Monday Reads
Posted: October 29, 2012 Filed under: 2012 elections, Libya, morning reads | Tags: Andrew Sullivan, Benghazi, Ohio, Romney Campaign Lies 105 Comments
Good Morning!!!
All things surrounding the elections are now up to 11. I’ve seen some weird things in my days but I’m beginning to check my history books for more bizarre examples of crazy campaign antics. Andrew Sullivan turned my last week’s observation of the similarities between the election maps of 2012 and those of the US directly before the civil war into a national conversation yesterday on ABC. I’m just pointing to ABC right now because I’ve had enough virtual visitations from the KKK for the time being.
During this Sunday’s edition of ABC’s This Week, Daily Beast writer Andrew Sullivan claimed that if Republican nominee Mitt Romney wins back Florida and Virginia in the upcoming 2012 presidential election, especially due to the white vote, then the South’s electoral map will look exactly like the pro-slavery United States Confederacy during the Civil War.
This observation came in response to host George Stephanopoulos noting that the latest polls show that six out of ten white Americans intend to vote for Romney.
PBS reporter Gwen Ifill said that “we can’t ignore” the possible factor racial animus may play in deciding the election, noting that the poll indicates that, on some level, people are still willing to admit “racial bias.”
Sullivan then added: “If Virginia and Florida go back to the Republicans, it’s the Confederacy. Entirely. You put a map of the Civil War over this electoral map, you’ve got the Civil War.”
Perhaps we all really need to have a big conversation on racism in America. It appears white people think they are victims of racism while still using racial stereotypes for people of color. I’m confused. Hasn’t any one had read any literature or history on institutional racism. White people screaming racism is about like the current crop of republican men shouting they’re victims of misogyny.
Racial prejudice has increased slightly since 2008 whether those feelings were measured using questions that explicitly asked respondents about racist attitudes, or through an experimental test that measured implicit views toward race without asking questions about that topic directly.
Fifty-one percent of Americans now express explicit anti-black attitudes, compared with 48 percent in a similar 2008 survey. When measured by an implicit racial attitudes test, the number of Americans with anti-black sentiments jumped to 56 percent, up from 49 percent during the last presidential election. In both tests, the share of Americans expressing pro-black attitudes fell.
“As much as we’d hope the impact of race would decline over time … it appears the impact of anti-black sentiment on voting is about the same as it was four years ago,” said Jon Krosnick, a Stanford University professor who worked with AP to develop the survey.
Most Americans expressed anti-Hispanic sentiments, too. In an AP survey done in 2011, 52 percent of non-Hispanic whites expressed anti-Hispanic attitudes. That figure rose to 57 percent in the implicit test. The survey on Hispanics had no past data for comparison.
The AP surveys were conducted with researchers from Stanford University, the University of Michigan and NORC at the University of Chicago.
The Romney campaign continues its strategy of lying by planning on using an ad in Ohio about a false, conspiracy theory on a jeep plant closing to move to China. It’s been completely denied, debunked, and disproved so, Romney’s continuing to put it out there. They’ve even put together an ad.
As you may have heard, Romney on Thursday scared the bejeezus out of Ohio autoworkers when, during arally, he cited a story claiming that Chrysler was moving Jeep production to China. Thousands of people work at a sprawling Jeep complex in Toledo and a nearby machining plant. Many thousands more work for suppliers or have jobs otherwise dependent on the Jeep factories. It’s fair to say that they owe their jobs to President Obama, who in 2009 rescued Chrysler and General Motors from likely liquidation. If Chrysler moved the plants overseas, most of those people would be out of work.
The story turns out to be wrong. As Chrysler made clear the very next day, in a tartly worded blog post on the company website, officials have discussed opening plants in China in order to meet rising demand for vehicles there. They have no plans to downsize or shutter plants in the U.S. On the contrary, Fiat, the Italian company that acquired Chrysler during the rescue, just spent $1.7 billion to expand Jeep production in the U.S. That includes $500 million to renovate and expand the Toledo facilities, with 1,000 new factory jobs likely to follow. On Monday, about the same number of people will report for their first day of work in Detroit, when Chrysler adds a third shift to a Jeep plant it operates there.
