Monday Reads: “Excuse me, I’m Talking!”

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Monday again!

So, we’re past Super Tuesday and heading towards the Ides of March.  I didn’t think I’d learn much new from the Democratic Debate in Michigan last night.   There may have not been any new information but there certainly was a lot of reinforcements of impressions and old information.

Y’all know me.  I’m a nerdy girl. I always have been.  I play piano. I paint. I love animation. I read The Hobbit in 4th grade for the first of many times and discovered Dr. Who in Grad school. I had a comic book collection as a kid.  I was in every AP class in High School. I have a doctorate in financial economics which means I use the same damn math that Rocket Scientists and theoretical physicists use. I love anything nonfiction and documentary.  I’ve worked at the FED, lots of banks, and I’ve taught university. I’ve been nearly the only damn woman in the work environment or class many, many times. I had to go through a lot to get there and stay there.  I’ve been the brains behind a stupid CEO in quite a few states and cities.

So, believe me when I tell you that there’s always one old quack in the room that talks over women, gives nonverbal cues that what we say is unappreciated, and feels that his opinion is the only one that’s important. Every single one of those experiences came flooding back to me last night in living color accompanied by the ol’ heebie jeebies. Oh, and I’m white and any one whose been to my house prior to the flood of young white hipsters would likely call my neighborhood a “ghetto”.   WTF?


* Bernie Sanders: The senator from Vermont had effectively walked a fine line in the previous six debates when it came to attacking Clinton without coming across as bullying or condescending. He tripped and fell while trying to execute that delicate dance on Sunday night. Sanders’s “excuse me, I’m talking” rebuttal to Clinton hinted at the fact that he was losing his temper with her. His “Can I finish, please?” retort ensured that his tone and his approach to someone trying to become the first female presidential nominee in either party would be THE story of the night.

You don’t have to be a woman making her way in a primarily male environment for work to be continually hushed by men. We all know the rules of 12814564_10204381822024140_7116067795353365500_ncommunication are different for us.  We have to interrupt frequently to just get a freaking word in edgewise.

It seems the only thing of importance that happened at last night’s Democratic debate is that Hillary Clinton interrupted Bernie Sanders and he shushed her. This has erupted into a big debate on the Twitters and Facespace thing, but I actually think it’s an important topic we need to discuss.

The rules of communication are different for women and men.

Here’s the deal, guys: women don’t like to be shushed. At all. If my husband ever tells me to be quiet or shush — yes, it’s happened — it elicits an intense, visceral, negative response. It makes me furious. And when it happens in a professional setting? It pushes every feminist button I own.

Why? Because you’re telling me I’m not important. You’re discounting me. You’re saying my ideas don’t matter, and that I don’t have the right to express them.

Men interrupt each other all the time and I daresay they don’t have that same response. It’s just how they communicate. But men and women come at communication from very different places.

The way we communicate is one of the many subtle ways women are expected to take a subservient role in society. I know it looks like we’ve come a long way, baby — hey we can vote and wear pants, huzzah — but when you look at basic social interactions, we’re constantly sent the contradictory message that we are second place. We get talked over, our ideas don’t matter, our issues aren’t important to the country at large they’re “women’s issues,” so who really gives a shit. Our work is worth less. Our effort is less valuable. This is the world from a professional woman’s point of view.

“But Beale,” you say, “Hillary interrupted him.” Yes, she did. Of course she did. And this is another thing about the difference between male and female communication: professional women always have to assert themselves to express their opinion. Because women are talked over all the damn time, it’s something we’ve lived with for generations, and many of us have learned how to interrupt if we want to say something.

But, that wasn’t the only moment where we had our doubts about Bernie’s ability to absorb and be interested in the rights of Americans and the 12809560_10154108439728690_4586282110002982435_n
intersectionality of racism, misogyny,  xenophobia and sexual preference. Those of us that experienced the “White People Don’t Know What It’s Like To Live In The ‘Ghetto’ ” moment last night nearly had a collective heart attack if we knew anything about code words used to race-bait since the adoption of Nixon’s Southern Strategy.  (Follow that link to a great article by historian Heather Cox Richardson on how the Republicans got to their FrankenTrump Monster.)

