Wonky Fed Post (hip waders advised)
Posted: April 29, 2011 Filed under: Economy | Tags: Ben Beranke, Brad Delong, Fedderal Reserve Bank, Mark Thoma, monetary policy, Monetary policy at the Zero Bound, Paul Krugman, quantitative easing 23 Comments
The Fed’s been doing some pretty nontraditional things recently under Ben Bernanke. A lot of this was not unexpected given his record of academic research on the subject of the Fed trying to be more public about its actions and the role of Quantitative Easing in Japan’s lost decade recovery. I thought I’d put a few things up about both. I’m going to have to use some monetarist jibber jabber so please ask questions if the jargon is overwhelming! It’s easier to explain the jargon downthread than write a long run on post with explanations included.
The Roosevelt Institute held a Future of the Federal Reserve Event. Here’s video via RortyBomb of Joseph Stiglitz discussing QE2 among other Fed issues. I mentioned something yesterday down thread about the effectiveness of transmission of monetary policy through the traditional interest rate channel into the real economy and Stiglitz has a fairly succinct comment on that. There is some debate on how much the Fed can actually do much at this point–with zero bound interest rates–to get at unemployment and even the inflation coming from higher oil and food prices. We know it can happen, it’s just we don’t have empirical evidence under similar situations–other than from Japan–to know the degree to which stuff can happen right now. So it could be an infinitesimally positive effect even thought it’s a positive effect.
There’s been some discussion of this on economists’ blogs since the Bernanke Presser a few days ago. Mark Thoma tweeted this critique of both him and Brad Delong on the Bernanke Presser from a monetarist’s site from blogger economist Stephen Williamson. My first masters was in Monetary Economics so I’m well-steeped in monetarist theory.
In standard form, Mark Thoma’s heartgoes out to the unemployed, as mine does. However, Mark is much more certain than I am that the Fed can actually help these people out. Here is what Mark would have asked Ben about, if he could:
The main question I wanted to hear Bernanke answer is, given that inflation is expected to remain low, why isn’t the Fed doing more to help with the employment problem? Why not a third round of quantitative easing?
And:
In retrospect, more aggressive action by the Fed was warranted in every instance. Perhaps this time is different — I sure hope so — but the recovery has been far too slow to be tolerable. Green shoots require more than hope, they require the nourishment, and with fiscal policy out of the picture it’s up to the Fed to provide it.
Well, the answer to the question: “Why not a third round of quantitative easing?” should be: “Because it does not do anything.” (see here). In retrospect, the Fed could not have done any more than it did, even if you think that sticky wages and prices matter in a big way. Mark may think that the level of employment is intolerable, but the Fed has to tolerate it in the same way I have to tolerate the soggy weather outside.
I wanted to put this up before I linked to Krugman’s Op-Ed today which argues that Bernanke may be unduly influenced by inflationistas and Ron Paul, of all people called “The Intimidated Fed” and that he can do more. Because, I’m not so sure the FED can do much more or if it’s Ron Paul that’s the dragon needing slaying. First, I think it more like that Bernanke is being influenced by two Fed Presidents sitting on the Board of Governors right now than by Ron Paul. But, I’m not a DC or FED insider so it’s pure speculation on my part.
Some background: The Fed normally takes primary responsibility for short-term economic management, using its influence over interest rates to cool the economy when it’s running too hot, which raises the threat of inflation, and to heat it up when it’s running too cold, leading to high unemployment. And the Fed has more or less explicitly indicated what it considers a Goldilocks outcome, neither too hot nor too cold: inflation at 2 percent or a bit lower, unemployment at 5 percent or a bit higher.
But Goldilocks has left the building, and shows no sign of returning soon. The Fed’s latest forecasts, unveiled at that press conference, show low inflation and high unemployment for the foreseeable future.
True, the Fed expects inflation this year to run a bit above target, but Mr. Bernanke declared (and I agree) that we’re looking at a temporary bulge from higher raw material prices; measures of underlying inflation remain well below target, and the forecast sees inflation falling sharply next year and remaining low at least through 2013.
Meanwhile, as I’ve already pointed out, unemployment — although down from its 2009 peak — remains devastatingly high. And the Fed expects only slow improvement, with unemployment at the end of 2013 expected to still be around 7 percent.
It all adds up to a clear case for more action. Yet Mr. Bernanke indicated that he has done all he’s likely to do. Why?
Second, I’m not sure Bernanke (i.e. The FED) is in a very strong position to do much that can influence the real economy right now. The QE stuff really only shifts the FED portfolio around between long and short term debt which can influence yield curves, but, at the zero bound, there’s still a limited impact on real interest rates. You really can’t go lower than zero in nominal terms. Also, the FED’s bought all this crap from every one from Belgian cities to AIG to give them more liquidity and for the most part, that money’s not channeling back into the US economy in the forms of loans. Monetary policy is never very effective when an economy is in a liquidity trap (extremely low interest rates) and its transmission channel–the way the policy gets to the real economy where GDP lurks–morphs during various economic conditions. We’re not seeing anything resembling 20th century economic conditions.
