Live Blog: New York’s Primary Democratic Candidate Debate (CNN PLEASE stop this now!)
Posted: April 14, 2016 Filed under: 2016 elections, Live Blog | Tags: Bernie Sanders, Brookyn, Democratic Primary Debate, Hillary Clinton, Wolf Blitzer 184 Comments
Good Evening and welcome to the HooDoo that I do so well to get this to be the last of these things!!!
Tonight’s debate will be broadcast by CNN at 9 pm EST from Brooklyn. It’s the Brooklyn Finger Wagger vs. the C-Town Policy Wonk! How nasty will the pokes and punches get?
… with the Democratic race dragging on into the spring, fresh tensions are bubbling up to the surface.Pointing to issues like Clinton’s ties to Wall Street and her vote for the Iraq War, Sanders said over the weekend that when it comes to Clinton’s judgment, “something is clearly lacking.” The senator also went on to tell CNN’s Jake Tapper that he found Clinton’s recent remarks about young voters — in which she said they sometimes buy into incorrect information and “don’t do their own research” — to be “a little bit condescending.”Things grew even more heated when the Sanders campaign put out a press release questioning Clinton’s credibility this week — an attack that was met with ferocious pushback.“Let’s be very clear. This is a character attack. This is exactly what @BernieSanders pledged to his supporters that he wouldn’t do, ” tweeted Nick Merrill, Clinton’s traveling press secretary.
The primary will be Tuesday, April 19th and the last poll shows the momentum is in Clinton’s column. Here are this weeks latest polls via RCP. Notice the all have Clinton way way way up!!!
Thursday, April 14
Race/Topic(Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination FOX News Clinton 48, Sanders 46 Clinton +2 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination CBS News Clinton 50, Sanders 44 Clinton +6 New York Democratic Presidential Primary NBC 4 NY/WSJ/Marist Clinton 57, Sanders 40 Clinton +17
Wednesday, April 13
Race/Topic(Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread New York Democratic Presidential Primary Siena Clinton 52, Sanders 42 Clinton +10 Maryland Democratic Presidential Primary NBC 4/Marist Clinton 58, Sanders 36 Clinton +22
Tuesday, April 12
Race/Topic(Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread New York Democratic Presidential Primary Quinnipiac Clinton 53, Sanders 40 Clinton +13 New York Democratic Presidential Primary NY1/Baruch Clinton 50, Sanders 37 Clinton +13 New York Democratic Presidential Primary PPP (D) Clinton 51, Sanders 40 Clinton +11 Connecticut Democratic Presidential Primary Emerson Clinton 49, Sanders 43 Clinton +6
Monday, April 11
Race/Topic(Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread New York Democratic Presidential Primary NBC/WSJ/Marist Clinton 55, Sanders 41 Clinton +14 New York Democratic Presidential Primary Monmouth Clinton 51, Sanders 39 Clinton +12
Sunday, April 10
Race/Topic(Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread New York Democratic Presidential Primary FOX News Clinton 53, Sanders 37 Clinton +16 Pennsylvania Democratic Presidential Primary FOX News Clinton 49, Sanders 38 Clinton +11
Wonkette even agrees with me. Please let this be the last one!!!! I can’t take his stump speech any more. I can’t take the finger wagging. I can’t take watching Hillary try to act dignified during all of this!!!
I also can’t take any more of Wolf Blitzer!
But, here I am and here we are.
WHOA HEY it’s been a minute since we’ve had one of these debate-styley things! But things have been getting super UGLY in the Democratic race, so they need to do this again, obviously. Bernie was like “I CHALLENGE YOU TO A DUEL ON ANY OF THE FOLLOWING DATES!” and Hillary was like “I CHALLENGE YOU TO A DUEL ON A DIFFERENT DAY WHEN YOU ALREADY HAVE A THING, COME AT ME, BRO!” Seriously, that is how it happened, according to Politico. Anyway, they all moved their hair appointments around on their Google calendars, so they can debate in New York City tonight.