Movement Conservatives fought to take control of the party from moderate Republicans. Movement Conservatives stood firmly against taxes and government activism, but they built their power by adding racism to their anti-government crusade. They argued that tax dollars redistributed wealth from hardworking white people to undeserving people of color and women. This argument proved a winner when Movement Conservative Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater’s only five states in 1964–aside from his home state—were in the Deep South. In 1968, Nixon captured Goldwater voters by adopting the Southern Strategy to assure white southerners that the days of federal enforcement of civil rights were ending. In 1980, Reagan began his general election campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi, where three civil rights workers had been murdered during Freedom Summer, and told the crowd, “I believe in states’ rights.” The message was unmistakable. He also used the image of the “Welfare Queen,” a black woman who stole tax dollars by making fraudulent welfare claims, in winning the presidency.

 With a Movement Conservative in the White House, the faction’s leaders tied the Republican Party to tax cuts, the deregulation of business, and the end of social welfare policies. Then, when even racism did not produce enough popular support for their economic policies, leaders welcomed evangelical voters into their movement, promising them conservative social legislation in exchange for their votes.

Trump has just been refreshingly openly racist to the point that he’s publicly attracting white supremacists. It seems to be how he won Louisiana since his big supporter turn out was in David Duke’s old district.   New Orleans’ segregationist suburbs gave him his win. No wonder he was so obtuse about Congressman Steve Scalise’s old Stormfront buddies.  He’s dropped the old code words and gone straight for the hate.

Now, imagine our surprise when those code words show up on the lips of a candidate for the Democratic nomination in today’s Democratic Party which12141531_1568330436818314_8491288166233635435_n is solidly supported by the country’s African American voters.

Social media lit up after U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders told debate watchers “when you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto” during the Flint Democratic presidential primary debate.

The answer came after CNN anchor Don Lemon asked the candidates about possible “racial blind spots” they may have.

“(W)hen you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto,” Sanders responded. “You don’t know what it’s like to be poor. You don’t know what it’s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car.”

He then went on to call for an end to systemic racism.

But, the statement drew mixed reviews from those on social media.

I spent a good deal of last night and this morning trying to gently explain the entire concept to a really white young guy going to SFU.

So, here’s my nice young BernieBro’s whitesplain. I’ve withheld the name to protect the ignorant.

This is just an opinion, but I don’t think it was that offensive, especially in the context with which he used it by Sen. Sanders in that debate.

There are ways with which you should and should not use “ghetto” in describing something. Using it to describe the terribly unfortunate and specific living circumstances of some families is proper use of that terminology in my eyes.

Again, just my opinion.

c4c55e58-33d6-4741-b96b-99e0f0101371I couldn’t let that go especially given this was posted to the page of a black democratic activist’s page and comment stream.

He answered the question on institutional racism by using code words and paradigms of white male privilege. Bringing single women into middle class livelihoods will not mean they will not be making 70¢ on the male dollar any more. Bringing black people into or beyond the middle class will not make access to jobs, education,loans or neighborhoods necessarily available. Poverty occurs across gender and racial lines but the experience of poverty or even middle or upper class livelihoods intersect with racism and misogyny which still exist despite income levels. We have plenty of poor whites in this country but when privileged white men use words like “ghetto” or “thug” we know they are code words specifically applied to the black community. It’s a way to apply the “n” word without speaking it. When white folks are unable to see these things it is because of blind spots they develop while living in a society that advantages whites. While I can never truly experience racism, I can watch and listen to others experience of it and learn about my blind spots and experience of privilege. It’s evident that Sanders has not done this in his many years of living and public service. A person with a tin ear cannot truly experience enough empathy to find ways of leading policy to places where problems are solved for all communities.

And of course, the usual “I have to have the last word cause I’m the guy in this conversation” keeps bringing back responses.  I keep getting whitesplaining and mansplaining in one fell swoop.  For some reason, these folks are convinced that Bernie was the white MLK. I have no idea why.

