Bill Clinton is a PUMA!
Posted: June 28, 2008 Filed under: Uncategorized | Tags: Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton is a PUMA, DNC NO UNITY, JUST SAY NO OBAMA, No Obama, OBAMA NO DEAL, PUMA 83 CommentsFrom the UK Telegraph:
Bill Clinton says Barack Obama must
‘kiss my ass’ for his support
Bill Clinton is so bitter about Barack Obama’s victory over his wife Hillary that he has told friends the Democratic nominee will have to beg for his wholehearted support.
APBill Clinton is still very bitter that Barack Obama beat his wife HillaryMr Obama is expected to speak to Mr Clinton for the first time since he won the nomination in the next few days, but campaign insiders say that the former president’s future campaign role is a “sticking point” in peace talks with Mrs Clinton’s aides.
The Telegraph has learned that the former president’s rage is still so great that even loyal allies are shocked by his patronising attitude to Mr Obama, and believe that he risks damaging his own reputation by his intransigence.
A senior Democrat who worked for Mr Clinton has revealed that he recently told friends Mr Obama could “kiss my ass” in return for his support.
A second source said that the former president has kept his distance because he still does not believe Mr Obama can win the election.
Mr Clinton last week issued a tepid statement, through a spokesman, in which he said he “is obviously committed to doing whatever he can and is asked to do to ensure Senator Obama is the next president of the United States “.
Mr Obama was more effusive at his unity event with Mrs Clinton on Friday, speaking fondly of the absent former president, who attended Nelson Mandela’s birthday celebrations in London instead. The candidate told the crowd: “I know how much we need both Bill and Hillary Clinton as a party. They have done so much great work. We need them badly.”
But his aides said he has so far concentrated on cementing relations with Mrs Clinton first. They say they are content to let relations with Mr Clinton thaw gradually.
It has long been known that Mr Clinton is angry at the way his own reputation was tarnished during the primary battle when several of his comments were interpreted as racist.
But his lingering fury has shocked his friends. The Democrat told the Telegraph: “He’s been angry for a while. But everyone thought he would get over it. He hasn’t. I’ve spoken to a couple of people who he’s been in contact with and he is mad as hell.
“He’s saying he’s not going to reach out, that Obama has to come to him. One person told me that Bill said Obama would have to quote kiss my ass close quote, if he wants his support.
“You can’t talk like that about Obama – he’s the nominee of your party, not some house boy you can order around.
“Hillary’s just getting on with it and so should Bill.”
Another Democrat said that despite polls showing Mr Obama with a healthy lead over Republican John McCain, Mr Clinton doesn’t think he can win.
The party strategist, who was allied to one of the early rivals to Mr Obama and the former First Lady, said Mr Clinton was “very unhopeful” about the nominee’s prospects in November.
“Bill Clinton knows the party will unite behind Obama, but he is telling people he doesn’t believe Obama can win round voting groups, especially working-class whites, in the swing states,” the strategist said.
“He just doesn’t think Obama will be able to connect with the voters he needs.”
Joe Klein, the author of Primary Colours, a fictionalised account of Mr Clinton’s 1992 election, who has known the former president for 20 years, said he also heard that he was “very, very bitter”, from people who have spoken with him.
Have I mentioned enough on this blog yet HOW MUCH I LOVE THE BRITS?
“It’s time for him to get over it or go off and do his charitable work. He knows the rules of the road. What’s going on now is kind of strange. I think his behaviour is really, really shocking.”
Party Unity My ASS!
Posted: June 27, 2008 Filed under: Uncategorized | Tags: disunity, just say no deal, No Obama, PARTY UNITY MY ASS, PUMA, unity 3 CommentsWhile Bill was held captive in some undisclosed area in Europe, Hillary Clinton put on her best Democratic face and blue pantsuit then joined the legions of Obama Fluffers. The big question now remains. How many deadenders are out there that are not buying this unity marketing campaign? It appears the Puma Rebellion is now big enough that all the MSM channels and even news papers are noticing. Yesterday, it was the WaPo. ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/26/AR2008062604162.html) Today, even CNN’s Wolf Blitzer got into the act.
