Live Blog 2: Kentucky and Oregon Primary Results
Posted: May 17, 2016 Filed under: just because 53 Comments
Hey Sky Dancers!!
Here’s fresh thread for Oregon. The last one is getting really long. I had to go out tonight for a family event, so I’m clueless except that Hillary appears to be the winner in Kentucky. We still have to wait a bit before the results come in from Oregon. I’m really hoping Hillary will win there too. It’s time to crush Bernie’s fantasy revolution once and for all.
I’m too tired to write much, but I happened to see this piece at The Hill: Sanders campaign manager: There will be no violence in Philadelphia.
Bernie Sanders’s campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, sought to allay the fears of Democrats worried about chaos breaking out at the party’s national convention.
Speaking on CNN Tuesday night, Weaver said the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia in July would not be a repeat of the bedlam that broke out over the weekend at the state Democratic convention in Nevada.
“There’s not going to be any violence in Philadelphia. We can guarantee that,” Weaver said. “We hope for a very fair and orderly convention. I think everybody wants that. Whoever the ultimate nominee, is we want to unify the party on the back of the convention to beat Donald Trump in the fall. I don’t think there’s any doubt about that.”
Weaver called the Nevada convention an “aberration” and “anomalous” compared to what has happened at every other state convention held so far.
Many Democrats are unsettled by the scene that played out there over the weekend.
Well, I’m glad Weaver seems to have begun to understand how serious this is getting, but does anyone think these guys can control the Bernie bros? They haven’t been able to so far.
From CNN: Dems’ new fear: Sanders revolt could upend Democratic convention.
Sen. Barbara Boxer, a veteran of Democratic politics, says she never saw anything quite like this before.
Loud cursing, shouting, obscene gestures and vile insults, including crude comments about the female anatomy. It was all on display over the weekend as supporters of Bernie Sanders turned the Nevada State Democratic Convention into chaos.
“I was not able to stop these people for doing what they did,” Boxer, a Hillary Clinton supporter, told CNN. “Apparently they’ve done it before. …. This group of about 100 were very vocal, and I can’t describe it — disrespectful doesn’t even explain it, it was worse than that.”
Boxer is hardly the lone Clinton supporter to experience such harassment on the campaign trail. Several top Democrats told CNN publicly and privately that the energy and enthusiasm of Sanders supporters has at times descended into incendiary attacks that threaten to tear apart efforts to unite Democrats against Donald Trump. Several female senators told CNN the attacks have been misogynistic.
What’s more, many Democrats fear that if Sanders does not rein in his supporters, the same ugly scene that occurred in Las Vegas last weekend could replicate itself in the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia.
“He should get things under control,” Boxer said of Sanders, saying it was worse than the vitriol during the Bush-Gore 2000 recount. “We’re in a race that is very critical. We have to be united. He knows that. I have in fact, called him a couple times, left a couple messages. I’m hopeful he can get control of this.”
Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California said “I do” when asked if Sanders should drop out of the race after voting concludes on June 7, giving Clinton a chance to “pivot” to the general election ahead of the July convention.
“I think it would be most regretful if there becomes a schism,” Feinstein said. “That’s what Donald Trump should want: a schism in our party. … It’s the responsibility particularly of Sen. Sanders to see that that doesn’t happen.”
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Has anyone heard anything from Oregon?
4 minutes to close of polls
Hill a Ree……….CNN is waiting for Sanders to talk……..wonder if he will mention his taxes?
Luv Kentucky!
The big cities are coming in so Sanders has a lead but it’s Portland and Salem so meh.
It’s the university towns.
Hi bb you may not know yet but Wasserman rebuked the Bern on CNN tonight. Gonna be a big deal.
That’s good to hear. Thanks.
By big deal I mean big nasty deal. There will be fallout from it. The Bern crazies at going to go ballistic on the DNC.
Oh, I get it. We’ll see. Bernie’s name is going to be mud in Congress and in Vermont.
Oregon’s numbers are starting to come in.
20% in BS 57.8% to HRC 42.2%
Still too close to call.
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37.8% in. bs 54.8%. HC 45%
Now bs 53% vs HC ,47% with 50% of vote
Damn.
Democrat Votes Percent
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Hillary Clinton 42,817 48.58%
Bernie Sanders 43,206 49.02%
Write-in Votes 2,109 2.39%
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Totals: 88,132 100%
http://oregonvotes.gov/results/2016P/1532616112.html
What are these numbers?
Called for Bernie
He won’t get many delegates, probably about net of 3.
No landslide for Bernie.
Blitzer just called it an important win for the Bern………WTF!!! Give it a rest Wolf….only the crazies believe that!!!
What? Its demographics are Bernie’s forte. White outback.sheesh.