You bring up great points, but I disagree that Sanders hasn’t tried to look into his blindness and see past his privilege in order to and understand what poverty and living circumstances look like for poor black families vs other poor families, or even more specifically black folks in general (no matter their walk of life or income levels).

His work during his younger years in university more than establish that, which certainly carries in to a lot of his policies and thoughts as Senator.

To that end, I still don’t think that just because he’s privileged and white that he should be barred from using such terminology as “ghetto” when describing someone’s living situation. Like I said above, the way he said it seemed incorrect, but I seriously doubt that he would stick to that exact wording were he able to elaborate further on what it means to be poverty stricken, no matter your race or ethnicity.

I believe this for my before-mentioned point at the beginning.

You know me, I can’t let this go.

Ok. So my final point on this is to ask you to listen to what black people are saying rather than to rationalize in your mind that both you and Sanders couldn’t possibly be whitesplaining or under the influence of a blind spot.

At this point, my friend wakes up and takes up the lesson.

Kathryn: your last comment on this is spot on.

Sorry, but your defense of Sanders is sort of like when I hear my white friends say, “my grandad is not racist, but…”

While I don’t believe Sanders’s comment came from a place of malice, his experiences POST college activist days (because who hasn’t done crazy shit when they were in college?) have clearly left him out of touch with the black community. The dude was totally winging this answer. And you’d think that after being shut out by black lives matter, and after being crowned by white people as the white Dr. King, he’d be able to speak more intelligently on this subject.

But no. He is, as Clinton pointed out, a one issue candidate. If the topic doesn’t revolve around breaking up big banks, or if he’s unable to pivot to Wall Street, Sanders knows nothing.

Followed by:
  Nah, Kathryn is right: Ghetto is a code word that is specifically applied to the black community by politicians. Bernie used it that way himself!
So, the old people in the room get this retort from our BernieBro. Notice how closely this first comment echos the republican meme about playing the race card?  Isn’t that special?

There it is, whitesplaining. I guess that’s the trump card.

I did watch the debate, and I don’t understand why you’d think that I wouldn’t understand the moderators question, though, Lester.

I have a question for you though. Kathryn and yourself both mentioned that white males are of privilege, and in Bernie’s case also a politician, use that word to only make mention of the black community.

My question is, would it miraculously be ok for a white male in the middle class to mention ghettos when talking about poverty and living circumstances when, let’s say, maybe he came from the ghetto himself?

I just want to clear the air with that. That seems to be where a lot of this is stemming from.

He continues to be as obtuse as Bernie.  Albeit, he’s young so he still has a chance, I suppose.  There were many things that upset me last night.  None of these things have made me into a Bernie Fan.  Just the opposite.

One of the more interesting things I found out was that the NRA was happily tweeting support for Bernie last night.  This continues to concern me mightily.

During the debate, CNN moderator Anderson Cooper argued that a suit brought by families of the victims from the Sandy Hook shooting against Remington may not go anywhere. He asked Sanders what he would say to those families.

Sanders replied that if a gun was legally purchased, he disagreed with holding the gun manufacturer liable.

“If that is the point, I have to tell you I disagree. I disagree because you hold people — in terms of this liability thing, where you hold manufacturers’ liable is if they understand that they’re selling guns into an area that — it’s getting into the hands of criminals, of course, they should be held liable.

“But if they are selling a product to a person who buys it legally, what you’re really talking about is ending gun manufacturing in America. I don’t agree with that.”

Hillary Clinton‘s campaign has sought to use Sanders’s position on guns against him. It has particularly lambasted his vote in favor of the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) in 2005.

Critics say the law provides gun manufacturers with an unprecedented form of immunity that no other industry enjoys, but supporters maintain that it protects the firearms industry from frivolous lawsuits.

The NRA’s tweet for Sanders was quickly highlighted by Correct the Record, a super-PAC that backs Clinton.

12803209_10156640116950444_6170212311990832598_n Here are the remaining March Election Dates for your information.

