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Liveblog II: Okay, so it’s not really a filibuster…

Bernie Sanders isn’t really preventing the Obama-McConnell tax cuts from being voted on. That is supposed to happen on Monday. But who cares? Just killjoys and whiners. The man is still standing after 7+ hours on the Senate floor. His voice sounded a little hoarse for awhile, but right now he’s going strong again.

Why can’t we get Sanders to run for President? He’s a lot more charming than Ralph Nader and he actually cares about the middle class and the poor, unlike the arrogant, cynical, corrupt egomaniac who occupies the White House right now. The fact that only two other Democratic Senators have joined Sanders in his “filibuster” demonstrates to the American people how disgustingly corrupt and immoral our political class is today.

Sanders is talking about real issues that don’t get covered by our corporate media. He has discussed the growth of income equality in America, the lack of attention that has been paid to our infrastructure, the causes of the recent economic emergency, and why Obama’s tax cut bill is wrong and will harm ordinary Americans.

Sanders is talking about usury and how credit card companies are robbing people blind. He says they are “no different that the gangsters who used to beat up people on street corners” for not paying off the loan sharks.

I wonder what Obama and his pals in the White House are thinking about all of this?

Here are some reactions to the “filibuster” that I have found around the blogosphere.

At FDL, David Dayen wrote that

Sanders is calling attention to the massive inequality in America, which will only be stratified further by a tax cut bill that raises taxes from current law for 25 million low-income workers and gives millionaires a tax cut of about $139,000 a person. He’s explaining America’s insane trade policies, which have cut out the American manufacturing base and hollowed out the middle class. He’s taking on corporate CEO pay, and the two-income trap, and basically making the progressive critique of an economy bought and paid for by the very rich….

…you’re seeing issues discussed on the Senate floor that almost never come up in any other context. Political theater is sadly one of the few ways to cut through the clutter in America, and that’s what Sanders is up to, I suspect.

At his Guardian blog, Michael Tomasky wrote:

I can’t count the number of times I’ve heard liberals say, “Reid should just make them filibuster! Make them hold the floor for 24 straight hours, as Strom Thurmond once did. They will look ridiculous to the American people, especially as said people figure out they’re trying to block a relatively inexpensive unemployment benefits extension, and the opposition will crash down like a house of cards.”

In a session with a record number of filibusters threatened and cloture motions filed, it never happened. Almost, once or twice; but it didn’t. So, it’s kind of sad that the only actual filibuster of the whole dysfunctional session is the one happening right now, but it doesn’t involve Republicans at all.

Tomasky likes the tax cut deal, but still…

I admire Sanders, and although I think the deal is pretty good, under the circumstances, and should pass, I do take my hat off to the guy. It’s just nice to see someone taking a stand for the view that upper-income households don’t need a tax cut, and the view that we’re going to have an estate tax that will impact – get this – just 3,500 families in the entire country (see that chart, and look at “taxable returns” for 2011 under the Lincoln-Kyl proposal).

Sanders is not expected to pull a Thurmond. The Senate put together a package last night and this morning that added a few meagre sweeteners for the Democrats (extending subsidies for alternative energy and ethanol that were slated to expire). It will almost surely pass, with most Republicans and enough Democrats. Then, the action moves to the House, where things are a bit iffier but, most suspect, only a bit.

There goes another cynical killjoy. Sanders is doing something truly admirable and he deserves support, if not from other politicians, from us ordinary Americans. Just seeing him do this gives me hope–and not the kind of fake “hope” that Obama sold to the progs. It’s the kind of hope that makes you want to get up and fight for what is right.

At The Nation, John Nichols writes:

After Sanders took the rostrum at 10:24 a.m. Friday, the Vermont Independent posted a message on his his twitter account that read: “You can call what I am doing today whatever you want, you [can] call it a filibuster, you can call it a very long speech…”

Six hours later, Sanders was still speaking. His bold gesture grabbed the attention of the nation, as Senate video servers were overwhelmed when more than 12,000 people tried to watch the speech online.

For all the excitement, Sanders was not actually blocking a vote on the tax deal. The Senate will not take the issue up until Monday, at the earliest.

Sanders was, however, sending a powerful signal about the fight to come.

Nichols also calls attention to

…a letter circulated by Oregon Senator Jeff Merkley and Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu, the senators said: “We have grave misgivings about the recent tax agreement. We hope that the Senate can improve on it. We look forward to working with you to ensure a vote on our amendment to strengthen Social Security in lieu of bonus tax cuts for people who are doing quite well.”