So what was Kentucky, Wolfie? An important loss?
#!$*&* media math!!
A 0.44% win for BS in Oregon, .50 win for Hills in Kentucky and what does late night BBC news tell the world? “Sanders has won the state of Oregon, but Kentucky is still too close to call”
Over five freakin hours after the results were in in Kentucky and she won by a larger percentage. Why do “progressives” hate women so much?
I think we are just about good to go in KY, Jefferson just completed reporting. KY is 99.9% reporting: Clinton 46.8%. vs Sanders 46.3%. Kenton Co is at 96.2% reporting with 5146 vs 4880 votes.
Wow, at 8:46 pm Wappo has declared Sander the winner in OR. 60% reporting: Sanders 53% vs Clinton 47%
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Thanks for all reporting tonite 😃. Ciao!
Ciao!
Sanders the winner in Oregon? Ugh
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Josh Marshall says he has learned from sources inside the Sanders campaign that the ugly vitriol and nastiness is coming directly from Bernie himself, not just Weaver.
It Comes From the Very Top
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/it-comes-from-the-very-top
That’s fairly obvious, glad Josh has finally figured it out.
Bullshit.
1. He’s not even close.
2. Hillary in 2008.
Well he certainly has changed politics, hasn’t he? Not for the better, but he’s made it even less civil. yay. revolution.
Thanks for this link. It explains a lot. I’ve been trying to figure Bernie out in terms of him being basically decent. He is not.
Nope. Al Giordano has made that clear, and he was with Bernie before he ran for Mayor and helped him get election to the House.
So…why can’t the DNC punish Bernie for all the shit he and his supporters have been doing lately. Like take away votes…our some shit like that. Or fine him. Since he is not behaving in a manner of Democratic Party principles. I’m so tired of him and his shit.
His colleagues in the Senate will punish him. They can make sure he never gets another committee assignment. He’ll be ostracized even more than he is already. And it looks like Jane could be in for some very nasty lawsuits.
She can pay her legal expenses with that $8,000 or was it $9,000 a month she gets paid by Bernie’s campaign.
It was an obscene 80 thousand a month. That’s 80,000 for one person for one month.
I did trust ixquick (formerly the advanced DuckDuckGo), now startpage’s, search engines, but can’t find the proof that was incontrovertible three weeks or so ago. Jane’s salary was for “media consulting” or something like that.
(Hope the anti-google isn’t going all google on us now. In 2008 Google -admitted- they were jockying search results in favor of Obama vs. HRC.)
Good win in Kentucky, offsets the fairly close loss in Oregon. Big problem of the evening, not unexpected, is Sanders continuing to attack Hillary and the Democratic Party. Sanders vowed tonight to fight until the last ballot. So that means another more than two months of Sanders’ internecine attacks, which can only hurt Hillary, and delight Republicans. Maybe if Reid and Schumer threaten to take away all his committee perquisites, will that be enough to get him to end this war he is joyfully waging? Sanders loves to fight, and never concedes anything. How much damage will he do?
I’m thinking that perhaps Hillary might need to pick her VP earlier than she intended. If she picks an impressive person who has good liberal credentials, this might mute some of it.
What needs to happen is for Harry Reid and other Senators to explain the facts of life to Bernie. They need to take away all of his powerful committee assignments.
You all know how ticked off I am at Bernie Sanders. I am glad that Hillary won Kentucky and I am glad that Josh finally caught on to the fact that Sanders himself is the problem.
But right now, I’m onto a BIG BIG BIG story that could knock Trump out of the race.
It looks like he really does run an “upscale” whorehouse. The evidence keeps piling up. This one looks solid.
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2016/05/donald-trump-runs-whores.html
I’d like some ideas as to how I can get the word out. I don’t want people linking to my site — we need a major media organization to devote substantial resources to an investigation.
So far, I’ve had some feedback from one well-known mainstream media organ. I still don’t know if they will run with this.
I’ve been blogging since 2004, and only rarely have I gotten that tingly electric “This is big” feeling. Well, I can feel the electricity right now.
Bring down Trump and Hillary is president.
I’m have no insider info in this arena. Continuing to explore this with the limited number of entities still doing investigative reporting sounds appropriate.
Though I think Hillary would defeat Trump regardless.
Personally, right now I want to see Sanders go down in flames and turn to ash.
The story has been on conservative blogs and twitter. I’ll tweet the hell out of your posts on this! Don’t forget that Trump’s grandfather made his fortune from prostitution in Oregon.
Unfortunately, if having mob ties doesn’t knock Trump out, I’m not sure if having his brand on escort services will either.