Hawaii — Republican Party Caucus March 8, 2016
Idaho — Scheduled Elections: US President for Republican Party and US President for Constitution Party March 8, 2016
Michigan — Presidential Primary Election Day March 8, 2016
Mississippi — State Primary and Presidential Primary Election Day March 8, 2016
Washington DC — Republican Party Convention : Number of Delegates: 19 Total Delegates March 12, 2016
Florida — Presidential Preference Primary Election March 15, 2016
Illinois — Presidential Primary Election and State Primary Election Day March 15, 2016
Missouri — Presidential Preference Primary March 15, 2016
Northern Marianas — Republican Party Caucus : Number of Delegates: 9 Total Delegates March 15, 2016
North Carolina — Presidential Primary and State Primary Election Day March 15, 2016
Ohio — Presidential Primary and State Primary Election Day March 15, 2016
Virgin Islands — Republican Party Caucus : Number of Delegates: 9 Total Delegates March 19, 2016
Idaho — Democratic Party Caucus March 22, 2016
Utah — Presidential Preference Primary Election March 22, 2016
Alaska — Democratic Party Caucus March 26, 2016
Hawaii — Democratic Party Caucus March 26, 2016
Washington — Democratic Party Caucus March 26, 2016

A new poll shows Clinton way ahead in Michigan 

Clinton Opens Up Huge Lead in Michigan (Clinton 66% – Sanders 29%)

There continue to be other lies mentioned by Sanders that keep getting repeated.  First, he keeps at the how he tried to single handedly stop Wall Street from getting Big Banks when he voted for the Deregulation of Derivatives which was probably the one piece of deregulation law that had the most to do with creating the concentration in banking.  Clinton first slammed him with it the CNN debate back on January 18. He’s not stopped the charade.

“You’re the only one on this stage that voted to deregulate the financial market in 2000,” Clinton said, making reference to his support for former President Bill Clinton’s Commodity Futures Modernization Act.

The law effectively gave bankers, or “sophisticated traders,” free rein from pre-existing oversight mechanisms when they wanted to make deals on the sidelines of the major stock exchanges, in “over-the-counter” trading.

Clinton himself would later cop to having made a serious mistake in signing the bill, saying he didn’t understand the extent to which these deals, if they went bad, could ripple across the global economy.

“Even if less than 1% of the total investment community in derivative exchanges, so much money was involved that if they went bad, they could effect 100% of the investments,” he told ABC’s “This Week” in 2010.

12805729_10153851622821900_7477896158568108859_nThe new interesting slam to Sanders was Michigan specific.  He voted against helping the Auto Industry because it might help Wall Street at the same time.  He was against and for but somewhat against the very successful Auto Bailout.  This is another nuanced vote where Sanders decided he wasn’t going to vote for the bill because “purity”.

The bank bailout was so big it had to be doled out in portions. In January 2009, Senate Republicans tried to block the Treasury Department from releasing the second half of the money, some of which was designated for the auto industry. Sanders, based on his opposition to the Wall Street bailout, voted against releasing that money as well.

That vote gave Clinton the opening she needed to hit Sanders as anti-auto bailout on Sunday. “If everybody had voted the way he did, I believe the auto industry would have collapsed, taking 4 million jobs with it,” she said.

(Side note: Having your votes picked apart by opponents is one reason whyit’s tough to run for president as a senator.)

Clinton is technically correct that Sanders voted against releasing the money that went to the auto bailout, but Sanders can also correctly argue that he supported the auto bailout when it wasn’t tied to the Wall Street one.

This back and forth likely isn’t going anywhere; expect both to claim as much over the next few days.

 The Export-Import Bank conversation was even more interesting because Sanders actually agrees with Tea Party crazies on this who think it’s a waste of Tax Payer money. Let me get wonky on you.  Remember I’m a nerdy girl and economist to boot!

Ex-Im exists to help American businesses sell to customers abroad. Recently, it’s not only not been costing taxpayers anything,  it has returned significant amounts of money to the Treasury in the same way Fed profits do.. Bernie’s position threatens a significant number of US jobs.  The competitive position of companies like Boeing would be impacted.  Boeing specifically needs Ex-Im because it has one competitor on the global stage; Airbus.  This industry is a classic duopoly.  Airbus is a European entity that enjoys significant support from its own government when competing with contracts around the world.  This is actually one area where every one is better off with our Government helping that corporation who couldn’t compete with Airbus given its subsidies. The bank has not relied on any taxpayer money since 2008.