The following Senators have signed the letter:

Merkley, Landrieu. Alaska’s Mark Begich, Hawaii’s Daniel Akaka, Ohio’s Sherrod Brown, Minnesota’s Al Franken, Colorado’s Mark Udall and California’s Barbara Boxer

Nichols suggests that several other Senators might support the sentiments in the letter. The text of the letter is included at the end of the article.

Politifact investigated Sanders’ claims about income inequality and learned that he has been telling the truth. Are you listening corporate media?

Right now, Bernie Sanders is reading from heartrending letters from his constituents. Someone needs to force President Obama to sit down in front of his TV and watch this. He might learn what a real Democrat should look and sound like. Yes, I know Bernie is an independent, but back in the ’40s, ’50s, and ’60s, Democrats he would have fit in in the Democratic Party.

Today, corrupt corporate tools like Barack Obama have the gall to call themselves Democrats. It’s a crying shame what has happened to my former party and my country. Thank you Bernie Sanders for what you are doing today.

Watch Bernie Sanders long, long speech at C-Span 2.

Comments

63 responses to “Liveblog II: Okay, so it’s not really a filibuster…”

  1. bostonboomer Avatar
    bostonboomer

    Go, Bernie, Go!!!!

    1. dakinikat Avatar

      Glad you got this up!! The last one was getting a little long! thx!

      1. bostonboomer Avatar
        bostonboomer

        I got a little carried away looking for blog reactions.

    2. dakinikat Avatar

      http://www.cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN2.aspx

      This is the CSPAN 2 Live stream link.

      1. dakinikat Avatar

        and it’s #filibernie on Twitter!!!

      2. bostonboomer Avatar
        bostonboomer

        Thanks, I’ll add that to the post.

    1. dakinikat Avatar

      good! I voted!

    2. bostonboomer Avatar
      bostonboomer

      Thanks, I just voted.

    3. grayslady Avatar

      Thanks. I voted and was pleased to see that 85% of voters thought what Bernie is doing has value.

      1. zaladonis Avatar
        zaladonis

        86% now

        4200 votes

  2. Dario Avatar
    Dario

    Poll: Obama’s losing support; Romney would beat him now

    WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama’s approval ratings have sunk to the lowest level of his presidency, so low that he’d lose the White House to Republican Mitt Romney if the election were held today, according to a new McClatchy-Marist poll.
    The biggest reason for Obama’s fall: a sharp drop in approval among Democrats and liberals, apparently unhappy with his moves toward the center since he led the party to landslide losses in November’s midterm elections. At the same time, he’s gained nothing among independents.
    “He’s having the worst of both worlds right now,” said Lee Miringoff, the director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion at Marist College in New York, which conducted the national survey.
    “As he moves to the center, he’s not picking up support among independents and he’s having some fall-off among his base. If his strategy is to gain independents and keep the Democrats in tow, it isn’t working so far.”
    The poll was taken from Dec. 2 through Wednesday, as the president proposed a two-year freeze on federal civilian workers’ pay and cut a deal with congressional Republicans to extend expiring tax cuts — even those for the wealthy, which he’d opposed.
    Overall, just 42 percent of registered voters approve of how he’s doing his job, while 50 percent disapprove.

    1. bostonboomer Avatar
      bostonboomer

      Wow, 42%. That’s bad.

      “As he moves to the center, he’s not picking up support among independents and he’s having some fall-off among his base. If his strategy is to gain independents and keep the Democrats in tow, it isn’t working so far.”

      The poll was taken from Dec. 2 through Wednesday, as the president proposed a two-year freeze on federal civilian workers’ pay and cut a deal with congressional Republicans to extend expiring tax cuts — even those for the wealthy, which he’d opposed.

      Overall, just 42 percent of registered voters approve of how he’s doing his job, while 50 percent disapprove.

  3. bluelady Avatar
    bluelady

    OK, taking Bernie’s advice, I’m contacting my rep and senators again.

    I haven’t listened to this much cspan since Byrd was speaking before the war vote.

  4. Pat Johnson Avatar
    Pat Johnson

    Bernie’s still going strong but I have to admit being a more than a little disappointed by Bill’s push for this awful legislation. And a H/T to Charles Krauthamer as well?

    This stuff is getting to be more and more upside down.

    1. dakinikat Avatar

      I know. Very surreal.

    2. grayslady Avatar

      If Bill Clinton is pushing a plan that incorporates a back-door plan to tank SS, he’s lost me forever.

