Today is the DAY to talk about NOTHING but GUN CONTROL
Posted: December 14, 2012 Filed under: Gun Control 46 CommentsI just got back from making groceries and vodka at Rouses by the Lake. The check out lines were one big conversation about the Elementary School Massacre. Can any one imagine this happening in any other country but ours?
There have been six mass shootings in 2012 and a record number of casualties.
Today’s massacre claimed the lives of 20 children under the age of 10 and 6 teachers.
We must talk about gun control.
A society that can’t come to terms with even, really, talking about gun control in any reasonable way that doesn’t devolve into anger and name-calling and semi-apologies. A society that blames the timing in which we open up these discussions. People who “politicize” such matters, and people who fail to when they should. The shooter himself. The choices are endless and they all get their time in the blame spiral, because it’s really hard to know what to do with all of that dark awfulness. But blame doesn’t really help us cope, not in the long-term, and it certainly doesn’t help us fix things. Just look at the news.
Responding to reports of the Newtown school shooting, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said President Obama is watching the news “as a father” and that there will be a day in which we review the nation’s gun control policy, but “today is not that day.” So when is the right time to talk about gun control, or about gun violence, or about what caused the deaths of, according to the latest reports, more than 18 kids today? Because we keep putting it off, just getting angry at each other, pushing further into our little corners and defending things we think we know: If we feel that gun ownership laws in this country are part of the problem, we say lax gun control clearly led to this horrific event in a town thought by its residents to be “the safest place in America.” If we think people should have the right to own guns with minimal constraints, we say that guns don’t kill people, people kill people. And this is why we have to talk—really talk—about gun control: It’s not deniable that guns make it easier for people who want to kill people in large numbers to do so, and, for the record, the gun used by the suspect, a .223 calibre rifle, is currently legal—though it’s hard to imagine a good purpose for it being legal, the NRA has fought to keep it that way. It’s also undeniable, inherent to their very existence, that guns do make for a shift in any power dynamic: Why would one who defends gun ownership bother to defend his right to own guns unless it did in fact put him in position of control over someone who doesn’t have one, or make him “equal” to someone who does? And yet, sure, having stringent gun control laws—or, in a dream world, no guns at all—doesn’t mean people won’t kill people. It does, however, mean that fewer people will be able to easily acquire guns with which to kill people. How many scenes like today’s photo of bawling children being led to safety do we need before we can come together and say that that would be a good thing, that something really does have to change? If we can’t fix humanity, if we can’t make all people good, can we at least make it harder for people who want to do harm to kill? Can we talk about this without reverting to name-calling and aggression toward each other that a therapist might say stands in for how we feel about this shooter and what he’s done? Can we talk about this now? And if we can’t, why can’t we? Why haven’t we already?
The answer is the NRA and a group of privileged, rich white men who love their toys.
@TheReidReport The conversation I’m hearing today is exactly what it was over 20 years ago. Absolutely nothing has changed, sadly.
How much innocent blood does the NRA need exactly?
How many people will have to die before the NRA and the politicians they control do what most sane people understand has to be done? I have been asking this question for years. Will it be around thirty as appears to be the number in this most recent shooting? Or will it require the massacre of two or three hundred people, or a thousand? Given the right (or rather, wrong) circumstances and the right (wrong) weaponry, this last number is not impossible at all.
What is most tragic about this is that sensible gun legislation WILL happen, it is only a question of how many people have to die before the NRA drags itself into the modern world, and how long it takes the public to insist that politicians bullied into submission by financial pressures that should not exist in a democracy do something about it.
Incredibly, I have already heard people say that this could have been prevented if someone at the school had been armed. What kind of a country do we want to live in? One where teachers are forced to have guns in holsters under their jackets (the least that would be necessary) as they read Thomas the Tank Engine, where the principal has an automatic rifle leaning against his desk? OR a country where these insanely lethal guns are banned?
If it is the former, freedoms far more essential than those guaranteed by the Second Amendment will eventually be lost. Why stop at schools? Shouldn’t every doctor or waiter or ticket seller or bus driver – anyone working in a crowded environment – be forced to carry guns? But do you really want to go to the movies and see a submachine gun leaning against the seat in front of your, or see the guy downing a bottle of wine at the next table, fumble with his pistol? The prospect is terrifying, and in the end would lead to a country living in hiding, ordering life online rather than living it.
