Good Afternoon!
It took me awhile today to get going so I’m a little later on this than usual. Miles snuck outside for a big adventure late last night and I got rather clawed up trying to bring him back in. He’s a total love bug and not usually like that but he drew blood and it was not fun. Today, he’s back to his genial self but sometimes when his blood sugar gets a little out of whack from the diabetes he can get mighty testy about things. My animals are not outdoor animals so I freak when any of them gets loose. My left hand is pretty shredded up and bruised so using a keyboard is not very comfortable for me and sleeping was difficult last night. So, any way blame this late, short post on feisty old Miles. He’s got me sleepy and cranky today.
I really enjoyed Paul Krugman’s blog today on the Pastrami Principle. I could tell from the comments that a lot of Bernie supporters were bristling at the comparison between Bernie’s continual discounting of Southern Democratic Primary voters to that kind of description that comes from also-ran right wing populist Sarah Palin and her choice for President for 2016, Donald Trump.
As Krugman points out, Sanders is trying to make an argument for Super Delegates to discount the popular vote which shows Clinton way ahead. He is doing this on the back of Southern Democrats. This is the second time he’s done this which is why it’s the second time I’m blogging about it.
But how can the campaign make the case that the party should defy the apparent will of its voters? By insisting that many of those voters shouldn’t count. Over the past week, Mr. Sanders has declared that Mrs. Clinton leads only because she has won in the “Deep South,” which is a “pretty conservative part of the country.” The tally so far, he says, “distorts reality” because it contains so many Southern states.
As it happens, this isn’t true — the calendar, which front-loaded some states very favorable to Mr. Sanders, hasn’t been a big factor in the race. Also, swing-state Florida isn’t the Deep South. But never mind. The big problem with this argument should be obvious. Mrs. Clinton didn’t win big in the South on the strength of conservative voters; she won by getting an overwhelming majority of black voters. This puts a different spin on things, doesn’t it?
Is it possible that Mr. Sanders doesn’t know this, that he imagines that Mrs. Clinton is riding a wave of support from old-fashioned Confederate-flag-waving Dixiecrats, as opposed to, let’s be blunt, the descendants of slaves? Maybe. He is not, as you may have noticed, a details guy.
It’s more likely, however, that he’s being deliberately misleading — and that his effort to delegitimize a big part of the Democratic electorate is a cynical ploy.
You should read the entire Op Ed and notice the comments of folks that think Krugman is out of line by comparing the tactics of the left wing populist to his right wing equivalents. The denial runs deep in the Bernie crowd, but as I’ve blogged before, this has incredible racist overtones since he doesn’t discount the white outbacks that he’s won–like Wyoming, Nebraska, Oklahoma, etc–as not being representative. He prefers to characterize Southern Democrats only. It drives me nuts.
Those of us that watched the Brooklyn Democratic Debate last night saw the campaign conversation get nasty. I was glad to see Hillary hitting back and I have to say that despite pundits calling the debate a tie, I found her to be absolutely presidential. She was tough and called him out on his constant hypocritical charges and his lies. This is Rebecca Traister writing for NYMAG.
Oh my god, make it stop.
But it isn’t stopping, because Thursday brought Democrats, including me, our fondest wish and dream: another debate!
And from the start it was clear that this whole civil, respectful race had just deteriorated into some kind of nerdy Punch & Judy show, in which everyone screamed at each other, and over each other (and over the moderators) about 501c4s and Dodd Frank.
No, it was not all bad. Even though the crowd was bellowing with the vigor of their Republican brethren, Sanders and Clinton remained high-minded about the content of their debate, and managed to have some meaningful, if nasty, exchanges. On foreign policy, usually a weak spot, Sanders found a revelatory new groove, offering groundbreaking words about the value of Palestinian lives, and our moral responsibility to question Israeli leadership. His remarkable, electorally risky rhetoric was undercut somewhat by the fact that hours before the debate, Sanders had suspended Simone Zimmerman, the Jewish Outreach coordinator whose hiring had been announced just two days earlier, after reports that she had used vulgar language in reference to Benjamin Netanyahu. It was a move, in response to pressure from conservative pro-Israeli groups, that did not allay fears that as president, Sanders’s stated resolve to implement idealistic policy measures might wither quickly in the face of Republican opposition. Still, Bernie was really great on Palestine.