  5. pdgrey Avatar
    pdgrey

    Also bringing this up from down stairs, Please call and support Sen. Sanders. I just called Sen. Sanders office in Vermont. I started telling her thank-you and burst into to tears. She told me thousands of people where calling and then, me knowing the MSM is not letting people know we agree with him, I just fell apart. It is well worth calling. Phone DC: (202) 224-5141
    Phone Vermont: (802) 862-0697

    1. soupcity Avatar
      soupcity

      Just tried to call both numbers..both busy. Will keep trying but that’s a good sign I think.

  6. grayslady Avatar

    Love Bernie’s sarcasm in saying that he’s proposing a radical idea by suggesting that the responsibility of Congress is to represent the middle class, not just the very rich.

  7. bostonboomer Avatar
    bostonboomer

    I’m disappointed in Bill Clinton for supporting this. But it’s still kind of funny that Obama had to call him for help.

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/10/bill-clinton-holds-court-in-impromptu-white-house-news-conference/?hp

    1. bostonboomer Avatar
      bostonboomer

      The president stood by Mr. Clinton’s side for several minutes as Mr. Clinton held court in front of the White House logo that often hovered behind him a decade ago.

      But after Mr. Clinton began taking questions, the current president excused himself, saying that his wife, Michelle, expected Mr. Obama’s presence at one of the many holiday parties that presidents host during the month of December.

      “I’ve been keeping the first lady waiting,” Mr. Obama said, excusing himself.

      “I don’t want to make her mad,” Mr. Clinton said. “Please go.”

      And with that, Mr. Obama departed, leaving Mr. Clinton to continue his extended conversation with the media.

      Why not just let Bill take over and Obama can go to parties with Mrs. Obama to his heart’s content.

      1. Fannie Avatar
        Fannie

        what’s the link to this bit about Obama not wanting to keep Michelle waiting?

        1. bostonboomer Avatar
          bostonboomer

          Link is in the previous comment.

      2. Minkoff Minx Avatar

        I just saw this video, I put a link to it down at bottom. So much going on….

  8. dakinikat Avatar

    Kinda cute and being passed around the Twitterverse!!!

    http://isberniesandersstilltalking.com/

  9. grayslady Avatar

    Glad to hear Bernie talking about the real purpose of the payroll tax “holiday”–to eliminate SS!

    1. Woman Voter Avatar

      Yes, indeed, Dak touched on that in the past and I AGREE!

      Senator Bernie Sanders was a very good speaker and had a full grasp of the subject matter and spoke with passion caring for his fellow Americans.

      (((clapping for Bernie))) Well done!

  10. fiscalliberal Avatar
    fiscalliberal

    I do not watch anything any more with Obama as I find him to be full of a lot of statements but little substance. I find it interesting that Obama admits that the Republicans have him over the barrel which is a direct admission that he is not up to the job. Now he has to beg for the Clinton aura to try to get his fisaco through.

    Just like George Bush, history will not be kind to Obama.

  11. grayslady Avatar

    Just wanted to say I’m so proud that Sky Dancing is liveblogging Sanders’ speech. We’re one of the very few doing so.

    1. soupcity Avatar
      soupcity

      It is great, isn’t it? Thanks to all at Sky Dancing.

    2. dakinikat Avatar

      Thank you! BostonBoomer is really the brain behind live blogging this and many other things including the Green Revolution. I think she’s right that it’s important to have a place to really discuss what’s going on right now. Blogging should be a conversation.

      1. Woman Voter Avatar

        (((clapping for DAK AND BB!)))

        GOOD ON YA!

  12. bluelady Avatar
    bluelady

    How could anyone not be listening to this? I keep going Yesss! when he makes one good point after another. I’m ready to join the Bernie Sander’s Party.

  13. Sima Avatar
    Sima

    Those letters from his constituents made me cry.

    And I keep choking up, feeling pride. He’s saying what we’ve all wanted said! At least some people are listening. We suddenly have a voice!

    As Dak said, he’s making me feel hopeful, hopeful about fighting and being able to fight.

    1. Woman Voter Avatar

      I know, the stories of those barely making it, are the same that Obama let down by blocking the Public Option for his GOP, Insurance Companies, and Wall Street Greedos. 😥

      95% of the calls received by Senator Bernie Sanders office are NOT IN FAVOR OF EXTENDING THE BUSH TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH by Obama.

    2. Minkoff Minx Avatar

      Wow, I can’t wait for a free TV….dang I am missing this. I have to see if I can find it online. Anybody know of a place?

  14. dakinikat Avatar

  15. grayslady Avatar

    Every time Sanders says that the proposed tax cuts don’t benefit the middle class, it’s a direct slap at Obama saying that he (Obama) is now the great defender of the middle class–against us angry liberals.

