We need a Plan B
Posted: December 11, 2011 | Author: quixote | Filed under: 2012 presidential campaign, Barack Obama, Women's Rights | Tags: Plan B |45 CommentsIt’s true of the pill. If that’s not obvious to you, you’re not paying attention. Or you have an agenda. One that does not include making the lives of girls healthier and easier. That’s been made clear by loads of people. Just one example, Violet at Reclusive Leftist in several posts.
What I want to add is: REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!
Do not vote for the Current Occupant. Do not vote for him, no matter what. Do not enable your own abuse.
Seriously.
Obama does the classic abuse crap. Slam! Oh, quit yer snivelling. Where ya gonna go? (A bit of time goes by.) Gee, honey, I’ll do better, just give me one more vote. Slam! (Rinse and repeat.)
For those of us favored enough to be safe from direct hits, the line is “The other guy will beat the kids up even worse.”
Do you know what that’s called? Extortion.
When it happens to someone else, we’re all super-clear that the victim should leave. Get the hell out. Stop putting up with it. GO!
But when it happens to us, suddenly we’re the ones on the floor with a broken jaw saying to ourselves, “God help me, if I leave, what’ll happen to us? What’ll I do? Somebody else’ll beat us up even worse.”
Never again pretend you don’t know how abuse victims feel.
And for yourselves: Get the hell out. Stop putting up with it. GO!
Do not vote for Obama in November. It doesn’t matter who the Republicans run. It doesn’t matter if one of them becomes President for four years. The only thing that matters right now is not being part of your own destruction.
Get it through your heads that you will not be bullied, and you will not be held hostage, and you will not knuckle under to extortion.
Do not buy the story that you have no choice. Vote for somebody else, anybody else. Or nobody. Follow Plan B and get rid of the lying, two-faced, pandering toady.
Crossposted from Acid Test
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quixote
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Mona (aka Wonk the Vote)
Sky Dancing 
The problem is that look at what the Republicans are offering up. There is no way that women will be better off under them. I hate having to choose between evils. I would rather sit this one out but the Republicans seem hell bent on immediately destroying the country. Any suggestions on how we get a real option? Even the third party possibilities are dreadful! Trump and Bloomberg? There’s not a woman or child friendly pol on any horizon and at this point I wouldn’t be voting for Obama, I’d be voting to stop the Republican Death March.
I’m in that camp as well. I refuse to vote for my own destruction to prove anyone’s damn point, no matter how valid.
The Republicans are the lesser evil at this point for the simple reason that Obama is the more effective evil.
If a Gingrich or a Romney tried this garbage, at least part of the establishment would be screaming like banshees. But because it’s “Our Man In The White House” everybody is lying to everybody and to themselves until nobody even knows their own name. (“Democrat? What is this thing, ‘Democrat,’ whereof you speak?”)
Really and truly, that is much more toxic. The Republicans, partly because they’re such scumballs and everybody knows their name, would not accomplish one quarter of the damage the Current Occupant will achieve. (Just look at the last three years, and compare to Shrub’s reign, for proof.)
Like Eugene Debs said, it’s better to vote for what you want and not get it, than to vote for what you don’t want and get that.
Well, that only assumes that Republicans don’t get both houses of the legislature and then all bets are off. IF that happens, I’m on the next boat to wherever. It’ll be hand maiden’s tale. I can’t imagine what would happen if Mitch McConnell, John Boehner and Newt Gingrich run the country and I wouldn’t stay around to watch. I’d pack my stuff and head to the closest border of whatever country that would have me.
I made my symbolic votes in 2008. Right now I’m just trying to pull the US back from the Eve of Destruction planned by the Republican party faithful. Even establishment Republicans are appalled. I’m thinking they might vote for Obama since he’s the real Republican in the race and the slate of Republicans are the John Birch Society/Religious Extremist Candidates. What I wouldn’t give for a real choice and some one that actually makes decisions based on science, reason, and what’s good for the country for a change.
“What I wouldn’t give for a real choice and some one that actually makes decisions based on science, reason, and what’s good for the country”
Word.
Have you thought about Costa Rica? I have friends who moved there, and they say it’s a welcome and civilized relief.
Actually, I’ve looked there and a few other places. I have to learn more than niceties in Spanish though. I’m trying to assess my assets and income potential right now to see if I could manage moving some place and THEN finding some teaching positions even if they are just adjunct. The biggest issue I have right now is the house. I should be able to sell it and clear some money but I’m not sure how quickly I could do that.
quixote, speaking of leaving the country, are you giving voting advice from Canada?
“Are you giving voting advice from Canada?” 😀
I wish.
No, I’m in SoCal. Which means one big compensation to the country going to hell in a handbasket is that I can go hiking and watch hummingbirds every day of the week.
I’m not just giving emigration advice, though. It’s my plan for me too. I see the future as very bleak here. I wish I didn’t. It’s a beautiful country in so many ways.
Immigration would be nice but I have 2 children and 8 grandchildren here to worry about anyway, so screw it. Guess I may have to make a stand in the US.
I have two children too. I keep thinking they’re going to need some place safe to flee to eventually
I couldn’t stand to leave my family either. I’m probably too old to get into Canada anyway. I’ll make my last stand here if necessary.
There’s always the idea of the Sky Dancers Commune if all else fails 😉
I cannot vote for President Obama: he has been even worse than I dreamed he would be.
I doubt I can vote Republican. So I am looking to Rocky Anderson, former Salt Lake City mayor. He is running on a third party ticket and seems sane.
djmm
I see it less at this point as a vote for Obama than stopping this current crop of Republicans. I might be naive but I think his poll numbers rather indicate that no one is all that happy with him. He’s not an alternative. He’s a stop gap measure.
