Tuesday Night Live Blog: VeepStakes Debate!
Posted: October 4, 2016 Filed under: 2016 elections, Live, Live Blog | Tags: 2016 Vice Presidential Debate, live blog, Mike Pence, Tim Kaine 100 Comments
Good Evening!
The Vice Presidential Debate 2016 is at 8:00 PM – 9:30 PM (CT) on
Tuesday, October 4
The 2016 Vice Presidential candidate Debate is live tonight from Longwood University in Virginia. It’s an interesting place for the debate for several reasons. Coincidentally, Virginia is Tim Kaine’s home state. Also, Farmville–the small town that’s home to Longwood–has a history of racial tensions in a campaign year full of them.
Across the nation, race has flared again as a dominant political issue. From Black Lives Matter and violence between police and people of color to campus demonstrations, neighborhood riots and the rise of white supremacists in mainstream politics, this has been a tense and divisive campaign season.
When America focuses on Farmville this week, it will find a town that has struggled more than most to come to grips with race. It hasn’t always worked. Though the county is 64 percent white, the public schools are only about 37 percent white. Many white students still attend the private school that opened after desegregation.
But some believe there is a lesson in the effort made by town leaders and the university to confront the worst aspects of the past.
Farmville is “the scene of where leadership has been forged in reconciliation,” Longwood President Taylor Reveley IV said. “That is a powerful concept for the country today as we are wrestling with issues that are very familiar from the past, especially from the civil rights movement.”
Both the Kaines and the Clinton have spent a good portion of their public life in support of civil rights. Trump and Pence, of course, are fairly well known for just the opposite. There clearly could be some questions that pop up that reflect those differences.
Here’s some information on the debate to as we gear up for our watch party!
Both candidates have a mission as they take the stage Tuesday night: to make the case for their running mates, and to avoid any major missteps that could take their campaigns off-course. Pence needs to show stability for a ticket that has been rattled by Trump’s debate performance and an explosive story about Donald Trump’s taxes, while Kaine will look to extend Hillary Clinton’s newfound momentum and make an effective argument on her behalf.
You can watch the debate on CSpan and any of the major news networks. You can also live stream it.
The first and only vice presidential debate of this election season is tonight at 9pm ET, 6pm PT. And if you don’t have cable there are plenty of different ways to watch Trump’s running mate Mike Pence and Clinton’s running mate Tim Kaine square off. Kaine, of course, is perhaps best known as the lead singer of the band Future Islands. And you can’t convince me that it’s not the same guy.
If you’re watching on a computer, one of the easiest ways to watch is on YouTube. PBS Newshour has a livestream that starts at 8:30pm ET, 5:30pm PT, but seriously have you ever seen Tim Kaine and Future Islands lead singer Samuel T. Herring in the same room together? I didn’t think so.
If you have a cable subscription but want to watch CNN on your devices you can watch CNN Go on your iPhone or iPad, Android, and Windows Phone. You can also use the CNN mobile apps for Kindle Fire and Windows 10. Or you can watch using the CNN app for Apple TV and Roku.
There are a lot of topics that could come up tonight! Here’s some analysis from MoJo’s Hannah Levintova.
In this case, after Donald Trump lost his first presidential debate—in which hesniffed often, spoke in incomplete sentences, lied, and ranted about his “winning temperament”—many conservatives have expressed concern about his lack of focus and debate preparation. It will be up to Pence to restore their faith in Trump. Kaine will have to match Hillary Clinton’s strong first debate performance while defending her against the Trump campaign’s tried-and-true attack lines, including her shifting stance on the Trans-Pacific Partnership and her husband’s role in enacting the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).
So, hold on here we go!!!
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Sigh. The media really drives me nuts.
The coverage has started and the candidates are in the building. I’m going to switch to C-SPAN again.