So, this one is going to have a lot of stuff thrown at Bernie, I guarantee. First, there’s the “corporate whore” kerfuffle. Then there’s the law suit against Bernie’s Buddies in Gun Manufacturing by the parents and relatives of Sandy Hook Elementary School Victims. Then, there’s the comment today about how Martin Luther King was a class warrior instead of all that racism stuff in his speeches and the marches and all that. Then there’s Bernie and Jane’s taxes which we never See, Jane, See.
So, I’m sure all that will be on the agenda tonight.
Meanwhile, I just bought some wine and I’m hunkered in here!
Hang in there! If the polls are right, the Atlantic Seaboard is about to deliver us from any more of these “debates”. Meanwhile, I have the next little doll all lined up!!! So stay tuned …
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Interesting article in a Catholic publication about Bernie’s trip to Rome and what it all means.
https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/blog/what-does-sanders-invitation-say-about-vatican-and-sanders
….which was already very much in doubt. No, I take that back — do doubt whatsoever. Not Qualified.
No class, definitely not qualified to play nice with global citizens
The Whores of the House is here, with distinguished medals from the honorable: Susan B. Anthony, Alice Paul, Rosa Parks, Sojurn Truth, Margaret Sanger, Shirley Chisholm, and the Idaho Whores of 1977 who ratified the ERA, and Sally Ride, and Lucy Stone, and Lucretia Mott, and the first woman who was arrested for being a whore, and National Woman’s Party, and Emily Blackwell, the first female doctor whore born in 1826.
Les we forget, Eleanor Roosevelt, and the first woman fire fighter, and first woman police officer, and the National Organization for women!
Here we are!
I’ve switched my twitter handle to “Dances with Whores”.
I’m here too, hanging out with my SkyDancerWhores!
Yup…that’s us!
Love.
How can anyone take his candidacy seriously?
Hordes for Hillary! Luv that Dances with Whores!
Thank you so much for live-blogging. I can’t stand to actually watch. Five minutes of predebate coverage and I wanted to kill Wolf. He interviewed idiot Ben Jealous for like 5 hours, and let Jealous go on and on about how The Pope has invited Bernie to the Vatican. Wolf didn’t say anything at all.
Why do they need the national anthem before a debate? i don’t even get why they do it at sporting events.
Bernie’s opening statement is nuts!
Here he is the 27 dollar man.
Blah blah blah
Thank God for this blog and all my fabulous Sky Dancers without whom I could not get through this torture alone.
Your comments and support for our Hillary keeps me sane.
Thanks to all of you from the bottom of my twisted little heart!
Blows kisses to Pat
There he goes again! The lack of judgement schtick! But here comes Hillary- in your face Bern! She is sticking it to him. The audience is really behind her!
I want to take that finger of his and shove it up his butt!
Ahahahaha!
The finger wagging is already driving me nuts.
I would love to slap him just for fun.
Yeah. He started clutching the podium and that didn’t last.
Oh dear- a big Bronx cheer for Bern 🙂
Bernie: you are guilty of a crime, and we are going to leave it up to you to sentence yourself. WTF?
Bernie has trouble answering Dana’s questions!
Then sarcastically mocks Hillary. But she’s handling him TAX RETURNS in your face Bern.
Whoa! He is “reaching” tonight.
On low wifi signal,,, I can sorta watch or sorta blog, but not both, see ya later.
Come back later on to tell us what you think!
CNN, lets me hear part on one question, then poops out on me..I think it’s the preview set up. So, I won’t have much to think, I afraid.
Look the fucker keeps saying how simple and boring his taxes are, well damn $27 dollar man release the entire Turbo Taxes.
I have a hard time separating him from Larry ,David.
Larry’s the smart one.
Chuckle
He’s a millionaire …
Bad ploy, there. He’s begging the “what do you have to hide then?” question.
Don’t candidates have to release their tax returns for 2 (3) previous years? Seems to be a no-brainer
Good for her, she has to over talk him.
What you know Bernie, you can’t even bring Vermont up to $15 dollars, why is that Mr. $27 dollar man?
I said the same thing to a Berniebot at my caucus.
