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Late Afternoon Open Thread: Town Hall Debate Songified

Obama and Romney join the would-be motown band, Crowley and the Town Hallians, in the 3rd Presidential Debate.

LYRICS

Crowley
Welcome to the town hall debate
where ordinary people talk to the candidates

Skippy
The ladies tell me they like a man with insurance
So how do I get some without paying a billion dollars for it
Tell me, who’s gonna work it out, baby
Who’s gonna work it out?

Obama
This is not just a health issue
It’s an economic issue
This is money out of that family’s pocket

Romney
If Obamacare is implemented fully
It’ll be another 2500 on top
You’ve seen health insurance premiums, gone up
Incomes go down

Obama
I said that we would make sure that insurance companies
Can’t jerk you around

CHORUS:
Skippy
What you gonna do?
Romney
We should make sure that our legal system works
Crowley
Oh, what you gonna do?
Obama
Go after gang bangers
we’re gonna get it done
In a second term
Skippy
Oh, what you gonna do?
Obama
Take the money we’ve been spending on war
Romney
More drilling
Obama
Double our exports
Skippy
Who’s gonna work it out, baby, who’s gonna work it out?

Chad
Since I got out of college, I’ve been living in my mom’s basement
How are you gonna get me a job before she goes totally apestuff?
Who’s gonna work it out, baby
Who’s gonna work it out?

Romney
I want you to be able to get a job
I know what it takes
To make America the most attractive place
That’s why I wanna bring down the tax rates

Obama
Low-skill jobs are not gonna come back
I want jobs with a high wage
If we’re adding to our deficits for tax cuts
We will lose that race

Cynthia
Just because I am a lady
My salary’s a little bit less
How can every woman get equal pay?
And please stop looking at my breasts

Romney
I had the chance to pull together a cabinet
I brought us binders full of women
My chief of staff said
“I need to be making dinner for my kids”
So we said fine

Obama
My grandmother worked her way up to become
Vice president of a local bank, but she hit the glass ceiling
Now I’ve got two daughters and I wanna make the same opportunities
That anybody’s sons have

[CHORUS]

Obama: From the governor, we haven’t heard any specifics beyond Big Bird
Romney: That’s completely false
Obama: Not true
Romney: Absolutely true
Obama: Just isn’t true
Crowley: Wooo

The morning thread is getting pretty long, so here’s a fresh one to continue the conversation.

Comments

92 responses to “Late Afternoon Open Thread: Town Hall Debate Songified”

  1. bostonboomer Avatar
    bostonboomer

    Undecided voter who asked the question about equal pay for women is still undecided.

    It took roughly 30 seconds after she asked about the wage gap last night for the right to start calling Katherine Fenton a left-wing conspiracy, vainly trying to connect her to someone who worked for Code Pink, calling her a “feminazi,” and a “party girl.” Reached by Salon at her home in Floral Park, N.Y., today, Fenton confirmed that she’s no plant. She is, she says, a 24-year-old pre-K teacher and an undecided voter. Still undecided, in fact. And not a feminist.

    Here’s what Fenton asked last night: “In what new ways do you intend to rectify inequalities in the workplace? Specifically regarding females making only 72 percent of what their male counterparts earn.”

    And she’s not a feminist.

    “I’m a 24-year-old woman that lives in the United States and feels like I should be treated the same as anyone else. That makes me a normal human being.”

    1. bostonboomer Avatar
      bostonboomer

      I asked her to clarify how she defined feminism, given that she’d told me she was passionate about “women’s equality in the workforce” and had said, “I’m very protective of my reproductive rights.” Fenton said, “I’m not only concerned with women.”

      1. pdgrey Avatar
        pdgrey

        What the hell does that mean?

      2. RalphB Avatar
        RalphB

        I feel for that young lady. Though I have no damn clue how she could be undecided at this point. She’s has personally profited from the ACA and still doesn’t get it? She must pay no attention to the larger world around her, or politics at least.

      3. bostonboomer Avatar
        bostonboomer

        It means she’s a feminist but she doesn’t know it. Undecided voters are very confused people.