Suddenly, those of us in the PUMA roots were being courted for press interview. We know the Obama campaign has poured over our sites and when you look threatening enough, assigns you an Obama Troll of your very own. Our presence has been duely noted, but has not ranked up there enough with sites like No Quarter to achieve multi-trolling.
My mother used to say that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. This was her way of saying my tongue was way too sharp. Obama’s minions will occasionally try the honey: But Hillary says she’s supporting him! (Yeah, I know, most of them are still probably virgins with lines like that!) ALL the KIDS are DOING IT!!!! But generally, they ramp up shortly to thwapping you with race cards and nasty labels. Then the nasty Republican policies enter the equation. Problem is that John McCain isn’t your standard Republican and Obama has no record to run on. The only thing you have is his word, and gee his word on FISA, public financing, hand gun bans or nonbans, Iran (threat or no threat), and unconditional well, maybe not so unconditional chatting with despots still has me wondering if Obama really knows the meaning of the word truth.
Here’s an NPR editorial. This is the beginning, hopefully, of the Media taking a real hard look at Obama the way that those of us in the PUMA movement have.
So, anyway, there are many folks out there trying to get a headcount on us. Latest thing I saw on statistics said that about 25% of original Hillary supporters are saying no to Obama and perhaps an additional 10% haven’t figured out what to do yet. DNC pundits are pounding home historical trends of chicks coming home to the roost prior to the GE. The Baltimore Sun had a great article on this called “Painful Lessons” by Dr. Lynette Long. She outlines the things she’s learned during the Hillary run for President.
source: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.women18may18,0,3121832.story
Among the most interesting points in the article is the belief held by the DNC that women will return and vote Obama because they have no place else to go. They think we’ll just go along with their less-than-evil party niche.
“Women voters are not factored into the decision making of the Democratic National Committee. The DNC is concerned that black voters will protest and stay home if Senator Clinton gets the nomination, even though she is the stronger and more electable candidate. But the DNC doesn’t worry that white women, three times larger than the combined black vote, will stay away from the polls if Mrs. Clinton does not get the nomination. They expect the white women of the party to fall in step and vote for Mr. Obama in the general election. ”
This is one chick that is not coming home to roost and I think that the DNC is about to find out that many women have had it with being taken for granted. Twenty-five percent of 18 million voters is a heck of a lot of people. Perhaps this sudden awareness of PUMA and JUST SAY NO DEAL and the huge number of MSM articles is due to the number of women responding with utter frustration to their prior sexist and nasty articles and blogs with “PUMA BOMBS”. This is the PUMA response to the seemingly endless cut and paste political points that have flooded the Hillary blogs and sites for months now. The difference is that we’re not being paid for it. Obama’s blog trolls are salaried. If you watch some of the larger sites (like No Quarter) you can even tell when their shifts change. The message of the day is pretty much the same and their tactics are similar.
PUMA is an interesting rebel movement. I’ve long said that I have felt the stirrings of a new women’s movement only to be belittled with charges that it could neve result in a backlash quasi-championed by the Anti-choice McCain with his surly sexist jokes and insulting names for women, including wife Cindy. However, this belies the major point. It’s a backlash and a protest. No one said that actions rooted in anger and injustice make sense. They are results driven more than dogma driven.
The biggest thing I’ve noticed about the PUMA movement that is ignored by the Obama folks is the incredible amount of diversity in the ranks. It is not a movement of just white women. There are women of many backgrounds as well as many men. I can provide blog names of gay men, African Americans, Asian-Americans, straight men, Americans of middle eastern and Indian descent, Native Americans, and every flavor of Latin/Hispanic American possible. Here’s a link to Riverdaughter’s The Confluence showing a MAWN speaking to Fox and protestors at the unity event that includes (shock!) ANTI WAR PROTESTORS!
source: http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/pumas-at-unity/#comment-55686
Many of us (including me) have signed up for the movement and are in for the long haul. We cannot sit idly by and watch the DNC make a mockery of the democratic process.