I have never met a single person from Europe who feels their freedom is curtailed by not having access to high-powered weaponry designed to kill large numbers of people. I have never met anyone who has lived in a country where the fear of getting shot is almost non-existent who would rather live in a country where they need heavy arms to feel safe, where a civilian arms race is taking place already.
It seems like the victims of spree killers are all asking for something to be done.
Statement from Mark
@ShuttleCDRKelly, husband of former Rep@GabbyGiffords: “As we mourn, we must sound a call for our leaders to stand up..
Exactly where is the “well regulated militia” also mentioned in the second amendment?
CAN we PLEASE TALK GUN CONTROL NOW!?!?!?!
Posted: December 14, 2012 Filed under: Breaking News 84 CommentsIt appears that 27 people–mostly children–are dead this morning from what only can be called a gun massacre. The shooter was a 24 year old white man. The shooting occurred at an Elementary School so the victims are mostly under 10 years old. There is a news conference that is scheduled shortly. The President is being updated. The news conference will include the governor of Connecticut. The community of Newtown is considered a sleepy burb with very little issues.
This is the latest: 26 KILLED, INCLUDING 18 KIDS, IN CONN. SCHOOL SHOOTING: OFFICIAL.
MORE THAN 12 DEAD –including Children–at a middle school shoot out.
More than a dozen people, including children, were killed in a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, Friday morning.
The exact number of deaths is unknown, but officials are speculating that “at least 12” may be a conservative estimate. The shooter, who police say is likely a parent of a student who may have had a confrontation with the principal, is said to be among the fatalities.
Just in case you do not know how I feel about this you can check out my post form the last shoot out that occurred in a public place:
The NRA’s Deadly Legacy: Mass Shootings are “Commonplace” with “Ritualized” Responses.
Just to remind you how common these young white male shoot outs are:
A Guide to Mass Shootings in America
There have been at least 61 in the last 30 years—and most of the killers got their guns legally.
You can listen to local live coverage at the the link to this story at top. The shooter is dead. The shooter was a 20 year old male. Many parents are still unaware of their children’s status.
From CNN:
Children and adults gunned down in Connecticut school massacre
Update: 18 Children dead and 25-27 total dead. The Number is Rising.
From NBC:
At least 24 people were killed, including at least 17 children, when a gunman opened fire in a Connecticut elementary school Friday morning, a law enforcement official said. The alleged gunman, a 20-year-old male, was later found dead at the school.
The incident sent crying children spilling into the school parking lot as frightened parents waited for word on their loved ones.
“I was in the gym and I heard a loud, like seven loud booms, and the gym teachers told us to go in the corner, so we all huddled,” one student at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown told NBC Connecticut during its live broadcast. “And I kept hearing these booming noises. And we all … started crying.
“All the gym teachers told us to go into the office where no one could find us,” she added. “So then a police officer came in and told us to run outside. So we did and we came in the firehouse and waited for our parents.”
Two 9mm handguns were recovered from the scene, an official told WNBC’s Jonathan Dienst.
This post will be updated frequently.
update: One of the Sandy Hook gunmen was a 24-year-old wearing a bulletproof vest and carrying four guns http://slnm.us/Zgklguv
I just texted I love you to both my Eggs with Legs. The thought that you could just drop your kids off at their local elementary school and have some crazy asshole walk in and slaughter them just has me in the Tear Zone. I always thought it likelier to happen to me on a campus. I guess it just goes to show how much guns, anger, testosterone, and right wing angst still rule our country. You have one major political party continually making bad guys out of public schools and teachers and eventually some one feels justified to go off on them.
Friday Reads
Posted: December 14, 2012 Filed under: morning reads | Tags: black sites, Chuck Hagel, extraordinary rendition, greenbean galaxies, Torture, Violence against Native American Women 28 CommentsI thought I’d put up some longer suggested reads today since the news seems to be focused on several items we’ve been covering a lot recently. This first link is from Alternet and features Noam Chomsky and Eric Bailey of Torture Magazine. The discussion talks about our continuing abuse of civil rights and liberties stemming from the War on Terrorism during the Obama administration. Here’s some discussion of US “black sites” which are still in operation today.
Bailey: It has been just over 10 years since the publication of the Bush administration’s “torture memos.” These memos provided a legal justification for the torture of detainees held by the CIA in connection with the “war on terror.” The contents of the memos are chilling and have created new debate on torture internationally. Despite all of the promises given by President Obama to close those illegal detention centers, it seems that “black site” activities still occur. What are your views on these detention centers and CIA torture? Also, what do you think about Obama’s promise of CIA reforms in 2008 and how has the reality of his presidency stacked up to those promises?
