Live Blog South Carolina Republican Debate(s): Going South and then some
Posted: January 14, 2016 Filed under: 2016 elections, Live Blog, Republican presidential politics, The Right Wing | Tags: Republican Presidential Primary Debates, South Carolina 160 Comments
Good Evening!
The main stage debate of the Republican party Presidential wannabes will showcase seven candidates. Four candidates were sent to the kiddie table but Rand Paul has decided to stay home since this time he couldn’t whine himself out of his basement level poll numbers . The main debates starts at 9 pm eastern. It’s on the Fox Business News Network so be prepared to hunt for it or to stream it. (EWWWWWWWWWW)
Seven Republican candidates are set to clash in the sixth GOP presidential debate Thursday night, hosted by FOX Business in Charleston, SC. The debate, slated to begin at 9pm ET, will feature Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Jeb Bush and John Kasich.
Another four candidates who did not meet the network’s public polling requirements qualified for an undercard debate at 6pm ET: Rand Paul, Carly Fiorina, Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum. But Paul has announced that he will boycott the event, accusing the network and the RNC of picking winners and losers in the GOP field.
Fiorina already said something completely objectionable in the currently running kiddie debate.
Unlike another woman in this race, I WAS actually spending time with my husband.”
Newsweek is live blogging both the debates here and she’s a mean one, Ms. Grinch.
“Unlike another woman in this race, I actually like spending time with my husband.” Thus did former Hewlett-Packard Chief Executive Carly Fiorina open the sixth Republican primary debate in Charleston, South Carolina, on Thursday. It was a barb aimed squarely at Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton, whom pundits and analysts expect to be a popular topic of discussion throughout the evening. Fiorina also criticized Clinton’s response to the 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, that left four Americans dead—an event recently immortalized in a factually dubious film directed by Michael Bay, of Transformers fame.
“We should stop letting refugees into this country,” Fiorina continued. A similar proposal to refuse refugees, floated by Republican frontrunner Donald Trump, earned him a bump in the polls, but has garnered widespread criticism from the political class.
As the night went on, Fiorina did not let up on Clinton. “Mrs. Clinton, you cannot wipe a server with a towel,” she said, referring to the Democratic candidate’s ongoing private email server scandal.
As this state prepared to host GOP primary debates on Thursday and next month, many Republicans are rooting for South Carolina to reclaim its kingmaker role in 2016.
Polls currently show celebrity businessman Donald Trump with a commanding lead, followed by Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio. But voters here are widely considered up for grabs, likely to be influenced by earlier contests in Iowa and New Hampshire and the unpredictable 11 days of the campaign after those votes and before the Feb. 20 GOP primary.
Candidates who are struggling in Iowa—such as former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, whose father and brother won victories in South Carolina that helped them clinch the nomination—are jockeying for better-than-expected showings in New Hampshire, hopefully followed by a strong finish in South Carolina.
“It’s a chance to reset the race,” said South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, who quit running for president last month and has questioned Mr. Trump’s ability to build a winning national coalition in the general election. “My goal for South Carolina Republicans is get back to our roots. Let’s pick a conservative who can actually win the race because winning matters.”
South Carolina Republicans say they have had better luck picking candidates who end up winning the GOP nomination because the electorate is broader and more representative of the country than in the smaller states of Iowa and New Hampshire.
There are evangelical Christians in the northwestern part of the state near Bob Jones University in Greenville; affluent, more moderate professionals and retirees around the capital in Columbia and along the Atlantic coast in Charleston, Hilton Head and Myrtle Beach, and foreign policy hawks concentrated around the military bases in the central and southern parts of the state.
“South Carolina is a test for every facet of a campaign,” Mr. Moore said. “It’s not just about organization. It’s not just about message. It’s about winning a state with a broad and diverse electorate, so really it’s a test if you can win beyond South Carolina.”
In particular, South Carolina looks like a gateway to a potentially pivotal cluster of nearby southern states that will vote on March 1.
So, pull up a seat and join us for a lively discussion!!
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I watched Carly Fiorina and can say for certain she is one miserable human being. With an approval rate of 3 percent you would expect her to come to the realization that she is going nowhere in this race. Yet she hangs on.
Santorum did a lot of yelling and Huckabee x was flinging the poo as usual.
She is one nasty piece of work.
They have certainly done their share in contaminating the republican campaign. Nobody I know feels anything about Carly Fiorina.
Hey Gals and a few Guys,
Does anyone else think when Ted Cruz talks about Trump’s “New York values” it’s dog whistle for Jews as in “Jews who run the Media?”
Yup.
Jews, black people, gays, and uppity women.
And immigrants, of course.
Well Lou Dobbs is around to feed the fire. Guess my new digital TV service includes this channel. Blech!
You can count on it.
Here’s the latest data on Iowa from FiveThirtyEight:
Thanks Dak for doing live blog tonight!
You folks watching?
So, I just got on for Cruz. He is trying to be calm and resolute.
Kasich-simple formula freeze regulations and tax cuts for corps and few for peeps.
Aren’t we really beyond this mantra?