She said “But that’s the state of Vermont. Bernie can’t do anything about his state.”
“Exactly.” I retorted.
Blind, I tell ya, my whoresister, they are blind.
It’s always something that never involves mentioning Republicans fighting it tooth and nail.
Hillary is spot on with Bernie being a part of the NRA! Here, let me say I am so so very sorry for the lost of those babies in Sandy Hook. I have gone to bed, and I have heard those babies wailing and crying, and as a parent, I am so so sorry for your lost, and for the actions he took in support of NRA.
I can’t watch. Thank you for being here.
I’ll tell you what else fucker, you ever hear of the super predators by the name of Juan Corona? How about the Zodiac killer, how about the fucker Bundy? This term was applied to the M13, to the Aryan Brotherhood, to the Crips, and the Bloods, and horrific crimes committed mostly by white men into serial murdering.
Right on Fannie! It was NEVER a rasict descriptor.
Ted Bundy, Ridgeway (Green River killer) in the NW, both with ?40…60? who knows how many lost to them. Both white.
Incarcerations — Bernie is short on specifics again on how he’ll fix “mass incarceration.” “Leadership” and “working with states.” How’s that going to work in the Red states?
This is wild! I haven’t been able to comment because there has been constant yelling. Bernie is really slugging down the water. His mouth must be really dry.
The finger wagging is awful, but I’m really getting sick of Bernie trying to tell Hillary what she thinks!
She’s hitting him back. Calling him a liar now with the big oil things.
Sec Clinton, what are Bernie’s lies?
(ZOMG, where should she start?!)
Sets record straight on contributions from individuals vs companies.
Discusses legislative record.
Bernie goes off on generalities and the problem.
Clinton worked with India & China when SOS to bring them to the table. Agreement in Paris. Sanders attacked the agreement. Accomplishment to bring all those countries together.
Sanders interrupts, moderator fucker tells him to continue.
What the hell Bernie, the lobbyist for climate change gives money to both sides! Stop acting like it’s just HILLARY………………..oh shit, now her he goes about fracking while she was SOS.
Opps………here HE goes.
Can I despise Bernie Sanders any more after listening to him shout and point that effing finger? No, I do not think my disgust at him can go any lower.
I hear you Delphyne
Ah, Hillary brings up Republicans blocking the way. Realistic about what can be done. Hillary supports Obama’s record “against great odds.”
“Easy to diagnose, harder to fix the problem.”
Hillary is absolutely right about the pressures of Russia and coal energy!
She has the super plan for green energy, and Bernie just won’t allow her to take those steps with President Obama.
This fracking conversation is interesting
OMG Here comes the next lecture…..groan
Lol
Sanders thinks that talking about how much of a crisis we’re in answers the question of how to fix the energy problem.
Bernie must think that Mitch McConnell will either retire or have an epiphany if he is elected.
He’ll wag his finger at the Republicans and make them go away.
Tongue hanging out.
Mister $27 dollar man, who would you appoint to the Federal Regulatory Commission?
Damn she’s good. Facts on policy, her specific accomplishments as SOS. No hesitation. She gesticulates, but no arrogant finger wagging.
Getting Libya to hold 2 democratic elections is “the same mindset” which led to the Iraq War???
Oooohooo! Sets Bernie straight on his own record on the Libya direction!
Fuck him! “Just repeating the same thing doesn’t make it true.” That’s what he does time and time again!! I’d love to duct tape his finger to his mouth for the rest of this debate.
Sets the record straight that the SOS works for the President.
So what Bernie is saying is that somebody should have had a crystal ball to look at when it came to Lybia.
They should have asked the Bern- he who knows all…..
Clinton: 47 oil lobbyists x $2700 = $126,800, total contributions, 145,412,149 = oil =.087%. Sanders $27 x 10 =2700/ $139,810,841 donations = 51,782 minimum possible donors as opposed to donations. or about the number of folks who voted in Madison. Oh, the fun
of counting this stuff up.
“That’s How It Works.”
Bernie goes off on tangents without answering the questions.
