Iowa Caucus Morning After Live Blog/Open Thread

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Good Morning!!

This morning I learned on NPR that Hillary Clinton has been declared the winner of the Iowa Caucus, but I can barely find anything on Google news about it. This is what we will face over the next few months if she continues to win primaries in more diverse states than Iowa and New Hampshire. The media will work hard to diminish or ignore any positive news for Hillary.

Bernie bros at Sanders headquarters were all class/s as they booed and yelled “you’re a liar!” during Hillary’s speech last night. Neither Clinton nor Sanders claimed victory in their speeches, but Rachel Maddow of MSNBC (in her new role as unofficial (official?) spokesperson for the Sanders campaign) claimed that Hillary had done so.

The media and Bernie bros seem to have completely forgotten that Iowa is far from representative of the rest of the country.

Michael Cohen of The Boston Globe with a twitter rant:

 

Still, I have to admit that I’m disappointed that Hillary didn’t win decisively. So it’s on to New Hampshire with a debate and a town hall forum before the primary next Tuesday.

Politico: Clinton ekes out win in Iowa against Sanders.

Hillary Clinton narrowly defeated Bernie Sanders in the Iowa caucuses, according to results announced by the state Democratic Party early Tuesday morning — a dramatic finish to a race so close that the Associated Press declined to call it even after all precincts except one had reported results.

Clinton was awarded 699.57 state delegate equivalents, versus 695.49 for Sanders, Iowa Democratic Party Chairwoman Andy McGuire said in a statement. The results were the closest in state Democratic caucus history, and 171,109 Democratic voters turned out to caucus.

With 99.9 percent of precincts reporting, Clinton had 49.9 percent of delegates and Sanders had 49.5 percent, according to the Associated Press. Former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley received less than 1 percent then suspended his campaign. A single precinct had yet to report as of 5 a.m. Eastern time; that precinct, in Des Moines, is worth 2.28 state delegate equivalents.

Here are some more links to peruse this morning.

WaPo: Groundhog Day 2016: Punxsutawney Phil sees no shadow, predicts early spring.

LA Times Analysis: A dramatically reshaped presidential race drives into New Hampshire.

ABC News: Ted Cruz Credits Attack on Donald Trump’s ‘New York Values’ in Iowa Win.

Nate Cohn at NYT: Why a ‘Virtual Tie’ in Iowa is Better for Clinton than Sanders.

WaPo: Candidates arrive in New Hampshire, pitching a different set of voters.

Please post your links in the comment thread. 

 


86 Comments on “Iowa Caucus Morning After Live Blog/Open Thread”

  1. bostonboomer says:

    What are you reading and hearing?

  2. janicen says:

    I went to bed right after her speech, confident that she would win and she won. A collective hug to each and every Sky Dancer. She won. bb, don’t qualify her victory. That’s what’s done to all women whenever they accomplish anything. “Sure she won, but not by much….” “She could have done better…” Fuck that. She won. The first time in the history of our country a female candidate won the Iowa primary. She just made history. Does anybody think that the Obama campaign in ’08 would have been apologetic about a tiny victory? Hell no, they would have been shouting from the rooftops and now we should be too. SHE WON!!!!! A WOMAN WON IOWA!!!!! It’s a first and I’m damned glad I lived to see it.

  3. bostonboomer says:

    I’m going to check out Twitter and see what people are saying. I will put up another post later if this thread fills up.

  4. Ron4Hills says:

    I read “MessNBC” and “Morning Joke” on this blog yesterday. I learn many cool things from you guys.

    This morning those low-lifes were basically congratulating everybody from Cruz and Rubio, to “Weakened@Bernie’s”, except Hillary. They even tried to spin the fact that Iowa was never “Trump” territory so therefore he still did very well. And look how graciously he handled the upset. Wow, everybody won except Hillary.

    Well FUCK them. I won’t even do my customary symbolic censoring (*&%$…) FUCK them. Yeah, I said it. As far as the Morning Joke gang was concerned Hills is in deep trouble. Anyone who doesn’t follow the campaign on their own, might actually believe that crap.

    Iowa basically LIVES to upset the apple cart. Bush beats Reagan, Santorum, Huckabee, whatever, Iowa loves to confound predictions and derail front-runners.

