Live Blog I : VEEP PEEP Show
Posted: October 11, 2012 Filed under: 2012 elections, 2012 presidential campaign | Tags: Biden, Debates 2012, Ryan, Vice President 88 CommentsHere we go!
Just thought I‘d drop this CSM article on the faux right wing outrage over the debate moderator tonight in as our first topic on a live blog series tonight. She’s actually a war correspondent but you know, it’s part of the lower expectations game.
On Wednesday, the conservative Daily Caller posted a blog about Ms. Raddatz, alleging bias because of her short-lived marriage in the 1990s to an Obama administration appointee, Julius Genachowski, the head of the Federal Communications Commission.
This shot comes on the heels of an avalanche of criticism aimed at last week’s presidential debate moderator, Jim Lehrer, ranging from GOP commentatorLaura Ingraham to Democratic contributor Bill Maher.
“There have always been questions about moderators,” says Atlanta-based GOP strategist David Johnson, who consulted on Bob Dole’s 1988 presidential campaign. Targeting moderators is simply a political strategy, he says, giving “each side a way to say, the debate was stacked against them if their candidates don’t do well.”
Mounting such a strategy before the debate even starts, Mr. Johnson adds, “makes the moderators go out of their way to be evenhanded.”
In one of the GOP debates earlier this year, CNN’sJohn King took withering heat for asking Newt Gingrichabout allegations made by his second wife. A variety of sources challenged Gwen Ifill’s objectivity in 2008 because she had written a book related to Barack Obama.
Now, both ABC News and the Commission on Presidential Debates have dismissed charges of bias against Raddatz, a senior foreign affairs correspondent. As reported in Politico Wednesday, The Washington Post’s conservative Jennifer Rubin tweeted that “this whole mini flap was obnoxious, dumb.”
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Every one is at desks and the first question is on Libya.
Ryan is so annoying. Ughhh
Ryan just called this the “unraveling of the Obama foreign policy”
RYAN: “Look, if we’re hit by terrorists, we’re going to be calling it what it is: A terrorist attack
Iran, Iran, Iran. Blah blah blah.Ryan really has his eye on the ball /eye roll
This reminds me of defending my doctoral dissertation. She’s really asking detailed foreign policy questions.
Uffff ayatollahs? Seriously. I don’t like this guy at all
And he won’t stop smirking. He’s worse than Dubya…
yeah … he’s talking about the smoking gun and mushroom cloud … joe’s laughing at him again …
“facts matter”, all this “loose talk” … whoa … he knows what his job is
“Great countries can’t bluff. This president doesn’t bluff.” — VP Joe Biden
Now Ryan is channeling AIPAC talking points. Eesh
and Biden’s talking about the results of the world wide embargo, and Joe’s name dropping “Bibi” his friend of 39 year years …
more bunch of stuff .. malarky … irish on irish jargon here!!!
Joe’s laughing at his answers … not out loud but obviously laughing
“with all due respect that’s a bunch of malarky, not one thing is true”
and Ryan’s smirking as Joe says ” I don’t know what my friend is talking about …”
and Joe’s really in is element … wow
and next right wing talking point she asked about “apologizing” by Obama and we get the apologizing for “our values” from Ryan
woman calls Obama a communist but doesn’t know what a communist actually is …
Oh for crying out loud, I wonder whether these people know what communism is.
I wish I were there, and lay into her with my tongue.
There is something about Ryan that sets my teeth on edge. He reminds me of that fellow who wanted to date me in the 10th grade, and even though I told him I was uninterested, he kept pushing. Ugh. I’m probably being unfair, but ugh.
For anyone who is wondering where to go to follow the debate:
http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/
Oh for crying out loud – Ryan is a chicken little.
Joe is coming off as measured and intelligent.
Ooh, Ryan now putting himself into the minds of the Ayatollahs. He really wants war.
Ryan’s early answers are more clearly and agressively stated even if he’s totally bullshitting. Biden stumbling a bit. Not bringing his A-game yet. Don’t think Biden’s dismissive facial expressions are helping.
Ryan just stumbled over his talking points now…
Facts matter – wonderful line from Joe.
Only if people can discern fact from fiction. Not sure the average voter can, Romney’s “winning” performance in the first debate showed that.
Beata, agree with you that Biden’s laughing etc isn’t really helping him
Ryan – the sky is falling – and he’s having difficulty with his pronunciation.
And she tells Biden “you’re acting”………….wtf, Ryan is acting like an asshole.
Joe just made a brilliant point about unemployment (okay I’m prejudiced). I do not like Ryan, he’s slick like a snake.
Ryan’s saying all the numbers are going in the wrong direction … and now we’re talking about a five point plan again …
Is this this Soviet Union with Five Year Plans now?
“Let me talk to you about the Mitt Romney I know …”
and which Mitt Romney would this be?
and now it’s the MItt Romney cares about the 100% and his zinger of the night …
as the VIP knows, your words don’t always come out of your mouth right
Ryan’s winning this so far. Biden is rusty.
really? I don’t think so …
yeah, you heard him, SHIP MORE JOB OVERSEAS………….that’s what we need Ryan.