Nancy and Howard and Barrack and Harry: PARTY UNITY MY ASS! Ignore us at your own peril!
Under the Bus Denial: You might be Experiencing It
Posted: June 20, 2008 Filed under: Uncategorized | Tags: FISA, No Obama, PUMA, Under the bus, unity pony 8 CommentsHello, my name is Dakinikat and I’ve been under the bus since Obama and the DNC told the U.S. that they didn’t need Hillary Voters to win the GE. Since I am now a veteran of under-the-bus syndrome, I have been authorized to point out symptoms and suggested cures for those of you from Daily Kampf, Huffpoop, and even my old haunt FireDawgFLake that have just recently been thrown UNDER THE BUS. Let me help walk you through Under the Bus Denial.
Yes, I know, you’re standing there, thinking… why did he throw me under the bus. 
Yesterday I was important. Yesterday I was a person with a vote that counted.
Remember, this is your first clue. There is a meeting held some where in a dark room where he finally says something to the effect of:
“However, I need to make a decision in the next few months as to how I manage that since I’m running against John McCain, which takes a lot of time. If women take a moment to realize that on every issue important to women, John McCain is not in their corner, that would help them get over it.”
Rep. Diane Watson, D-Calif., a longtime Clinton supporter, did not like those last three words — “Get over it.” She found them dismissive, off-putting.
source: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/tense-moment-at.html
Yes, Representative Diane Watson, you are under the bus. You must embrace it in order to heal and move forward. You know you’re beginning to get better when the Unity Pony comes calling and something seems to be amiss.
I’ve chose a few posts from Huffpoop (yes they are real) about the FISA position. Perhaps you’ll recognize some of the symptoms and realize you too, could be suffering from under the bus denial.
“Choking on all that Kool-Aid I drank after Iowa. wow! I feel like Barack just punched me.”
This definitely is symptomatic of coming to terms with being UNDER THE BUS.
“I think it’s time for some emails to the Senator’s senate office pointing out that we the people, who have funded his campaign, are not pleased.”
Sorry, sweetie, you are in strong denial of being under the bus. Please get with an Under-the-Bus partner and by all means, go to OTHER websites. LOOK for the PUMA LABEL. You can be helped.
“why wouldn’t he give us a taste of that change we yearn for? why won’t he be the leader that we are all expecting him to be? it doesn’t seem like this would be such a hard battle for him to fight…especially since we have been told he taught constitutional law. 41 senators is all he would need to fillibuster this bill. do you honestly believe that would be a difficult task for him to accomplish? just seems to me that this is the opportune time for him to show us what kind of president he will be.”
Yes, classic denial. Notice the fleeting hope that this yet might be resolved some other way than saying “I’m now UNDER THE BUS”.
“If he is forced, politically, to support some bill or other, how is going to bring the kind of change he has promised us? I’ve never heard such orginal excuses as I have seen on this thread this morning. Can’t we just be honest about it and say that if all the other Democrats were wrong to support it, so was he?”
Wow, that is a strong sign of moving from the denial of being thrown under the bus, to the anger of being thrown under the bus. This blogger at HuffPoop has actually come a long way in less than 24 hours. Now, here’s my advice for those of you in this place.
Remember just to wake up tomorrow and say:
“Hello, my name is Cheetoh”
and I’ll be right there …. Hello Cheetoh. Then you say this,
“and I’ve been Under the Bus for 1 day now.”
Then go to your computer and THEN to this site: http://www.justsaynodeal.com/
What you will find is at least 18 million others who were also thrown under the bus and we’re all here to help you.
What is the half-life of Hopium?
Posted: June 20, 2008 Filed under: Uncategorized | Tags: FISA, No Obama, OBAMA SELL OUT ON FISA 2 CommentsToday, I bravely ventured back on to a few blogs where I’d been unceremoniously told I was, let’s see, a republican-in-disguise, a racist, a bitter old hillary hag … ah, okay, I’ll just get to the point. It appears that Senator Obama’s support of the FISA compromise is becoming a partial antidote to Hopium. I’m also seeing signs that the rejection of public financing is having similar results. (Check out this thread on NQ for more on that including a nifty youtube that you may enjoy.)