Meanwhile, in a discussion about guns, Clinton pussy-footed around her silly “per capita” line about guns pouring out of Vermont into New York (yep, @ItTakesAVillage92, I know it is technically correct; it is also lame), but did effectively lay into Sanders on his actually crappy stance on guns. Pointing to the fact that her opponent often laments the greed and recklessness of Wall Street, Clinton asked compellingly, “What about the greed and recklessness of gun manufacturers in America?”
Clinton also managed, almost two hours into this interminable thing, to bring up the concentrated attack on reproductive rights across America, a topic that has not been raised in any of the season’s debates so far, earning her a lot of enthusiastic applause and energetic engagement from Sanders on the topic before Dana Bash cut them off to talk some more about meaningless general-election polling.
But all this interesting stuff was hidden in two hours of yelling. Of “YUUGE” jokes and overcooked lines about “before there was Obamacare there was Hillarycare” and excuses about how Jane does the taxes, which makes them very inaccessible when really, guys, it’s been weeks; you can get someone to dig up copies of the tax returns. All that was good was buried beneath a sheen of rancor, culminating perhaps with Sanders circling around his campaign’s current strategic argument that Hillary’s lead in pledged delegates (and votes, and number of states won) is illegitimate because her victories were so decisive in southern states. “Secretary Clinton cleaned our clock in the Deep South,” said Bernie. “We got murdered there. That is the most conservative part of this great country … But you know what, we’re out of the Deep South now. And we’re moving up.” Putting aside the fact that Clinton’s wins have also come in Massachusetts, Florida, and the Midwest, Bernie’s seeming scorn for voters in southern states, who broke for Clinton perhaps not out of conservatism, but because she has so far done a far better job of reaching black voters, was a low point.
Yes, he went there again about us Southern Democrats right there in Brooklyn on CNN in front of every one watching. I belong to a discussion group on Facebook called American Minorities for Hillary. It’s a very diverse group of minorities to include just about every category possible. I posted the same link to that board as I did down in the comments yesterday which is the second set of analysis from Maddow Blog and Steve Benen on Bernie’s comments. I can unequivocally state that all the Southern Democrats on the board of all shapes and sizes along with a lot of others recognized the tweet of a racist dog whistle.
Bernie Sanders told “Nightly Show” host Larry Wilmore at a taping Wednesday evening that scheduling Southern states early in the Democratic primary “distorts reality.” […]“Well, you know,” Sanders said, “people say, ‘Why does Iowa go first, why does New Hampshire go first,’ but I think that having so many Southern states go first kind of distorts reality as well.”
Iowa and New Hampshire go first. Then, Nevada. Tell me how those states represent the diversity that is this country. South Carolina goes 4th. Again, are voters in Kansas, Idaho and Utah and more representative? This is why I’m glad the extremely diverse state of New York goes next. You notice he never mentions that he lost Massachusetts which is probably one of the top five most liberal states in the country and he doesn’t mention he lost Ohio which is a bit of a US microcosm. I’m getting tired of being his whipping boy. He’s not attracting Black voters. He needs to own that and figure out why.
Today’s column offers an opportunity to say, for the record, why I haven’t been the Bernie booster a lot of people apparently expected me to be. For the business about discounting Clinton support as coming from “conservative states” in the “Deep South” actually exemplifies the problem I saw in the Sanders campaign from the beginning, and made me distrust both the movement and the man.
What you see, on this as on multiple issues, is the casual adoption, with no visible effort to check the premises, of a story line that sounds good. It’s all about the big banks; single-payer is there for the taking if only we want it; government spending will yield huge payoffs — not the more modest payoffs conventional Keynesian analysis suggests; Republican support will vanish if we take on corporate media.
