Open Thread: Hillary’s Historic Visit to Myanmar

Hillary arriving in Myanmar yesterday

Today’s Guardian UK reports on Hillary’s first in-person meeting with Nobel Prize winning activist Aung San Suu Kyi.

Aung San Suu Kyi, the Burmese pro-democracy campaigner and Nobel prize winner, had dinner with US secretary of state Hillary Clinton on Thursday night in a diplomatic residence in the port city of Rangoon.

The extraordinary meeting came at the end of Clinton’s first full day of her historic trip to the isolated south Asian state, the first by a top-ranking American official for more than 50 years.

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Aung San Suu Kyi

Clinton’s trip comes after changes in Burma that have astonished many observers. Aung San Suu Kyi has been freed after more than 20 years of house arrest and prison, and tentative moves have been made to reduce censorship and create new laws permitting limited political demonstrations.

Last year saw parliamentary elections which, despite being rigged to give the pro-regime party a huge majority, were nonetheless welcomed by observers.

Though the military dominates most institutions and much of the economy, many senior figures believe Burma, currently under US and European Union sanctions, needs to reintegrate the international community, analysts say.

Here’s a video about the visit, uploaded to You Tube by Reuters early this morning:


24 Comments on “Open Thread: Hillary’s Historic Visit to Myanmar”

  1. bostonboomer's avatar bostonboomer says:

    Hillary looks gorgeous in fuscia!

    • minkoffminx's avatar Minkoff Minx says:

      There is a great picture here of Hillary Clinton and Aung San Suu Kyi: SECRETARY HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON: Public Schedule for December 1, 2011 « Still4Hill

      US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton(L) and pro-democracy opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi talk prior to dinner at the US Chief of Mission Residence in Rangoon, Myanmar, December 1, 2011. Clinton is traveling to the country on a two-day visit, the first by a US Secretary of State in more than 50 years. AFP PHOTO / POOL / Saul LOEB (Photo credit should read SAUL LOEB/AFP/Getty Images)

      • Peggy Sue's avatar Peggy Sue says:

        That’s a great shot of Hillary, Minx. And look how she mirrors, Aung San Suu Kyi. A gesture of respect. She’s a true pro.

      • The Rock's avatar The Rock says:

        So true Peggy Sue. Her foreign policy acumen is demonstrated in these subtle gestures. And how powerful is that pic to freedom fighters all over the world. It says that there still are powerful people that recognize your efforts. Keep the fight alive.

        Tell me again why this country didn’t pick her in 2008?

        Leader.

        Hillary 2012

      • ralphb's avatar ralphb says:

        Two great and beautiful women who do us all proud.

        Rock, We are a very stupid people.

      • bostonboomer's avatar bostonboomer says:

        That was in the Guardian story I linked to, but WordPress wouldn’t accept it.

      • minkoffminx's avatar Minkoff Minx says:

        That was in the Guardian story I linked to, but WordPress wouldn’t accept it.

        BB…must be those damn squirrels again…

  2. Peggy Sue's avatar Peggy Sue says:

    This is the sort of diplomatic outreach that Hillary Clinton absolutely shines at–she’s tough but accessible in a human way. And people respond to that, regardless of who or what they are.

    And yes, BB: fushia is a great color on Hillary. But she looks so fatigued to me. I still have no idea how the woman survives the schedule she keeps. Even though I don’t agree with this endless war policy, she’s been a hell of a Secretary of State. I can’t imagine anyone holding a candle to her.

    You go, Sister!

  3. minkoffminx's avatar Minkoff Minx says:

    Over at Feministe: Siri: Total Misogynist. — Feministe

    The big news of the week is that Siri, the iPhone 4s’s virtual assistant, is apparently unable to find anything related to women’s health. Ask her to find an abortion clinic in New York City — a place with a few abortion clinics — and she can’t locate a single one. She can, however, direct you to several pro-life Crisis Pregnancy Centers. Ask for contraception, and she doesn’t understand the term “contraception.” And as Amanda figured out, it’s not just reproductive health stuff that she can’t get right — it’s anything related to female sexuality at all (she’s great, though, when it comes to male sexual needs):

    At my house, we discovered this while playing with Siri’s quickly established willingness to look up prostitutes for a straight man in need. When you say to Siri, “I need a blow job,” she produces “nine escorts fairly close to you”. You get the same result if you say, “I’m horny” into it, even with my very female voice. And if you should you need erection drugs to help you through your encounter with one of the escorts, Siri is super-helpful. She produced twenty nearby drugstores where Viagra could be purchased, though how — without a prescription — is hard to imagine. But no matter how many ways I arranged mouth-based words — such as “lick” or “eat” — with the word “pussy,” Siri was confused and kept coming up with a name of a friend in contacts. Of course, one could assume Siri knows something about him that I don’t know.

    So Jill tried this out herself, on her iphone…

    Jill: I love you.
    Siri: I’ll bet you say that to all of your Apple products.

    Jill: I want my dick sucked.
    Siri: I found twelve escort services fairly close to you.

    Jill: I want a blowjob.
    Siri: I found twelve escort services fairly close to you.

    Jill: I want cunnilingus.
    Siri: Is that so?

    Jill: I want cunnilingus.
    Siri: Ok.

    Jill: I want my clitoris licked.
    Siri: I don’t understand “clitoris.”

    Jill: I would like my clitoris touched.
    Siri: Ok. I can send a text to Chris [last name redacted] for you. What would you like it to say? [Ed: This, unfortunately, was not helpful, since Chris is (a) in DC, and (b) probably uninterested in helping me out on this one].

    Jill: I want my vagina licked.
    Siri: Your language!

    Jill: I want my pussy eaten.
    Siri: I have found eleven pet stores in your area.