Chomsky: There have been some presidential orders expressing disapproval of the most extreme forms of torture, but Bagram remains open and uninspected. That’s probably the worst in Afghanistan. Guantanamo is still open, but it’s unlikely that serious torture is going on at Guantanamo. There is just too much inspection. There are military lawyers present and evidence regularly coming out so I suspect that that’s not a torture chamber any more, but it still is an illegal detention chamber, and Bagram and who knows how many others are still functioning. Rendition doesn’t seem to be continuing at the level that it did, but it has been until very recently.
Rendition is just sending people abroad to be tortured. Actually, that’s barred as well by the Magna Carta – the foundation of Anglo-American law. It’s explicitly barred to send somebody across the seas to be punished and tortured. It’s not just done by the United States, either. It’s done all over Western Europe. Britain has participated in it. Sweden has participated. It’s one of the reasons for a lot of the concerns about extraditing Julian Assange to Sweden. Canada has been implicated as was Ireland, but to Ireland’s credit it was one of the few places where there were mass popular protests against allowing the Shannon Airport to be used for CIA rendition. In most countries there has been very little protest or not a word. I don’t know of any recent cases so maybe that policy is no longer being implemented, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was still in effect.
The Atlantic has a feature on the ‘likely’ new Secretary of Defense. That would be Republican and former Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel.
In 2005, he began criticizing the George W. Bush administration, comparing the worsening Iraq war to Vietnam. When then-Vice President Dick Cheney said the Iraqi insurgency was in its “last throes,” Hagel told CNN, “Maybe the vice president can explain the increase in casualties we’re taking… If that’s winning, then he’s got a different definition of winning than I do.”
Over the next few years, Hagel’s criticism of Bush intensified, and in 2007, he told Esquire:
“The president says, ‘I don’t care.’ He’s not accountable anymore… He’s not accountable anymore, which isn’t totally true. You can impeach him, and before this is over, you might see calls for his impeachment. I don’t know. It depends how this goes.”
Hagel decided not to seek reelection to the Senate in the fall of 2007. In 2008, his name was floated as a potential running mate for Obama. Hagel didn’t endorse a presidential candidate in that election, but he criticized his colleague Sen. John McCain for his hawkish statements on Iran.
There are all kinds of people being caught in the crossfire of GOP intolerance, stupidity, and rejection. Why is the Republican party fighting the Violence Against Women Act? Greg Kaufmann writes on this in The Nation focusing on its impact on Native American women who are unprotected from various kinds of acts of violence. The hope and the bad guy in this story is Congressman Eric Cantor.
On April 25, Parker told of being “one of many girls” violated and attacked as a toddler on the reservation in the 1970s, and how the man responsible was never convicted. She spoke of an occasion in the 1980s, when she hid her younger cousins while listening to the screams of her aunt who was being raped by four or five men—the perpetrators were never prosecuted. She described her realization that “the life of a Native woman was short,” and consequently “fighting hard” to attend the University of Washington, where she studied criminal justice in the 1990s “so that I could be one to protect our women. However, I am only one.” She asked Congress to support the new provisions in VAWA to help protect Native women: “Send a strong message across the country that violence against Native women is unlawful and it is not acceptable in any of our lands.”
It was a turning point in the Senate’s work on the bill. It passed that month with sixty-eight votes, including fifteen Republicans—the kind of bipartisanship that is almost unheard of these days—with the new protections for Native women, and also for undocumented immigrant women and the LGBT community.
But in May the House passed a stripped-down version of the bill that contained none of these key provisions. Only six Democrats voted for it and twenty-three Republicans opposed it. Speaker John Boehner then used a procedural maneuver to avoid reconciling with the Senate on a final VAWA bill. Five House Republicans—led by Illinois Congresswoman Judy Biggert—wrote a letter to Boehner and Majority Leader Eric Cantor urging them to adopt the stronger Senate provisions and move to a final bill.
Yet the legislation languished—until now.
Perhaps sensing from the 2012 election results that the GOP has a serious problem when it comes to relating to women who live on this planet and in this century, Cantor is now negotiating with the Senate and Vice President Biden—who sponsored the original VAWA in 1994. Word is Cantor has relented on the provisions for the LGBT community and undocumented immigrant women. He refuses, however, to consider any provision that gives tribes any kind of criminal jurisdiction over non-Indians.
