Eeps! They’re doing it Again! Live Blog for Republican Debate

Newt’s been oddly quiet.  Romney is scrambling for funds and any sign of enthusiastic support from outside of the Republican Money Class.  Paul picked up a big super pac donation from a really odd Louisianian.  Then there’s Saint Rick of the Sexually Obsessed.  He’s undoubtedly going to get the spotlight tonight as his completely crazy religious views have taken him to places that I doubt any one has one before. The establishment hates him but the crazy base thinks he’s just right.  Afterall, his culture jihad got him thrown out of his senate position.

“Santorum’s job tonight is to quell fears about his general-election electability,” says Republican strategist Ford O’Connell. “Taking on social issues to differentiate himself from [Newt] Gingrich and Romney is a good strategy, but it’s high risk. He’s been over-talking.”

Santorum’s first task, Mr. O’Connell says, is to take his strong views on social issues – a plus with the so-called “values voters” in the Republican base – and turn them into a discussion on limited government and strong families, not about telling individuals what to do. In recent days Santorum has been all over birth control, women’s role in society, and same-sex marriage.

Then there’s the story about his 2008 speech on how Satan was “attacking the great institutions of America,” now in its second day on the highly read Drudge Report. When asked about it Tuesday, Santorum didn’t disavow the remarks.

“I’m a person of faith. I believe in good and evil,” Santorum said in response to questions from CNN, host of the Wednesday night debate, which begins at 8 p.m. Eastern time.

Then he added that he didn’t think the topic was relevant to today.

“What we’re talking about in America today is trying to get America growing. That’s what my speeches are about. That’s we’re going to talk about in this campaign,” said Santorum.

Meanwhile, Romney’s hoping his newly released tax plan will get some votes.  I’m sure it won’t be from economists or people that like strong economies.  Look for him to try to fit this in where he can.  Well, that an some pointed jabs at Santorum.

Reducing the top corporate tax rate to 25 percent was a central point of an economic proposal Romney offered in September. The former Massachusetts governor’s plan, which would eliminate taxes on interest, dividends and capital gains for individuals making $200,000 or less per year, came under criticism over a lack of details.

Romney suggested during a town-hall meeting in Shelby Township, Michigan, yesterday that he’d offer details.

“I’ll be coming out with some proposals of my own this week that describe how I cut, create more pro-growth tax policies,” Romney said. “I want to see a flatter, fairer, broader-based tax system.”

The Debate will be on CNN tonight at 8 pm EST.   It’s being held not too far where my parents lived for awhile in Mesa Arizona.

Washington bureau chief Sam Feist, who’s producing CNN’s seventh debate this cycle, said the 8 p.m. face-off “comes at an important moment in the campaign” as tight races develop in Arizona and Michigan. And given the lack of debates since January, Feist said “there are a lot of topics that are likely to come up in this debate that, frankly, haven’t come up in the other debates.”

Feist wasn’t about to tip off the candidates about what moderator John King might throw their way, but social issues, which received increased media attention since the Florida debates, are expected to get some play.

It’s also possible that former senator Rick Santorum could be asked about his 2008 comments about Satan “attacking the great institutions of America,” which had a second life Tuesday thanks to The Drudge Report. When asked if the Satan comments could come up, Feist simply said that “nothing is off the table.”

The questions asked during the previous 20 debates this week came under scrutiny from New York University professor Jay Rosen and his students in the Studio 20 program, who studied all 839 of them. The students, working with The Guardian, found that 13 percent of the questions asked involved “campaign strategy and the way the candidates responded to each other’s negative ads.”

However, they noted that members of debate or online audiences asked zero questions about polls, flip-flops or negative ads, suggesting that journalists may be preoccupied by process-oriented questions that are of less interest to the public.

Feist said he found the study “interesting and valuable,” but quibbled with how the questions were categorized. “If you ask a candidate about a comment made in a negative ad, I don’t see that as campaign strategy,” Feist said. “I see that as a rare opportunity to have the candidate respond to the negative ads that the public has been inundated with.”


This will be last debate before Super Tuesday so look for every candidate to try to make high impact statements.  Will they all play nice?

134 Comments on “Eeps! They’re doing it Again! Live Blog for Republican Debate”

  1. dakinikat says:

    CNN said this is the 20th debate. ARGH!!!

