Monday Reads: Lots of Outrage to Pass Around

Good Morning!

I had thought about writing about all the incredibly outrageous things happening at the CPAC hatefest this weekend but figured it would take me more time than I wanted to spend in crazy land. No matter what they say, they do not want to conserve anything and they really seem to hate the constitution. Maybe I will work on something later this week.  Besides, searching the usual news sources brought me enough outrage to fill the morning reads.  Take a sip of coffee and prepare to be drop your jaw a few times.

Just when you think the Red Beanie set can’t ignore our laws and constitution any more than they already have, you find this one.  A rapist priest told his victim that sexual assault is basically how god’s love feels.  Watch the story from an NBC affiliate in Los Angeles and feel heartsick and mad simultaneously.  Yes folks, these are the zygote zealots who are so concerned about the sanctity of sperm and egg as to hope the US government will outlaw birth control.  It seems that little  boys are just priestly love receptacles the way women are sperm storage units.

According to NBC affiliate in Los Angeles, attorney Ray Boucher has mapped out at least sixty locations of where suspected priests reside in California.

“Many if not all these priests have admitted to sexual abuse,” Boucher told NBC Los Angeles. “They live within a mile of 1,500 playgrounds, schools and daycare centers.”

One of the alleged victims, Dan Smith, graphically detailed his incident with a local priest when he was a child.

“He would rape me and then say this is what God’s love feels like,” Smith told Los Angeles NBC.

Boucher represents over 500 suspected victims suing the Los Angeles Archdiocese for sexual molestation. The LA Archdiocese reached a $660 million settlement with most of the victims in 2007.

But the archdiocese is being accused of a cover up by letting priests leave the country or hide in rehab until the legal deadline for prosecution runs out.

Evidently  the KKK and white supremacists freely blog on Fox News. You would think that the death of pop singer Whitney Houston would give us a chance to think about drug abuse and the pressures of fame, but not loyal Fox Watchers.  LGF has documented some of the most insidiously racist remarks I’ve ever seen.  Fox obviously doesn’t screen for threats to the President or Haters.  I won’t reprint them here but let me tell you, they are JAW Dropping.

There are almost 5000 comments posted in the thread — these are from the first few pages. Notice that the racist bastards deliberately misspell their slurs or insert random spaces, so they aren’t caught by word filters. And many of the worst comments have numerous “likes” from other commenters.

We’ve learned that hatred of women and racial and religious minorities seems to be rampant in this country.  What on earth is wrong with people?

If you live in New Hampshire, I hope you don’t work and need to eat.  Think all those labor laws giving you time to eat and go to the bathroom are reasonable and unlikely to disappear?  Think again. Just hold it in and starve if these Republicans get their law passed.

New Hampshire’s GOP legislature has come up with all manner of absurd bills recently, including a proposal making public school curriculum optional, another to prevent police from protecting domestic abuse victims, and even a measure mandating that new laws be based on the Magna Carta. Some of the Granite State’s GOP lawmakers have even proposed doing away withthe law that requires employers to give their workers time off for lunch, under the rationale that all employers will simply grant lunch breaks out of the goodness of their hearts:

This is an unneeded law,” [Republican state Representative Kyle Jones] said. “If I was to deny one of my employees a break, I would be in a very bad position with the company’s human resources representative. If you consider that this is a very easy law to follow in that everyone already does it, then why do we need it? Our constituents have already proven that they have enough common sense to do this on their own.”

The bill’s sponsor, state representative J.R. Hoell, argued that companies failing to provide lunch breaks would be shamed over social media, thus rendering the law unnecessary. “If they are not letting people have lunch, they could put it out though the news media, though social media. I don’t think that abusive behavior would continue, the way communications are today,” he said.

Yes, job creators should only give you the right to lunch and potty breaks if they want to.  And, if you happen to get taken by the bank in mortgage fraud, Scott Walker wants your part of the settlement to help those hapless, persecuted job creators. So, you think the dribs and drabs of that big mortgage settlement are supposed to go to give homeowners some justice right?  Not in  Wisconsin where Scott Walker intends to put the settlement to other uses.  Have they recalled him yet?  Yes, it’s from Charles Pierce, so all you New Hampshire folks will just have to cross your legs harder.