      4. pdgrey Avatar
        pdgrey

        best comment
        On the other hand, it’s quite sad that any young person would denigrate a movement that has done so much to promote her own social & legal equality.

    2. pdgrey Avatar
      pdgrey

      Ralph, it’s like small business people that can’t see the difference between themselves and someone like mitt. Obama did a lot in the stimulus to help them.

    3. ecocatwoman Avatar

      And she is teaching chidren?

      1. ecocatwoman Avatar

        Okay, this nested wrong. My bad. It should’ve gone with the comments above about the Katherine Fenton.

  2. bostonboomer Avatar
    bostonboomer
    1. pdgrey Avatar
      pdgrey

      I saw that, BB and it’s the first time I wish i had HBO to see Bill Mahar’s reaction.

      1. pdgrey Avatar
        pdgrey

        Also, thanks for giving me the heads up on the thread change.

      2. bostonboomer Avatar
        bostonboomer

        That one was getting really long.

    2. HT Avatar
      HT

      How cute can one idiot be – a fiancee when he’s still married. Nice trick, but republicans seem to have the play book on this sort of nonsense. Too bad it didn’t work for D’Sousa (snicker, snicker, snort)

      1. bostonboomer Avatar
        bostonboomer

        Turns out the fiance is married too.

      2. HT Avatar
        HT

        That is even funnier.

      3. RalphB Avatar
        RalphB

        That reminds me. According to Rachel Maddow, Jerome Corsi of WND was flying on Romney’s campaign plane yesterday with the candidate.

        1. ecocatwoman Avatar

          I think it was Lawrence O’Donnell who said on his show last night that Corsi had been issued press credentials by the Romney campaign.

      4. RalphB Avatar
        RalphB

        Oh well, could have been either 🙂

        1. ecocatwoman Avatar

          I wasn’t intending to contradict you. If I had to rely on someone’s memory, especially after the day I’ve had, I would rely on yours over mine.

  3. bostonboomer Avatar
    bostonboomer

    Pierce on Senator McDreamy’s big mistake that could get Elizabeth Warren elected.

    http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/scott-brown-asbestos-ad-13853238

    1. RalphB Avatar
      RalphB

      Romney and Brown do have Fehrnstrom in common. Maybe that’s the reason for the stupid?

  4. ANonOMouse Avatar
    ANonOMouse

    If y’all get the chance you need to go to Cannonfire and read the 2 most recent posts he has up.

    There is an October Surprise scheduled to be released by a mysterious website called “The October Surprise” to the internet and twitter on Monday evening before the Tuesday debate. Joe’s post of 10/17 talks about a Salon article by Craig Unger published on October 1, where Unger describes an October surprise coming from the GOP concerning the Libya Counsulate attack.

    Joe’s post today 10/18 ties together some very strange information (a little of it supplied by yours truly) that indicates that this mysterious new website might be the vehicle used to deliver the October Surprise that Craig Unger describes in his October 1 article.

    This all ties back to the birthers and Swift Boat Veterans. It’s a bit convoluted, but it’s all too coincidental for words. I’ve been waiting for the other shoe to drop, this may be it. If you have time read Joe Cannon’s posts, you won’t be sorry.

    http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/

    1. RalphB Avatar
      RalphB

      Info on a couple of the site’s developers. Looks like a hoax or marketing gimmick, maybe?

      http://politicker.com/2012/10/meet-two-of-the-developers-behind-the-internet-october-surprise/

      1. ANonOMouse Avatar
        ANonOMouse

        Thanks for linking that Ralph. I think it raises more questions than it answers, but if it’s a marketing hoax maybe all of the attention will scare them enough to shut them down.

        I don’t want to go through another 11th hour GOP assassination of a Dem candidate. They took down Al Gore with all of the Love Story, Internet inventor, Pot Pusher and the SCOTUS theft. Then they took down Kerry with Swift Boat Veterans. And as we all know they’ve spent the last 4 years spinning tall tales about Obama, the latest being “Dreams from my real Father”. Not so ironically Corsi has been involved in much of it and if Romney is in bed with Corsi, something is going on.