  2. bostonboomer says:

    So far, I can’t find a live stream of the debate.

  3. dakinikat says:

    So John King is the moderator. I bet Newt Gingirch wishes he had something controversial this week.

  4. dakinikat says:

    Oh sheesh … the pledge and the national anthem! Are we significantly jingoistic now?

  5. bostonboomer says:

    Is this a sporting event? Why do they sing the national anthem?

  6. dakinikat says:

    gawd, the neoconfederate just introduced himself as a constitution lover….

    Santorum just avoided a pius opening

    Willard is trying to channel Zombie Reagan again

    Newt? Who is Newt?

  7. dakinikat says:

    Santorum hit ‘Obamacare” on a debt question

    He’s saying he won’t cut defense, but cut off poor people … listing all the means tested programs he’d get rid of

  8. dakinikat says:

    Mitt hit spending on planned parenthood and education … hes making that faux comparison of balance budgeting and business again.

  9. bostonboomer says:

    He’s going to make Medicaid time-limited? What will they do with all the old people in nursing homes when they reach the limit?

  10. bostonboomer says:

    Those programs like food stamps are already run at the state level.

  11. dakinikat says:

    Oh sheesh, there’s that lie about federal workers more than private sector. Willard is just a serial liar.

    and now Santorum is taking credit for the Clinton record

  12. dakinikat says:

    So, I’m noticing that no one is sporting their ashes on the foreheads … I guess they’ll just have to be serving SATAN

  13. bostonboomer says:

    Cut, cap, and balance? I think that would probably be the end of the federal government.

  14. dakinikat says:

    Omigosh, Newt just said you can’t balance the budget on the backs of unemployed and a low growing economy …

  15. bostonboomer says:

    Ron Paul is such a little old geezer.

  16. dakinikat says:

    Paul is screaming about foreign aid which is less than 1/2 percent of the federal budget.

    • B Kilpatrick says:

      It’s 1/2 a percent that manages to tick a lot of people off and keep a lot of really nasty people in power. -facepalm-

  17. dakinikat says:

    King wants to know what Severely conservative means.

  18. dakinikat says:

    Mitt’s pandering to Catholics on not granting foster children or adoptive children to gay couples.

  19. bostonboomer says:

    Romney is repulsive.

  20. dakinikat says:

    Willard has hit women, gays, immigrants, and the poor it’s only his third or fourth comment.

  21. ralphb says:

    What a bunch of total assholes. And they’re ignorant to top it off!

  22. dakinikat says:

    Mitt said he’d ban earmarks … how can the president do that?

  23. bostonboomer says:

    When are they going to ask Rick about Satan and how he took over Europe and the mainline protestant churches?

  24. dakinikat says:

    Romney’s tag line to Santorum of the night:

    While I was fighting to save the Olympics, you were fighting to save the bridge to know where.

  25. dakinikat says:

    Santorum and Gingrich just called Mitt a liar and Santorum is getting boo’d.

  26. dakinikat says:

    Santorum just hit Ron Paul for being an ear marker

  27. bostonboomer says:

    Romney doesn’t know what he’s talking about and Santorum just said so. The audience didn’t like it though.

  28. bostonboomer says:

    Newt is going to lecture on how Congress works now.

  29. dakinikat says:

    Santorum still can’t figure out that in 2008 Barrack Obama was not the president and therefor did not bail out wall street …

  30. bostonboomer says:

    They all want other people to feel pain. When are they going to sacrifice something?

  31. bostonboomer says:

    Awww…Romney doesn’t want to save Wall St. banks. He was worried about the other banks.

    • dakinikat says:

      Wasn’t worried at all about the auto companies. Newt says it when he says Toyota and Honda were fine. Who cares about auto workers?

      • bostonboomer says:

        He also said BMW and Mercedes were fine. All of those are foreign cars, even if they are being built here by non union workers.

      • B Kilpatrick says:

        Toyota and Honda are fine. Screw the big three if they can’t make a profit even with the govt/corporate fleet market pretty much guaranteed to them. Guess they should branch out from making crapmobiles and 37-ton SUVs.

  32. bostonboomer says:

    I can’t stand to listen to this anti-union talk when the unions have been giving back for years and years.

  33. ralphb says:

    I had to turn it off. I was in fear for my TV, Thanks for keeping me updated.