But I can’t stay too man for too long because that POS act of absolution has now given us yet another reason to hate Scott Walker, the goggle-eyed homunculus now managing the Midwest subsidiary of Koch Industries that once was known as the state of Wisconsin. To hell with your folks now currently underwater in Pewaukee and Frederic and Fond du Lac and the Dells, we’re taking the mortgage-settlement money and using it for our own purposes. Funny, I heard a lot at CPAC about the economic miracle wrought in America’s dairyland by the bold leadership of the goggle-eyed homunculus, and now it turns out there’s a $25.6 million hole in the budget that he has to fill with money earmarked for the people in his state who got swindled? ‘Ees certainly a puzzlement. The Republican AG up there says, of course, that repositioning the money will “create jobs” because that’s what Republicans say these days when they’re up to serious mischief.

Think Progress has the less glib explanation.

However, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) — whose high profile assault on workers’ rights has prompted a recall effort against him — isn’t planning to use the money to help homeowners. Under the terms of the settlement, Wisconsin is set to receive $140 million, $31.6 million of which comes directly to the state government. And Walker is planning to use $25.6 million of that money to help balance his state’s budget:

Of a $31.6 million payment coming directly to the state government, most of that money – $25.6 million – will go to help close a budget shortfall revealed in newly released state projections. [Wisconsin Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen], whose office said he has the legal authority over the money, made the decision in consultation with Walker.

“Just like communities and individuals have been affected, the foreclosure crisis has had an effect on the state of Wisconsin, in terms of unemployment. … This will offset that damage done to the state of Wisconsin,” Walker said.

A memo from Wisconsin’s Legislative Fiscal Bureau released yesterday notes “it is anticipated that Wisconsin will receive $31.6 million. Based on discussions between the Attorney General and the administration, of the amounts received by the state, $25.6 million will be deposited to the general fund as GPR-Earned in 2011-12, and the remaining $6 million will be retained by the Department of Justice to be allocated at a later date.”

A post by your friendly economist just wouldn’t be complete with the la la land, voodoo explanation of what caused the last recession by your favorite idiot  Rick Santorum.  Rick Santorum thinks the recession was caused by Gas Prices.  A mind is a terrible thing to waste unless you never had one to begin with …

On the campaign trail in Colorado this week, however, Santorum offered an even further out there explanation for the crisis. According to the Colorado Independent, Santorum told one crowd that gasoline and oil prices rose so sharply in the build-up to the collapse that they caused Americans to default on their mortgages in droves, thereby triggering the housing crisis that is still acting as a drag on the nation’s economy:

Stressing the importance for the country to provide cheap energy to its citizens, Santorum blamed the recession not on sub-prime mortgages or the derivatives market but on spiking fuel prices.

We went into a recession in 2008. People forget why. They thought it was a housing bubble. The housing bubble was caused because of a dramatic spike in energy prices that caused the housing bubble to burst,” Santorum told the audience. “People had to pay so much money to air condition and heat their homes or pay for gasoline that they couldn’t pay their mortgage.”
The theory that rising oil prices blew up the housing market exists only in Santorum’s mind. “All The Devils Are Here,” an inside account of the crisis written by Fortune editor and columnist Bethany McLean and New York Times columnist Joe Nocera, doesn’t mention oil or gas prices a single time. New York Times financial reporter Aaron Sorkin’s “Too Big To Fail,” another inside account, never points to oil prices as a factor in the crisis. And the official government report about the crisis, the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission Report, mentions oil prices multiple times as a symptom of the declining economy but never blames rising prices for the collapse of the housing market.

I would say that the man just says what ever dribbles from the top of his mind if I thought he had one.  So enough of serious economic issues.  What exactly does Rick Santorum think of masturbation? Does he make certain that every sacred sperm winds up in the Santorum approved location?