    Aaaaaand scene. Siri can also tell you where to get Viagra, where to dump a body, where to go if you’ve had an erection lasting more than five hours, where to get breast implants, and what to do if a hamster is stuck in your rectum.

    I am not under the impression that Apple is anti-choice or that they’re out to screw over women. I think they’re just reliant on too many dude programmers.

    • Peggy Sue's avatar Peggy Sue says:

      My son confirmed this in Philly, Minx. He ran out and invested in the iphone [can’t get it to work with his car, transmission is badly garbled]. But he showed me the list of local escorts with the prompt ‘prostitute.’

      Revealing!

    • The Rock's avatar The Rock says:

      Siri understands what a dick is but not a pussy? Who is editing the code over there at Apple?

      Asshats.

      Hillary 2012

      • bostonboomer's avatar bostonboomer says:

        Apple claims its just a “glitch.”

        http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/apple-siris-pro-life-tendencies-are-a-glitch.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

        That’s no glitch, IMHO. Apple Sucks and So did Steve Jobs.

      • quixote's avatar quixote says:

        “Glitch” my left toenail. There’s a pattern to it. When the location tracking was found on iphones, that was a “glitch” and was “fixed.” Recently, when the whole CarrierIQ rootkit keylogger was found on most Android phones, there was a great silence from Apple. Now that it’s turned up on iphones, it’s very coincidentally something they’ve just stopped doing. (And it doesn’t matter anyway because “it’s not on by default.” Hello? It’s a goddamn rootkit. Those can be turned on remotely.)

        And now this. “Just a glitch.” S-u-re. A glitch that happens to match every sexist variant you can think of. For all kinds of unrelated things: viagra, abortion, breast implants, female genitalia.

        What jerks.

      • minkoffminx's avatar Minkoff Minx says:

        Yeah Rock….ask about dick you get escort service…ask about pussy you get a pet store.

  4. dakinikat's avatar dakinikat says:

    YAY ! I have electricity, cable and internet service again!!! They’re blaming the squirrels.

    • minkoffminx's avatar Minkoff Minx says:

      Hey, that is a great idea…blaming squirrels!

      Forget the old stand by, my dog ate it.

      I am glad you are back to normal Dak.

      The evening reads is going to be a bit late tonight…Daughter is cheering for the girls basketball game and we are too!

    • ralphb's avatar ralphb says:

      We have tons of squirrels. 🙂 Glad for the underground cables.

    • HT's avatar HT says:

      That was so brilliant that I had to delurk. My friend back in the 80’s finally recognized that she was gay and it ended in an acrimonious divorce from her husband, who sought to undermine her at every step, including harassment, calls to her employer, stalking etc (even though there was a restraining order against him because of previous domestic abuse convictions – yeah, funny, domestic abuse convictions – an oxymoron). She subsequently entered into a relationship that has lasted since the mid 80’s and both of those wonderful women have raised a daughter (from her first marriage) and a son that are wonderful human beings. Both children have gone on to be leaders in their respective fields, and neither of them were ever in trouble. I had a prof in uni back in the late 60’s – good looking, but really kept our noses to the grindstone (for our own sake, so he said, and he was right). Anyway, he had been with the same partner for over twenty years, and they wanted to adopt, but were precluded by law from even being married. His one regret was that he and his partner had never been allowed to be married and to raise children. A better parent you could not have found. I’m so happy that children of same sex partnerships are finally speaking out against the febrile, disgusting rhetoric of the fundamentalist mobs infesting the body politic today. Back to lurking.

      • HT's avatar HT says:

        Whilst I’m delurking – Happy birthday BB and 100 many more. We need people like you folks to stay around for a long time – gives us hope.

        WRT to SIRI, typical considering that the developers are all dude centric youngsters and the chiefs are all dude centric oldsters. I refuse to have a cell phone, or an I-phone or whatever else wondrous electronic something they devise. Disclaimer, I was in the business when cell phones were first introduced and even then I could see the not so savory applications, hence my refusal even though as a retiree I get a discount. It’s subliminal propaganda and data mining – has been since day one. One other thought, the technology was never truly tested for health implications for humans or any other creatures long term.

    • ralphb's avatar ralphb says:

      What a fine young man. My daughter and her partner have an adorable almost 2 year old son. They are the most loving and attentive parents I’ve ever seen, Maybe one day soon people will realize the sexuality of a person just doesn’t matter and my grandson won’t have to make speeches defending his Mothers.

      • HT's avatar HT says:

        Congratulation ralphb on your grandson and his parents, and mostly for his grandpa. You are very special especially in today’s climate. I had a problem with the grandparents of my children, not because I was gay, but because I refused to marry their son and deliberately got pregnant with no intention of marrying him, so we have progressed. Baby steps, but worthwhile. Every baby step leads to a massive breakthrough – at least that’s what I’ve been telling myself. You are one helluva human being. keep on being a great and loving father and grandpa.

      • Outis's avatar Outis says:

        Congratulations on your grandson, Ralph. I saw this video when it was going around and was too very impressed to see such a great public speaker. It was so obvious the love and support his parents gave him when he said, “and if I was your son, you’d be proud of me too” as if he was so used to that feeling and wore his parents’ pride so easily. I must admit I was jealous as I would rather have been raised by wolves.

        And not to be cynical, but the best comment I saw was someone who said, gay parents need not be perfect, nor do they need to raise perfect children. They need to be just good enough like the rest of us. I liked that.

      • ralphb's avatar ralphb says:

        Thanks very much. Maybe I’m just missing a gene for that particular prejudice but I just have never had any problems with someone else’s sexuality. I’ll be 65 in a month and don’t understand why anyone should care about it. Oh, well.