  34. dakinikat says:

    I have to say this is an UGLY crowd and CNN is letting them hoot and holler like it’s a jerry springer show …

    next up is immigration and “faith” which ought to bring out the real ugly in this group

  35. dakinikat says:

    King got boo’d for asking which candidate believes in birth control

  36. bostonboomer says:

    Romney hasn’t seen the kind of attack on religious freedom that is being carried out by Barack Obama.

    What a slimy a-hole!

  37. dakinikat says:

    King’s bringing up Santorum’s comment about the “dangers” of contraception … Santorum is points to what the stats dont’ show … the out of wedlock births out coming from teenagers. He mustn’t have read the article he keeps bringing up.

  38. bostonboomer says:

    Oh wow. Santorum likes Charles Murray’s book.

  39. bostonboomer says:

    How is ending birth control going to help out-of-wedlock births? I’m confused.

  40. bostonboomer says:

    Ron Paul says that an immoral society results in people wanting to use birth control pills.

  41. bostonboomer says:

    Romney says that “in certain ethnic groups” almost all babies are born out of wedlock.

  42. dakinikat says:

    I really don’t like Mitt Romney … he’s disingenuous and he lies.

  43. dakinikat says:

    oh, this is so cringe worthy … every one gets choice but women

  44. dakinikat says:

    Ron Paul beating up on Planned Parenthood.

    Santorum doesn’t like Title 10 funding …

    this is just the heart of everything that’s wrong with today’s GOP

  45. bostonboomer says:

    Now Ron Paul is lying about Plan Parenthood. He says they use federal money for abortions.

  46. bostonboomer says:

    Someone ask Santorum to provide data to back up his statement that abstinence programs work.

  47. bostonboomer says:

    Santorum is saying Romney is responsible for the contraception problem because of Romneycare being the model for Obamacare. Romney looks like he just sucked on a lemon.

  48. bostonboomer says:

    Now Romney points out that Santorum endorsed him in 2008 and said Romney was a conservative.

    • bostonboomer says:

      Romney thinks the President can repeal laws. He doesn’t understand that there are three branches of government.

  49. dakinikat says:

    Wow, this exchange between Santorum and Romney on the Romney/Obama care has turned into an Arlen Specter hatefest

  50. bostonboomer says:

    Santorum is wiping the floor with Romney. He points out that the MA constitution requires balancing the budget every year. Michael Dukakis did it for 10 years. Is he qualified to be president?

  51. dakinikat says:

    Okay, moving from misogyny now to racism

  52. bostonboomer says:

    I can’t handle the immigration stuff. I’m taking a short break.

  53. I’ve only been listening intermittently. Scooping litter boxes was much more enjoyable than listening to these idiots.

    Apparently there was no sex outside of marriage before the pill. Santorum says abstinence teaching works. Newt – secure our borders. I like him to secure my house so no ants get in. Do any of these men live in the real world? They are so out of touch with reality. Mitt – Arizona is a model. For what? Nazism? I’m switching stations before I lose my mind.

  54. SophieCT says:

    Employers get sanctioned for not paying taxes? Oh really?!

  55. Minkoff Minx says:

    One word…assholes.

    What the hell, is the swimsuit competition up next.?

  56. dakinikat says:

    Danger Will Robinson!!! Let’s ramp up the military again!!!

  57. Minkoff Minx says:

    So has there been any questions about Santorum and his satan statement?

  58. dakinikat says:

    The only guys asking questions from the audience are el chubbo white men with odd facial hair/hair cuts… what does that say?

  59. dakinikat says:

    Didn’t Newt not want women in combat positions because they got yeast infections back in the 90s or am I having one of those pesky flashbacks again because I lived through the 60s?

  60. bostonboomer says:

    Romney isn’t worried about the price of gas. Gee, I wonder why? I can think of about $250 million reasons.

  61. dakinikat says:

    Romney doesn’t understand all options are on the table vis a vis Iran’s nuclear strategy and the president’s comments … guess he needs to say, I will blow you nasty suckers up or it’s just not said …

  62. bostonboomer says:

    Romney says if we reelect Obama, nukes will be used.

  63. dakinikat says:

    sounds like nukes will be used if any of them are president too because they’re going to do it

    • Minkoff Minx says:

      Santorum sounds like a lunatic…

    • SophieCT says:

      Dak: Ding ding!