Given the emphasis being placed by former senator Santorum and others on the importance of limiting the possibility for contraception, one wonders what his position is on this proposed amendment. Perhaps he believes that it represents too great an incursion on personal liberty, perhaps because detection of the criminal offense would be so difficult. Perhaps he adopts the argument of St. Thomas, well explicated in Robert George’ss excellent book Making Men Moral, that an element of pragmatism is necessary with regard to the pace of that enterprise, that one can’t move too much faster than the (sinning) population is ready for at any given time. But, obviously, this is an argument of tactics rather than of high principle, since presumably “grave moral disorders” ought to be limited as quickly as is reasonably possible, taking into account pragmatic considerations about the receptivity of the population to moral education (and potential coercion). (For what it is worth, I presume that most political liberals, in the loose rather than strict Millian sense, are willing to use state power on occasion to limit at least some “grave moral disorders” like racism or sexism even when one can’t point to an immediate victim of such conduct).

It will, no doubt, be a bit awkward for one of the debate moderators to raise the issue of masturbation after Newt so eloquently denounced all mainstream journalists for expressing any interest in his views of adultery and “open marriage.” But enquiring minds surely want to know more about former senator Santorum and masturbation, especially if one of the two “great” political parties is seriously thinking of foisting him on the nation as its candidate for the oval office and the power to veto legislation and issue administrative rules–not to mention nominating people to the federal judiciary–that comes with it. No one really cares what former governor Romney says because nobody believes that he is trustworthy with regard to anything other than the desire to limit his own taxes (and, of course, satisfy, and beat out, his father by becoming President). But Santorum is different. He actually believes things and seems to read theology.

My question of the day is how far back in time do these guys want to travel? What on earth is next? As far as I can see, all these things wouldn’t stand up in court. Something tells me however, that’s exactly what these guys want because rather than see their obvious problems passing constitutional muster, they can scream “Judicial OVERRREAAACHHHH”.  What a bunch of maroons ….  too bad we can’t ship them up there to the moon colony with Newt and Calista. Meanwhile, as they say in the Star War Series, May diVorce be with you!!!

What’s on your reading and blogging list today?


56 Comments on “Monday Reads: Lots of Outrage to Pass Around”

  1. Great post, as always dak.

    Just one note for now: the Too Big to Fail book was written by Andrew Ross Sorkin, not Aaron Sorkin (of West Wing, Sports Night, A Few Good Men and others fame) Guess the editor on that piece missed that.

  2. Pat Johnson's avatar Pat Johnson says:

    At one time Rick Santorum was blaming the economic crisis on abortion because the slowdown of producing babies led to less monies in the Treasury. Blaming the rise on gas prizes may just be a step up for him.

    If you think the Fox blog was bad, I watched snippets of th CPAC gathering and if one was looking for several days of racist, sexist, hate filled rhetoric from its speakers, you would have been right at home.

    This event was less Tea Party nuttery than it was a taste of what fascism would look like if any more of these fools seek and succeed at gaining power.

    As their policies seek to be enacted across the nation by challenging collective bargaining, voter repression, and further assaults on women’s rights, they then wrap the whole enchillada up in a series of “god bless” which brings them to their feet.

    It is a dark time in America when a White Supremicist is invited to speak before an assembly of people who applaud his remarks.

    The GOP on steroids.

    • ralphb's avatar ralphb says:

      They have the base they so richly deserve. I hope it eats the GOP alive,

    • dakinikat's avatar dakinikat says:

      I’m hearing rumors they’re expecting him to do really well in both Arizona and Michigan. I bet the Obama campaign is pleased with that. Can you image Santorum in a debate with Obama? I think that would probably set the Republican Party in the wilderness forever and probably spawn a third party.

      • ralphb's avatar ralphb says:

        Jim Messina has been spending a little time in Arizona. Apparently, Obama is going to make a contest of it there. I’d love to see their polling.