Hey Mister man, you are wrong, we do not pay 75% to NATO. We pay 22%. Please get your shit together $27 dollar man.
How are you any different from Trump on NATO, Sen Sanders?
Hillary speaks without the shouting that Bernie does.
Bernie is nothing but “an old scold”.
We spend 1% of our defense budget on NATO, Bernie might want to know something else, we spend a hell of a lot more on defense contractor fraud here, as in Northrup Grumann.
Why doesn’t he use his left hand to finger-wag too?
He is not that talented.
Hee hee hee
I had a nun once who would have slapped his waving finger with a ruler!
Sanders rolls his eyes and shrugs when Hillary says “Let me finish.”
Oh, he’s got a helluva lot of gall to say that she evaded the question. Bernie’s Mr. Rant instead of answering the question.
Bernie wants the US to help broker agreements. She did that as SOS, ya idiot!
Jeebus Fuck, Bernie, she does not think Netanyahoo (sp, sorry) is always right.
Hey Mister Man, you didn’t even show up to give a fucking speech at AIPAC
And if you’re speaking to Israel and those supporting Israeli interests, you are going to focus on what Israel should do.
He didn’t even listen to what she said. That could sum up so many male responses.
It is hugely revealing to watch each one’s expressions as the other talks. Bernie acts like a kid in junior high. Hillary is professional. WIsh I had her patience!
I had to stop watching because my laptop kept freezing, but I’m enjoying reading your comments. Also laughing knowing Bernie has to get on a plane and fly to Rome right after the debate.
Serves him right!
I am so sick of his belittling, dismissive facial features when Hillary is speaking! He reminds me of the Donald’s debate demeanor.
They have a lot in common besides their disdain and contempt for women.
Oh, now he disagrees with economists. And goes on with diagnoses, and no specifics on his plans.
Ooooh, reminds us about Hillarycare way back when.
Uh oh the Bern is getting red in the face…
Roofing, I’ve got this:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/14/politics/democratic-debate-new-york-live-updates/index.html?sr=sl041416debatelivestreamsmartlink
on my laptop I’m watching.
Oh ‘eff you, Bernie, are you allergic to specifics.
All you say is “We can do it.” “Kids soundn’t be in debt after college.” No details!
Reminds him again about her long history of work in healthcare.
Bastard moderator cut her off when she talks about women’s issues & Soc Sec.
Lol
All he wants to do is argue and find fault.
Vigorous agreement—go Hillary
Bernie pinches his nose when Hillary talks about women’s issues & Soc Sec. I want to punch him in the nose.
His ‘bots need to be punched too.
She is so Presidential!
Bernie is a joke.
She won’t contradict the President. Won’t engage in hypothetical situations.
Hillary: “There is something called Congress”
LOL
I LOVE YOU HILLARY!
“We’ve had 9 debates and I’ve never had a question about Roe V Wade, the law of the land.”
“Sen Sanders thought it was a distraction”
And that’s when she won the nomination.
😀
Bernie will take on the Governors. (How, just how, Bernie?)
He’s pro-choice, and then goes off on gay rights. (anything to get off women’s rights, huh?)
He’s having trouble staying on topic.
He can’t stay in reality.
And always member Hillary is our “superprepared warrior realist”!!!!! Whores for Hillary!
Yeas!!!
I am a whore for Hillary! She brought up women’s issues. And of course the Bern has to trot out his lecture….
Is he a Democrat?
“Why would I be running in the Dem Party?” Goes off on polls & INdependents…..
“Sen. Sanders, You haven’t raised anything for Democratic party” says moderator.
Blathers on about young people in party. Need to open the door to them he says.
Well who is shutting it?
$27, $27, WallStreet, WallStreet.
Hillary: You have to look at the facts.
(and she doesn’t shout)
Reminds Bernie she has more votes than him.
& more than Donald.
(heehee)
Doesn’t he ever smile?
Hey Mister Man, you don’t have a fucking prayer to win the nomination!