In each case the story runs into big trouble if you do a bit of homework; if not completely wrong, it needs a lot of qualification. But the all-purpose response to anyone who raises questions is that she or he is a member of the establishment, personally corrupt, etc.. Ad hominem attacks aren’t a final line of defense, they’re argument #1.
I know some people think that I’m obsessing over trivial policy details, but they’re missing the point. It’s about an attitude, the sense that righteousness excuses you from the need for hard thinking and that any questioning of the righteous is treason to the cause. When you see Sanders supporters going over the top about “corporate whores” and such, you’re not seeing a mysterious intrusion of bad behavior into an idealistic movement; you’re seeing the intolerance that was always just under the surface of the movement, right from the start.
I feel Krugman’s pain. It’s really hard to watch Bernie and his folks go completely off the deep end on what is and isn’t possible on all levels and to ignore the concerns of women, minorities, and the GLBT community by suggesting all of our problems would be solved by closing all the big banks, giving us medicare for all, free college and a $15 minimum wage. Bernie never has solid answers for any of his policies. In that way, he is very much like Palin and Trump. After the ideological rants, there is very little “there there”.
I’ve actually found two somewhat unenthusiastic voters for Bernie that actually sound reasonable about their votes. Their eyes are wide open and they’d reconsider their votes for him in Maryland if it actually looked as though he was going to win. This is an interesting read at TPM.
I guess a symbolic vote for a symbolic agenda has as much merit as anything I’ve heard from the BernieBro Cult.
So, we have to see what happens on Tuesday. I’m hoping this puts the Sanders campaign to bed for a long summer’s sleep.
What’s on your reading and blogging list today?
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80 responses to “Friday Afternoon Reads”
I didn’t get to see the debate, I’m off to read the live blog now. But thank you for bringing Krugman in, I would have missed that.
There are YouTube’s from CNN you may watch too.
“I guess a symbolic vote for a symbolic agenda has as much merit as anything I’ve heard from the BernieBro Cult.”
I don’t know why they don’t just write in Santa Claus or even The Tooth Fairy!?!
Lol
How Bernie plans to implement his policies
https://lexamantis.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/pooping-rainbows.png
Here’s The Observer say Hillary’s the one with a great wonder woman drawing of her and that exact point on Bernie! http://observer.com/2016/04/in-the-democratic-primary-hillary-clinton-for-president/
Excellent endorsement.
https://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/09-29-03-hillary-as-wonder-woman-friedman-e1460662821171.jpg?quality=80&w=360
You’re so right; don’t cast a symbolic vote, vote for the best, most qualified candidate, period.
I agree with the pundits, I’d call last night’s debate a tie which for Bernie, means a loss. He needed to beat her soundly and he did not. However, I thought it was Bernie’s best performance to date. He did the best he could and because of that, I’ll give him the tie. Hillary was magnificent. I really thought it was a great debate because both candidates were at their best and the debate highlighted the strengths and weaknesses of both of them. At times I as cheering Hillary’s responses. She is awesome.
WaPo gave the debate win to Hillary
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/14/winners-and-losers-from-the-9th-democratic-presidential-debate/
This is the main reason postulated for Bernie’s losing the debate: “Now, to what he did wrong: The sarcasm. He was dismissive to the point of danger, politically speaking, on a number of occasions.” Not a good way to treat Clinton when you are looking for converts which you desperately need to make up ground.
As I listened to sound bites today, I heard not just sarcasm, but also contempt in Bernie’s tone. That’s not what I want from a president.
Glad you and Miles survived the Narrow Escape. I have several kitties and probably deserve “cat lady” status. I am also a Southern Democrat with a little streak of whore in there I guess. OK maybe that was 40 years ago.
Thought the debate was interesting and also learned something about Hillary’s position on fracking. Bernie came off terribly IMO just on demeanor alone.
