Open Thread: Joe Biden falls asleep during Obama’s deficit speech

Salon says that

Most politicos watched with rapt attention this afternoon as President Obama delivered a seminal speech on the national debt. But what of Joe Biden? The half-hour address was apparently a little too much for the vice president, who was caught on camera getting some shut-eye.

I don’t know about “rapt attention.” Timmy Geitner doesn’t look all that alert to me, and the woman sitting kitty-corner behind Biden looks sleepy too.


A Bad Deal All Around?

Putting on a happy face?

Maybe the rebellion of House Democrats will rescue President Obama from himself. Paul Krugman has looked at the numbers and concludes that the tax cut deal may provide some stimulus to the economy, but in the end it will likely hurt Obama’s chances of reelection in 2012. (Thanks to Dakinikat for pointing me to Krugman’s post.) Krugman writes:

Look at the Zandi estimates: they show a boost to the economy in 2011, which is then given back in 2012. So growth is actually slower in 2012 than it would be without the deal.

Now, what we know from lots of political economy research — Larry Bartels is my guru on this — is that presidential elections depend, not on the state of the economy, but on whether things are getting better or worse in the year or so before the election. The unemployment rate in October 1984 was almost the same as the rate in October 1980 — but Carter was thrown out by voters who saw things getting worse, while for Reagan it was morning in America.

Put these two observations together — and what you get is that the tax-cut deal makes Obama’s reelection less likely. Let me repeat: the tax cut deal makes Obama less likely to win in 2012.

Krugman concludes that because the stimulative parts of the bill–the unemployment extension and the cuts in payroll taxes–will expire after about a year, the economy will improve temporarily in 2011 and then go downhill before the 2012 election:

Won’t that put the Dems in a desperate position? Won’t Obama be strongly tempted to make further big concessions to get something to boost the economy for another year?

Um…is the Pope Catholic? Does a bear sh*t in the woods?

David Dayen agrees:

A “deal” that, due to its structure, will likely hurt the President’s re-election prospects and sets up future political battles in which the President will have an even weaker negotiating hand is simply not a good deal. There is no way to not see this as a huge political and policy win for the GOP. . . after all, their big “concession” to Obama was a payroll tax cut–a Republican idea to begin with.

Suzanne Malveaux has an interesting article up at CNN on the White House reaction to the House uprising.

The White House is putting on a brave face in the midst of a congressional revolt, led by its own party, against the president’s tax-cut deal.
In the latest move by angry Democrats, House lawmakers are refusing to bring Obama’s controversial tax bill to the floor. As some political observers saw all legislative hell breaking out, the White House continued to make painstaking efforts to paint a rosy picture.

She concludes the piece by suggesting that Obama and Biden may have eaten crow at their weekly lunch today.

I can’t help it. I’m getting my hopes up that this rebellion is more than kabuki. I’m just a born optimist.

The Detroit Free Press quotes John Conyers:

“We refuse to allow the well-being of the nation to be held hostage by those who promote the interests of millionaires and billionaires,” Conyers said today. “This truly is a fight for the heart and soul of the Democratic Party and our great country.”

But the White House is determined to save the “compromise” agreement:

It was unclear how much of the deal would have to change to meet House approval, but – with the agreement expected to be acted on soon in the Senate – Gibbs made it clear that the White House is open to change only if it’s agreeable to all parties. In the meantime, it has been gathering statements of support from across the nation, including those from Detroit Mayor Dave Bing and Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm.

“If we don’t get something done this year I think everyone will be blamed,” Gibbs said.

Is it possible that House Democrats really mean it this time? Is it possible that Obama might back down if he realizes the economy will hurt his reelection chances if this bill passes?


News for those not Interested in Death and Sex Watches

or When Will Journalists actually Report Real News?

pig3So for those that don’t want to see the People Magazine section on the front page of every news paper and as the lead in to every TV news item, let’s look at some real news.

Climate Change : The American Clean Energy and Security Act:

Should we be questioning the Climate Change Numbers? Surprise from the WSJ? Not. It’s still an interesting read in light of the Waxman-Markey attempt to push through cap and trade.

The Climate Change Climate Change: The number of skeptics is swelling everywhere.

Among the many reasons President Barack Obama and the Democratic majority are so intent on quickly jamming a cap-and-trade system through Congress is because the global warming tide is again shifting. It turns out Al Gore and the United Nations (with an assist from the media), did a little too vociferous a job smearing anyone who disagreed with them as “deniers.” The backlash has brought the scientific debate roaring back to life in Australia, Europe, Japan and even, if less reported, the U.S.

In April, the Polish Academy of Sciences published a document challenging man-made global warming. In the Czech Republic, where President Vaclav Klaus remains a leading skeptic, today only 11% of the population believes humans play a role. In France, President Nicolas Sarkozy wants to tap Claude Allegre to lead the country’s new ministry of industry and innovation. Twenty years ago Mr. Allegre was among the first to trill about man-made global warming, but the geochemist has since recanted. New Zealand last year elected a new government, which immediately suspended the country’s weeks-old cap-and-trade program.

Greenpeace opposes Waxman-Markey

“Since the Waxman-Markey bill left the Energy and Commerce committee, yet another fleet of industry lobbysists has weakened the bill even more, and further widened the gap between what Waxman-Markey does and what science demands. As a result, Greenpeace opposes this bill in its current form. We are calling upon Congress to vote against this bill unless substantial measures are taken to strengthen it. Despite President Obama’s assurance that he would enact strong, science-based legislation, we are now watching him put his full support behind a bill that chooses politics over science, elevates industry interests over national interest, and shows the significant limitations of what this Congress believes is possible. “As it comes to the floor, the Waxman-Markey bill sets emission reduction targets far lower than science demands, then undermines even those targets with massive offsets. The giveaways and preferences in the bill will actually spur a new generation of nuclear and coal-fired power plants to the detriment of real energy solutions. To support such a bill is to abandon the real leadership that is called for at this pivotal moment in history. We simply no longer have the time for legislation this weak.

I would hate to see this piece of legislation move through the House of Representatives with out media coverage and robust discussion. You’ll remember that I explained cap and trade earlier in case you want a review.

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