I expect Kaine to do very well, at least as compared to Pence. Nothing about Pence impresses me, certainly not his far Right positions, and actions as governor. I’m sure he is going to spend most of his time attacking Hillary in the usual distorted way. Kaine, the former defense attorney, should be able to handle that; and it is important for him to stand up strong for Hillary, as I am confident he will do. I hope that global warming comes up, because I don’t think that enough people realize how the candidates differ on this. I saw a poll showing that fully half of millennials think that Clinton and Trump have no difference in their positions, which is ludicrous. Not to exploit the impending disaster with the hurricane, but these events are undoubtedly influenced to some extent by climate change, as scientists had predicted. Let’s show people how completely out of touch with actual reality the Republicans are.
A lot is going to depend on the questions and the people asking.
I’m here!
Hi!!!
Just one comment on the TIPP: it is President Obama who is supporting it, and who would sign the bill if it passes in the lame duck session, with mostly Republican votes. I have no idea why Hillary keeps getting attacked for TIPP. If it passes and Obama signs it, how is this Hillary’s fault? If it doesn’t pass, or somehow doesn’t get voted on, Hillary is against it. That is why the Republicans will try very hard to pass it. And Pence would have voted for it, too, beyond doubt. And finally, I don’t believe for a moment that “bad trade deals” are a major cause of lost jobs, not compared to the outsourcing, the mergers, robotics, etc. Today I walked into my Chase Bank, where they used to have six tellers at a time, and there were two, with about eight people waiting in line. Where did all the teller jobs go?
Truthfully, I’m hoping it does pass in the lame duck. They are attacking Hillary for it because of Bernie’s obsession with it.
I agree on both points.
I’m here and ready, express yourself sky dancers!
Howdee!!
Hello Sky Dancers! I’m going to hang for as long as I can tonight. I’m convalescing after ankle surgery on Friday and I’m on a steady stream of pain meds so I tend to doze a lot. Pretty excited about the debate being held at Longwood U., my daughter’s alma mater for her undergrad degree. It’s such a beautiful campus and a really great school. The debate being held there is such great publicity for the school. I’d rather that than a football bowl game (Longwood doesn’t even have a football team) but that’s just me.
I’m thinking the Republicans are going to end up looking pretty good after tonight. Not because Kaine will lose, but because the Trump/Clinton debate was such a catastrophe for them so as long as Pence doesn’t get coked up and ramble like a lunatic, this one will make the Republicans look better.
Hope you’re feeling good!
Yes. Hate that I have to be doped up all the time but doc says it’s important to stay ahead of the pain. She cut into bone, wedge it in a another place and screwed it down tight so I need to stay on schedule with my meds. Can’t wait until it’s all behind me.
Joy Reid is the only person who can talk over tweety’s babbling. I so love her.
I noticed that too.
I love and respect Joy Reid so much. She is excellent.
I hope they load up on ballots!
Some things about Elaine Q the moderator. She’s Asian American for one!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/04/5-things-to-know-about-vice-presidential-debate-moderator-elaine-quijano/?postshare=6441475628913286&tid=ss_tw
Elaine jumping right to it, no opening statements. But Kaine is giving an opening statement anyway.
Pence says the economy has been stifled by taxes.
He is such a sourpuss.
Holier than thou.
He makes Grumpy Cat look like the Sunshine baby in Teletubbies.
Good gawdess the trust question right off the bat
Do people trust Trump?
Pence droning. Kaine at least holds your interest, Pence is starting to sound like “Blah blah blah, blah blah blah…”
Oh FFS, why don’t people trust HRC? Jesus! Haven’t we heard enough of this?
Not much legitimate to criticize Hillary on, so they always go back to this circular nonsense.
BTW, I hope you make a very good recovery soon.
Thank you.
Pence is anti gay, anti women, anti Planned Parenthood, anti immigrant, and a strong believer in “religious freedom” which means total intolerance against all the above.
That is all I need to know about Mike Pence.
We need to hear him say all that tonight too.
Pence is was born in Columbus, Indiana. My grandparents and uncle lived there for many years. It’s a very wealthy town–many millionaires.