This is as bad as all the false narratives out there being repeated about Benghazi including the completely false narrative that Hillary Clinton asked for more security and Obama denied it. Then, there’s the they didn’t send the military in to help meme that points to the White House too. All of this is patently false but still harped on by Romney surrogates. The desperation of Romney supporters is evident in all these lies. That and the contempt they must have for the American people. Even former Bush SOS Condi Rice says these Republican narratives are ridiculous.
It is being charged that requests for extra security in Benghazi were denied by the administration.
The suggestion is that the attack would have been stopped, and the ambassador still alive, if the requests had been granted.
But at a hearing of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee this month, Charlene Lamb, the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and head of the Bureau of Diplomatic Security, testified that the request was for added security in Tripoli, the capital of Libya, and not Benghazi.
The added manpower would have been based 400 miles away from the violence.
In addition, U.S. security officials report more guards could not have repelled heavy weapons used by the attackers.
The Wall Street Journal has reported “a four-man team of armed guards protecting the perimeter and four unarmed Libyan guards inside to screen visitors.”
In addition, “Besides the four armed Libyans outside, five armed State Department diplomatic security officers were at the consulate.”
There is an air of hypocrisy about this second charge from Republican critics.
House Republicans voted to cut nearly $300 million in funding from Embassy Security as part of their most recent budget.
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) conceded this in a CNN interview.
“Absolutely. Look, we have to make priorities and choices in this country… When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices how to prioritize this.”
Dean Baker has an excellent article up on the future of Social Security and Why Big Bucks Donors don’t like political discussions that strongly support the program. He argues that any highly vocal support of Social Security by Obama would dry up his campaign contributions.
But there is another set of economic considerations affecting the politics of social security. These considerations involve the economics of the political campaigns and the candidates running for office. The story here is a simple one: while social security may enjoy overwhelming support across the political spectrum, it does not poll nearly as well among the wealthy people – who finance political campaigns and own major news outlets. The predominant philosophy among this group is that a dollar in a workers’ pocket is a dollar that could be in a rich person’s pocket – and these people see social security putting lots of dollars in the pockets of people who are not rich.
Cutting back benefits could mean delays in repaying the government bonds held by the Trust Fund . The money to repay these bonds would come primarily from a relatively progressive income tax revenue. The wealthy certainly don’t want to see changes like raising the cap on wages that are subject to the social security tax, which is currently just over $110,000.
For this reason, a candidate who comes out for protecting social security can expect to see a hit to their campaign contributions. They also can anticipate being beaten up in both the opinion and news sections of major media outlets. While, in principle, these are supposed to be kept strictly separate, the owners and/or top management of most news outlets feel no qualms about removing this separation when it comes to social security – and using news space to attack those who defend social security.
So, that’s my offerings this morning. What’s on your reading and blogging list today?
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The Fox Media Monopoly has done its job. It lies 24/7 & it drives the political discussion in all media outlets. In addition, should any other media not adopt the Fox storyline, then it’s liberal media & cannot be trusted. I wish someone would do a poll, speaking to tens of thousands of Americans asking them what tv, radio stations they listen to, what newspapers, websites & blogs they read on a daily basis & which “news” person/people they most trust. Long gone are the days when most Americans trusted Walter Cronkite and news people like him. I think the independents are either too overwhelmed trying to keep their lives afloat or try to listen to all sides & are simply confused by the coverage. And just too many people are looking for someone to blame for all that’s wrong with the world & their lives and someone – a knight in shining armor – who will save them. Fox has managed to deflect the blame from the real culprits – the manipulating plutocrats – and managed to divide & conquer the American people. Blame those “others”, whether they be women, the poor or people of color. As long as Americans are fighting amongst themselves, the plutocrats can continue to rape, pillage & plunder with impunity. It’s no wonder America resembles pre-Civil War – it’s when we were most divided, not unlike today.
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I am deeply disturbed by this morning’s polls showing Romney pulling ahead nationally and in the key states.
How can this be happening? This man is a proven liar and it seems to have no bearing on half the public. It seems that as of today that 50.1% he is pushing for may well be within his reach.
This storm may be all he needs to push this over the top.
I can’t begin to describe my anxiety one week out from an election that is considered this close with a candidate who by every measure is not to be trusted on any level yet here it is.
I agree it shouldn’t be this close but the plutocrats have been working on their plan to kill democracy for many, many years. Each year another nail or two in the coffin.
