Lazy Caturday Reads: Gaetz-Gate Rolls On

Good Morning!!

4be4ba377c642325de4b3961866a1671The Matt Gaetz scandal keeps getting worse. It appears that his pal Joel Greenberg–who is already in deep trouble–is in the process of throwing Gaetz under the bus. I admit, I’m really enjoying watching this Trumpist creep go down in flames. Here’s the latest:

This is from the Daily Mail, so take it with a grain of salt: 

Rep Matt Gaetz is expected to be indicted within the next few weeks as former Florida official and friend Joel Greenberg is believed to have turned on the congressman in the sex trafficking investigation against him, a source close to the probe tells

Greenberg, who was elected Seminole County Tax Collector in 2016, is currently in jail awaiting trial after being slapped with a string of charges last year including sex trafficking a minor between the age of 14 and 17. 

Earlier this week Gaetz was revealed to be under investigation for allegedly engaging in a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old – who on Thursday was reported to be the same girl Greenberg is accused of sex trafficking, according to The New York Times.

The Florida Republican, 38, has furiously denied the allegations, instead insisting they are part of an alleged $25million extortion plot led by former Justice Department official David McGee. 

But sources familiar with the matter say Gaetz’s claims are just an attempt to divert attention from his connection to the Greenberg case as the investigation closes in on him.

‘The congressman impugned and damaged the reputation of someone who had nothing to do with this,’ the source told 

‘Gaetz is a sleaze-bag who used a professional with a sterling reputation to divert the attention on a sex investigation focused on him.

‘Rest assured that Greenberg has been singing to the feds about his friend Matt Gaetz. That’s why Matt is so freaked out,’ the source added. 

Gaetz’s arrest is said to be imminent after the alleged victim, who has not been named, testified before a Florida grand jury this week saying she had sex with the conservative Republican before she turned 18, has learned.

3b517759d6411a674e2ef8f167255ddeFrom The Daily Beast, background on Joel Greenberg: The Strange Friendship That May Bring Down Matt Gaetz.

As The Daily Beast reported on Friday, it was text messages about Gaetz and Greenberg’s off-hours trips to a government office that alerted investigators to the congressman’s involvement in alleged crimes—and eventually led them to what they determined to be a criminal sex ring….

Like Gaetz, Greenberg is the son of a wealthy local businessman. Dr. Andrew Greenberg co-founded a dental company with 92 offices across the state. Joel, who holds a stake in that company, went on to establish his own advertising agency, DG3. For a time, he also hosted “The Joel Greenberg Show,” a sports-themed talk radio show on WRSO 810 AM. He sold the ad company in 2015 and ran the next year for Seminole County tax collector, defeating the 78-year-old who had held the office since 1988.

Once in office, Greenberg immediately took outlandish steps for what should have been a low-profile and boring job. He moved the agency out of its rent-free government offices. He hired his friends. He handed out questionable contracts to longtime associates. He used his tax collector “badge” to pose as law enforcement and pull over a speeder. He even tried to get some tax employees to carry guns.

But it was another type of alleged abuse of power that would eventually rope in his friend, Matt Gaetz.

Greenberg, whose government agency was tasked with shredding expired drivers licenses, was illegally creating fake IDs, according to investigators. And Gaetz was with him when the pair was caught on surveillance footage visiting the Lake Mary branch of the tax collector’s office on a weekend in April 2018, according to several people with knowledge of the incident.

There are many more details about these two frat boy creeps at the link above.

0a9c012670fcbe964c0c63118642f8c1Gaetz’s Congressional colleagues are apparently rooting for his political destruction. HuffPost: CNN’s Dana Bash ‘Can’t Repeat’ What GOP Lawmakers Are Texting Her About Matt Gaetz.

CNN’s chief political correspondent Dana Bash on Friday indicated how some Republicans are currently feeling toward embattled Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.).

“New Day” anchor John Avlon observed that Republicans are hardly rallying to defend the Donald Trump sycophant, who is under investigation for alleged sexual misconduct with a 17-year-old girl. Gaetz denies the allegations.

“If you could see my text messages from some of his current and former colleagues, I actually can’t repeat what some of them say on morning television,” claimed Bash.

“It’s because he has not made himself popular with most of his colleagues,” she continued. “Again, we’re talking about his fellow Republicans, John. We’re talking about people who he has antagonized in the name of being … as beholden and as loyal to the former president, Donald Trump, as possible. In the name of being on conservative media, being on Fox News. Being the darling of that.”

The former occupant of the White House isn’t helping Gaetz either. The Daily Beast: Trump Isn’t Coming to Matt Gaetz’s Rescue—for Now.

In the days following revelations about the federal investigation into Rep. Matt Gaetz’s alleged sexual relationship with a 17-year-old girl, advisers to Donald Trump have consistently offered him a simple message: Please, please keep your mouth shut.