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/20/baracks-eraser-in-chief/
Here’s the Obama position. (Look for it in the periodical section as he is the candidate of change and may in fact change his position over and over and over.)
Statement of Senator Barack Obama on FISA Compromise
Given the grave threats that we face, our national security agencies must have the capability to gather intelligence and track down terrorists before they strike, while respecting the rule of law and the privacy and civil liberties of the American people. There is also little doubt that the Bush Administration, with the cooperation of major telecommunications companies, has abused that authority and undermined the Constitution by intercepting the communications of innocent Americans without their knowledge or the required court orders.
That is why last year I opposed the so-called Protect America Act, which expanded the surveillance powers of the government without sufficient independent oversight to protect the privacy and civil liberties of innocent Americans. I have also opposed the granting of retroactive immunity to those who were allegedly complicit in acts of illegal spying in the past.
After months of negotiation, the House today passed a compromise that, while far from perfect, is a marked improvement over last year’s Protect America Act.
Under this compromise legislation, an important tool in the fight against terrorism will continue, but the President’s illegal program of warrantless surveillance will be over. It restores FISA and existing criminal wiretap statutes as the exclusive means to conduct surveillance – making it clear that the President cannot circumvent the law and disregard the civil liberties of the American people. It also firmly re-establishes basic judicial oversight over all domestic surveillance in the future. It does, however, grant retroactive immunity, and I will work in the Senate to remove this provision so that we can seek full accountability for past offenses. But this compromise guarantees a thorough review by the Inspectors General of our national security agencies to determine what took place in the past, and ensures that there will be accountability going forward. By demanding oversight and accountability, a grassroots movement of Americans has helped yield a bill that is far better than the Protect America Act.
It is not all that I would want. But given the legitimate threats we face, providing effective intelligence collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay.
Here are some of the comments I gleaned off of one of my old haunts … 
“barak is already a disappointment and already too late for us to do anything about it…what the frig is going on here, I was actually excited about this campaign and his presidency, now I don’t give a flying frig”
“He told us all to fuck-off. Piss on ‘im.”
“How do we get through to ‘Mr Next President’ that he’s about to lose a whole lot of potential votes? (I haven’t sent him much money, but I’m inclined to ask for it back. I can use it. It’s two tanks of gas for my fuel-efficient car.)”
“What can I say? Anyone who competed in Speech tournaments in the 70’s gave Obama’s speeches on a weekly basis. Most Democrats bought it. What else won’t he stand up to or are ‘cute bloggers’ the only focus of his resistance?”
“It’s a good thing I didn’t eat luch today or I would have ralphed it up. Not another dime. Dry up his money. and the next time some Obamabot gets all dreamy about how their demi-god is “transformative” I am going to vomit on that persons shoes. While their feet are in them. He is a two bit Chicago politcal hack–and he has conned the democratic party with a nice suit and pretty speech. He sure is good at talking the talk, but he is utterly incapable of walkingthe walk. Somebody may owe Big Dawg an apology. He may have been right all along. Yo! Edwards! Yeah you! Time to unsuspend that campaign of yours. The convention vote has not been cast yet.”
“Based on Obama’s statement I can see why he is no longer a Constitutional Law Professor.”
“Consider this Obama’s Friday evening progressive dump. As I’ve said before, we’re all Sister Souljahs now.”
“Obama relied, the Rule of Law died.”
“That’s it. Obama will never get my money, he will never get my vote. I will organize like minded people against him.”
“So at least now we know that Obama sides with those who would place the protection of our corporate and political masters over the preservation of the Constitution. It was comforting to think otherwise, but now we’re all back out in the cold.”
“Don’t be so sure. Many of us didn’t think he’d sell us out on this issue. My rage has me shaking now and I’m done with DemoCorpRATes. What makes you think Obama won’t sell us out in terms of the Supreme Court for some kind of sickening middle ground? I just went over to the Obama website, told them to unsubscribe me and why. I suggest we all do so. He wants to run an internet campaign; well, we can withdraw from that campaign. I’m really thinking Green. What the heck, if we’re going to loose anyway, we might as well loose with folks who are not CorpRATe Whores. Yes, I now include him in that category.”
