. Apparently speaking to Sen. Jack Reed (R.I.), the ranking Democrat of the committee, Collins discussed the federal budget — and President Trump’s lack of familiarity with the details of governing.

    “I swear, [the Office of Management and Budget] just went through and whenever there was ‘grant,’ they just X it out,” Collins says. “With no measurement, no thinking about it, no metrics, no nothing. It’s just incredibly irresponsible.”

    “Yes,” Reed replies. “I think — I think he’s crazy,” apparently referring to the president. “I mean, I don’t say that lightly and as a kind of a goofy guy.”

    “I’m worried,” Collins replies.

    In a more salacious [sic] part of what was recorded, Collins then addressed a radio interview in which Rep. Blake Farenthold (R-Tex.) suggested that if Collins were a man, he’d have challenged her to a duel for opposing the Senate Republicans’ Obamacare overhaul bill.

    “Did you see the one who challenged me to a duel?” Collins asks.

    “I know,” Reed replies. “Trust me. Do you know why he challenged you to a duel? ‘Cause you could beat the s— out of him.”

    “Well, he’s huge,” Collins replies. “And he — I don’t mean to be unkind, but he’s so unattractive it’s unbelievable.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/07/25/senators-on-hot-mic-trump-is-crazy-im-worried/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_hot-mic-1250pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.76abcaa6aed2

  9. palhart says:

    Rachel Maddow recently discussed the Sinclair Broadcast Group’s deal with Tribune Media to buy dozens of local tv stations, moving towards a monopoly of conservative viewpoints on broadcast, not cable, stations. The FCC president,Ajit Pai, Trump appointee, and his commission has reinstated a loophole which blocked a single corporation owning more than 39% of tv stations. Sinclair is already the largest owner of the nation’s tv stations, but, if the $3.9B deal gets regulatory approval, it would potentially have 7 out 10 Americans in audience. Boris Epshteyn is Sinclair’s Chief Political Analyst.

    • palhart says:

      (Having trouble this afternoon) reinstated the loophole that allows monopolization of tv ownership, actually.

      • NW Luna says:

        That, and revoking net neutrality. The fat cats are having a good time; the rest of us not so much. One of the local stations here is owned by Sinclair, and occasionally the local programming clashes with Sinclair’s. I suspect the local editorial posts will be swallowed up soon.

    • Fannie says:

      Oh yeah, Sinclair group has been trying to get wavers from FCC to remove all the limits on stations they can own. They are already at the 40% mark. They are definitely a far right wing group, and Boris is working as a Red Agent for Putin and Trump. Getting a green light on propaganda.

  10. palhart says:

    The USA now forming is not a democracy and is becoming unbound to the Constitution by the day. Call it USA, Inc., or a Russian satellite nation.

  11. NW Luna says:

    What could possibly go wrong?

    Her dilemma: Do I let my employer microchip me?

    Melissa Timmins has a week to decide: Does she keep her hand to herself, or does she let her employer microchip it?

    The implant is the size of a grain of rice. It would slip under the skin between her forefinger and thumb. It would sting for only a second. Then she could unlock doors or log onto her computer with a wave. Her flesh could hold her credit card, her medical records, her passport . . .

    “At first, I thought it was a joke,” she said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/25/her-dilemma-do-i-let-my-employer-microchip-me/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories-2_wb-microchip-920am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.9caff6a1b9bb

    • Enheduanna says:

      Wow. No way – DON’T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Fannie says:

        You would have to be completely out of your mind to let them do this. Wisconsin is so full of bullshitt, you know damn well the abuse will horrific. We see it in cows, pets, and now they want to sell it like a smart phone. NO thanks.

      • ANonOMouse says:

        They’ll have to lock me up and knock me out to put a chip in me. That’s a bridge too far.

  12. dakinikat says:

    We are so fucked ..

    Senate Republicans have decided to go it alone down a path of pain for millions of Americans and destruction of their futures by voting to move forward on a plan to take healthcare away from millions of Americans, and with one great move, Democrats made sure that Trump and the GOP own it.

    • dakinikat says:

      Senate Republicans have decided to go it alone down a path of pain for millions of Americans and destruction of their futures by voting to move forward on a plan to take healthcare away from millions of Americans, and with one great move, Democrats made sure that Trump and the GOP own it.

      Swing votes Capito, Heller, and Portman all voted to move forward with debate.

      Republican Senators Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski voted no.

      Democrats would not vote until after all Republicans had voted, just to make sure that all of America knows who is responsible for this.

      John McCain flew in on a private jet, while battling brain cancer, just so he could vote to take healthcare away from other people:

    • NW Luna says:

      Yeah. I was just coming here to post this too. Whatever the fuck they do — skinny repeal, repeal w/out replace, any form of R replace — it’s going to be bad.

      And Mccain votes to rob others of their healthcare.