Native peoples will have to start over from scratch after over three years of work if the bill does not pass within the next few weeks. It is critical that we contact Cantor and appeal to the small dot of a humanity that might reside within him.
Scientists have found glowing, green galaxies that have been dubbed ‘green bean’ galaxies.
I have to say that this is really kewl and the video is worth the watch. Do little green critters come from green bean galaxies?
The galaxy represents a new type, and falls within the range of active galaxies known as Seyfert galaxies. It glows green because of X-rays spewing from a gigantic black hole at its center that weighs several million to billion times more than the sun.
Dubbed a “green bean” galaxy, it appears to be quite rare. Scientists found only about 20 green beans in the vast swath of sky surveyed for this research.
These galaxies will provide a window into the evolution of quasars, which are faraway galaxies powered by massive black holes. [Video: Green Bean Galaxies]
“These things are light echoes,” said Mischa Schirmer, the lead researcher of a paper reporting the findings released today (Dec. 5) and accepted for publication in the Astrophysical Journal. “What we see is a quasar that is shutting down,” Schirmer said. “It hasn’t shut down entirely yet.”
A southern California judge has admonished a raped woman for permitting the rape by not struggling enough. Judge Derek Johnson told the victim that “If Sex Isn’t Wanted, Body ‘Will Not Permit That To Happen”. Where the hell do these men come from and how do they get to these positions of power? It just appalls me that over 40 years of activism has not gotten rid of the blame the victim attitude of so many morons.
A Southern California judge is being publicly admonished for saying a rape victim didn’t put up a fight during her assault and that if someone doesn’t want sexual intercourse, the body “will not permit that to happen.”
The California Commission on Judicial Performance issued a report Thursday saying Superior Court Judge Derek Johnson’s comments were inappropriate and a breach of judicial ethics.
Johnson is a former prosecutor in the Orange County district attorney’s sex crimes unit. He issued an apology saying he was frustrated with a prosecutor during an argument in 2008 over the sentencing in the case before him compared to other more aggravated cases.
The case involved a man who threatened to mutilate the face and genitals of his ex-girlfriend with a heated screwdriver before committing rape, forced oral copulation, and other crimes.
I guess Governor Bobby Jindal isn’t getting the attention he wants these days . He’s called for making birth control available over the counter in a WSJ interview. Will the governor be getting a tweet from the Pope on that?
Jindal cites a December committee opinion from the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists which comes out in favor of over-the-counter birth control “to improve contraceptive access and use and possibly decrease unintended pregnancy rates.”
Although the op-ed might seen like a shift to the left for the Catholic governor, Jindal also reiterated his conservative reasoning behind his support for the issue.
First, he made clear if birth control was more readily available, employers currently mandated to provide it under President Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act would not need to do so.
This argument most clearly is geared toward religiously-affiliated employers who have come out against providing birth control against Church doctrine.
Second, he touts the impact it could have on the individual buyers, saying “it’s time to put purchasing power back in the hands of consumers.”
Finally, he said if birth control is available over-the-counter, this would put an end to the politicization of the issue.
“Contraception is a personal matter — the government shouldn’t be in the business of banning it or requiring a woman’s employer to keep tabs on her use of it.”
Guess we’ll have to see how that goes over with the Right to Forced Servitude Crowd. Meanwhile, I’m getting ready for the mass insanity that will come shortly as we host the Super Bowl. I’m just really glad I don’t work down town any more. However, I think I’m going to go back to gigging during the time because those folks do like to eat out and tip big. I’m just hoping we get a few teams from the rich part of the country. Who do I root for? The Pats?
So, that’s my suggested reads today. What’s on your reading and blogging list?
The Rice Melodrama
Posted: December 13, 2012 Filed under: Foreign Affairs | Tags: Susan Rice 45 CommentsI’ve been searching for some good, definitive articles on Susan Rice since she’s one of those individuals that’s had notoriety thrust upon her by a group of disgruntled
Republican losers. I state this as no Susan Rice fan. She rubbed me the wrong way through out the 2008 election season. Still, I’m not into witch hunts and it certainly seemed like she’s been the proxy witch of the moment. Here’s a great article at TDB from 3 days ago that talks how Susan Rice typifies what’s historically been problematic about democrats and their reputation as foreign policy lightweights. This goes further back than Benghazi and have to do with her waltz around the Iraq issue.