I could never imagine that anyone as clueless, stupid & embarrassing as W could become president. That he had 2 terms made me firmly believe we are living in some lower level of hell & I don’t even believe in hell. But what better proof is there that the devil exists than the Dickest of All – Dick Cheney.
My only solace? I’m 62 & don’t expect to live more than another 10 or so years. If Romney wins I may up the ante to two packs of cigarettes a day.
“If Romney wins I may up the ante to two packs of cigarettes a day.”
Abandoned smoking 35 years ago, make my escape a Michelob.
“I agree it shouldn’t be this close but the plutocrats have been working on their plan to kill democracy for many, many years”
Agree eco……They want a return to the plantation lifestyle, where there was the aristocracy and the rest of us. They don’t really care what color we are, they use that to gin up control. They are only interested in how we can be used for their enrichment and comfort.
me too Pat.
Which polls show Romney ahead in key states? Individual polls are pretty random. Have you looked at the sites that aggregate results? Obama was ahead just about everywhere as of late last night, including in the Reuters Ipsos national poll. You can’t trust either Gallup or Pew.
Also, national polls really don’t matter at this point. As you’ve pointed out BB, the swing state polls do matter, and Obama is far ahead in early voting by a margin of 2-1 and also ahead in most of the polls, I’ve only seen 1 poll that had Obama and Romney tied in Ohio and that, when compared to other Ohio polls, looks to be an abberation. It’s not abnormal for state polls to close in the last week, but Ohio has consistently been in the Obama column. I think Obama will win Ohio (despite what it’s lamebrain governor says), Iowa will go Obama, possibly VA too. WI,although both it and MN are tightening, will go to Obama, NV will go to Obama, CO is a tossup, and FL is close but it looks like there’s a heavy lean to Romney, still I wouldn’t count it out because of Souls to the Polls and the Obama Florida ground game.
After election 2000, nothing would surprise me, but I feel confident that Obama will win this thing.
Pat said she saw swing state polls with Romney ahead. As far as I know he’s only ahead in North Carolina and tied in Iowa and Colorado.
Though I have no use for Andrew Sullivan, I have to admit that what he has said about the southern voters is pretty accurate.
We have come to expect that the southern states can be counted as those in the GOP camp. They are still fighting the Civil War. Just listen to so many of their congressional reps who do not bother to hide their racial bias, their defense of the NRA, their religious interpretations, and their resentment of anything they consider “liberal”.
The fact that so many of these people live near or close to the poverty line would have a normal person wondering why they would be so eager to vote against their own self interests unless you factor in the “race card” which has been thrown around so much in the last 4 years that it leaves no doubt.
I am pretty much demoralized at this date in time when the polls are showing a definite leaning to this horrible man and a party he represents that is so radical in the extreme as to be frightening.
I keep asking the same question over and over: how can this be happening?
I realize this is anecdotal evidence, but I am more inclined to trust what I see with my own eyes rather than what the media and pollsters tell me to think. I took a ride west yesterday to visit my daughter at college. Since it would be our last chance to appreciate the beautiful foliage we took some back roads through ultra conservative territory. What really lifted my spirits was that every Romney/Ryan sign we saw was matched by an Obama/Biden sign. The numbers were the same, we started counting as soon as we noticed. It told me not only that there is support for Obama in some unexpected places, but that there is a strong Obama/Biden operation in Virginia. Stronger than I have seen in the twenty plus years I have been a Virginia resident. The polls and media are wrong. Virginia will be blue. I have no doubt.
Keep that anecdotal evidence coming!!!! I believe it’s very close, but I’m still optimistic.
Just about every poll favors Obama too. Keep in mind that a lead of 2 percentage points at this point in the campaign is almost impossible to overcome.
“The polls and media are wrong. Virginia will be blue. I have no doubt.’
i’m not as sure as you are Janicen, but I think it is likely going to go Obama. Again we get back to that huge pool of untapped voters that cannot be polled because they don’t have landlines most of them demographically Obama voters. That, to my mind, will prove to be the undoing of most of this years polling organizations.
That is very good news, Janice. Thanks for sharing your personal experience with us.
I love hearing from people on the ground! Based on the polls, I also believe VA will go for Obama.
Lots of Obama/Biden signs and bumper stickers here, too, but I live in Indiana’s version of Berkeley. The students do seem more energized about voting for Obama than they were earlier in the year. I think the radical right-wing agenda of the GOP is scaring them, as well it should.