The Economic Troika Seems Confused
Posted: November 28, 2010 Filed under: U.S. Economy | Tags: joseph stiglitz, Mark Thoma, Obama and Unemployment, Paul Krugman 42 Comments
There are three economists that I read almost every day because I share a lot in common with their value system and their approach to the subject area. That would be Brad DeLong, Paul Krugman, and Mark Thoma. The three are probably the most visible group of liberal economists on the web with the exception of Joseph Stiglitz. All three of them just don’t seem to get why President Obama does what he does given that he said what he said during the election.
Now I admit to being a relative newcomer to academia compared to these three. I’m old and will never garner the prestige they’ve achieved. I spent most of my career in financial institutions and the FED so maybe that’s where the difference comes. I don’t know. But all three of them were on the same track today and the centralized blog theme began on Thoma’s Economist’s View where the topic germinated.
Is giving some one an overly generous portion of the benefit of the doubt something that liberals academics do? I’m beginning to wonder. All this year, the troika appeared to be baffled by the continuing not democratic, not progressive/liberal, and not wise economic policy coming out of the District. Did they listen to the same presidential primary debates that I listened to? Did they watch the appointments of folks like Austin Goolsbee and just miss something? Is it just me?
From the keyboard and fingers of Mark Thoma comes a series of not so rhetorical questions and a thought. The title of the thread is The Administration’s “Communication Problem”.
I find it incredible and disturbing that on the eve of the recent election in which Democrats got trounced, the administration was still trying to figure out if the unemployment problem is structural or cyclical.
Chiming in with a reply–even quoted by Thoma–is Delong. (They all obviously read each other too.) He titled his thread ‘Mark Thoma Watches Barack Obama and His Political Advisors Go Off Message Yet Again…Can we please get the White House back on message?’
Okay, so now we come full circle as Paul Krugman also responds to Thoma with his NYT blog and this title: Lacking All Conviction.
“Now”, I thought as I braced for the read, “we might be getting a little closer to the true source of this ‘communication’ or ‘message’ problem.” But, Krugman’s take on the meeting was concern that POTUS is just getting bad advice. I’m going to bold Krugman’s relevant assertion.
What I want to know is, who was arguing for structural? I find it hard to think of anyone I know in the administration’s economic team who would make that case, who would deny that the bulk of the rise in unemployment since 2007 is cyclical. And as I and others have been trying to point out, none of the signatures of structural unemployment are visible: there are no large groups of workers with rising wages, there are no large parts of the labor force at full employment, there are no full-employment states aside from Nebraska and the Dakotas, inflation is falling, not rising.
More generally, I can’t think of any Democratic-leaning economists who think the problem is largely structural.
Yet someone who has Obama’s ear must think otherwise.
No wonder we’re in such trouble. Obama must gravitate instinctively to people who give him bad economic advice, and who almost surely don’t share the values he was elected to promote. That’s what I’d call a structural problem.
Okay, there are two prominent Noble Prize winners that I’ve mentioned in this thread. Krugman is one and Stiglitz the
other. Any truly Democratic President seeking a Roosevelt/Kennedy Style economic program would call on Stiglitz in a minute’s notice. Krugman’s the obvious choice for trade and international economics under similar policy goals. There is a rich legacy of Paul Samuelson acolytes out there. Heck, Samuelson only died a year ago, so he was even available for some time; especially during the historic ‘transition’ presidency when we even got that new fangled seal. Samuelson even went to the University of Chicago and Harvard. Samuelson was the consummate neoKeynesian. He was the yang to the Milton Friedman yin. He was friggin’ brilliant.
Now, I’m feeling a bit like Inigo Montoya here except that it’s not the word inconceivable that’s confusing me. What’s confusing me is that I keep reading these guys. These guys work with models and data. They also–of course–make assumptions. I think the models are okay, but they keep using the wrong assumptions. After two years, you have to question the assumptions when the data results keep confusing you, guys!!
Let’s start with some fresh assumptions that don’t start with he said this, yet he’s doing this, it must be the message, the adviser, or the communication style. Let’s try, he said what it took to get elected. Now, he’s doing what he believes in. If he was all that interested in being the next FDR, at least one of you and Joseph Stiglitz would be on the CEA right now. He’s just not that into you, Keynes, or unemployment unless he thinks it’s going to help in 2012.
M’kay?
Susie at Suburban Guerilla had a slightly different take but with a somewhat similar line of thought.
Obama would rather preside over a graduate seminar than make hardnosed political decisions, and that continues to be a major flaw.
I think it runs even deeper than that. I think the ‘graduate seminar’ was a public relations exercise.
Digby at Hullabaloo has a little stronger sentiment than that.
If anyone’s wondering why the administration hasn’t been able to get on message about jobs and unemployment, it might be because they just don’t know what the hell they are doing.
Well, that too.





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