      Minx: Sounds like??!!

    • B Kilpatrick says:

      Except for that naughty old “neo-confederate?” (Of course, admitting that would violate your policy of never, ever saying anything nice about Republicans because Republicans are the Other Side and therefore automatically the very epitomy of evil, so I guess you get a pass on that. 😉 )

      • dakinikat says:

        I used to be a Republican before the party went bat shit insane. I used to like Mitt’s father a lot. I was watching two old Republicans last night—Simpson and Bartlett–and they think the same thing about the “new” Republican party that I do. Bartlett who was an economist and key in the Reagan administration said Reagan couldn’t get elected any more in the Republican party.

        I’m an independent now but I have to vote democrat most of the time because there’s no other rational choice.

  64. dakinikat says:

    Santorum said SATAN!!! Drink!!!

    next up: Gingrich and SIGMA

  65. dakinikat says:

    It’s hate on teachers now. Newt is totally talking about something no where near reality

  66. dakinikat says:

    coming up on the final question …

  67. Woman Voter says:

    Homs grieving American journalist Marie Colvin & French photographer Rémi Ochlik for risking lives to report to the world plight of Syrian people (Santorum should be required to watch this clip, as even in MENA people see women as dedicated professionals and value them as any man lost/killed while carrying out their jobs) Marie Colvin & Rémi Ochlik RIP

  68. dakinikat says:

    what’s the biggest misperception?

    sheesh, Ron Paul thinks he’s electable

    • dakinikat says:

      Romney ignores question had gives his stump speech

      • dakinikat says:

        and tells John King to fuck off with his question … he wants to do his memorized closer regardless. Same with Santorum …

        guess some folks just never learned to follow directions

    • B Kilpatrick says:

      So do quite a few polls.

      • ralphb says:

        Then Paul and some polls are batshit insane!

      • B Kilpatrick says:

        I really don’t know when people started thinking that not having the govt up your arse 24/7 is batshit insane, but I imagine it was a very bad day. Personally, I’m a bit more alarmed by the fact that we’re all being reduced to welfarised, well-policed apolides than by the possibility of the military, for instance, not just buying new computers each year and throwing the old ones out. Silly me.

      • dakinikat says:

        Paul thinks it’s okay for the state government to be up your ass 24-7. How is that any different?

  69. Fannie says:

    Misconception — I can’t carry my state, tho I lost my 18 points…….misconception vs. contraception

  70. dakinikat says:

    BREAKING: Bush Appointee Finds DOMA Unconstitutional | Moments ago, Judge Jeffery White of the District Court for the Northern District of California ruled that the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) violates the Constitution’s equal protection clause in a case brought by Karen Golinski. Golinski, represented by Lambda Legal, “was denied spousal health benefits by her employer, the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco.” White was appointed to the court by President George W. Bush in 2002. The decision represents a serious setback for House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH), whose Bipartisan Legal Advisory Group (BLAG) defended DOMA after the Obama administration announced it would no longer defend the law. Read the full opinion here. (HT: GinnyLaRoe)

    from Think Progress

    • bostonboomer says:

      I posted that on my thread down below. Very exciting. This is the third court that has found DOMA unconstitutional, beginning here in MA.

    • NW Luna says:

      #6 Being there in the first place.

      I have to be in just the right mood to appreciate their wingnut, flat earth, econ 101 flunkout mindset. Thanks to all for watching so I didn’t have to go through it!

      When are they going to finally stop having yet another debate?

  71. northwestrain says:

    The GOP debates were a non subject — northwest of Mesa, AZ. I was out meeting fiber artists and we talked about almost every topic except the stupid “debate”. Of course the only campaign signs around here I’ve seen are for Ron Paul.

    MM — spinners galore up here!!

    The local paper has a letter to the editor — about how the GOP is at long last fielding real Christians candidates at long last. Then then numbnuts went on to quote a bunch of scripture. You can’t argue with nuts like that — their rules require that all rebuttals use scripture — that book of myths and mythology. No logic need apply. According to the rightwing religious nuts — abortion is the evil of our time — and I translate that to mean WOMEN are the root cause of all evil and everything that is wrong. According to the extreme rightwing religious nuts.