  5. pdgrey Avatar
    pdgrey

    Man, I just wrote a reply and hit the wrong key.
    first comment
    Wow, talk about your “Snakes on a Plane…”
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/10/onboard-the-romney-plane-jerome-corsi-138800.html
    The Romney/Ryan assholes will do anything, but I worry about the media.

    1. pdgrey Avatar
      pdgrey

      Dak, I just accidentely when to Texas Darlin’ site while looking up this shit. My God, she was a Clinton supporter!! I think I’m going to vomit.

      1. RalphB Avatar
        RalphB

        I hadn’t thought of her in a very long time. I’m sorry I just did. Whew.

      2. pdgrey Avatar
        pdgrey

        Ralph, if you look, it’s going to really shock you, she’s crazy!

      3. Boo Radly Avatar
        Boo Radly

        Why am I experiencing deja vu – Cheney, Rove, rock solid intel, yellowcake, WMDs? Nothing gets the ‘base’ repubthugs base stirred up like security, Muslim wedding rings – they lose all consciousnesses of reality. How many times can they be fooled? The world’s greatest patriots, lovers of America and the troops never questioned the number of American troops who died for that war to find WMD – I will never understand. Dupes – they are the exact opposite of what they say they value. idgits – I bet they could play hide the peanut for hours, days – enjoying all the suspense. idgits Skydancing is so appreciated, I read everyday – don’t have the energy to post much. All here are authentic – you do have Democratic values, you know the score and still stay and fight. Thank you all – posters and commenters. My Sane Zone Surely this October Surprise is just a rumor – worse yet – was the attack promoted by Rove n company?

      4. RalphB Avatar
        RalphB

        She’s been crazy for a long time!

      5. pdgrey Avatar
        pdgrey

        Boo Radly,
        – I bet they could play hide the peanut for hours, days – enjoying all the suspense. idgits
        LOL!

      6. Beata Avatar
        Beata

        Texas Darlin’. Now there’s another blast from the past. Has she got the whitey tape?

      7. ANonOMouse Avatar
        ANonOMouse

        “Muslim wedding rings”

        Boo…..Don’t forget, that was a gay muslim wedding ring. 🙂

    2. bostonboomer Avatar
      bostonboomer

      OMG! Jerome Corsi? Romney is a very sick man.

  6. pdgrey Avatar
    pdgrey
    1. ANonOMouse Avatar
      ANonOMouse

      “I don’t think I will come out of this election sane.”

      LOL!!!

    2. Beata Avatar
      Beata

      Heh, like I was ever sane to begin with! Cue the vid…

      1. pdgrey Avatar
        pdgrey

        Beata, You can call me Al 🙂

      2. Beata Avatar
        Beata

        I’m Betty to you, Al.

      3. pdgrey Avatar
        pdgrey

        That Al song is one of my favorites. Hi Betty 🙂

      4. JJ Lopez Minkoff Avatar

        When my Nana was alive, she always would get my husband and my dad and my uncle’s names mixed up. Which in turn would get my husband calling her Betty…her name was Jennie…

  7. ANonOMouse Avatar
    ANonOMouse

    Here’s some polling good news.

    Obama Leads In Iowa And Wisconsin, Swing State Polls Show

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/iowa-wisconsin-polls_n_1982343.html

    1. RalphB Avatar
      RalphB

      Screw Gallup!

      TPM: Obama Up 6 Points In Michigan

      1. bostonboomer Avatar
        bostonboomer

        All right! I’m not worried about Gallup. We’ll have to wait a few days to see whether Obama got a bump from the debate. And then there’s another debate on Monday night.

    2. RalphB Avatar
      RalphB

      Nate Silver comments on the Gallup tracking poll which shows Mitt Romney leading President Obama by seven points today — results which “are deeply inconsistent with the results that other polling firms are showing in the presidential race, and the Gallup poll has a history of performing very poorly when that is the case.”

      “In 2000, for example, Gallup had George W. Bush 16 points ahead among likely voters in polling it conducted in early August. By Sept. 20, about six weeks later, they had Al Gore up by 10 points instead: a 26-point swing toward Mr. Gore over the course of a month and a half. No other polling firm showed a swing remotely that large. Then in October 2000, Gallup showed a 14-point swing toward Mr. Bush over the course of a few days, and had him ahead by 13 points on Oct. 27 — just 10 days before an election that ended in a virtual tie.”