Doncha know, Pat, that those white people are poor because them colored folk get preferential treatment & get the good schooling & jobs they was entitled to? (bad English/grammar is intentional, btw) The colored folks & the wimmen folk just don’t know their place no more. Never shoulda given them the damn vote. Wonder how the violence against women stats are doing during this contentious election?
If what I am reading and hearing is true then half the voting population favors:
1. the end of Planned Parenthood and less access to healthcare.
2. accepting the theory that climate change is a hoax and the change in the atmosphere is “god” showing displeasure.
3. that women’s bodies the violence perpetrated against them is really a “blessing” and a zygote must be protected at all costs.
4. deregulation of the air and water supplies is the only way to “create jobs” regardless of the risks.
5. education should include “creationism” alonside science and higher education should only be reserved for those who can “afford it”.
6. that “wars” make us stronger.
7. that the wealthy should be spared in this march to austerity.
8. that seniors who have not “planned in advance” be left to their own devices.
9. that the sick and the handicapped who have not “planned in advance” be left to their own devices.
10. that “suffering” must be endured because it has been decreed by an unseen being.
11. that every citizen hold the right to arm themselves with semi automatic weapons.
12. that outright lies don’t matter as long as “your guy” gets what he wants.
13. that contraception in any form should be banned.
14. that gays are an abomination and should be cast from society.
15. that government programs like FEMA should be eliminated and left to the states who will have even less money to recover from disasters.
16. that unions are “evil” and the workers should consider themselves “lucky” to have a job without benefits or safety measures.
17. that the SC appointees will be in the hands of this hateful group.
I could go on but why bother. My faith in commonsense is evaporating. I keep asking why anyone could support this ticket whose agenda is the opposite of what government has provided with a candidate at the helm who has never met a lie he could not use.
The man himself is a well known liar and though this has been repeatedly proven half this nation is willing to put their future into his hands and the hands of those who will surely make these proposals come true.
It is beyond reason that this should be happening.
Fine, let’s drown ourselves in the same bigotry we ascribe to others and cling to the notion that all southerners are dumb. Meanwhile we’ll keep repeating skewed and bogus polls that reinforce what we insist on believing.
I’m afraid I have to excuse myself from this pointless and insulting discussion.
I am pointing out the agenda of the GOP and the platform these candidates represent.
Half the population includes ALL states across the nation whose voting public – as seen from the polls in Ohio alone – support these proposals and the candidate himself.
But it also cannot be denied that most of the southern states are counted within the “red” column even before the first vote is cast. Just as MA, NY, and CA are automatically considered “blue”.
When you come right down to it, the only states that make a difference are those “battleground states” totaling between 6-8 who have shown a propensity to go against the current every now and then.
The voting demographic across the nation cannot be overlooked considering that the economic and social issues touches each and every voter regardless of where they live.
I haven’t checked, Pat, but I believe the South went solidly for GWB as well, except for Gore in FL. We are marked by our history, but we are not the “Evil South” as I read in a commenting section a while ago. Conservative, fundamental, and Catholic churches, and now evangelicals, also play into southerners’ conservative voting choices. I will remind you that racial bias occurs all over this country (Arizona’s hispanic bias), but I concede more concentration exists in the South. I think it’s unfair to pin Obama’s loss on the South before the election results are in. Romney and Ryan are not southerners, I’ll remind you.
I think what I am trying to say, and perhaps not doing a very good job in doing so, is that the same economic and social issues are as relevant down South as it is in the North. In other words, we all share the same policies and issues that play a huge role in living within the boundaries of this nation.
Yet as fundamental as these issues are to each and every American counted within that 98%, we don’t share the same concerns.
If Social Security, as one example, is turned into a voucher, then it will effect every person in every state regardless. Yet while this may be true, a segment of the nation appears to be willing to set this aside and go along with those who desire to rid the system of the one working assurance that they will have a safety net awaiting them at the end of their working lives.
The same can be said for women’s rights. Women live in all 50 states but some states show a complete disregard for those rights judging by the polticians they have elected to represent them. Many of these states have severely restricted access to women who desire to make their own decisons about their own bodies without outside interference.
There is a difference in the way of thinking and I admit I have no easy answers.