It’s not true, as some left-wing websites claim, that Rice “was a cheerleader for Bush’s invasion of Iraq.” But if, as Rice herself claims, she supported Obama in 2008 because on Iraq he made “the same unpopular choice I had made,” the evidence is hard to find. In fact, what’s striking about the four NPR interviews Rice did in the run-up to war was her capacity to avoid taking a clear position one way or another. At times, Rice does indeed sound skeptical of military action. In November 2002, she warned that there are “many people who think that we haven’t finished the war against al Qaeda and our ability to do these simultaneously is in doubt.” In December, she urged a “more honest assessment of what the costs will be of the actual conflict, as well as the aftermath.” And the following February, she said that “there are many who fear that going to war against Iraq may in fact in the short term make us less secure rather than more secure.”
But at others times, Rice sounded more hawkish, declaring on Dec. 20, 2002 that “it’s clear that Iraq poses a major threat. It’s clear that its weapons of mass destruction need to be dealt with forcefully and that’s the path we’re on and hopefully we’ll bring as many countries as possible with us … even as we move forward as we must on the military side.”
Unable to decipher Rice’s view from these NPR interviews, I called two colleagues who worked with her at the Brookings Institution at the time. Neither was sure if she had supported the war or not.
How could a rising foreign-policy star like Susan Rice, faced with the most controversial foreign-policy issue of her career, avoid taking a clear position? Because avoiding controversial positions is what Democratic foreign-policy elites do. When the GOP holds the White House, and would-be Democratic foreign-policy appointees park themselves at places like Brookings or the Council on Foreign Relations, their primary imperative is to make sure they don’t say anything that would keep them from leaving those halfway houses when their party takes power again.
But in another way, this is completely typical Obama – ruthless, pragmatic, cold-blooded. He took a look at the lay of the land in the Senate; decided that he had no appetite for a bruising confirmation battle in the midst of what is shaping to be a fierce fight over the fiscal cliff, and decided instead to push Rice over the edge.
In fairness, Rice didn’t give him a great deal of wiggle-room to work with. Since Obama’s stout defense of his UN ambassador, her reputation took hit after hit – and it wasn’t just over Benghazi. Rice and her allies appeared incapable of mounting an effective PR campaign on her behalf.
There has been a steady stream of news stories that have poked holes at Rice’s qualifications for the top diplomatic job. First, there was this Roger Cohen op-ed in the New York Times, which quoted former UN Ambassador Thomas Pickering criticizing her conduct as US assistant secretary for African affairs. Pickering is as highly respected a foreign service officer as you will find in Washington: for him to come out and publicly question her judgment was an eyebrow-raising move.
Since then, there have been more stories: about Rice’s former work at the consulting firm Stonebridge on behalf of Rwandan strongman Paul Kagame; about her financial dealings and potential conflict of interest over the Keystone XL pipeline; and a devastating Daily Beast article about her supposedly suspect diplomatic “temperament”.
Here again, Rice did little to help herself by getting in an undiplomatic contretemps this week with the usually mild-mannered Chinese ambassador to the United Nations. Nonetheless, it was striking how many people were willing to make disparaging comments, off the record, about Rice – a clear sign that it wasn’t just John McCain who didn’t want to see her get secretary of state.
Put all of this together and it raised legitimate questions about Rice’s suitability for the job. None of this is to say that – had Obama fought for her – she wouldn’t have won approval. It’s quite possible she would have gotten through the Senate hearing, but at what cost – both to herself and to the Obama administration?
Instead of waging that fight, Obama cut his losses.
However, is this something that ultimately makes the re-elected President appear weak because he basically caved to hapless loser, John McCain?
After McCain’s first assault on Rice, Obama came to her defense, calling the assault on her character “outrageous” and inviting McCain and the others to come after him. Only a few other Republicans rallied behind McCain. It seemed that Rice, if nominated, would be confirmed with a healthy margin, albeit after some struggle.
But then McCain pulled a very clever gambit, announcing publicly that he would seek a chair on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee (while retaining his status as top Republican on the Armed Services Committee). This would give him a direct role in the interrogation and confirmation of Rice or any other nominee for secretary of state and, indeed, the entire tier of assistant secretaries and undersecretaries. It would also allow him to request hearings and to call the secretary as a witness on any number of topics that he and his Republican colleagues might wish to investigate. He could be a constant thorn in the administration’s side on an issue—foreign policy, broadly speaking—that presidents are usually allowed to pursue with great leeway and that this president has pursued with success and high ratings.