  3. Woman Voter's avatar Woman Voter says:

    Sound as if Santorum is making deals with the Bushs to keep Jeb Bush out, by claiming the deficit was caused by gas prices, not the ten year never ending wars. My one conclusion is that Santorum spends to much time on thinking where sperm go and sex in general.

  4. Woman Voter's avatar Woman Voter says:

    Facebook Exec: Woman Have Less Ambition

    I want to know if this Facebook executive woman supported Hillary or Obama in 2008. Inquiring minds want to know!

    • Woman Voter's avatar Woman Voter says:

      @jorgeramosnews Shocked you asked a female candidate for President if she would change her earrings!?! #Mexico #Machismo #women @JosefinaVM

      Remember Jorge Ramos was the Spanish language anchor that SNL made fun of because during the debate he seemed to favor Obama over Hillary and SNL made him out to be a bit of a fan/stalker. Machismo, me thinks now!

  5. Pat Johnson's avatar Pat Johnson says:

    I watch these two every night on The Young Turks.

    Ana Kasparian is definitely an “up and comer” thanks to Cenk who brought her to the public attention a few years back when she was a young intern.

    Ana is spot on: women are definitely ambitious and it has more to do with the opportunities open to them now then ever before.

    • Fannie's avatar Fannie says:

      From my view as a woman, the problems remain with the men who had developed manufacturing plants, including the educational ones, etc. Who would have thought, that yes women are equal, yes woman have the ability……………only to realized that the vatican and other reglious and political institutions will NOT allow woman ACESS. Nothing unique here, this fight has been going on for hundreds of years, and we are still here with more complicated bullshitt than I have ever seen in my life.

    • dakinikat's avatar dakinikat says:

      It’s still an uphill battle when you’re in a male dominated field. I’m in the grandaddy of all of them. Most men spend their days doing things women just don’t get … thinking and talking about sex and sports continually, playing political games and gossiping to take out other men, and then, finally doing some work. Women just like to work and move on to other things.

  6. ralphb's avatar ralphb says:

    Greece: they must not pass

    How is Greece taking the new loan deal that accompanies the PSI? Most compare it to a dictatorship, a foreign occupation, the kind of terms a victor imposes on a defeated country. No wonder: Two years of the most grinding austerity, has caused a destruction of the Greek economy that has no precedent, in peacetime, as official nominal wages dropped 15%, unemployment passed the 20% mark and, according to polling company VPRC, the bottom 90% of Greek households, suffered in 2011 alone loss of income on average ~45% of their incomes.
    […]
    Today, after three days of huge demonstrations and general strikes, Athens will be filled with rage. A police officer’s union has declared that it will refuse to attack its brothers, and threatened the troika members with arrest… People are prepared for the worse anyway though. I’m heading down to Syntagma to topple a foreign imposed bankers’ government, gas mask in my pocket and mad as hell. They must not pass. They will not pass…

    On the ground, things aren’t going well in Greece.

    • ralphb's avatar ralphb says:

      I fear for a social explosion: Greeks can’t take any more punishment

      Helena Smith, who has reported from Athens for more than 20 years, says the country is on the edge of a precipice

      From The Guardian, martial law may need to be imposed.

    • peggysue22's avatar peggysue22 says:

      Greece is a disaster and austerity is killing the country and its people. Unemployment is ‘officially’ 21%, tens of thousands businesses have gone belly-up, wages have been slashed, taxes skyrocketing and electricity has been shutdown in northern provinces because of unpaid bills. Let the debtors freeze! Or let them die from the lack of antibiotics. The entire country is being turned into a debtor’s prison for the sake of the banking cartel.

      It’s disgraceful.

      I read one tweet from a person on the ground in Athens saying there were a million people in the streets. The austerity package will force another 150,000 out of government employment.

      This is going to get worse. A lot worse.

      Meanwhile the ‘markets’ are up, buoyed by the news of the Iron Fist. I have to take a break from the news. The headlines are making me positively sick.

      • bostonboomer's avatar bostonboomer says:

        It’s disgusting. Angela Merkel should step down.