Every year Congress sets a limit on the bank’s financial activities. The bank then borrows money from the Treasury to give out direct loans, which it pays back with interest.

Since 2008, the bank has not relied on taxpayer dollars to cover its operational costs and loan loss reserves. Instead, the bank charges customers fees and interest that it uses to cover those costs in full. Often, the fees generate a surplus, which the bank gives back to the Treasury. In the past five years, the bank has given back $2 billion.

Additionally, the bank’s default rates have historically been lower than private financial institutions — the current default rate is less than 0.25 percent.

The bank hasn’t been completely without losses, though. In 1987, several straight years of losses of more than $250 million to $300 million forced the bank to ask Congress for a $3 billion bailout.

The most recent losses were in the 1990s, following the 1997 Asian financial crisis, said Export-Import Bank Advisory Board member Gary Hufbauer, also a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, a nonpartisan think tank.

Still, the bank has generated an overall profit of more than $5 billion for the Treasury since 1990. But just looking at cash flow doesn’t give us a full picture.

My final issue with the Bernie lies and tin ear comments is that he continues to insist that he does not take Super Pac Money.  Sanders keeps earning Pinocchios for this one.  Here’s a pretty comprehensive article on that from Time magazine. 

I just would like to add one more thing about last night’s debate.  The more I see and hear from the man, the more of an active dislike I take.  He should quit before no Dem will work with him in Congress.

Sorry for the really long and late post but I had a helluva lot to say.   I probably should’ve put up Nancy Reagan’s obit as a nicety but I still remember how political  she was to Rock Hudson at the beginning of the AIDS crisis.  I’ll let The Advocate talk about her mixed responses on that account.

What’s on your reading and blogging list today?


55 Comments on “Monday Reads: “Excuse me, I’m Talking!””

  1. RalphB says:

    Glad to see more people joining me in an intense dislike of Sanders. I used to think his run might make for a better election but now want him out asap. Not only out but never heard from ever again!

    • ANonOMouse says:

      I began by trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, but from the beginning I saw his decision to run as a Democrat instead of an Independent as hypocritical and a selling out of his stated beliefs. Even as he rails against PAC money and Establishment money he takes the assistance of the DNC, assistance that is priceless. He wouldn’t have had a chance at a successful campaign as in Independent and he knew it, so he sold his conviction for the opportunity to be POTUS. That was the dagger to the heart for me. Once I comprehended that I lost any respect I had for him.

    • bostonboomer says:

      I can’t stand the man. I couldn’t even look at his nasty hand waving and finger pointing last night. I had to listen only or I would have started screaming.

      The good news is Hillary sandbagged him beautifully on voting against the auto industry bailout. He’ll never recover from that in MI and probably not in Ohio either. As far as Ohio goes, they won’t care for his absolutist position on fracking either.

      Sanders is dead meat.

  2. (I posted this at the end of the last thread, but wanted to do it again because it’s positive!)

    There’s a conversation in Globe and Mail this a.m. between Maureen McTeer (a feminist, lawyer and wife of former prime minister, Joe Clark) and their (adult) daughter, Catherine Clark. It is in honor of International Women’s Day. Here’s how it starts:

    “Catherine Clark: Happy International Women’s Day, Mom. What are you planning to do this week to mark it?

    Maureen McTeer: I’m planning to celebrate!

    CC: Are you celebrating “because it’s 2016”? Or more than that?

    MM: More than that, really. Where do you want me to start?

    CC: Well, how about Hillary?

    MM: You mean the next President of the United States?

    CC: I’m not so sure about that. She’s clearly the most qualified, but that doesn’t always amount to much these days.

    MM: Being the best candidate, as she is, is no guarantee of success. But she is there every day, battling for the job against all comers. She is showing us that women count. No matter what people may think of her personally, she is breaking new ground, moving women forward, maybe even breaking, at last, the glass ceiling that has kept women from these important positions until now.”