      1. roofingbird Avatar

        I think there should be a poll on the number of Repubs vs the number of Dems that still have a house phone to be contacted by a poll. Then I think we should have a poll on the number of cell phones that can be found in a nationwide phone book and available for polls.

    3. RalphB Avatar
      RalphB

      Here are the latest polls from the battleground states, all of today’s:

      Colorado: Obama 50%, Romney 47% (Public Policy Polling)

      Iowa: Obama 51%, Romney 43% (NBC News/Marist)

      Florida: Obama 47%, Romney 44% (Newsmax/Zogby)

      Michigan: Obama 52%, Romney 46% (EPIC-MRA)
      Michigan: Obama 44%, Romney 41% (Denno Research)

      North Carolina: Romney 52%, Obama 46% (Rasmussen)

      Ohio: Obama 49%, Romney 48% (Rasmussen)

      Virginia: Obama 49%, Romney 48% (Public Policy Polling)

      Wisconsin: Obama 51%, Romney 43% (NBC News/Marist)

      1. pdgrey Avatar
        pdgrey

        I know that is Rasmussen, but that Ohio # looks bad. I read somewhere Romney is pulling out of NC, I guess that think they have it is sewn up.

      2. bostonboomer Avatar
        bostonboomer

        Not bad. Better than a couple of days ago.

      3. RalphB Avatar
        RalphB

        Better CO number when Gary Johnson is included and he’s on the ballot.

        https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/259024072883716096

    4. ecocatwoman Avatar

      Holy Crapola! RCP has the Rombot ahead in electoral votes for the first time since I’ve been following it. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html

      1. JJ Lopez Minkoff Avatar

        Shit, that is depressing connie…

  8. RalphB Avatar
    RalphB

    Wow, now this is a contentious debate. They obviously hate each other.

    Ellison Calls Challenger ‘A Low-Life Scumbag’ At Debate

    1. pdgrey Avatar
      pdgrey

      Yea, that was bad. I’m kinda of worried about this stupid dinner tonight with all “the rich Catholic right people” at the Alfred E. Smith Dinner. Romney has been out of sight practicing.

      1. RalphB Avatar
        RalphB

        Don’t forget. Isn’t Obama on Jon Stewart’s show tonight?

      2. pdgrey Avatar
        pdgrey

        Obama taped Jon Stewart today, tonight is that stupid dinner.

    2. HT Avatar
      HT

      Honestly I think it’s about time. We liberals hesitate to call out others when they lie, cheat and steal because we don’t want to be viewed as aggressive. The opposition takes advantage of that fear to spread lies and make attacks – most of which are unfounded, but anything to get the lies into print so that their multiple minions via Drudge etc can run with it.

      1. bostonboomer Avatar
        bostonboomer

        I agree!

      2. ANonOMouse Avatar
        ANonOMouse

        I agree 2

      3. pdgrey Avatar
        pdgrey

        me, too! And the best news I heard all day is if Obama wins——

        By Callum Borchers, Globe Correspondent

        Ann Romney said on Thursday that she did not want her husband, Mitt, the Republican nominee for president, to seek the White House again this year and added that if he loses on Nov. 6, the former Massachusetts governor will retire from politics.

        “He will not run again — nor will I do anything like that,” Ann Romney said on ABC’s “The View.”

        1. ecocatwoman Avatar

          This contradicts what Mitt said during the Republican primaries. I swear I remember him saying that Ann told him “America needs you as president.” Paraphrasing, but the gist was that according to MIttens it was Ann who convinced him to run even though she had said after his last run for prez that she wouldn’t do it again. Does anyone in that family ever tell the truth?

      4. HT Avatar
        HT

        I think Ann is dreaming in technicolour. Mitt has devoted his life to running for President. I don’t think he will or can stop. Something about a Mormon as president.

      5. pdgrey Avatar
        pdgrey

        HT, well Mitt was 54 before he could find any qualified women. So I guess he’ll just keep running.