      • bostonboomer's avatar bostonboomer says:

        I wish Merkel could be locked in a room with George W. Bush for a week. That might snap her out of it.

      • Delphyne's avatar Delphyne says:

        Boomer, all he’d have to do was to give her another massage. I’m sure that would do it.

      • ralphb's avatar ralphb says:

        I’d prefer sending her on a short cruise with Dick Cheney. Survival of the fittest, you know.

      • dakinikat's avatar dakinikat says:

        Kind’ve makes you wonder who won world war 2, doesn’t it?

      • ralphb's avatar ralphb says:

        It’s them or us. The Greeks on the streets for Europe

        All over the south and the eastern European periphery, a zone of cheap labor is being created today. One that will allow the European and western capital to compete with the Chinese, the Indian and the Brazillian one in the near future. The Greek struggle to stop the new memorandum last night in the Greek parliament is a struggle for the salvation of the European project the way this was imagined decades ago. Europe is in a crossroad between two competing models, unable to produce its own proposal as it did in the second half of the twentieth century. The American neoliberal and the Chinese authoritarian capitalist models are squeezing the European ideas of the welfare state, of growth with social coherence, of democracy and cultural diversity. Last night had been declared as the night of frontal collision with the neoliberals, the bankers, the technocrats and the capitalists who are stealing the Greek and the European people’s future. In that sense it was not the end of a procedure but more likely the starting of a new page in the resistance against neoliberalism. Besides the spectacularly sad pictures of riots and burning buildings in the center of Athens, one should not miss the fact that a movement of soidarity to Greece is growing within other European countries. If fear, insecurity, confusion characterized the whole period between the first and the second memorandum, today there is a solid belief in large parts of the population that there is a clear division between the European elites and the people. Fear has broken. It will be either them, or us

  7. Delphyne's avatar Delphyne says:

    NJ Senate approves same sex marriage bill. I am sure that our bombastic governor will veto it.

    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/new-jersey-senate-passes-same-sex-marriage-bill-24-16/politics/2012/02/13/34618

  8. dakinikat's avatar dakinikat says:

    Rick Santorum’s taken a large lead in Michigan’s upcoming Republican primary. He’s at 39% to 24% for Mitt Romney, 12% for Ron Paul, and 11% for Newt Gingrich.

    Santorum’s rise is attributable to two major factors: his own personal popularity (a stellar 67/23 favorability) and GOP voters increasingly souring on Gingrich. Santorum’s becoming something closer and closer to a consensus conservative candidate as Gingrich bleeds support.

    Santorum’s winning an outright majority of the Tea Party vote with 53% to 22% for Romney and 10% for Gingrich. He comes close to one with Evangelicals as well at 48% to 20% for Romney and 12% for Gingrich. And he cracks the 50% line with voters identifying as ‘very conservative’ at 51% to 20% for Romney and 10% for Gingrich.

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/02/santorum-moves-ahead-in-michigan.html

    The establishment can’t control the angry, hateful, crazy base any more

    • ralphb's avatar ralphb says:

      I hate to root for the lunatic fringe but wth 🙂

    • ralphb's avatar ralphb says:

      It really looks like Romney bought that cpac straw poll win by busing in students from all over the eastern seaboard. In Maine, the GOP postponed caucuses in Ron Paul’s strongholds because of snow so they didn’t get to vote. Hilarious.

    • bostonboomer's avatar bostonboomer says:

      That’s so sad. Romney’s birthplace and the state where his father was a three-term governor. That’s what you get when you turn “severely conservative” and sell your soul to Grover Norquist.

      Romney the mormon learns the meaning of karma.

    • The Rock's avatar The Rock says:

      A third party MUST emerge from this travesty of leadership. On one hand, you have a president that cares only about himself. On the other hand, you have a party that doesn’t care about anything but their interpretation of God and keeping rich people rich. The GOP puts Eric Cartmann (Newt), two people who could arguably be put on medication for their views (Paul and Santorum), and a cardboard cutout with GREAT hair. In a gimme election, the GOP puts up these guys????? I don’t know whether to be depressed or angry at the direction this country is moving (circa Greece in terms of economic policy, circa Saudi Arabia in terms of social edicts).
      We are SOOOOOOOOOOOO f%^*d.