    It is so refreshing to read straight up, positive admiration for the job Hillary is doing for all of us without a Y chromosome.

    An aside: ‘Y not’ may become my new personal signature line.

  3. dakinikat says:

    Message to Millennials: Bernie Sanders Is Intellectually Consistent, Not Intellectually Honest
    By Paul Glastris

    Another appealing factor about Bernie is that he’s intellectually consistent. He has a big, overarching, simple-to-grasp vision of what’s wrong with the country and how to fix it: the billionaire class is screwing it up for the rest of us, so let’s trim their political power by reforming campaign finance laws and tax them more to finance government programs that give average people a better life. It’s a vision he’s maintained for decades, there’s always been a lot of truth in it, and that truth is more apparent today than ever.

    But intellectual consistency isn’t the same as intellectual honesty. He’s surely got way more of the latter than the buffoons running for president in the GOP (Ohio Governor John Kasich being an exception). And there’s a basic decency and candor about Bernie that I really admire. He says what he thinks and he doesn’t play word games or tailor his approach to different audiences. These are not qualities people associate with Hillary Clinton, I’m afraid.

    It’s in the realm of policy, however, where I find Bernie intellectually quite dishonest, and Hillary pretty damned honest. When you scrutinize his policy ideas, as wonky liberals have begun doing (finally) in the last couple of months, those ideas don’t stand up, on a bunch of different levels.

    • RalphB says:

      Sure hope millennials get that message.

      • ANonOMouse says:

        They’re not going to get it. They actually believe Uncle Bernie is going to pay off their Student Loans.

        • RalphB says:

          They’re none too bright apparently!

          • ANonOMouse says:

            They’re young and gullible. I’ve talked to a few and attempted to tell them that Bernie wasn’t going to be able to do anything about their student loan debt, but they are convinced that he will. I think Hillary’s plan is much more likely to help with their current debt, but they’d rather have the 10 lottery tickets that Might win them a worth a million dollars than the $20 it cost to buy them.

  4. ANonOMouse says:

    Excellent Post!!!!

    I really enjoyed reading your responses to the berniebro who didn’t/doesn’t understand what a “racial blindspot” is. In fact he demonstrated what a “racial blindspot” is in his response to you and in his defense of Bernie. Bernie’s answer perfectly demonstrated his personal “racial blindspot”. White people have trouble imagining what it’s like to be black. It’s difficult to imagine what it must be like to have to hurdle a bar at every intersection in life, a bar that white people simply do not experience or at least do not experience as a constant. Applying for a job, applying for school, applying for housing, applying for credit, working for a promotion, or just moving about in society freely without feeling threatened are things that most white people take for granted. But all of those things are hurdles for the AA community, and they’re hurdles for all of the AA community, even the majority segment of the AA community that is middle to upper income. That’s what Bernie doesn’t get!!! In Bernie’s mind black = poor = ghetto. To his mind the problem is income equality, not racial inequality and injustice. He can’t ferret out the difference. It’s not about income, it’s about systemic racism.

    Keep giving em hell, Dak!!!!

    • …. and systemic sexism. Bernie also doesn’t get what it’s like being a woman… you can’t talk honestly or convincingly about income inequality without mentioning the 30% discount wage women are routinely paid for 100% work delivered.
      Bernie may have trouble “imagining what it’s like” to be anything but a white male career crank, but (from where I sit) all our societal ills stem from white male supremacy. Take care of that inequity and, my guess is, all the other social ills will be ameliorated, if not downright eliminated.


      • ANonOMouse says:

        I agree. It’s becoming very obvious there’s a lot of things Bernie can’t imagine. I get pretty sick of him describing himself as a Feminist, a Civil Rights activist and a pioneer in the Gay Rights movement. He was none of the above. I’m a feminist lesbian septuagenarian and I guarantee I’ve been more of an activist than Bernie and I’ve never tried to grab the mantle of shero. Bernie ran away to VT after college and wasn’t heard from again, except in failed ventures, until he became mayor of Burlington at the age of 40. I’ll just be glad when this is over so that he can return to his white mecca.