I have two cats and a dog and we are all Southern whores I guess! I learned about the fracking history too. He fingerwagged over 100 times and shouted over her. He’s too rude for me.
His facial contortions are way over the top. His constant finger wagging (pick me teacher, pick me) his pursed lips, his sweaty top lip, his lip licking, his eyeball rolling, his squinting, his smirking, his shaking his head no or shaking his head yes was all incredibly immature. I can’t imagine a POTUS sitting down with Putin and going through all those weird, dismissive, condescending, annoying facial gyrations. He’d be a total embarrassment as POTUS.
Tourette’s?
Trumpette’s ?
Yes! Absolutely – the finger wagging makes him into a cartoonish caricature of an angry old man screaming “get off my lawn”. Either way – if he’s been advised to stop it (I can’t believe he hasn’t been) he can’t or won’t. How does one go about even picking up a habit like that?
I’m sort of an old (60) and I don’t want to sound ageist – but I’m sorry he is just too old. Does anyone think he would submit to a health exam and make it public? Wouldn’t he be 83 or thereabouts after 8 years? And 8 years in the White House = 20 probably.
He didn’t have what it takes when he was younger, either. He has no details, no real plans, and believes he’ll melt away Republican opposition by sheer energy.
because he is an angry old man – there are many of them out there
New York Democratic Primary NBC 4 NY/WSJ/Marist Clinton 57, Sanders 40 Clinton +17
Let’s hope this holds!!!!!!
Yup!
So sorry about your hand, Dak. I’m glad Miles is OK anyway. That sounds so out of character for him.
He hit something on my wrist. Not sure what but the pain last night was over the top. Advil didn’t quash it. It’s warm, tender and swollen. He was out front on the sidewalk so he may have just been quite scared. He usually takes anything including being carried upside down. He sure was pissed at me.
You poor thing. Be sure to use disinfectant on it. Sometimes cat bites can cause infections.
Pulled out the RX ointment for the MRSA. Think it’s still good albeit old.
At the risk of unsolicited advice (bad habit I got from Mom) – be sure to keep up your tetanus vaccinations. This is probably more important for multiple cat owners like me.
I’ve also experienced that type of pain you describe for inexplicable reasons. I think it’s when they get a vein directly? Not sure. I got bruising with it.
Take care and hope it’s back to normal fast!
Thx. Don’t think I’ve had a tetunus shot since right after Katrina so that’s been 10 years. Will check into it.
Agree. You can get tetanus from rose thorns just as easily as from rusty nails.
Any puncture-type wounds have high risk of infection. Cleaning, scrubbing, and rinsing the area can flush out the bacteria. In fact, most community-acquired MRSA infections, when caught early, can be cleaned and flushed thoroughly and antibiotics aren’t needed.
Our son contracted, what the doctor called ‘cat fever’ when he was scratched by a cat years ago. Keep it dry, clean and use a good antibiotic on it.
Remember to put some ice on it whenever you can.
I’m doing that too. It feels better when I do it!
I guess I’ll have to go read Rebecca Traister to find out why she thinks the problem of guns coming in from Vermont to kill people in NYC is “silly.” It’s not a laughing matter in Boston or Springfield, that’s for sure.
I’m also troubled that Traister thinks last night is the first time Hillary has brought up abortion and reproductive rights. She definitely tried to talk about it in the first debate and other debates too, I think.
Yea. I was wondering that too. Some of her piece felt like it was trying unsuccessfully to be snarky or funny.
It seems that way to me too. But I don’t think what Bernie is doing is funny anymore–especially now that he’s actually trying to make it look like the Pope endorsed him!
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Oh no he didn’t! That’s not a real campaign ad—it can’t be! The Bern is not using the Pope in an ad. Sorry, I can’t believe this.
It’s on his Facebook page!
Sanders: Papist whore.
His ego knows no bounds!
wow, I wonder if he got permission to use that picture.
Well Francis caved: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/16/bernie-sanders-meets-pope-francis-at-the-vatican?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Having read Traister’s piece now, I’ve decided not to read her any more this year. It’s a very good example of “both sides do it,” frankly.