      Hillary 2012

      BTW – Those commenter posts from the Fox blog are the examples of racism that SHOULD be on the news everyday, not the watered down ‘if you disagree with Obama, you must be a racist’ version. That was too much for me. I don’t know how you can go through all that stuff AND put out a post about it Dak. You are a greater soul than I am….

  9. dakinikat's avatar dakinikat says:

    Religious Freedom and Contraception (among other things)


    On McConnell’s statements yesterday on face the nation and more:

    McConnell is sensitive to the fact that most Americans aren’t opposed to birth control. So he’s leaping from the specifics of the case to the general principle. Reading opinion stuff the past two weeks, I can see why Republicans think they are on solid ground here. A surprising number of commentators, including some on the left, have been saying they think the Obama administration is in the wrong here, on religious liberty grounds. But it seems obvious (to me) that this is absurd, because the McConnell line is absurd. I am less sure that this means it’s good politics for the Dems. Clearly the Republicans are hoping they can win a bigger share of the Catholic vote, at least, by painting Obama as anti-Catholic. But the McConnell line is so absurd that it looks like bad politics to me (which is saying a lot, I know.)

    What will McConnell have to say about the Muslim employer who – speaking purely hypothetically! – wants to impose de facto sharia law on Muslim and non-Muslim employees alike by unilaterally nullifying the application/enforcement/funding of various laws in creative – and religiously sincere! – fashion. Obama is going to oppose this sort of thing, because he hates religious freedom. Republicans, on the other hand …

    Or take the classic case: should sincere pacifists be allowed to withhold a portion of their tax bill, proportionate to the amount of the budget that goes to funding the military? The GOP, I take it, will be supportive of all who choose to check that box.

  10. dakinikat's avatar dakinikat says:

    How did American conservatism end up so detached from, indeed at odds with, facts and rationality? For it was not always thus. After all, that health reform Mr. Romney wants us to forget followed a blueprint originally laid out at the Heritage Foundation!

    My short answer is that the long-running con game of economic conservatives and the wealthy supporters they serve finally went bad. For decades the G.O.P. has won elections by appealing to social and racial divisions, only to turn after each victory to deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthy — a process that reached its epitome when George W. Bush won re-election by posing as America’s defender against gay married terrorists, then announced that he had a mandate to privatize Social Security.

    Over time, however, this strategy created a base that really believed in all the hokum — and now the party elite has lost control.

    Krugman echos what we’ve been saying here for several years.

  11. northwestrain's avatar northwestrain says:

    NH is going full out in their war against women. Laws against Domestic Violence that are proactive — save lives and money. In NH is seems that women & children are last.

    The conservatives are crazy nitwits. The haters have been given permission and now we are seeing what is going on in the minds of the KKK wantobe & reincarnated Puritans.

    Amazing collection of links documenting the decline of civilized behavior.

  12. northwestrain's avatar northwestrain says:

    Ownership of another human being is slavery — right?

    Here’s a quote from Libertarians in regards to birth control — old opinions written during Margaret Sangers time — but probably where Ron Paul gets his ideas. One thing is clear in these old geezers rants about birth control — they state women are considered slaves and the “output” or children are owned by the husband/father.

    Check out dueling Mises quotes and interpretation in the comment section from Gene Callahan – ”With the spread and progress of capitalism, birth control becomes a universal practice” – and Corey Robin (whose recent book on conservatives looks even stronger in light of these arguments by Mises) who points out that Mises isn’t talking in terms of woman’s autonomy but the husband as family owner: “In the market economy every individual is spontaneously intent upon not begetting children whom he could not rear without considerably lowering his family’s standard of life.”

    Pasted from http://rortybomb.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/von-mises-makes-the-libertarian-case-against-free-love-and-implicitly-against-birth-control/

    Time traveling indeed.