      Senate Republican leaders secured the votes they needed on Tuesday afternoon to begin debating health-care legislation in a dramatic reversal of fortune for their beleaguered health-care effort. This puts one step closer to actually repealing-and-replacing the Affordable Care Act, though there is still a long way to go.

      The turnaround for the beleaguered health-care effort came after senators such as Sens. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.), Rand Paul (Ky.) and Dean Heller (R-Nev.) said they would support launching debate on the bill.

      Now, senators will begin a lengthy and freewheeling debate on passage of legislation that would make significant changes to Obamacare and are expected to vote sometime over the next couple of days on a straight repeal bill, the Senate GOP plan, and a “skinny repeal” measure that would make fewer changes to existing law. It’s unclear if any of those options will succeed.

      Early Tuesday afternoon, several senators who were previously opposed to moving ahead with the health-care debate announced they had changed their minds and would now support a key procedural motion to consider legislation.

      They included GOP Sens. Shelley Moore Capito (W.Va.) and Sen. Dean Heller (Nev.), who both have registered concerns about Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-Ky.) plan to rewrite the ACA. They were helped by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who entered the chamber to cast a “yes” vote after an absence due to his recent diagnosis from brain cancer.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/gop-leaders-press-ahead-with-health-care-vote-in-hopes-of-sustaining-repeal-effort/2017/07/25/2525470c-7126-11e7-8839-ec48ec4cae25_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_healthcare-735a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.de2c32285d82

      • NW Luna says:

      • Earlynerd says:

        During one of my phone calls this week, I asked the guy in Sen. Tillis’s office to think of how Tillis would have felt if he’d been billed at full, uninsured rates for his hospital visit after his collapse while jogging recently. Or if that visit had not been available at all.

        There was a thoughtful pause, and a subdued promise to let the Senator know my concerns. It was the only time I heard anyone in the two Republican senators offices here sound un-chipper and unscripted.

        • palhart says:

          I’ll blow my NC cover and not leave you dangling. With Tillis, Burr, and Pittenger, I’ve felt up against a brick wall. All dug in right wingers. I’ll never forget that Tillis beat Kay Hagan.

          However, I’m glad you’re out there trying to melt his ice heart. He was one of 22 Senators to write Trump to leave the Paris Agreement. He’s a bad-ass.

          Keep calling.

      • quixote says:

        ““skinny repeal” measure that would make fewer changes to existing law.”

        What’s not front and center there is that those few changes are to remove the requirement for healthy people to buy insurance (the “mandate”) and for employers to pay for (part of?) employees’ insurance under Obamacare.

        I.e. take the money out of Ocare. Act 2: say it’s bankrupt.

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  16. ANonOMouse says:

    Don’t forget the people who voted for him

    To every berniebot, every Independent, every weepy Democrat who thought it was better not to vote or to vote for Johnson or Stein (also co-opted by Russia) or even to vote for Trump than to vote for Hillary, because EMAILS, Fuck you all!!!!

    • Fannie says:

      You certainly speak for me. The fucking White House Mafia are spreading the Red Agents all over this country.

    • NW Luna says:

      Oh, yesssss. Though 1 out of 3 is stupider than the other 2.

    • palhart says:

      Agreed. I remember in early 2009 Obama voters commenting at our blog about their regret of not voting for Hillary. Look where we are 8 years later. I don’t go too far into my wish that Obama had waited and run in 2016. There could have been a shoring up during her 2 terms of young, progressive candidates.

      Now the door has been blasted open for a mad dash to authoritarian rule. Are they taking money out of the country yet? Shooting opponents in the street? Suppressing free speech, right to assemble, justice?

      You critical/thinking impaired plunged all of us into this snake pit. We’re on the cusp with this healthcare debate and the possibility of Sessions being replaced over the August break.

      • NW Luna says:

        Remember how quickly we grew tired of saying “We told you so”? A slightly younger group did the same damn thing in Nov 2016, but this time it was far more obvious and with far worse consequences.

  17. ANonOMouse says:

    And to all of you on Medicare. If they repeal Obamacare it will seriously affect your Medicare coverage and end up costing you many more out of pocket dollars. Those of us who were on Medicare before it was enhanced by Obamacare can attest to that. Also, those of you who have Medicare supplements, prepare yourself for the cost of those plans to skyrocket, especially if you have a chronic condition that requires regular ongoing treatment. My vision is being spared by monthly injections that cost over 5k a month, Without the Supplement my out of pocket cost would be in excess of $500 a month. Soon it will be both eyes which will be 10k a month billed to Medicare or $1000 a month out of pocket. Few people can afford this sort of treatment without a Medicare supplement plan and certainly only the richest could afford this without health insurance or bad health insurance. Without these treatments I will go blind quickly. Believe me when I tell you I’m not afraid to go blind, but I don’t want to go blind because I can’t afford to save my vision. If/When I go blind I want it to be because there was no way to save it. There are millions of people like me who are receiving some sort of life saving, vision saving treatment that will be immediately impacted by the repeal of the ACA. This is an ALL HANDS ON DECK MOMENT. FIGHT GODDAMN IT!!!!!!

