Joe Biden: “I have had it up to here with that notion of 47 percent.”
Posted: October 11, 2012 Filed under: 2012 presidential campaign, U.S. Economy, U.S. Military, U.S. Politics | Tags: Joe Biden, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, the 47 percent, VP debate 2012 44 CommentsI thought Joe Biden won the debate tonight because he was able to bring Mitt Romney’s 47% comments up and elaborate on them in an emotional way at least three times. It might have been four, I’m not sure. He said that Romney was talking about Biden’s parents, the soldiers serving overseas, and so on. He rubbed Ryan’s face in it and on top of that he brought up Ryan’s 30% of Americans are takers comments.
I also loved the way Biden focused on Mitt Romney, not Paul Ryan. He brought everything back to Romney and the issues Romney has committed himself to.
I thought Biden hit all the right notes, and he wasn’t afraid to be expressive. Ryan, on the other hand, mouthed talking points and fell back on his usual verbal tics, like “What we’re saying is…” I thought Ryan was especially bad when he was talking about Iran, Afghanistan, and Syria. He looked like a fool claiming that the Iranians already have five nuclear weapons, and Biden spell out the facts pretty clearly. On Syria, Ryan offered no specifics about what Romney and he would do differently, and on Afghanistan he was simply incoherent.
I’m sorry I missed the open threads. I watched the debate with my brother and sister-in-law. But I plan to read all the comments tonight and tomorrow to see what you all thought.
Here are a few links to reactions to the debate in case anyone wants to keep discussing it. I will probably be up for another hour or so.
TPM: Biden Pins Ryan Down on Taxes — ‘Oh, Now You’re Jack Kennedy?’
Joe Biden came ready to talk taxes during Thursday’s vice presidential debate, charging at Paul Ryan full speed over his campaign’s vague answers as to how they would pay for a 20 percent tax cut across all income brackets that nonpartisan analysts claim is mathematically unworkable.
Moderator Martha Raddatz began by pressing Ryan on the issue, saying he’s “refused to offer specifics” on how he would pay for the cuts.Ryan responded that “we want to have a big bipartisan agreement” and would work out the details later, citing Ronald Reagan’s 1986 reforms as a model.
“We want to work with Congress on how best to achieve this,” he said.
“Let me have a chance to translate,” Biden said. “I was there with Ronald Reagan. He gave specifics in terms of tax expenditures.”
I had to hand it to Martha Raddatz on that one. I suppose the Republicans will be outraged, and I say good! Let them clutch their pearls and retire to the fainting couch. Let’s have more women moderators!
Salon: Biden: Ryan “sent me two letters” asking for stimulus.
That was another good line for Biden!
NBC News: Biden plays aggressor in debate as Ryan makes GOP case.
Politico: Ryan camp not satisfied with Raddatz.
Oh, boo hoo…
Have you seen any good reactions? I’ll keep looking around. I’m too hyped up to sleep right now.
Obviously, this is an open thread!






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