Sanders: “I think we’ll win this nomination”
Deep South is conservative, Hillary won those he says, but we win caucuses. (do I hear a dog whistle about the South?)
Yes. More like a dog siren. Might as well call her a lover of low info (read: Stupid) black people. I am officially disgusted now. He is courting the Trump voter. No thanks. Not my coalition.
OMG he dissing southern states again
Damn he hit the South again! Wtf is his issue ?
He’s a sore loser. He likes young (male) whites.
Hillary: I have pledged delegates, more than between Barak and I in ’08.
We won Southern states and (then lists central & northern states)
Talks about diversity, party unit.
Bernie keeps frowning. “Younger, younger, younger….Establishment, Wall Street”
Your record’s stuck, Berner.
BS is in a dead end. Can’t go any further than where he is.
Hey Bernie, just how conservative are the African-American and Latino/a voters in the South?
Maybe those southern Dem voters know the difference between your record and Hillary’s. Ya think?
If Dem, they are not. They are black and brown. In Bernie world they don’t matter & should be grateful for what those who “know better” graciously bestow upon their poor, ignorant, incapacitated selves.
Can you tell I’m spitting mad?
I made a new cocktail tonight, I’m calling it the “(southern) Democratic Corporate Whore. I think I need to have second one.
Okay whores, what it is? There’s be 9 debates, and Hillary has called on CNN and Fox, and MSNBC to talk about the issues of women’s rights, and Roe Vs. Wade…………tonight she brought it up because they refuse to do so. Bernie is never asked the question.
Will it come up in the summary, that HILLARY and her voters are nothing but the best whores in the world?
We are the BESTEST whores in the world!
Yes we ARE!
Putting out the Bern
Bernie “Big money, Wall Street” …… promises free stuff without specifics. Yells, wags finger.
Scowls. Scowls harder.
Hillary: Thanks NY for making her Senator, reelecting her.
Reviews what “we” did after 9/11. (Sanders says “I”; Hillary uses “we” far more often.)
Been fighting against economic barriers most of her adult life.
Also have racial barriers, other barriers.
Hillary: Work together, not just make promises that can’t keep, have plans and take action.
Bernie watches and scowls harder.
I think I knew they wouldn’t bring up the Dr. Paul Song and the Bernie Pigs.
Hillary’s too classy. Bernie’s relieved, but won’t quit scowling.
Firmly believe every word you said NW Luna.
How can anyone listen to both of them and not fall in love with Hillary? I just fell in love with her all over again. 😀
No “Whoregate” question? What a surprise.
I’m so goddamned tired of the Media pretending that Hillary Clinton isn’t head and shoulders above all other candidates.
Well fellow whores, this grandma is heading for bed…thanks for great open blog! G’nite
Nite! Sweet dreams!
I have to admit, that I had the hardest time listening to Bernie tonight than ever before. I believe that he doesn’t have a plan, and I think it’s because my heart, and my mind has been telling me that he is not one of us. He doesn’t respect us whores, and everything he works toward is for the betterment of the brogans. He has had a lot of time to check himself, to fine out about women, and people of color, and how to deal with that set of problems. He has had the opportunity to learn, and he rejects the imprints being made by not just his supporters, but by the republicans, who have been painting a false picture of Hillary Clinton. You can’t work with just white people, you got to work with and socialize with each of us.
I’m trying to get that memory of him pinching his nose twice when Hillary begin talking about women’s issues.
Another Whore For Hillary, I just suffered through the whole thing. Thanks, Skydancers, for being here throughout.
I did think it was the least biased network broadcast I’ve seen yet, even with Wolfie. Major kudos to New York Daily News for putting the broadcast media to shame. (Of course I’m muting any pre or post debate commentary). I thought there was not so much of the softball questions to Clinton’s opponent, hardball questions to her that has the hallmark of the networks from 2008 on.
But now it’s now post-debate and BS is being given ultra-face-time, so what do I know? Muted, but the crawler at the bottom says, in caps “SANDER’S REACTION TO DEBATE”, then regurgitating all his non-working talking points.
Of -course- those are news item in themselves. Of course.