Wow, Neil got the date wrong, it was a year before Obama took office, and Kascich was on the Lehman Brothers Board when it happened.
Sailors forced to appologise. Christie- military action when should it be used, strengthen alliances around the world. Talk to adversaries limits for patience. Wow, what an idiotic stance no third term for Obama.
Has Ted Cruz ever answered a question as asked?
Christie never answers the questions either.
So Christie would you have used military force? He will not answer, his only answer is the world on fire, and don’t let Hillary in the white house for 3rd time.
JEB! Red lines, yeah, lets talk about the red lines for women not your garbage.
We’re not better than when Obama was inaugurated? When he was inaugurated, the economy had collapsed as a result of Jeb Bush’s brother’s policies.
I thought he was referring to the military lines, like the chemical warfare, Syria said they wouldn’t use then did, and Obama didn’t go in, after he said he would. I meant that recent article where the welfare of women and children are not considered part of a red line.
WTF Terrorism is on the run?
Yeah, it’s running all around. HRC a security disaster. More lies She is not under investigation.
Think about it, Bush just said that we are worst off than when his brother left office!
Dodd Frank? That’s foreign policy and Hillary’s fault?
I thought I could watch more than 15 minutes, but nope. I turned it off as J.E.B. was lying about Hillary being under investigation by the FBI.
Whoa, Hillary is disqualified from being president!
Marco Rubio needs a drink of water. Calm down, Marco.
Bars of soap for him!
Whats his name, says Obama doesn’t understand ISIS. Apparently he thinks Guantanamo should be immortalized.
Carson is a boob.
Obama doesn’t understand we live in the 21st century? Someone got him to memorize a bunch of gibberish and conspiracy theories.
He seems to repeat what aides try to teach him.
Agreed.
Carson makes a joke about being woken, is that an in doctor joke? Existential threat can be won if Carson helps our military.
Trump I’m real, war is real threats are real immigration are real, hoards of men are COMING!
What a fuckin’ liar, Trump, the refugees, the lines I have seen are all men, strong, young men, not women, not children.
He is playing to the German attack of 100 women, by a reported 1000 men. Also reports indicating in Germany that a larger percentage of men have in fact traveled as refugees and what that means socially.
When I read that report, I imagined that in one way that would be logical. Also, what is happening to the women left behind?
Cruz is explaining his loans and made a paperwork error, Lol.
I’m sorry that fucker, Cruz is blaming it all on the NEW YORK TIMES.
You know I have borrow some money a time or two, or three. On that disclosure above the signature, I recall a clause regarding a penalty of perjury. And his wife is CEO of the bank? Come on brother, you can do better than feed us that shit.
Cruz, That was a good comeback re his citizenship.
I never understood how they were going to take that very far, after going through it with McCain.
I loathe all of these people!p
Agreed.
Ditto!
Cruz is an idiot.
They all are.
Here we go with the treatment polls.
FREAKEN POLLS
Wow, Trump is nuts. Democrats are going to file suit against Trump. Give me a break.
I don’t know how much of this I can stomach.
Trump, Cruz, battle it out over Cruz’s citizenship and turn it into a reality show brawl.
Let them go after one another and let the insanity flow.
Rubio says Obama doesn’t believe in the Constitution or the free enterprise system. What a moron.
Whathisname needs move gravitas and less fast talk.
Christie says whathisname is lying. yadayada, Common Core is eliminated in NJ.
Here is to incompetent people!
Mr. Trump, our country as made YOU a very big billionaire!
has made you.
Chris Christie wrote a check to Planned Parenthood!! Horrors!
And btw, Hillary is not a target of an FBI investigation.
And while I am talking, no one on this stage is a socialist, and secondly no one is under investigations, looking Christie square in the face. Hahahaha.
LOL!
I am trying to figure out who is lying the most. Tough call.
Agreed.
NJI s in free fall under Christie.
Carson, can’t we all get along? If we lose the judges will be liberal.
Kasich- retrain 50 year olds. Yeah we wimmins need that, or we could pass the ERA, and fair wages.
Your’re 51 years old, have lost your job, and you have no where to go? Yeah, ashol, because he doesn’t a UNION to back him up anymore. That’s why we don’t have the American Dream anymore.
Here we go, Bill Clinton’s affairs.
Clinton’s a dick, HRC is an enabler. Carson, do we have standard and principles anymore? actually he almost sounds rational like he looking to build consensus. Scary.
I thought he looked and sounded like a numbskull. These guys all belong in a Three Stooges short. They could have food fights then.
Lol.
There is not one – NOT ONE – up on that stage who is even remotely qualified, or appears presidential.
I’m actually glad that I can’t watch this shit. My mom had an accident while driving Bebe’s car this evening. Ma is bruised up a bit around the knees and they are swollen. Dealing with all this stuff now. Yuk.
Oh I’m sorry … It’s liarpalooza!