Latest results from OR, 11:23 pm
Democrat Votes Percent
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Hillary Clinton 200,449 45.56%
Bernie Sanders 231,696 52.67%
Write-in Votes 7,786 1.77%
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Totals: 439,931 100%
http://oregonvotes.gov/results/2016P/1532616112.html
As I’ve watched Hillary during this campaign I’ve had the feeling that something was ‘off,’ she just hasn’t been the Hillary that we’ve seen in the past, she hasn’t been herself, and wondered if she’s had the same thoughts, waiting for that other shoe to drop.
Heck, after what the Democratic Party did to her in 2008, her own party that she had been loyal to for so many years; perhaps there appears to be a reticence to be who she really is, to expose herself to that betrayal again.
Yesterday I had a woman I thought would be voting for Hillary tell me she doesn’t trust her. Clearly she has believed the lies about Hill. In 2008 Hill was so real, alive and present in public, so the DNC had to step in to stop her if they were going to get Obama in office, now when she needs that same help they extended to O…maybe my husband is right, perhaps they are reluctant to let a woman drive the “family car”
“maybe my husband is right, perhaps they are reluctant to let a woman drive the “family car”
Agree!
This is my conclusion and as we know Obama had been a Democrat for less than ten years, before he belonged to another party. At our delegate selection we were over run with people that we hadn’t seen, and I suspect that they are NOT for Hillary and she may be surprised in July. Despite TWICE leading in the popular vote, she may be left out of winning again.
I often wonder, if I was not in charge would anyone hire me to be in charge. Many people don’t even know I am in charge… Women represent 1% of titled land owners WORLD WIDE.
Hillary Clinton – 4th World Conference for Women Speech
“Much of the work we do is not valued…banned from the ballot box…or denied property…women are most often the ones whose Human Rights are violated…when women are excluded from the political process they become even more vulnerable to abuse…it is no longer acceptable to discuss Women’s Rights separate from Human Rights…”
I think it’s only natural Hillary has changed a little from 2008 – that was her first run at the Presidency. It was an entirely different dynamic.She will be the nominee and she will win the White House in November.
This time – it’s no contest who is deserving. Sanders has probably enraged the DNC. I’m surprised he has a single superdelegate. He meets with Harry Reid and then immediately releases that hateful statement about the NV convention? Wow.
The Dem party cannot afford to lose women and minority voters. Nominating Sanders would do that.
Oops sorry bad editing – 2008 was a different dynamic. Hillary will be the nominee and she will win in November!!!!
The thing is if BErnie and his minions are slapped down hard that plays into their conspiracy theory alternate reality that there is an evil Clinton Empire that is out to get them.
Eventually they stopped making Weakened @ Bernie’s sequels. We just have to wait for them to get tired of hauling the body around from place to place.
In the meantime we have to put up with “Dead Man Talking!”
I think that the dude who posted here yesterday had a point when he said that legit Dems who have been backing the Winter Warlock are going to start backing away from him because he is so obviously coming of the spool. They are not going to go down in flames for the Bern.
If what was done to Hillary Clinton in 2008, had been done to Bernard Sanders I dread what would have happened. Hillary has always been a unity person, despite the ill treatment the Democratic party has given her. Also, the treatment of her by Nancy Pelosi (Pelosi appointed Bernard Sanders as Chair of the Veterans Affairs Committee, despite his military Deferment, but is willing today to send others to WAR.) and the those ‘secret committee’ that decided all the policy changes to reduce her delegate count was horrific.
Despite all that happened in 2008, none of us threatened anyone.
What I see here is that the party tolerates ill treatment of women, when women dare to go for heights that haven’t been broken…the Glass Ceiling. I can remember the disappointment I felt in 2008 and despite that I continued supporting the party. The lack of respect for Hillary Clinton as a hard working Democrats of decades, and lack of respect for her as a human being, left an opening for Bernard Sanders to walk in and use the party to his ends for his personal gain. Don’t kid yourselves about his ‘issues’ as he hasn’t led on ANY of them, it’s all about his ego and his EGO is willing to step on others Civil Rights work as seen with Lewis and Huerta.
The media hasn’t vetted Sanders, and it won’t.
Can you imagine what Bernie Bros would do if the DNC had pulled a Michigan/Florida thing on him? Counting half the votes or assigning some of his delegates to her??? GAH
Just tried looking for a tally of superdelegates committed so far – the best I could find was around 400 to 30 in Clinton’s favor. I’m really surprised Bernie has 30.
Weaver attacks Wasserman. Says no problem with DNC – they’ve treated the Bern well. The problem is Wasserman. (Sexist bent in the Bern’s camp????)
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/bernie-sanders-debbie-wasserman-schultz-criticism-223318
Mixed messages from the Bern camp. In the Bern’s speech in CA last night, he ripped the DNC & now Weaver says DNC is not the problem!!!!!
So tired of this……..