Yeah. That’s a good point.
I don’t agree with Traister either. Hillary pointed out last night that never, in any of the debates, all 9 so far, have any questions been about abortion & women’s reproductive rights. Traister must have missed that, as well as Hillary’s lifetime work on those issues.
Pardon me while I embrace my southern roots …
Beautiful, Ralph!
Too bad you’re so conservative. /s
Love the album title.
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“…..but unfortunately has no idea how to actually get anything done.”
Oh good grief – the Pope isn’t even in Rome right now, is he? That is reprehensible false advertising.
He was to going to go but wrote a hastily written note saying he couldn’t make it and took off for Lesbos early today. He obviously ditched it to avoid Bernie.
I’m afraid the Vatican will have to ask him to cease and desist. Talk about tasteless!
BTW the Bern took a private chartered Delta 767 for his Rome trip. I think they cost approx $200,000 for round trip. Where did poor Bern get the money??http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3542360/Bernie-Sanders-takes-private-flight-Rome-speak-Vatican-conference-burning-gallons-fuel-just-hours-attacking-Hillary-Clinton-climate-change.html
He also took 10 family members with him and the media.
Hope media asks who paid? If campaign paid some of cost, then his “no politics involved” is a lie. And if private funds where used- whose?
Riiiiiiiight.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-is-winning-the-states-that-look-like-the-democratic-party/
Oh that can’t be! His followers always insist he flies coach everywhere! Pffft!
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/bernie-sanders-campaign-contributions-paid-for-his-family-vacation-to-rome/24482/ just found this. The Bern uses campaign funds for trip. All those $27 have come in handy. Two faced liar phony!
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-brings-family-trip-vatican/story?id=38416805
Preposterous!!!
I don’t want to be a snob or anything, but is the outfit Jane is wearing appropriate? And her hair is awful! the two of them look like old hippies.
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Can’t go there. Bernie Bros are waiting for somebody to say something about Jane’s appearance and I’m not giving them that. Hillz’ appearance has been dissected 8 ways to Sunday and it’s absolutely unfair and sexist so I’m leaving Jane alone. But let’s not forget how they went crazy over Michelle, and she’s gorgeous.
Of course they do, they are old hippies!
Debate coach gives Bernie a D and Hillary an A-
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/15/opinions/debate-coach-democratic-debate-graham/index.html
Some of the comments are very good too.
Hillary interrupts too much? How did he miss all of Bernie’s interruptions. And the transcriptions of her private speeches “issue” is ridiculous. Otherwise a good critique.
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What fun!
I can’t imagine Sanders ever relaxing himself enough from his anger to do this.
He doesn’t enjoy interacting with people at all.
She is genuinely an outgoing warm person. I love her laugh and her excitement at winning was real.
Yep.
Rosario Dawson was arrested in that weird protest in DC today.
http://www.tmz.com/2016/04/15/rosario-dawson-arrested-rally-washington-d-c/
Bernie fans are going to protest outside of the DNC fundraiser at George Clooney’s house tonight. I guess they don’t want to have a Democratic Congress?
YouTube has video of protestors. According to reports, there were 500 protestors not the 1600 that was announced. Shouting “hey hey ho ho Hillary Clinton has to go” and banging on pots & pans. This is what a campaign run by the Bern looks like.
http://hoodline.com/2016/04/video-on-the-scene-at-nob-hill-s-clooney-clinton-fundraiser-protest Apparently only100 protestors showed up.
Here’s a madam President in training:
http://www.rawstory.com/2013/04/8-year-old-follows-tenn-lawmaker-around-capitol-until-he-drops-welfare-bill/
He wants to tie welfare benefits for the family to the academic performance of the children!?!?!? The Republicans are just evil, horrible people.
https://medium.com/@AmericaFerrera/why-hillary-clinton-thrills-the-hell-out-of-me-28ce36e16b62#.8oczu78ng