    • dakinikat's avatar dakinikat says:

      Did you see my response to them? LOL. I couldn’t believe they thought Mises didn’t like birth control. He’s written about it and they didn’t need to speculate and make shit up at all, idiots. They didn’t do any research at all. They just made up what they wanted to.

      http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/sex/

      “Rationalization of sexual intercourse involves the rationalization of proliferation. Methods of rationalizing the increase of progeny were adopted which were independent of abstention from copulation. People resorted to the egregious and repulsive practices of exposing or killing infants and of abortion. Finally they learned to perform the sexual act in such a way that no pregnancy results.

      Social cooperation is impossible if people give rein to the natural impulse of proliferation. In restricting procreation man adjusts himself to the natural conditions of his existence. The rationalization of the sexual passions is an indispensable condition of civilization and societal bonds. Its abandonment would in the long run not increase but decrease the numbers of those surviving, and would render life for everyone as poor and miserable as it was many thousands of years ago for our ancestors.

      It is not the practice of birth control that is new, but merely the fact that it is more frequently resorted to. Especially new is the fact that the practice is no longer limited to the upper strata of the population, but is common to the whole population. For it is one of the most important social effects of capitalism that it deproletarianizes all strata of society. It raises the standard of living of the masses of manual workers to such a height that they too turn into “bourgeois” and think and act like well-to-do burghers. Eager to preserve their standard of living for themselves and their children, they embark upon birth control. With the spread and progress of capitalism, birth control becomes a universal practice. The transition to capitalism is thus accompanied by two phenomena: a decline both in fertility rates and in mortality rates. The average duration of life is prolonged.”

      That’s written by Mises in his book Human Action.

      • bostonboomer's avatar bostonboomer says:

        Wasn’t Ayn Rand in favor of free love?

      • bostonboomer's avatar bostonboomer says:

        Someone else used that quote in the comments, and here is Corey Robin’s response.

        Corey Robin says:
        February 13, 2012 at 12:31 pm
        Given that Mike’s point was the connection between sexual autonomy for women and birth control, I don’t think the quote Gene cites — not when it’s read in context — actually undermines what Mike is trying to get. If you go onto read after the passage in question — the whole discussion is on 667-672 of Human Action (Volume 3 if you have the four volume edition) — Mises makes it very clear that it’s the father/husband who’s making the decision as to whether he wants to reproduce. And he’s making that decision as a market actor, balancing his sexual desire against what the market dictates he can support (in terms of the number of children). Mises writes (on 672): “In the market economy every individual is spontaneously intent upon not begetting children whom he could not rear without considerably lowering his family’s standard of life. Thus the growth of population beyond the optimum size as determined by the supply of capital available and the state of technological knowledge is checked. The interest of each individual coincide with those of all other individuals.” (In addition, and tangentially, Mises refers to abortion as one of several “egregious and repulsive practices” that include infanticide.) He never speaks of birth control as an advance for women’s autonomy, and he never once says it’s the woman who will be deciding it. It’s always the man, and the larger context in which he speaks of the issue is that it has resolved the Malthusian conundrum of population size versus scarcity. There’s absolutely nothing to suggest that he’d be in favor of women using birth control outside the confines of marriage — i.e., free love — or on their own initiative or for the sake of their own desire.

        He’s the author of The Reactionary MInd. I was thinking of reading it.

      • northwestrain's avatar northwestrain says:

        That discussion was great — it is good to know one’s enemy (Ron Paul) and Libertarian seems to be just another religion.

        What struck me was the husband as being the owner. Way back then the head of the family — the husband/father more or less did own his family. There was no such thing as domestic violence. In Boston — the Boston commons park — livestock was grazed and misbehaving wives were taken there for public beating. It was the owners right to beat his animals or his wife.

        But your are correct I didn’t see evidence of free love = birth control in the quotes from the old geezers in the blog article.

        My understanding of the family unit in English and German genealogy had more to do with property ownership. Marriages were registered long before births were registered in the westward migration of North America/USA. Things like dowager rights and laws of inheritance were enacted because of property — real and movable. Registering marriages and births in the Old World was largely the responsibility of the church.