    But in the end no matter how hard they tried to FORCE a Clinton loss, they failed, she WON!!! Even with the BS e-mail SCAM-dal they tried to orchestrate on the eve of the caucuses she still won.

    • janicen says:

      Freakin’ Rubio came in third and he went out and declared victory and nobody has a problem with that but the Bernie Bros are crying all over the web that she declared victory last night. Well dudes, she won. Live with it.

      • joanelle says:

        The only way the Bernies Bros will let up is if Bernie stops drinking his own cool aid and starts facing up to the fact that he’s a good man but doesn’t have what it takes to be POTUS.

    • bostonboomer says:

      Be sure to read the Nate Cohn article I posted up above. He gives a very good explanation of why Bernie didn’t do enough in Iowa. He is going to have to win the nomination with white liberals. Not going to work in the Democratic Party.

    • Fannie says:

      Tell it like it is. I am sick of why can’t Hillary connect to young voters, horseshit.

      • Ron4Hills says:

        People are sheep. Young people are sheepier than regular people. The young flock to Bernie because they have been told that young people are flocking to Bernie. They have been told that they is their Eugene McCarthy. Their Bobby Kennedy. Their Ralph Nader.

        I commend them for wanting to be involved but they have been blinded to the revolutionary nature of Hills historic candidacy by the non-stop “Feel The Bern” rhetoric in the media. The Sanders campaign is supposed to be cool. The Cool rallies. The cool parties. The cool people. Not to take anything away from Bernie but not one drop of his shtick is new. The only thing new is the wall-to-wall media attention.

        There isn’t one blessed thing revolutionary about running an old white dude with left leaning rhetoric (nothing against old white lefties mind you). Dudes period, have had their turn. Madame President is the one who will shake up the world on day one!

        We have to do a better job making the media and the college age voters wake up to that fact.

        • William says:

          I agree with this insightful post. Sanders has the allure of the “chic,” and Democrats have always been drawn to that. Jesse Jackson, Howard Dean, John Edwards for a time, Elizabeth Warren. They want something new, something that they can feel that they discovered. It makes them feel important and insightful, in a way like championing some art house movie.

          And yes, just as the British music fans of the ’80’s wanted to believe that Oasis and Blur were somehow their Beatles and Stones, so do the youthful voters want to have their own version of the ’60’s. But it’s not the 60’s. And actually, tragically, the ’60’s did not end up so well, with Nixon, Agnew, Wallace, and their “law and order” campaigns ultimately leading to what was a rather close brush with American fascism. And the Democratic Party was almost destroyed in the aftermath of the ’68 and ’72 campaigns, which ultimately led to Carter, Reagan, Bush, and all of that. A little knowledge of history can be very helpful. I don’t think that the “Millennials” have much use for studying history, though. But I don’t want to just blame that group, as there are plenty of older Democrats who have been pining for their fantasy revolution for many decades.

          For us people who realize that the Democratic Party is the last stand against the onslaught of insane tea party Ayn Rand theocracy, Hilllary Clinton is the best and perhaps last great candidate. She is the one person who might be able to rebuild our party on the state level, which is imperative–that is, if one actually cares about the long term fate of the nation. The Sanders campaign is just an indulgence, which could damage the chances of Hillary to not only win, but bring in the kind of majority which would lead to downticket gains. The country cannot afford that kind of indulgence, not with the proverbial tiger at the gates.

          • janicen says:

            “…like championing some arthouse movie.” That’s gold, William. Pure gold.

            I don’t condemn the millennials partly because I gave birth to one and she’s a Hillary supporter but also because I don’t think we could have achieved same sex marriage, the ACA, and alternative energy initiatives without the millennials demanding them. The boomers and millennials can work together very well but they are being heavily influenced by the Bernie Bros. They will figure it out.

          • Sweet Sue says:

            Amen.

      • Joanelle says:

        Probably because she reminds them of ‘mom’ and no one listens to mom

  5. janicen says:

    I loved what she did with her speech last night. I have to give it to Axelrod, he told them what to do on CNN. As the night wore on and it was apparent she would eek out a tiny victory he said, “You know, if I were in either candidate’s camp I would come out, declare victory, and fly to NH…” and that’s what they did. She came out while Cruz was still speaking so the networks had no choice but to switch to her and she ensured that she would beat Bernie in declaring victory. It was brilliant. The longer the night wore on, the worse the optics for her. It’s very possible that Bernie’s people were out there stalling just to create the optics. Remember Indiana in ’08? That’s what Obama’s people did. Clinton learned from her mistake and made the right move this time.