In the end, with all the other fights Obama has on his hands in his second term, this one didn’t seem worth the struggle. As Rice herself put it in a letter released this afternoon, “I am now convinced that the confirmation process would be lengthy, disruptive and costly—to you and to our most pressing national and international priorities. … Therefore, I respectfully request that you no longer consider my candidacy at this time.”
A White House spokesman said in an email this afternoon that McCain’s attacks had nothing to do with Rice’s decision. A spokesman on McCain’s staff said in a phone conversation that Rice’s pending nomination had nothing to do with his decision to seek a seat on the Foreign Relations Committee. Both statements deserve a cocked eyebrow.
It’s obvious this was turning into a political dick size campaign from several vantage points. Primarily, the several times the President clearly indicated that the fight was him and his statements defending Rice. Does the proverbial falling on your sword movie really create a solution for the President?
After a series of strikingly unsuccessful meetings on Capitol Hill in which she failed to impress even moderate Republicans such as Susan Collins of Maine, Rice also found herself facing resistance from foreign-policy elites who questioned her temperament and her record. In addition, human-rights critics were up in arms over her behavior toward African dictators, particularly her role in allegedly holding up publication of a U.N. report that concluded the government of Rwandan President Paul Kagame, with whom she has a long and close relationship, was supplying and financing a brutal Congolese rebel force known as the M23 Movement.
That may have been the tipping point, though an official on Rice’s team declined to say so. As she put it herself in her letter to Obama, the president had some other “pressing national international priorities.… It is far more important that we devote precious legislative hours and energy to enacting your core goals, including comprehensive immigration reform, balanced deficit reduction, job creation, and maintaining a robust national defense and effective U.S. global leadership.”
In other words, the Obama team was quickly coming to realize that, even though it appeared he had considerable leverage over the Republicans following a more-robust-than-thought reelection victory, a Rice nomination was simply going to cost him too much political capital, especially when it came to a long-term budget deal.
Whatever the deal, the optics are not good. This makes a set of Republican Senators look petty. It also does not help the Republican cause with blacks or women. It doesn’t play well into any story of an Obama fighting for his people or beliefs. Again, I’m not a Susan Rice fan but none of these optics sit well with me.
Where’s the Beef?
Posted: December 13, 2012 Filed under: 2012 elections, Fiscal Cliff, U.S. Economy, U.S. Politics | Tags: Economists, fiscal cliff, Paul Krugman 54 CommentsYup, Clara’s question is still germane.
I have a more earthy version of this having do to with lies and morons when I continue to watch the media cover the “fiscal cliff”. The coverage is singularly lacking substance and Media Matters shows us why in a study that shows that “Economists – And Economics – Absent From Media Coverage Of Debt Debate”. Journalists continue to bring politicians in to discuss the politics of the fiscal cliff in a complete vacuum of facts, data, economic theory, and reality or economic perspective. Why are economists absent from the discussion?
A Media Matters study found that economists have been strangely absent from discussions on budget negotiations, following a typical pattern of the media’s inability to host experts to discuss complex issues. This lack of expert analysis has steered the debate toward politics and away from core economic concerns.
In a recently published study of news segments discussing current budget negotiations, Media Matters found that the presence of economists was sorely lacking – out of 503 total guests in the 337 segments analyzed, only 22 were economists. The lack of appearances by economists is spread across all networks …
I’ve watched a lot of the coverage and there are a lot of things coming out of the mouths of people making these decisions that would never come out of the mouth of an economist whatever their voter affiliation. But let me start with one thing that strikes me as really, really, really obscene. The Republican mantra of “Increased Taxes Kill Jobs” is old school Keynes. I mean REAL old school Keynesian economics because the old Keynes model shows us that increasing taxes or decreasing government spending is contractionary fiscal policy. So, why hasn’t any moderator of bloviating pols mentioned this or asked about this as Republicans rant on about the evilness of Keynesian economics?
NeoKeynesians have discovered a lot about the subtleties of the impact of changes in tax rates or government spending since that first bit of insight came from the Keynesian models back in the day. Those subtleties are present in the studies you read that show that changing tax rates for the rich has a different impact that changing tax rates for others. It also has been determined that some government spending is more effective in a variety of ways than others. However, the point remains. That Republican talking point is actually quite old school Keynesian so why doesn’t one Media person ask them why they hate Keynes and say that continually? Is it because they’ve bought into the idea that tax cuts only should be discussed in terms of the republicans adherence to the dismissed Laffer Curve and hypothesis? Where are the economists that can actually ask these questions? There’s plenty of us out there writing, tweeting, blogging, and facebooking? Why not ask one of us?