      • dakinikat's avatar dakinikat says:

        Northwestern: There’s a big difference between the German/English Common Law and French/Spanish Colonial law that has a lot to do with the property not being recognized as being out of the reach of the church. I’m sure that extends to women and children too. It’s a big contributor to strong or slow economic growth. Countries based on German/Scandinavian/English common law always have better economies because individual property rights are much more secure as are individual liberties.

        We owe a lot to the Magna Carta.

      • NW Luna's avatar NW Luna says:

        Ownership of property in marriage differed among states settled by the British or the Spaniards. Spanish influence resulted in community property ownership. This meant that during a marriage, income received by either the husband or wife was owned jointly by the couple, and in case of a divorce, the wife was entitled to 50% of it all. British law was much less favorable to wives.

  13. dakinikat's avatar dakinikat says:

    Charles Pierce again:

    We have to spend some time discussing the phenomenon of the Beltway Papist. Many of them are Catholics-come-lately, courtesy of a priest named John McCloskey, who is a member of Opus Dei and runs what is essentially a conservative Catholic lobbying shop that actually is located on K Street. (It was McCloskey who famously baptized both the late Robert Novak and former Kansas senator Sam Brownback.) I wrote about McCloskey and his operation nine years ago. And then we have the likes of Dionne and Noonan, who are opposites politically, but who apparently believe they speak “for Catholics” because they know the same 30 people and attend the same dinner parties. Consequently, you get the kind of fact-free assertions we see above. Yes, out in the country, Catholics were “united.” By the same kind of overwhelming majority with which they’ve rejected the Church’s stand on birth control for the nearly 50 years, they’d lined up in favor of the president’s position, and against the bishops, before the president came out with his accommodation. Noonan and Dionne simply don’t know what they’re talking about. They see everything through the prism of Beltway power, mistaking the bishops for “the Church,” which, as the council fathers of Vatican II taught us, is the entire people of God, and the people of God have demonstrated, time and time again, that, in their informed consciences, they do not see this as an assault on their religious liberty. They see it simply as a way to make their lives a little easier.

    What this plainly has been is the attempt of the institutional American church to regain the power and influence in the secular government that it lost when it was exposed to be an multigenerational conspiracy to obstruct justice

    I’m not Catholic, most of my friends are or were and I have no problem with that, but sheesh, why do they have to lobby our government to make our laws enforce their beliefs when they can’t seem to get the faithful to even follow them? Just do NOT get it.

    • ralphb's avatar ralphb says:

      Wonder what makes all those Beltway Irish Catholics fall in line and follow the Bishops. Maybe Charlie is right and “Inside the Beltway” they all lose contact with the outside world. It’s still hard to accept that they would believe the entire world mimics their Georgetown cocktail party set. That’s just completely fucking sad!

  14. foxyladi14's avatar foxyladi14 says:

    Great post, as always dak.also some wonderful comments. 🙂

    • dakinikat's avatar dakinikat says:

      Thanks! The commenters at Sky Dancing are the BEST!!! Great discussions with disagreements but incredible mutual respect and intelligence. It makes me so happy!

  15. NW Luna's avatar NW Luna says:

    Dak, nice roundup. Yes it is all either crazy or horrible.

    Some good news:

    Surrounded by applauding gay couples and with media from around the country looking on, Gov. Chris Gregoire on Monday signed landmark legislation legalizing same-sex marriage in Washington state. The historic event brings Washington in line with six other states and the District of Columbia, which allow gays to marry.

    “This is a very proud moment,” Gregoire said.

    In January, Gregoire announced she would support same-sex marriage, after years of ambivalence. She recalled her personal journey in reaching that decision, which required her to go against the teachings of her Catholic faith.

    • northwestrain's avatar northwestrain says:

      I’ve got to send an email to friends and tell them they can’t get married until I get back to Washington.

      This is such good news amid all the raging disgusting junk coming from the GOP.