Oh, I just love it when I get to say, I TOLD YOU SO!!!
The New Democratic Party: Slightly less Evil version of the Republican Party? NOT ANY MORE!
Posted: June 20, 2008 Filed under: Uncategorized | Tags: Constitutional Rights, DNC sellout, GLBT rights, Independent, Lou Dobbs, No Obama, Pelosi Sellout, Progressive Party, Reproductive Rights, Thou Shall Not Steal, Women's Rights 3 CommentsWhat a way to get votes from people! Position yourself as the party of the lesser evils to get votes from people that like their civil rights as the constitution promised.
Women! Vote for us or the Republican Party will set up housekeeping in your uterus! We really don’t do anything EVER about reproductive rights but hey, at least we SAY you have them! Come on! Do you think that all those laws that have been shooting through the legislatures limiting Roe v. Wade could have gotten there without some kind of Democratic passive support? How many Democratics with backbone does it take to filibuster an outrageous supreme court nomination like Alito?
GLBT Community! We may not actually vote you your constitutional rights, but hey, we don’t talk about taking them away from you! A few of us even show up to your parades every now and then!
African Americans!!! Look, here’s a nice corporate candidate for you! Not very qualified, he may set affirmative action back a few centuries, split the party into slivers, but you gotta hand it to us, we put an ‘acceptable’ black man right up there on the ticket for you! (It’s up to you to figure out all that ‘acceptable’ implies and then you can join me under the bus.) Look he’s even vetting a few hispanics for his VP!!! That ought to bring the Hispanic vote into line! And Jewish Americans! Goodness, look at a few of his advisors!!! Some one even wrote his AIPAC speech for him so he could say that unity thing about Jerusalem and irritate the Muslims!
Vote the Party and the Candidate that represents the Lesser Evil! That’s us! 
Well, this year, DNC, you just had to go and step over that line. Tell me how Axelrod is different from Rove other than he’s the DNC brain of a DNC corporate candidate instead of a RNC brain of a RNC corporate candidate? All those subprime guys doing the perp walk yesterday EXCEPT the head of Obama’s finance committe: Penny Pritzker. When does the Pritzker family’s role in the subprime and mortgage backed derivatives market get some attention? Or is it because she donates Democrat instead of Republican that she gets a wave?
I’m getting pretty tired of choosing the lesser of two evils. Frankly, since the DNC RBC pulled their stunt with the Michigan votes and delegates, I can’t tell the difference between the two parties anymore. (Where’s the gray in THOU SHALT NOT STEAL?) Both of them want to rig elections and take votes away from folks and give them to others. Both of them refuse to impeach George Bush and Dick Cheney. Heck, Nancy Pelosi, per RON PAUL’s outing of all folks, just put a huge knife in the back to the anti war wing of the party. How much more proof do you all need?
Ron Paul Exposes Pelosi – Says Iran Bill Spiked
Submitted by SadInAmerica on 2008, June 20 – 3:08am.
http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/2090
Representative Ron Paul says House Speaker Nancy Pelosi removed a section from a bill passed by Congress which would have barred the U.S. from going to war with Iran without a congressional vote, claiming she did so at the behest of the leadership of Israel and AIPAC.
Then there is this interview with Senator Obama who says on his website that during 2005 he supported a time schedule for withdrawal of troops. This interview with him in 2005 implies otherwise.
As for me, I’m joining Lou Dobbs as an independent until somebody resurrects the Bull Moose Party also known as the American Progressive Party. They had REAL women in that party. They carried banners around saying: “THOU SHALT NOT STEAL” because the way the RNC had stolen candidates from Roosevelt and given them to Taft.
http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/life/bullmoose.htm
So, how about it? Let’s throw a few crates of tea into Boston Harbor and bring back the Progressive Party.
I’m tired of supporting EVIL. I can’t choose which one is the lesser, any more
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