Ruh roh, Pence is making sweet Uncle Tim angry.
Hillary wasn’t the “architect” of Obama’s foreign policy. His policies were run out of the White House.
Please hold it in Tim.
Kaine says, “You are Donald Trump’s apprentice…”
That is clever.
Elaine needs to get these guys under control.
Elaine may ax well go home.
Maine is doing well in controlling the argument, Elaine isn’t.
Kaine
They can’t wait to get rid of him in Indiana. Right BBC?
How do we not have debt when we are at war for 15 years?
Pence is such an asshole.
Yep.
Pence called location of debate, Norwood University.
Why is Pence allowed to filibuster?
Tim Kaine knows more stats than I’ve heard for some time
Ask Pence about Planned Parenthood.
This woman is asking false questions about the debt and social security.
Kaine is throwing lots of facts out there.
ANSWE THE GODDAMN QUESTION!!!
Pence avoiding the question about Trump not paying taxes.
BRILLIANTLY???’
God bless the public servants, ha.
Kaine is winning, he’s forcing Pence to defend Trump. Pack it on him Kaine.
I love Tim Kaine but I think he’s talking too much. Pence is a liar but I hope Kaine isn’t alienating people.
I see it could go there, but right now he looks younger and vibrant to me.
I like Tim too, but he’s talking over the moderator and interrupting.
Social Security cannot be privatized, Yey!
The police need to stop shooting black men and boys!
BRING ON JOY REID!!!
Pence admits there is bias in law enforcement…………..And responding to crime, Donald Trump is the first to call out criminals before the police have even announced the facts.
Lol.
That’s not the question Pence! Here he goes, Trump is endorsed by the world.
Lies, lies,lies. Unbelievable.
Dastardly Hillary and her putting “isms” on people.
He’s lying about Hillary Clinton. And everything Kaine said about Trump is true, because he said it.
Yeah, Kaine’s style isn’t great but at least he’s not lying his face off like Pence.
The lesson of this debate is to recognize how very skilled Hillary is at debating.
Once that “wall” is built those immigration issues will be solved!
She ask Pence a direct question, and once again he won’t answer.
Pence: “after we build the wall–under the ground and in the air….”
Keep on him Kaine, we damn well know what the tapes shows us when Trump is speaking.
https://twitter.com/brianefallon/status/783483060150906881
Kaine: Trump can’t start a twitter war with Miss Universe without shooting himself in the foot.
Hahahahahaha!
That was great, and so was his comment about Trump loving on terrorist Russia.
Go on Kaine: Trump did say I know more than all the generals! And he trash talks our military, and has a thing with dictators!
Please ask them about women’s health access and Planned Parenthood. Jesus!
Pence keeps having a hell of a hard time answering the questions: We are talking about HOME GROWN Terrorist………Pence went off on Syrians refugees.
Kaine just got under his skin with that mention of the court case. Pence keeps doing unconstitutional crap.
He did good, and that judge gave Pence a lashing.
Kaine: We will have more intel on the ground (HUMANS), and we will create stronger alliance to get the job done on the ground.
Kaine, thank you defend Hillary Clinton, she is not a criminal.
Once again, Pence will not answer the question: what will you do about Aleppo right now?
Where the he’ll is the moderator? Two minutes become five easily.
I think it just feels that way. I’m getting tired of this. Is there a football game on?
Pence: Donald Trump supports our troops.
Kaine: He won’t pay taxes.
Hahahaha!
Pence isn’t prepared to answer how to keep a no fly zone that he promotes
Hey Pence, your party just passed a bill to sue those countries that we need help from! Stupidoo
Quinones is letting this guy filibuster!
The problem is that Trump knows squat which makes it hard to defend.
Trump did not know that Crimea was part of Ukraine!
I put up a fresh thread!
There is a lot that Trump has said and on video, that Pence doesn’t know he said! It’s very obvious.
This has become nothing but a Pence speech. Christ almighty somebody step in.