  6. janicen says:

    CNBC finally declared Clinton the winner.

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/01/iowa-caucus-results.html

  7. janicen says:

    Huffington Post acknowledges her victory with the expected “…but…” it was close.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-iowa_us_56b03247e4b057d7d7c7fcfa?dyytlnmi

  8. bostonboomer says:

    It’s interesting that the caucuses had big turnout on both sides. That wasn’t expected on the Democratic side, and Sanders thought he would win with a big turnout. That didn’t happen.

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  10. janicen says:

    Interesting comment on one of the NYT articles about Clinton’s tiny victory in Iowa. The winner gets one extra delegate plus all of the super delegates so outside of the historic accomplishment of her winning, the win in the delegate race is yuuuuuuuge!!!!!!!!

    • bostonboomer says:

      John Edwards’ was barely ahead of Clinton in Iowa in 2008, and it was spun as a terrible loss for her.

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  12. NW Luna says:

    And what would Hillary’s Iowa result be in the general election? That’s right, a WIN!

  13. bostonboomer says:

    In Iowa, Hillary Shows She’s Learned Something About Running While Female
    By Rebecca Traister

    Clinton’s approach tonight — her ballsy power-play move of stepping over Republican winner Ted Cruz’s victory speech, and her happy-warrior tone — showed a marked contrast from her 2008 loss in Iowa, a night when she came in nine points behind Barack Obama and one point behind John Edwards. Back then, her concession was dismal, wan, practically consumptive. Eight years later, she was energetic, brassy, and seemed to show she’s learning something about navigating the choppy waters of running for president while female.

  14. William says:

    Of course we would have liked to have seen Hillary win by a greater margin, but it was a caucus, which is highly unrepresentative, and should be ended by the Democratic Party. Hillary won no caucuses in 2008 but won most of the primaries. So she won this one, and got seven more delegates, all of which helps.

    New Hampshire will not be fun, but Hillary will never concede it. And then we have South Carolina and Nevada, and many more favorable primaries. A win is a win. As Jim Valvano famously said, “Survive and Advance!”

    The bad thing from the evening was the behavior of Sanders supporters (of both genders). I do not think that many of these will vote for Hillary in the general election. Like many of the Obama people in 2008, they see all this is either a game, or as egp-enhancing. As for the media, I expect their reactions. The key thing is to win the primaries, and mostly ignore the media, which has a clear agenda. In sum, we are much better off than had Sanders eked out a similar victory.

  15. bostonboomer says:

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  16. Fannie says:

    I’m out with photos of the ladies before us smiling down on Hillary, and telling us to feel the win.

    Feel the Win! Bella Azbug, Shirley Chisholm, Feel the Win. First time evah for a woman to win Iowa! Feel the Win.

    Don’t let the media burn Hillary………….Feel the Win.

  17. Fannie says:

    Good Morning to the first woman to win Iowa, evah! We stand with you in New Hampshire! Stand by, here comes Andrea Mitchell, putting Hillary in back ground and interviewing Bernie’s spokesman, and drowning out Hillary. Here we go, the coin toss, it’s Hillary’s fault.

    What a hell of a response from Andrea to the winning woman! I’ve been sick of Andrea Mitchell ever since she let the news people into the apartment of the homegrown terrorist in San Bernadino.

  18. Boo Radly says:

    Sander’s is not conceding his loss…..per CNN. 😱

    • janicen says:

      Excellent. That’s just the kind of petulant attitude sure to turn off some NH voters.

      • William says:

        I have never seen Sanders concede anything at any time; not a political point, not an argument ,and now not a result. In fact, I would not be at all surprised if he goes to the convention with his delegates, and creates floor fights about every possible issue. Let us hope not. Anyway, we’ve got 51 or so more primaries and caucuses to go, so he might as well move on to those.

        • Beata says:

          Gee, I’ve known men like Bernie. They are difficult people to deal with.

          • joanelle says:

            Yes, Beata, they stamp their feet,whine and eventually throw themselves to the floor as they sob that it was unfair, they were really the winner, we just don’t understand., mommy!

  19. janicen says:

    The MSM is finally conceding. I just got blurbs from CNN and NYT saying Hillary Clinton Won the Iowa Caucuses. Yay! The patriarchy says we can be happy now.