      • Sweet Sue says:


      • janicen says:

        And really, no men do. They can’t. To the same extent a white person like me cannot possibly understand what black people go through. I can try but I am consistently surprised by what I don’t know about racism. When it comes to sexism my husband is what I consider a pretty strong feminist even to the extent that he has stood up to dudes who wanted to pay a woman less than a man for the same job and it has probably hurt his career more than helped it but he doesn’t care. But when he watched that clip of the Oscars when Jenny Beavan walked down the aisle and the row of white dudes sat with arms folded and disgusted looks on their faces my husband was absolutely shocked. Like he couldn’t believe that kind of thing could happen. I wasn’t at all surprised. We see that kind of shit every day.

    • quixote says:

      “or just moving about in society freely without feeling threatened are things that most white people take for granted”

      Only male white people. Female white people don’t have to worry about the cops very much, but having to track and size up every man you see is not actually an easier task.

      (The rape statistics tell you that’s not some stupid unnecessary Nervous Nellie paranoia. One in six white women is raped at some point in her life. One in three women of color. One. in. three.)

      I agree that having the state abuse power is a different kind of awful than random male private citizens. But in terms of its effects and limitations on people’s lives, lots of random citizens are a vast problem and we need to remember that.

      • Sweet Sue says:

        That was the most honest thing about the movie “Wild” with Reese Witherspoon.
        During her long and grueling trek, the most threatening predators were men: the specter of rape hung over her trip like a pall.
        Men will never understand that.

      • janicen says:

        Jesus, I did not know about the disparity in rape statistics. That is staggering.

  5. dakinikat says:

    MSNBC’s Joy Reid sets Bernie straight: Lots of Americans know what it’s like to live in ghettos

  6. RalphB says:

    A few words to live by from my hero.

  7. ANonOMouse says:

    This is the first poll we’ve seen from Ohio in a while

    Ohio Democratic Presidential Primary PPP (D) Clinton 56, Sanders 35 Clinton +21

      • ANonOMouse says:

        I trust the PPP poll in the Democratic Primary more than some of the others because they have a tendency to be a liberal polling group and that affects the polling questions.

      • ANonOMouse says:

        Ohio has 143 delegates. Florida has 214. Illinois has 156. NC 107. Michigan, which is tomorrow, has 130 and MS has 36. She will wipe the floor with him in MS and it looks like MI is set to give her a big win. It also looks good for a big win in OH, FL and possibly NC. No recent polling on IL

  8. janicen says:

    I hate to be an agist, but to me Bernie comes across as an old man stuck in the seventies. I don’t think he was using racist code in the sense that he thought of it as racist code, I think he is so out of touch that he doesn’t recognize that the word “ghetto” in describing where black people live is even relevant anymore. In the same debate he made a “hilarious” mental health joke about Republicans. WTF? A mental health joke? That’s the part of his so called appeal to young people that I just do not understand. What the hell does he say or communicate in any way that comes across as being in tune with young people? At least Obama had a play list that included Jay Z. I picture Bernie tuning in to Lawrence Welk every Saturday night. I don’t think there is malice in his racism, I just think he is completely out of touch.

    • bostonboomer says:

      Yeah, that mental health “joke” was one more example of Bernie’s insensitivity and lack of empathy.

      • ANonOMouse says:

        When he answered that question my wife said, WTF? She’s a nurse and deals with people with mental health issues regularly. She picked up that before I did. By that time I was a bit zoned out.

    • janicen says:

      And by the way, his being stuck in the seventies applies to his sexism as well including the offensive gestures. That’s the way we were treated in the seventies and it was perfectly acceptable. When we complained we were being “too sensitive” or “touchy” (that was one of my dad’s favs) or “a women’s libber” which was a bad thing. Bernie’s sexism and racism would have passed easily in 1973. Forty some years later, not so much.