“There is a difference in the way of thinking and I admit I have no easy answers.”
I agree, there absolutely is a difference in the way of thinking and it is quantifiable because if it wasn’t the Southern Strategy wouldn’t work. The racial dog whistling, the anti-gay, anti-choice and the “severly conservative” religious right crapola doesn’t work in much of the country, but is works brilliantly in most of the South and the cowboy states. I wish I could say otherwise, but it is what it is.
“but I concede more concentration exists in the South.”
As much as we hate to admit it, and would love to deny it, we’ve seen it. Perhaps a little more cleverly veiled than in our youth, but sadly, to much of the south is still in the grip.
Your state is more purple than my blood red state, but I have hope for your state, in our lifetime. I have little hope for mine.
My question is, WTF is the GOP going to do with the fast approaching demographic shift? When black and Latino’s and other minorities reach equal footing as a percentage of the overall southern population? It’s coming!!!!
Why are you guys assuming Obama will lose? How is Romney going to turn around 7-8 states in 7 days?
I don’t know, mouse. At the same time, I am hearing, along with other media bashing, Brit Andy knock my region without any understanding of the struggle through this history we’ve lived and worked to become more (moderately) progressive (in my state as I’ve previously explained), and, at the same time, I’m trying to distance myself from the possibility of a republican winning the governorship. We’ve had a few republican governors, but, as you know, in 2010 republicans won majorities in our legislature for the first time in about 125 years. We could be solidly red this time around, except for U.S. Senator Kay Hagan. Yet, I know we, in this state, have resilience and will fight back as much as we can against god, the extreme right, and foxnews.
I refuse to get down into the dumps over this state situation. We shall return.
“Why are you guys assuming Obama will lose? How is Romney going to turn around 7-8 states in 7 days?”
Not me BB, I’m still Feeling Good! 🙂 I’m in it to win it.
Maybe they have a zombie potion … instead of eating other people’s brains you eat your own and vote Romney and at the same time you scream you’re the only one loyal to Hillary and the collapse of our civilization paves the way for her to be president in 2016.
I am watching Flight of the Living Dead … I’m pretty sure it’s about the Romney campaign plane.
Charles Pierce eviscerates and mocks the Des Moines Register’s endorsement of Romney, with emphasis on the Register’s obvious ignorance about Romney’s record in MA and why we all “hate him with the heat of a million suns.”
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/des-moines-register-endorses-romney-14210493
As usual Charles does a great job.
God, I loved this line
the Voice Of The Corndog base its unprecedented feat of hayshaking
This one is a killer. too!
which is another reason why we, in Massachusetts, hate him with the heat of a million suns.
I wish i could write like this
Seriously, TV bookers: It is no longer a big “get” to land McCain or Gingrich. The two of them would wrestle a snake naked if they thought they’d get 15 minutes on Animal Planet. Expand the damn Rolodex, will you?
Wow … my belly hurts after laughing hard while reading that …
The strategy the GOP is using in the South is definitely the Southern strategy which in 2012 is a combination of religious domionionsim and self-righteousness that’s coalescing against choice and gay rights, a predominantly white ruling class that wants to stay that way, and a yearning for the society of the 1950’s (most of the yearning is being done by people who didn’t live in the 50’s). Yes, there’s an abudance of racism in the south, there’s racism all over the U.S., but the southern strategy works for a reason.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021649852
Jimmy Crow one more time, Doonebury
They are using the southern strategy in the north too.
and its working up there in places too …
From Sam Wang http://election.princeton.edu/2012/10/29/nerds-under-attack/#more-8151
I’ll take it.
That’s the poll I’ve been watching recently. He’s got killer statistical analysis.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/historians-romney-makes-nixon-look-like-an-open-book.php?ref=fpa
Some thoughts on the Joe Donnelly-Richard Mourdock Senate race in Indiana:
Voter turnout in the May primary was very low, particularly for a Presidential election year. Mourdock managed to defeat Richard Lugar, a well-respected long-term moderate Senator and former Mayor of Indianapolis, because massive amounts of out-of-state Tea Party money poured in to discredit Lugar’s distingushed record. Hoosiers on both sides of the aisle were absolutely amazed by Mourdock’s win. Mourdock has long been considered a loser and a nutjob by both parties. Three times he ran for the House seat in my district and was defeated soundly. I don’t know any sane person who has ever taken him seriously as a candidate for major office. When Mourdock won the May primary, mainstream Republicans like Governor Mitch Daniels couldn’t run away from him fast enough. Lugar has refused to support him. The paper-of-record in the state, the Indianapolis Star, has endorsed his opponent, Joe Donnelly. The Star is a conservative paper, founded by Dan Quayle’s family.