Your Mom, gonna be ok? Car damage can be a pain. A couple of years ago we parked our RV, Hubby’s company truck and my old Talon in a row on the street, cause we were using our parking area. That night around 11, a drunk made it around the corner of our 25 mph street and managed to speed up in 200 feet enough to smash into the back of the Talon, totaling it and pushing it into the full sized newer truck, almost totaling that, pushing the truck into the RV, damaging the bumper. The driver was drunk but fine and amazingly, had insurance. I had fixed up the Talon for my granddaughter but that was gone. Can’t do anything but laugh, even though it changes your driving parameters.
ANSWER THE GODDAMNED QUESTION!!
We’ll be right back to see how this debate is going:
HahahahaH!
Funny!
Guns In Florida you make money shipping guns to CA.
Bush: If you commit a gun crime in Florida, you’re going away.
Really? Like George Zimmerman?
Yep, just like!
Sure.
He’s gone buying more bullets.
These people lack even a modicum of commonsense.
From FiveThirtyEight’s live blog:
Yup.
Imagine having Rubio as president? A fast talking liar and con man.
Where did those guns on the black market come from Rubio?
His age, religion and political label will bury him in the general.
I can’t take this, whatshisname makes me want to dig a hole and push him in it. Christie is right-a petulant child. Clearly I am pre-imagining child abuse, If this keeps up I ‘ll have to give one of us a time out.
I’ve had all I can take. I’m turning it off.
I understand.
I hate Cruz with a burning passion.
He’s despicable.
Cruz is burying himself with this NY thing. Stop digging.
Trump the smell of death and rebuilding. Trump understands NYC like Clinton.
Storm Thurmond? That racist pig?
Did JEB say something rational? I missed it while I was centering. Kasich blah.
No. He never does so you missed nothing.
You look at that stage and you have to question is the best we can do? Not one original thought or policy issue coming out of any of them.
Republican party is dead.
Trump is the cause of death of the republican party as we know it. Go ahead and write up the death certificate.
No more barbques for the Prince of Saudia Arabia………bad beef in Texas.
Hee hee.
“I will beat Isis by closing all the bridges.” Chris Christie
Yup, that will do it.
And Marco Rubio will do it by getting very very scowly and angry!
I’m looking for a bridge too far, but I’d like to ask each and everyone of them: Is Iraq our allied or our enemy?
Christie, let me help you: Isis is Sunni’s, and the Saudia Arabians are Sunni’s…………and on 9/11, they were Saudia Arabians.
When I am president, I will ask them as they come here, are your a bad guy or a good guy. That works.
Lol.
China has control of North Korea and could do something. China needs a corporate whack job from us, not politial hacks. hmmm tpp a good thing?
Obama is at fault for everything.
Famous Republican words: Reverse Course, cut the taxes for the rich.
Cruz is insane. Abolish the IRS but still tax folks? Wtf?
My eyes are rolling, what next?
whatshisname had the comeback for that. Hire 20,000 under another name to manage tax returns.
Caterpillar has been headquartered in France for over 15 years, Trump.
They make it up as they go along, it’s John Deere. Oh, it not China, it’s the IRS. They driving the damn country into a shit hole.
When you dig in manure, it’s full of shit.
I can’t believe we’re getting Trump to talk tariffs.
OMG Sanctuary cities are the reason we have crime, bad immigrants!!!
Yeah. There are a few things here.
Apparently Rkubio has never heard of Flint, No as he demands,we deregulate.
They aren’t concerned about the corporations loyalty to our country.
JEB has just clearly explained why soybeans should be used in the US, not China.
I’m losing Wifi.
Get back here.
I’m kind of back but I can only hear them.
Christie, I suggest that we legalize breaking the US TAX Laws to fix the bridges in SC, we don’t need to build a tunnel.
Rubio, I am going to side with Raygun, and not Pelosi. If any unions are left, you can be assured that I will bust there asses.
Reagan’s said no VAT tax. 15% flat tax. Abolish the IRS.
No taxes, no gun laws, no regulations, and no minimum wage, and screw your vote.
Exactly.
Three fucking more minutes to go. The biggest idiots I’ve ever listened to.
Yep
Carson is doing the same thing women are accused of; not speaking up enough. Men win cause they talk more and longer and over each other.
If I become President, I wouldn’t care about my businesses, my employees can go screw themselves.
Drumpf
Blow the hell out of Isis, and then go in there and build new Trump Hotels.
Kasich. arggh. I have to stop using the word “folks”
I keep thinking these people will still be around even after this election, and some of them will be in Congress.
How do you retrain a right wing nut? What job are they suited for?
JEB wants to put the NSA in charge of private internet safety? did I hear that right?
HRC apologised for not saying all live matter? That’s a mid warp.
all lives matter? That’s a mind warp.
Tomorrow morning a new movie is out on Benghazi, watch it, I produced, directed, and I am the shining star in this movie, not Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Ha.
I tell you what if any of these idiots are elected, this country will be haunted by fear for years, and years, and years to come.
Trump. Construction workers were upset about the view of our soldiers kneeling? Declare war!
Thanks for hanging with me Roof………….they act like they were born yesterday. Knowledge escapes them.
Nite Fannie!
We wandered into their borders…sheesh
Nite everyone, that was hard work and my brain feels abused. Gonna look at seed catalogs for awhile.