According to two people familiar with the matter, the twice-impeached former president has closely been monitoring the scandal engulfing one of his favorite allies on Capitol Hill. The ex-president has, in his typical fashion, casually quizzed several confidants about what they think of the situation and if there’s anything that he should do about it.

But multiple people close to Trump have flatly advised him to stay out of it—refrain from publicly defending Gaetz, they are telling him, at least for the time being.

The two sources said that, in all of the conversations they’re aware of, Trump has appeared to ultimately agree with the recommendations to keep quiet. One of the sources added that the former president has lamented that the whole thing seems “really bad” for Gaetz, while also mentioning that the allegations could be a “smear” against the Trump uber-loyalist.

More Gaetz stories, posted today:

From Arwa Mahdawi at The Guardian:  The sleazy Matt Gaetz saga grows ever more disturbing.

fd374d1a68557b9494dc445521fad52cThe Matt Gaetz story increasingly reads like a script written by a pervert high on a cocktail of ADHD meds and MDMA. Even if you’ve been following the scandal-prone Republican congressman’s latest controversy closely it’s hard to keep track of what on earth is happening….

While the allegations against Gaetz are still being investigated, it’s worth noting that Gaetz has faced accusations of disturbing sexual conduct before. In January 2020 Chris Latvala, a Republican congressman, tweeted that Gaetz “created a game where members of the FL House got ‘points’ for sleeping with aides, interns, lobbyists, and married legislators”. Gaetz also reportedly bragged of his sexual exploits and showed other lawmakers nude photos of women he’d slept with. According to CNN, he showed his colleagues these photos while he was at work. Gaetz, by the way, was also the only lawmaker to vote against a bipartisan anti human-trafficking bill. A number of his colleagues have also spoken out about “love of alcohol and illegal drugs, as well as his proclivity for younger women”.

I don’t know exactly what Gaetz has or hasn’t done, but I do know he’s spent his career reveling in scandal rather than actually doing his job. He even joked with Elon Musk last week about how a scandal involving him would be called GaetzGate. The fact that this guy is a sitting member of Congress boggles the mind. It shows just how low we set the bar for our (male) politicians.

The Washington Post: Gaetz is said to have boasted of his ‘access to women’ provided by friend charged in sex-trafficking case.

Rep. Matt Gaetz repeatedly boasted to people involved in Florida politics about women he met through a county tax collector who has since been charged by federal authorities with sex trafficking of a minor, according to two people who heard his comments directly.

They said the Republican congressman, first elected in 2016, also showed them videos on his phone of naked or topless women on multiple occasions, including at parties with Joel Greenberg, the former tax collector for Seminole County. The women appeared to be adults, and could be seen dancing, hanging out by a pool and, in one case, using a hula hoop without clothing, the people said.

“Matt was never shy about talking about his relationship to Joel and the access to women that Joel provided him,” said one of these people who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to be candid. “What these videos implied was that there was something of a sexual nature going on with everyone.” [….]

Federal law enforcement officials suspect that Greenberg procured a number of women for Gaetz and are exploring whether they sometimes shared sexual partners, including at least one girl who was 17 years old at the time of the alleged encounter, a person familiar with the matter said.

In addition to the charge of child sex trafficking, Greenberg faces a host of other allegations. He has pleaded not guilty and is scheduled to go on trial this summer. His attorney declined to comment.

d2d9a1a9fb175ffd3741170bd00117c8Gaetz is suspected of patronizing websites that allow men to set up dates with women in exchange for dinners or hotel stays, a person familiar with the matter said. It is not a crime to use such services unless money is exchanged explicitly for sex. Investigators have obtained witness testimony and other evidence suggesting Gaetz did so, a person familiar with the matter said. Some of that evidence was first reported by the New York Times.

Investigators also are exploring allegations that Gaetz and others used illegal drugs during some of their encounters with women, a person familiar with the matter said.

28 Comments on “Lazy Caturday Reads: Gaetz-Gate Rolls On”

  1. bostonboomer says:

    • djmm says:

      That is terrible.

      The police indicate he was armed. Perhaps the parents can agree with the release of the body cams. If he truly was armed, what was he doing with a gun?

      It does happen these days. In CO, a young mother, Pamela Cabriales, was just murdered by a 14 year old with an AR15 and a very long rap sheet. At 14. She was just going home in her car and drove past him. He and his friends were strangers to her.

      • quixote says:

        One of the creepiest minor scenes in Fahrenheit 451 was somebody who gets killed walking along a highway by a bunch of guys in a car just having “fun.”

        I guess we’re there? :boggle:

        • NW Luna says:

          We’ve been there for quite a while.