The Tea Party prior to Mourdock’s primary win was not particularly strong in Indiana. I question its strength even now. Indiana is a very conservative state, but its conservativism tends to be of the Chamber of Commerce, country-club variety. The mainstream United Methodist Church has also had a strong influence on political life here for over 100 years. Many of Indiana’s top political figures have been members of the UMC ( like Lugar ) or the similarly mainstream United Presbyterian Church ( Mitch Daniels’ church ). We have our share of fundamentialists and even some snake-handlers, but they rarely hold postions of power in the state. Mourdock’s extreme religious views are not widely held here. Most people – Republicans and Democrats – find those views repulsive and vile. They are appalled that Mourdock could possibly represent us in Washington. He definitely casts Indiana in a very negative light. People are concerned about that. His opponent, Joe Donnelly, is a Blue Dog and quite conservative. Republicans I know are very comfortable voting for Donnelly. I predict he will win and the seat will be a pick-up for the Democrats.
Thanks for your thoughts, Beata. I really think Mourdock is going down. I certainly hope so. There are also a lot of Obama/Biden signs in my mom’s neighborhood. It used to be all right wing nuts here.
“Republicans I know are very comfortable voting for Donnelly. I predict he will win and the seat will be a pick-up for the Democrats.”
Hooray!!!!
I like your explaining your state’s political influences and what people there think about Mourdock and his chances. Outside money has wrecked many state races. I saw where one of our wealthy, far-right republicans, Art Pope, who’s helped funnel outside money here, was honored at the RNC. I was sad to see moderate republican Lugar lose that race.
I hope you can keep Mourdock and others with “repulsive and vile views” out of any elected office.
That’s one of the best ads I’ve seen this year!
Is Romnopoly ad playing on TV or just internet? Because it’s really good.
I really don’t know but I think the Super PAC is running it on TV.
Romney and Connie Mack are running an ad here in Florida that say’s “we will preserve Medicare”.
Yes, they’ll save it by killing it.
“Romney and Connie Mack are running an ad here in Florida that say’s “we will preserve Medicare”
They are talking about the Ball Jar type of preserving.
ANonOMouse, you just made me have the visual of Mitt and Connie “preserved” in their own little Ball Jars! 🙂
BB, you know all about Ball jars, don’t you? 😉
Yes, but the Ball Co. moved out of Muncie long ago–like just about everything else. We have Ball State U. and Ball Hospital though.
I hope that ad is being shown on TV in Ohio and Virginia. It’s excellent.
Mitt Romney: Playing games with you people’s lives is great sport!
It’s playing in Ohio anyway. They are blanketing the Toledo area where the Jeep plant is.
Ralph, that ad is one of the best I’ve seen. Not anywhere close to yours, but I found the Obama ad on the radio today clever in stating how many North Carolinians’ Medicaid, SS, and college grants (millions) could be negatively effected if Romney won. The radio station plays popular music and oldies.
Something else to worry about, damn
http://enenews.com/gundersen-26-nuclear-plants-area-hurricane-sandy-hit-power-lost-only-plan-spent-fuel-pools-heat-diesel-generators-pump-water-audio
Y’all might want to ban me from skydancers, apparently I’m evil and powerfully evil at that.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/29/anti-lgbt-pastor-blames-hurricane-sandy-on-the-homosexual-agenda/
“A fundamentalist Christian minister has become the first to link “Hurricane Sandy to marriage equality and the “homosexual agenda.”
Gay Star News first reported on Monday that Defend and Proclaim the Faith ministries founder John McTernan had posted on his blog that Hurricane Sandy is proof that “God is systematically destroying America.”
“If you add the area of the drought and now the hurricane together, it would be about 80 percent of the country!” the preacher wrote. “As I said, the Holy God of Israel is systematically destroying America right before our eyes. He continued: “Just last August, Hurricane Isaac hit New Orleans seven years later, on the exact day of Hurricane Katrina. Both hit during the week of the homosexual event called Southern Decadence in New Orleans!”