    • ANonOMouse says:

      I’m aged and I don’t think your comment is ageist. And he is an “old man stuck in the seventies”. He probably has a Volkswagen Bus with a Peace sign parked in his backyard in Burlington. He’s just one of those guys who hasn’t evolved past his youthful pipe dreams. We all know them. You can look at some of his comments from his days in the Socialist Liberty Union Party and it could be his current campaign speech. He’s been trying to sell this message for the past 40+ years and there haven’t been many takers. He’s just beating the dead horse.

  9. bostonboomer says:

    Wonderful post! Thanks for spelling it all out in black and white.

    Bernie just doesn’t get it–not when it comes to racism, sexism, or any other -ism. He joined the white flight out of NYC way back in the ’70s and he’s been living in a bubble ever since.

    That debate last night was his Waterloo. It’s all over for his campaign.

  10. bostonboomer says:

    Ghetto is an Italian word that was originally used to name a Jewish part of Venice in the 1500s. It was used in this country to describe ethnic neighborhoods full of immigrants.

    • ANonOMouse says:

      And the ghetto is basically where I grew up. The house where I grew up was torn down, but much of my childhood neighborhood has been restored through urban renewal and is now the neighborhood of upper middle class professionals. It’s amazing. Sometimes I drive through just to remind myself that all things considered, life’s been good to me.

    • NW Luna says:

      Yes — I though Sanders surely should have known the Jewish segregation in Venice origin.

  11. William says:

    I certainly think that Sanders’ consistently interrupting Hillary, primarily by waving his hands around, or pointing to the moderator as if asking for permission to speak, was very rude. And then for him to tell Hillary to be quiet because he was speaking, was not only rude, but completely hypocritical, because he never let her finish one statement without gesturing so much that it was hard to even concentrate on what she was saying.

    I do want to say that as far as “racism” goes, I don’t know if any White person in this society can successfully navigate the shoals of some people taking offense at virtually anything. Don Lemon, whom I find extremely irritating, first asked Hillary “why should Black people trust you, after the Crime Bill of 1994?” A more offensive way of putting that question can scarcely be imagined. He later asked her about a comment she made in 1996 about “super predators,” which somehow a few Black people have taken umbrage at as directed at them, when of course it was not. He then asked her that because some actor or someone I do not know, said that “all people have some racism in them,” what are her racial biases or blind spots? How does anyone answer that question? Sanders did not do a good job of it, but who would? Hillary is one of the best debaters I have ever seen, she knows everything. But even she always risks the danger of saying something, anything, which some members of a minority group might misperceive or deliberately misinterpret. Last election, the Clintons were called racist by some Obama supporters. So was Geraldine Ferraro. It has become too easy to do, and it is almost a sort of game, a way of asserting moral superiority by those who claimi outrage. And questions like, “what are your racial biases?,” particularly as directed to a candidate, are virtually impossible to handle. Oh, and do note that Don Lemon was apparently (I didn’t see it, but read about it) the person who asked Hillary Clinton a few months ago if the Clintons were responsile for the “birther” movement against Obama.

    • quixote says:

      Framing the question as “What are your racial biases?” does have an element of “When did you stop beating your wife?” But it’s probably also true that if Lemon had asked “Do you have racial biases?” the Twitverse would have screamed, “They’re white!” “Of course they’re biased!” “DUH!!11!!” “Lemon is a racist derp!”

      The real problem is in that phrase: it’s “a way of asserting moral superiority.” The irritating part, I think, isn’t really the calling out. If they were trying to root out all racism from the land, it’d get tiring, but that’s because racism is tiring. No way around that. The irritating part is that loud noise of preening in the background.

  12. bostonboomer says:

    I put up a fresh thread above for the Fox News Detroit Town Hall. It begins at 6PM ET. It only lasts an hour and it will be replayed at 11PM ET.

  13. Ms. Becky says:

    “It pushes every feminist button I own. Why? Because you’re telling me I’m not important. You’re discounting me. You’re saying my ideas don’t matter, and that I don’t have the right to express them.”

    The reason this so pisses me off is because there are countless other instances in countless other ways, where I’ve been told I’m not important, I’m being discounted, my ideas don’t matter, and I don’t have the right to express them. When Sanders said that last night, it was just one more slap in the face. He has annoyed me to no end, but this one? This one was personal.