Previous studies by Media Matters have noted that the lack of economists’ input helps spread conservative misinformation, leaving a substantial impact on public opinion. The most recent study, however, shows that keeping economists out of the debate also eliminates any discussion of economic issues.
One such issue is the so-called “fiscal cliff,” a combination of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that, according to the Congressional Budget Office, could plunge the U.S. economy into recession in 2013.
However, of the 337 segments analyzed, 209 — 62 percent — failed to address the macroeconomic implications of either tax increases or spending cuts. While some microeconomic issues were discussed (such as the potential impact on healthcare costs), most of the segments were focused on largely non-economic issues, such as political leverage in negotiations, the Grover Norquist pledge, or concessions made by the two parties.
Meanwhile, economists have not been silent on the economic consequences of current budget negotiations. A recent International Monetary Fund study found that for every dollar decrease in government spending, the U.S. would experience as much as a $1.80 decrease in output. Conversely, the Congressional Budget Office noted that if Bush-era tax rates expired for high-income earners, negative effects on economic output would be negligible.
Given the fact that cutting spending and raising taxes are both large components of the so-called “fiscal cliff,” highlighting these findings when discussing budget negotiations would help inform viewers of the real economic stakes. Instead, the media have taken the economics out of a largely economic issue.
Not even Greg Mankiw would risk his reputation in the academic community spreading the lies that get put out there about the economy by Republican Politicians. Chief among the lies are the kinda crap we saw coming from the Republicans. There are all these completely untrue economic lies running around out there. It’s all surrounding ideological things the Republicans are still trying to accomplish. Social Security has nothing to do with the Federal deficit. It’s not going bankrupt. Raising the age of social security and medicare does not solve any economic problems and does not save money. It just costs shifts things to different programs and sectors of government. Higher marginal tax rates on the rich does not kill jobs. Lower marginal tax rates on the rich does not create jobs. Special tax treatment for speculative investment behavior destabilizes financial markets. Regulation of Financial Markets improves their outcomes. There is not a structural deficit problem. There is a cyclical problem that would be solved if real stimulus of the economy occurred. I could go on and on and on and have written extensively on this citing study after study and economic expert after economic expert.
Nobel prize winning Paul Krugman’s facts get attacked as polemics by a political operative on Sunday TV. This is the reality of our public discussion on the most important issues of our time. Krugman is frequently out there on his own. He’s always trying to argue from a fact based, scientific method based, reality gets to argue with pols. Why can’t the media bring on more economists and let us see a real discussion of facts and theories? We have so much obvious data sitting right in front of us. The UK’s recession is a great example. The UK with its conservatives and austerity package has the worst economy in the west right now. It’s due to those policies the Republicans want to enact here being enacted by Tories there. Both Europe and the US are in much better situations–albeit still stale because of the lack of true fiscal stimulus–because they’ve not completely done the austerity thing. He points out that Ben Bernanke and the overly conservative Fed appears to be the only grown up institution in the beltway these days.
Along with its new policy pronouncement, the Fed released its economic projections (pdf). What struck me is that the Fed expects the unemployment rate to be well above its long-run level even in the fourth quarter of 2015, which is as far as its projections go.
This means that the Fed is projecting elevated unemployment nine full years after the Great Recession started. And, of course, the Fed has been consistently over-optimistic.
This is an awesome failure of policy — not solely at the Fed, of course.When I wax caustic about Very Serious People, bear this in mind. Faced with an economic crisis where textbook macroeconomics told us exactly how to respond, people of influence chose instead to obsess over budget deficits and generally punt on employment; and the result has been a huge economic and human disaster.
So much of this is disheartening to me. However, the most disheartening thing is waking up every day for the last 4 years or so realizing that an entire political organization–one of the two in our duopoly–doesn’t care about anything but getting its way. Every day it becomes more obvious that Republicans are not about our country, our country’s economy, or our people. That kind of psychopathy should be punished severely. Over and over they’ve shown they will absolutely tank our economy for their donor base.
But, again, how will the majority of people know this if they’re only allowed political discussion that continually presents lies, ideology, and out and out crap as an ‘alternative’ viewpoint?








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