  20. bostonboomer says:

    Here we go.

    From Talk Left: Sanders Complains About Party Staffing, Wants Results “Recreated”

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2016/2/2/1458/52408/Election16/Sanders-Complains-About-Party-Staffing-Wants-Results-Recreated-

    What the hell is that?

  21. bostonboomer says:

    The Iowans who caucused for Hillary Clinton. Hillary won voters in Iowa by talking to them face to face.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/politics/hillary-clinton-iowa-caucuses-2016/index.html

    • Fannie says:

      I loved it when Hillary took off for her one to one campaign. Remember the media hated her for doing so, and she told them, this isn’t about me and media, it’s about me and the voters, and earning their trust, their votes. By God, she did, and the media is still pissed.

    • janicen says:

      That’s how Terry McAuliffe won in Virginia. On TV he comes across as an annoying yankee, but when you meet him he is warm and engaging and you feel like you’ve known him for years. He wasn’t on a whole lot of TV ads but he showed up at every piddly little event in every corner of this state and he won people over that way. It’s exhausting but it works.

  22. bostonboomer says:

    At least one man is proud of Hillary’s accomplishment.

    The Hill: White House applauds Clinton for Iowa win.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/267908-white-house-applauds-clinton-for-iowa-win

  23. jackyt says:

    How long before Trump cites this as proof-positive of Cruz’s ineligibility?

    http://www.thebeaverton.com/national/item/2412-slow-canadian-takeover-of-u-s-going-according-to-plan

  24. Riverbird says:

    In case you haven’t seen it yet, there’s a great all-caps rant by Courtney Enlow at http://www.pajiba.com/politics/an-allcaps-explosion-of-feelings-regarding-the-liberal-backlash-against-hillary-clinton.php

    Here’s a sample:

    THIS IS BASICALLY TWITTER RIGHT NOW:
    Hillary: College should be affordable.
    Twitter: Establishment puppet, no better than GOP.
    Bernie: College should be affordable.
    Twitter: DAD

    • Dee says:

      The pajiba article is a must read. Thanks for posting.

    • NW Luna says:

      Love that rant!

      I was listening — briefly — to Democracy Now after work. Someone was talking about how Sanders has connected well with younger people and people wanting economic fairness, making things better for working class people. Then he said that Hillary has worked in these issues for a long time and is “now embracing” the concept. WTF? He was contradicting himself. Saying Hillary has lots of experience and commitment and then the next minute describing this in a way that makes it sound as if she’s me-too’ing to keep up with Sanders. It’s as if they’re always looking for some underhanded interpretation to put on whatever she does.

      Reminds me of the Obots back in ’08 when Obama voted for FISA and immunity for telecompany spying when Hillary kept her principles and voted against it. They whined that Obama really meant umpteenth-dimensional chess and Hillary was devious.

      • Earlynerd says:

        NPR sold out women first and worst. I remember one horrible morning in the 80’s waking up to an NPR commenter chastising women about refusing to cede abortion gracefully and just leave the national stage.

        Until Reagan cut their funding, NPR was so far left Bernie couldn’t’ve seen them with a telescope. When Regan’s elections proved they’d bet wrong in their advocacy, women and children were the only ones to pay for it.

        No small surprise the dudebro’s from the 10’s sound like the dudebro’s from the 80’s.

      • Riverbird says:

        Yes, I’m reminded of 2008 again and again.

    • janicen says:

      I forgot to thank you last night after I read it. It’s awesome, thank you.

    • Ron4Hills says:

      Amazing post. Thanks.

  25. Riverbird says:

    I’ve finally lost patience with my friends and acquaintances who are Bernie supporters and are posting irrational anti-Clinton comments about how she ‘cheated’ in the Iowa caucuses. I won’t fight with them because we’re on the same side about not wanting another Republican in the White House. We need to support the Democratic candidate in the general election, so instead of getting into useless arguments with people who won’t listen, I’m quietly unfollowing irrational BernieBro friends. I’ll start seeing their posts again after the convention.

    • bostonboomer says:

      I’m not sure these people don’t want a Republican in the WH. They’re on a path to exactly that with Bernie.

      • janicen says:

        I feel certain that the reason Rand Paul had to drop out of the race was because his followers are all backing Bernie.