Sorry, Mouse, we sykdancers run with scissors! You not leaving!! 🙂
That’s not happening. Crazy fundamentalists are hearing voices in their heads, not “god.”
🙂 “run with scissors” LOL!!!!
If God is entropy I might agree- especially as it applies to those pastors available to do useful work.
And god’s other name is Climate Change, Pastor MFer McTernan.
lol
lol! I needed those comebacks. This place has such great humor!
He’s probably deflecting his own lust for Tom, Dick , or Harry, and working quite hard at it.
This really pisses me off. And also what are they going to do?
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/29/bloombergs_scant_regard_for_prisoners_in_the_storm/
this is the historic boardwalk
They’re stupid and they lie … today’s republicans
Congresswoman Accuses Obama Of ‘Harming’ Auto Company That Went Defunct In 1988
Ugh, Marsha Blackburn strikes again! She never answers a question directly. She just rattles off right-wing nutjob talking points like a robot. Facts? Who needs facts? The program does not compute facts.
I saw that crazy fool this morning, when my parents were alive she was their congress critter. It was fun listening to my Mom and Dad squish her like a bug. They would go at it for 10 minutes and then start laughing. They thought she was nuts. Dad always ended his with, “numbskull”!
Damn, those people are stupid! I think most people know that American Motors is long gone.
“I think most people know that American Motors is long gone.”
You mean they’re not making the Rambler anymore?
Not even the convertibles?
Okay Mouse, you win the SD comedy club award. Cracking me up.
My first jeep suv was an AMC Jeep. It was the better of the 2 I owned. IMHO, Chrysler ruined that brand, but apparently my opinion hasn’t hurt their sales.
Eco….I’m not a big fan of what Chrysler did to the jeep either, but now they have a Luxury Jeep, which likely appeals to the rugged rich. I always wanted a pre-chrysler Jeep, but it was never in my price range. I was more in the previously owned, recycled & renovated after a rollover, Pinto liftback income bracket.
“He argues that any highly vocal support of Social Security by Obama would dry up his campaign contributions.”
But why would that be a consideration at this late stage of the game? The campaign has only a week to go. The money is in the bank, and Obama is never running for office again.
Doubt he’s worried about the money at this point but every editorial writer in the MSM would kill him for it. They’ve all bought into the “deficit” bullshit in the biggest way possible.
All the more reason to get back at them with the facts.
Except it seems Obama has bought into the “deficit” BS as well.
I take heart that 49%/44% of Americans do not. (still disturbing) But I’d like to go to the complete article and see where their research subjects came from.
Chinese characters might not be so “neutral” after all if your job’s been outsourced there.
Even individual wingnuts can’t keep from trying to play the refs.
PPP: Crazy E-Mail of the Day
I wish i could remember all the localist language by dad would have used after hearing this
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/29/bloomberg-news-romney-rented-mormon-churchs-exemption-to-defer-taxes-for-15-years/
That man has no concept of moral behavior.
Romney is a freeloader with $250 million bucks in the bank. Hell, he’s 65 years old, if he keeps employing the delayed tax scheme, he’ll be dead before they’re due.
Does this mean he’s going to leave his tax burden to his children and grandchildren. Brghahahahaha!!!
OOOOOH, look. Liver lillied little scaredy chicken who wears plastic pants
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/scott-brown-pulls-out-of-final-debate-citing?ref=fpb
Scared he’ll get beat by a girl? Again?
Hahahhahaha.
LOL!!!!
Response to Romney dishonest ad in Ohio:
We think a like! 🙂
If someone wants they can take mine down.
That’s OK, I lurrrve seeing Vulture discredited.
That’s powerful!!!
That’s powerful, again!
Honest-to-goodness, I saw this on my gMail today:
Fits right in with the ambience, eh?
Good Lord, who the hell is in your G-Mail? I guess i can’t talk, I get E-Cards from people who say they have seen me and are in LOOOve with me! Now that shit is scary. Stalkers! Since I don’t out, except to the supermarket, I guess i have secret Publix Lovers. 🙂
It wasn’t actually an email. It was in the heading up above my in-box list; guess I wasn’t clear.
Those I LOOOVe you emails I assume are from spammers and so send ’em into spam compost.
Fresh thread up top! Come on up!