  16. dakinikat Avatar

    He’s concluding his day’s efforts.

  17. Sima Avatar
    Sima

    I think he’s finishing now? He’s gone for 8 hours or so.

    1. dakinikat Avatar

      yeah, he just yielded the floor.

      1. bostonboomer Avatar
        bostonboomer

        Too bad.

  18. Sima Avatar
    Sima

    You know, I’m hoping it was just a dress rehearsal for the HUGE filibuster when the vote is called. I know it’s unlikely, but wow, that would be cool.

    He said what needed to be said. I hope ‘they’ listen.

  19. dakinikat Avatar

    The Congressional Black Caucus does not like the current tax plan. They have announced that the vast majority of their membership are opposed. Here’s their presser that presents an alternative.

    1. Sima Avatar
      Sima

      Watching it now. It’s like the sleeping liberal lion is finally awakening after having been kicked for so long by blue dogs and republican rats.

      Time to fight to make the lion’s bite really feared.

      1. grayslady Avatar

        It’s interesting, but when you mentioned the sleeping liberal lion, I couldn’t help but remember another incredible Senate speech (although much shorter than Bernie’s), and that was when Teddy Kennedy took the floor and railed at any of his fellow senators who were prepared to vote against an increase in the minimum wage. Kennedy was really angry that day, and he did resemble a fierce lion when he spoke.

        1. Beata Avatar
          Beata

          I have been remembering that Kennedy speech all day.

          1. grayslady Avatar

            Thanks, Beata. He was brilliant that day.

          2. soupcity Avatar
            soupcity

            One of my favorite speeches..ever. I can’t help but feel if (despite his Obama love or whatever that was) he would not be standing for this crap sandwich we are being fed.

            Thank you Sen. Sanders for making us feel better than we have in a long time. Job well done!

  20. bostonboomer Avatar
    bostonboomer
  21. Minkoff Minx Avatar

    Geez, I have been away from the computer…WTF is going on? I got so much to catch up on. Someone may have posted this link, but did you see this?

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/12/10/obama_ditches_tax_cut_presser_after_bill_clinton_takes_control.html

    Obama walked out of the press conference? and left Clinton to answer questions?

    1. dakinikat Avatar

      White House Staff Christmas party. Said he didn’t want to keep Michelle waiting …

      1. Thursday's Child Avatar
        Thursday’s Child

        And they said it was Hillary who could only do tea parties.

    2. zaladonis Avatar
      zaladonis

      Nice to see Bill standing there again. Looks like he enjoyed it too.

      And of course there was Obama’s fake flash smile.

    3. RalphB Avatar
      RalphB

      Great Obama abdicated his position so Bill can be President again. Yay!

  22. pdgrey Avatar
    pdgrey

    The following is Snark. UPI Wire. stop. In a bizarre accident today. stop. Obama supporters started a stampede at wifi computers connections all over the country. stop. Supporters wearing T-shirts with “Kick Me” written on the front and “She’s just the Same” on the back”, stop. Have not yet been explained the meaning. stop. One supporter was over heard saying “But Mark Penn backs Obama, what do we do now?” stop. Reporters at the scene were frantically trying to understand what had just happened. stop. Film at 11.

    1. Sima Avatar
      Sima

      snicker.

      I’m wondering if I should listen to Sanders speech again and pick out the good points. Of course, it was about 8 straight hours of good points.

      Hopefully his office’ll have a fact sheet. I want to print it off and give it to my friends, maybe post it to the windows of my car.

      1. bostonboomer Avatar
        bostonboomer

        He did repeat a lot, so you could start at the beginning and then skip over quite a bit.

  23. Sima Avatar
    Sima

    I might set myself this task then, if his office doesn’t do so in the next few days. Something to do while I wait for the ark to arrive (forecasts are for major flooding rains in the PacNW this weekend).

    1. NW Luna Avatar
      NW Luna

      A wet, wet weekend for us upper left-hand corner people. Predicted 1 to 3 inches down in the lowlands, 3 to 8 inches of rain up in the mountains.

      Stay out of basements.

  24. kiki Avatar
    kiki

    hey BB! and Kat! like your place here, good stuff 🙂

    except…uhh, well…..did you have to diss my man Ralph Nader? he is SO charming!! I’ve loved that man since I was a young girl, and have been honored to vote for him a couple of times. I like the heck out of Bernie Sanders too though!

    keep up the good work, glad to see y’all!!!

    1. dakinikat Avatar

      Hi!!! Good to see you! Please visit a lot!!!