    • Fannie says:

      We are all better off to help save you and all Americans. We can do that.

    • palhart says:

      I am on Medicare and will read more about the cuts and payment increases. With my social work background, I have concentrated my worry on the Medicaid recipients in nursing homes, other sick elderly and adults, and children. Unnecessary deaths will occur if the poor, sick, dependent, young, elderly are pushed out of their required care by those who can afford extra taxes, but don’t give a damn. And please don’t call yourselves Christians.

      • NW Luna says:

        Medicare — and Social Security — make a huge difference in most people’s lives. But to the rich — nah, not much diff. There are a few wealthy people who care about the rest of us (Hillary as a foremost example) but most don’t.

        How they can take refuge in a religion started by someone who said “help the poor and the sick” and “sooner will a camel go through the eye of a needle than a rich man enter heaven” I’ll never understand. Oh yeah, I can quote scripture too, but it’s the parts those greedhead scammers forgot about.

        • ANonOMouse says:

          The Medicaid rolls were expanded by the ACA, not only to people under 65 who were covered by the Medicaid expansion, but also post 65 year olds who were eligible for Medicare premium assistance, paid for by Medicaid funds and coverage under Medicaid with no premium, no deductible. Also many post 65 year olds qualified for Premium free Part D coverage and Extra Help paying for RX costs.

          Also the ACA provided coverage for yearly mammography no cost, colonoscopy no cost and yearly wellness visit without having to reach the Medicare deductible. This is a great help to many low income seniors who don’t qualify for assistance. All of that goes away with the repeal of the ACA.

      • palhart says:

        The Americans in the Senate chambers are shouting “Kill the bill, not us!” And “Shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame!” They’re begging for their lives…tears provoking. Republicans don’t care about the poor, sick, and elderly. They might not know a poor person or their additional problems; they should get a job or an additional job, while not providing a living wage, or health insurance.

    • Sweet Sue says:

      Jeez, Mouse.

      • ANonOMouse says:

        I’m good Sue…….I’m a tough old girl and not afraid of being blind, but know there are millions of people who have a lot worse circumstances than I have so we must FIGHT!!!

    • janicen says:

      Hugs Mouse.

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  19. palhart says:

    The first of this year, my 73 year-old cousin lost all muscle strength, could not even get out of bed on her own, much less do anything else for herself. Tests were run and the doctors believed the weakness was due to statins. Very rare reaction, it seems, because the pool of victims is so tiny that she can’t sue. Her 24-hour home care for 3 months cost $500 a day, $15,000 a month.
    She could finance her care for a few months. Her doctors gave her fusion treatments and happily she needs much less assistance, if any.

    The prevailing medical conclusion is that, if preventions or cures aren’t found, Alzheimer’s is going to take the healthcare system and economy down, on what timetable, I do not know.

    • NW Luna says:

      That sounds awful! Glad your cousin got better and hope that weakness continues to resolve. Something like that could happen to any one of us. We don’t know in advance. That’s why we need healthcare. The Repugs just want the money for tax cuts for the already rich.

    • Enheduanna says:

      I had what I believe is a bad reaction to statins as well. Within a couple of months of beginning them, I developed serious aches primarily in my arms and finally what turned out to be “frozen shoulder” – for which there is no real cure. The pain in my upper arms was so bad I couldn’t sleep at night. I finally ditched the statins and the pain went away but I still have frozen shoulder.

      They don’t test statins on women. Take them at your own peril.

  20. NW Luna says:

    Back to the first topic in BB’s post — Lots of other people are disgusted by the POTUS* speech.

  21. NW Luna says:

    Our side has better humor:

  22. bostonboomer says:

    You guys are the greatest. I just read through all the comments, and I’m fired up, ready to go.

  23. bostonboomer says:

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  24. NW Luna says:

  25. NW Luna says:

    State race, but encouraging!

  26. Enheduanna says:

    I got this from Hullabaloo:

    (hope it shows up) If not here is the link:

    http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2017/07/people-are-stepping-up-people.html

    People are really stepping up to run for Democratic offices.

    • quixote says:

      Not to be Debbie Downer or anything, but whether this is good or not depends on how many are running for the same seat. The last thing we need is five challengers and one Repub incumbent. The Democrats need to *coordinate*. But I seem to remember Will Rogers had something to say on that topic. 😦

  27. cheekos says:

    Where we might view the Jamboree as American Boy Scouts, Donald sees nothing, but loyal “Young Pioneers!”

  28. NW Luna says:

  29. NW Luna says:

    Even the WSJ acknowledges Trump is acting like a dictator.

    Mr. Trump’s suggestion that his Attorney General prosecute his defeated opponent is the kind of crude political retribution one expects in Erdogan’s Turkey or Duterte’s Philippines.

    https://www.wsj.com/article_email/trumps-sessions-abuse-1501026895-lMyQjAxMTA3NTIwNjYyMjY4Wj/