          • djmm says:

            The Washington Post has an article about the death of Mohammed Anwar, 66 and working as an Uber Eats driver, in a car jacking. He died when two teen age girls stole his car, hanging onto the car door. (OF course, it is safer to let car thieves have the car, but it was his livelihood.) The girls crashed the car:

            “Two young girls jumped from the crashed vehicle, and one of them was in seeming panic: “My phone is in there!”

            “The two girls, ages 13 and 15, had just allegedly used a stun device in their botched carjacking attempt, a man was lying broken before them on the ground — and their concern was retrieving a cellphone.”

            Girls, ages 13 and 15, with a stun gun. Girls 13 and 15 who think the best thing they can do with their time is to steal a car — and who have now killed a man. Where are we as a culture when we are bringing up children like this? (Not ignoring the parents’ responsibilities or that of the girls themselves, but we have a culture that prioritizes money and, in some aspects, celebrates crime.)

            Then there is the fact that a man that age and many others like him have to work gig jobs that do not even pay minimum wage to make ends meet, with no benefits.

  2. dakinikat says:

    Did you see Gaetz and the other guy called up a young Muslim Florida Congresswoman and basically propositioned her?

    I saw this interview with her yesterday and just about wanted to raise funds for her.

    Regarding a voicemail from Matt Gaetz and Joel Greenberg, Rep. Anna Eskamani says she ‘absolutely got the feeling that it was very much an attempt at an intimate conversation.’ Eskamani also says “I always tried to keep a distance between us, but there was a lot of pushy behavior … I think it’s important for women, women in politics to share their stories.”

    Cute kids with kitties pix!

    • NW Luna says:

      And what about all the other males in Congress that Gaetz is showing photos to? They’re complicit.

  3. Beata says:

    The MIT grad who runs the “sugar babies” website used by Gaetz says love is a concept invented by poor people.

    I’m speechless. I have no words. If I could post YouTube videos ( I can’t ), I would post John Prine’s classic “Some Humans Ain’t Human”.

    • Enheduanna says:

      His parents must be so proud. These guys are all sociopaths.

    • quixote says:

      (Let’s see if this works, re posting Prine video)

      • Beata says:

        Thank you, Q.

        Prine died April 7, 2020 from Covid-19. Almost exactly a year ago.

        • dakinikat says:

          Yup. I’ve been playing him endlessly.

        • dakinikat says:

          Have you heard the song he won the grammy for this year? It’s incredible!!!

          • Beata says:

            Yes,”I Remember Everything”. Hauntingly beautiful song. I can’t listen to it without tearing up.

          • Beata says:

            In Prine’s song “Paradise”, he sings “When I die, let my ashes float down the Green River” (in Kentucky). Half of his ashes did float down that river, in the area where his daddy and mama were from originally. The rest of his ashes were buried with his parents in Chicago.

    • quixote says:

      There’s been social acceptance of treating women like meat for a couple of decades now (and before that, minus a gap of a few decades until technology caught up, for millenia). And now more and more men don’t seem to see women as human at all.

      Meanwhile, sociologists have heavy thinking faces about whether there could possibly be a connection between hate-porn and the tidal wave of contempt for women.

      • NW Luna says:

        A connection? Gee, imagine that. The apparent acceptance of strangling and assault as merely ‘rough sex’ is hideous.

      • dakinikat says:

        Having Children isn’t a neccessary asset any more and in many ways they are huge financial liabilities with no guaranteed payback and many many men are simply transactional about relationships. So, if you’re a manbaby that really doesn’t think a child or an heir isn’t very monetizable then you’re not going to see a woman as anything but a cast away thing for pleasure or momentary whatever. I can always tell when men are attached to porn. There’s an aspect to them that’s removed the idea the woman isn’t probably excited or aroused or even enjoying what happens to women in porn movies. I think it’s likely that the more violent versions of it–readily available to them on the dark web–probably warps this even further.

        The more I age the more I see men seek women out it’s because they want to makesure they have a caregiver more than anything. There’s some really sick modern problems now attaching themselves to new stereotypes.

  4. NW Luna says:

  5. dakinikat says:

    WTF is wrong with these people? I haven’t been christian for decades but remember what I was taught in Sunday School and it wasn’t to sit around and say things like this:

    • dakinikat says:

      And coincidentally this followed close behind the tweet of hate above …

      If you wish to experience peace, provide peace for another. If you wish to know that you are safe, cause another to know that they are safe. If you wish to better understand seemingly incomprehensible things, help another to better understand. If you wish to heal your own sadness or anger, seek to heal the sadness or anger of another.
      – 14th Dalai Lama

      quoted in the book “Forgiveness: Breaking the Chain of Hate”

  6. NW Luna says:

    Another furry cute kitties palate cleanser for Caturday, because the news has been so awful.

  7. Minkoff Minx says:

    Holy shit, this Gaetz “situation” is something that ballooned in the past few days.