Questions seemed fairly even.
Except for the male moderator cutting off Hillary when she brought up women’s issues.
Arrgh, meant to say “that has been the hallmark”.
Agree, NWLuna, the questions did seem pretty even handed this time (unlike the myriad times in the previous network debates).
I missed the mod cutting her off about women’s issues. Was that at the end? I hope she spoke right over him!
I think it was when she starting talking about women’s issues and Social Security. I bet she was going to explain her plan to give Soc Sec credit to caregivers who have to reduce or quit outside jobs to caregive at home for a relative/loved one.
I did miss that. I saw her bring it up but must have been reading the laptop when they cut her off.
It’s an extremely important point. Even if someone does not have kids themselves, 99% (or something like that) of Americans do, and women end up taking the financial hit to care for them. It’s what lets corporations pretend all their employees are swingin, child-free singles and keep reaping the profits for that illusion – because women take up the slack. Women pay for it in real time by reduced wages, unpaid work at home, unpaid maternity leave, and job opportunities lost to the “mommy track” and later on, for the remainder of their years, in reduced income from Social Security.
Big applause to Hills for bringing it into the spotlight!
It seemed to me the moderators cut her off repeatedly. Especially when she was talking about substance. Did anyone else notice that? I do think she was in excellent form and showed that she IS the “super prepared warrior realist”.
Ha!
Babama, I saw them *try*.
Like BS, she just kept right on going, finishing her point. Fire with fire.
My hands hurt from clapping for Hillary.
Mine too!
Hillary has a plan to give Soc Security credit to caregivers for their unpaid labor, when they have to reduce outside work hours or quite work to care for relative/loved one at home. Of course, that’s mainly a women’s issue, since women are the main family caregivers. Even daughters-in-law provide care for their parents-in-law more than sons do for their own parents.
First time evah a candidate has preached that……….Bernie said she been saying the same thing for decades!
Dear Bernard:
Once again, in tonight’s debate, you have proved that you know absolutely nothing about anything. So on the orders of our Supreme Leader, Hillary Rodham Clinton, we’re putting out the bern once and for all.
Sincerely,
WhoreMouse
Bernie is a Millionaire …is that the reason he doesn’t release his tax returns?
absolutely – what would those Berniebots think- OMG!
TY………..luv you whores.
Been fun here in the whorehouse tonight. Thank you whores!
OK, whores, I’m going to forget about politics for a while. ‘Nite all.
Goodnight you shameless hussy!!!
Thank you all!! I loved reading your comments.
Belated thanks for a wonderful job. She was strong. Bernie finally wiped the smile off his face when talking about gun control. Looking forward to a time when I don’t have to listen to Bernie’s pontificating. Looking forward to the time when Hillary leads the way to solutions for America!
This will break your heart….kids explain why women are payed less than men.
The brainwashing starts young, doesn’t it? The kid who said “The world’s a messed-up place” gets it.
🙂
https://twitter.com/Brian8473
Sorry about the twitter link above, it isn’t the right one. I am trying to share Hillary’s Epic Statement About Women’s rights that she made at the debate last night. I thought that comment was her best comment of this entire election.
Is this the one, Mouse?
That’s the one Delph. Thank you for posting it. I love that speech!!!
Classic Hillary!
Just got home. I was staying at someone else’s house last night so I couldn’t join the live blog here. I missed the first hour of the debate so I missed some of the good parts when she kicked his ass on gun control but I did watch the rest of it and I thought it was the best debate I’d ever seen. I thought Bernie was at his best. He never seemed to get rattled and he fired volley after volley at Hillary and she responded magnificently. He would slam a serve at her and she would take the ball, dissect it into 6 or 7 pieces, and fire each and every piece back at him even harder.
I thought the debate highlighted their differences, basically that he’s is long on rhetoric and aspirations and she is the detail wonk. There were times watching that debate that I was waving my arms and cheering at Hillary’s responses. If my knee were any good, I would have jumped out of my chair. I think Bernie did his best but he could not knock her off her game. I’m glad I watched.