      6. HT Avatar
        HT

        PD, of course, now that Tagg is out there flapping his jaws, perhaps Mitt might step aside to let his son go forward with the Mormon prediction. Always a possibility. Mind you, the few times I’ve seen Tagg, I don’t think he will resonate with the average American.

      7. pdgrey Avatar
        pdgrey

        ecocatwoman, NO one in the republican party can tell the truth. But this family, it is my opinion the Romney’s have bred a strain of liars to spread through out this country worse than the Black Plauge. We’re doomed.

  9. Linda C Avatar
    Linda C

    Just remember the voting machines in Ohio are owned by Romney’s friends. So here we go again, let alone Husted here has been trying to block early voting as well as other chicanery that can only come from an Ohio republican

    1. ecocatwoman Avatar

      Between the voting machines & voter suppression efforts in important states, I don’t think we can put much credence in any of the polls. Likely voters may show up & get turned away. And I feel certain most of those sent home, hat in hand, plan to vote Dem.

  10. janicen Avatar
    janicen

    Anybody watching the Al Smith dinner? I just tuned in and was able to back it up to catch all of Romney’s speech. He’s had a few funny lines but quite a few low blows. He just can’t stop being a bully and it shows.

    1. janicen Avatar
      janicen

      I remember when McCain did it and it came off very funny and warm.

    2. ecocatwoman Avatar

      I agree. He was almost Don Rickles nasty/mean. Some funny stuff – the water/wine, designated driver & white tie & tails is what he wears at home. Guess I’m prejudiced, but I thought Obama was MUCH better.

      1. pdgrey Avatar
        pdgrey

        I thought Obama threw his jokes to himself, Romney’s were mostly at Obama.

    3. pdgrey Avatar
      pdgrey

      I was, janicen, but I really hate these things.

    4. bostonboomer Avatar
      bostonboomer

      I watched it. Romney didn’t smile much and sounded kind of mean. But he had some funny lines. Obama was better I think.

    5. RalphB Avatar
      RalphB

      I liked McCain at the dinner in 2008. He was nice and funny. Still glad he didn;t get elected though 🙂

      1. JJ Lopez Minkoff Avatar

        Me too Ralph.

    6. RalphB Avatar
      RalphB

      Wonder if CNN will do a snap poll of Republicans in Georgia to see who won the dinner 🙂

      1. ecocatwoman Avatar

        LOL. Why aren’t you doing standup?

  11. RalphB Avatar
    RalphB

    RAND American Life tracking poll… Obama 50 Romney 44

    https://mmicdata.rand.org/alp/?page=election

    1. bostonboomer Avatar
      bostonboomer

      Things seem to be turning around. Rachel just said that Romney is now way behind in women in Wisconsin and another state–Iowa?

      1. RalphB Avatar
        RalphB

        Got my fingers crossed!

      2. ANonOMouse Avatar
        ANonOMouse

        Obama takes big lead with women. Finally, something I can believe.

  12. ANonOMouse Avatar
    ANonOMouse

    In case y’all haven’t seen it, Joe Cannon has an update. It was a gag.

    1. pdgrey Avatar
      pdgrey

      Oh, great my glad to hear it but that hooey make me look at TX darling site. I had to bleach my eyeballs!

      1. HT Avatar
        HT

        Yes, but she was a HIllary supporter – really she was, really. /snark It’s amazing the number of sites that were Hillary “supporters” who now spout stuff that Hillary would never be involved with. Great supporters – I wouldn’t want them as friends.

      2. RalphB Avatar
        RalphB

        I don’t want them as friends either. A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

      3. pdgrey Avatar
        pdgrey

        And I am swiftly losing mine 🙂

  13. pdgrey Avatar
    pdgrey

    Lawrence O’Donnell and his guests thought Romney’s jokes were aimed at Obama not himself, too. They said Romney made 8 jokes at Obama and Obama made 3 at Romney.

    1. bostonboomer Avatar
      bostonboomer

      I thought he came across a little mean.

      1. RalphB Avatar
        RalphB

        Did you catch Obama’s joking about Chris Mathews? It was hilarious!

      2. bostonboomer Avatar
        bostonboomer

        Yes, that one was hilarious!

        Hey, I put up another thread. It’s so much fun to have all this discussion today!