The press is misquoting Romney? Wow. Okay another story about Romney and what he did for another person who was in need. He gave 30% of his income to charity – well that would be to the Mormon church, as we don’t have his tax returns to check that out, do we.
wow … Ryan opening an avenue to Ryan’s dicussing losing his first wife and daughter in that are crash …
Ryan’s giving those sad dog eyes
Joe’s telling them to just get out of the way
I guess Romney’s plan to get us out of recession is to pay for our college degrees
Don’t hold your breath
“They talk about this Great Recession like Oh My God, it fell out of the sky.” – Biden
Joe really is doing well, but he’s basically laughing him off in the reaction shots. Not sure how that will play. Ryan smirks though.
It plays good with me because he is laughing at the incredulous things Ryan is saying. I think Joe is really schooling Romney. It’s refreshing after listening to a week of crap about the other debate on Morning Joe. Joe won’t be so happy tomorrow and maybe Mika will stop acting like she’s part of the wallpaper.
Good Gawd yeah.
jeremy scahill @jeremyscahill
Dear Paul Ryan, use your safeword now!
Taegan Goddard @politicalwire
Another Biden smackdown on Ryan asking for stimulus dollars. He’s killing it
Robert Cruickshank @cruickshank
RELEASE THE BIDEN!
Pundits on Joe’s performance
Charles Johnson @Green_Footballs
Seems to me, and I could be wrong because I’m not working for the media, but Joe Biden is kicking Paul Ryan’s ass.
Charles M. Blow @CharlesMBlow
When Biden finished eating Ryan alive will there be anything left? #VPdebate
Paul Begala @PaulBegala
34 minutes into the VP debate. This is the debate Dems needed. God bless Joe Biden.
Oh ryan spouting the same lie about the 700B from medicare. He really is a slimebucket
Yup, and trying to tell seniors, it’s okay to sell out your grandkids, we got you covered!!!
From a senior perspective, my one concern is making sure that my children are covered adequately so that they will be okay. I don’t know about other seniors, however most of the ones I know want their children and their children’s children to be in a position whereby they will get healthcare.
Ryan, and total coverage for the sick………………..huh? Isn’t that communism?
“@billmaher: Hello 9 1 1? There s an old man beating a child on my tv”
Chuck Todd @chucktodd
Biden with one of the better responses to the $716B Medicare cut attack I’ve heard from them. Talking to seniors about donut hole; smart
clusterstock @clusterstock
INTRADE: BIDEN IS WINNING THE DEBATE http://read.bi/VX3WRv
Whoa …
daveweigel @daveweigel
RT @brians_neck: @daveweigel this debate makes the first one look like a public access dog catcher debate.
Jon Hutson @jonhutson
Kudos to Martha Raddatz, senior foreign affairs correspondent for ABC News, for a masterful job moderating the Vice Presidential debate.
Ryan just got aggressive … “I know you’re under duress …”
Ryan to Biden: “You’re under duress to make up for lost ground”
Between Permasmirk bastard Ryan and Biden’s uninterrupted laughing…it looks like there are no grown ups in the running
Every one is eating it up on twitter, as I wrote last week … they wanted a reality show melt down with and they’re getting it
Ryan is lying……………just this week in Northeastern California a new clinic was opened in rural America, new jobs for lots of local people, nurses, and doctors coming in to help small America, and we can say thank you Obamacare, it was that money that made this possible. It was Obama that helped BUILD the health clinic that serves three counties.
Moderate reminds audience Ryan was one of few congressman to support GWBush privatize Social Security. Awesome #VPDebate
Marc Ambinder @marcambinder
It’s like Biden is Tweeting responses to Ryan’s speechifying. It is very effective.
This is the Ryan who is the intellectual leader of the Republican party? Yikes!
Lolololol!
I wish Joe would stop interrupting. It’s annoying as is his laughing. Ryan is a jerk, but he’s remaining calm. Personally, I’m not thrilled with how this is going.
Agree completely Connie.
I guess I disagree, it’s better than letting the lie happen at the moment and after last week I’m rather enjoying it. But that’s just me.
Laughing Joe Biden @LaughinJoeBiden
lmao
new tweeter to offset fired big bird
Lulzzz
I’m demoralized. Biden’s not getting the job done.
“They’re holding the middle class hostage unless we give tax breaks to the rich”-Joe Biden.
Ryan’s forehead looks like corduroy. or maybe it’s just me.
Ooh Ryan raised Canadian taxes – I can categorically state that he’s lying.
Biden ask him “NAME some loopholes”………………name them.
Ryan is such a bad bullshit artist. Wow!
Ryan refuses to give specifics, out and out refuses……..
There it is, knocked it out of ballfield on those loopholes, yay Biden.
Oh for goodness sake, he’s raising Mitt as governor as Mass – check Charlie Pierce and most of Mass voters on how well Mitt did as their governor.
Jasusl, we will have fewer troops their next year Ryan………get it?