Rocky seems like a possible alternative. I keep boggling that he’s mayor of Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City? One by one, life keeps exploding all my prejudices.
Rocky Anderson is Howard Dean’s cousin. Guess not everyone in the family is a sellout.
The DINOs will do nothing — they won’t fight and they can’t fight as long as 0 is in the White House.
Keep 0 in 4 more years and whatever monster follows him with be a thousand times worse — and gains made by labor, women, gays, those below the poverty line, students, workers, minorities — will be gone — because after another 4 years of 0 — the lunatic that “wins” will have his marching orders.
The GOP already has their guy in the white house — the GOP wins — no matter who “wins” next November.
The fix is in– to proof is in the “choices” we are seeing being thrown into the ring by the GOP.
it is far better to encourage and vote for real progressive/liberals in the house and Senate who are willing to fight for the future of the people of this country.
Thankfully — we all still have time to watch the clowns and November is still a long way off.
Sadly, I think this is the only alternative open to us–support good, solid people for the House and Senate.
I cannot and will not vote for Obama. And there’s no way I’m voting for the Repugs and their crazed agenda. I hate to think of the GOP stacking SCOTUS with ever more right-wing judges or turning back the pages even further for women, gays, the poor and sick. But I’m done being strong armed by a party that voices support and then does practically nothing, just enough to keep their supporters in line, pretending that they’re progressives with no choice but fold and give in. They’re sell outs, period.
I’ll go 3rd party. Or I’ll write in ‘none of the above.’ Just like an abusive husband and his drinking buddies, Obama and his handlers need to be dumped on their asses.
That being said, I think everyone has to make up their own minds. It’s going to be a come to Jesus moment in 2012.
I’m not ready to turn the House, Senate and white House over to the current crop of Republicans. I’d rather see four more years of gridlock than the establishment of a nuclear armed taliban-like regime that has me and mine and my stuff hostage.
I understand and hear your frustration, quixote.
I’m not voting for Obama or for any other Repubs. No more enabling the oligarchy. “pro” votes or “protest” votes, it’s all perpetuating the same hydra.
I’m with you Wonk, unless Gingrich is the GOP nominee, then I’ll probably vote for Obama…being that I live in Georgia, his home state, my guess is that no matter what I do, Gingrich will take Georgia.
If Gingrich is the nominee (vomit), I’m tempted to move to a state where I can write in William Jefferson Clinton!!!!!
If your are going to do that pick a county in Texas where your vote will make the difference, and be ready for the voting booth bullies.
I’m in TX already… which county do you suggest? 😉
Geez, Wonk, I don’t think I knew that. Well, you know better than most what happened. If I remember right some of the smaller counties were close enough where a vote or two could make a difference. I’d have to look at the precinct records again. It seemed to me also that there were a few areas around Dallas that were up for grabs. I imagine that the whole map has to be re-evaluated in light of the new delegates.
It appears to me though, that with the northern delegate loss, Texas is where the fight will be.
Louisiana used to be a purple state until the Bush administration financed the diaspora of the black middle class out of here. Now, we are bright red and basically a one party state. It’s amazing more people don’t speak out on how Rove et al performed a coup on our state government. I’m not back where I was in Nebraska where voting is a complete waste of time. The churches have the elections sewed up. You stand in line with religious nuts from big barn churches and catholic ones that have cards that tell them who to vote for … it’s gotten like that down here too. The fundies seem to have made an odd peace with some of the catholic churches which is surprising since many catholics used to be big on social justice. Maybe it’s just that way in the great flyover.
Dak, that’s sad news about voting in Louisiana. I’ll never forget that the white vote in the 1980s would’ve elected David Duke, aka The Nazi with a Nose Job. But back then there were enough others to vote for the crook because it was important. (Long story. Like most things to do with Edwin Edwards.) It’s just really sad to think that the bad guys have swamped the good guys and one more state has been assimilated. I’ll always dearly love New Orleans, but it sounds like they’re morphing it into a different place.
Yes. It is morphing into a different place. I have lots of long timers that just don’t want to be here any more. Jindal just knocked an entire huge neighborhood down to house a new hospitals and a biomed complex. They refused to redo the old hospitals. It’s a similar complex to the one big failed one around John Hopkins. They’re bulldozing stuff every where now in the historical areas but it’s the lakefront that is really the center of nothing and they don’t touch the stuff there. It’s really sad.
(By the way, Wonk, good to see you again!)
Likewise.
Quixote, pls keep up the posting (peggysue too!) I don’t get time to comment often, but I love seeing this place hopping with posts.
for sure. 🙂
How about Wyoming?
So, if Corporations are now persons, that must also be true of non profits. Let’s set them up as candidate and vote for Planned Parenthood.
I like it!
Lol, I don’t entirely like it because I haven’t forgotten 2008, but I like it better than the alternatives.
You may be right Quixote. I’m not really sure if I could put my X beside Obama’s name once I got into the voting booth. Fortunately for me, I live in MA, which is very blue. I really don’t think maybe people are going to be willing to vote for Mitt after the damage he already did here. And I sure as hell know MA won’t go for Gingrich. So I’ll wait and see what happens. I would stay home except that I want to vote for Warren and Markey.
I am severely jealous that you can vote for Warren! And Markey is a real trooper, too. Maybe Warren will run for Prez in 2016? ??
I think Hillary should run. She wouldn’t be any older than Gingrich is now.
If there *is* a 2016 election. We’re already living in a de facto police state. It could official by then.
My guess is it’ll still be de facto. 😦 The only reason I didn’t say Hillary is that she’s stated categorically she’s not doing it, and I believe her. She doesn’t sound like she’s just saying it. More 😦
Wow, I really needed that fix Quixote……..thanks for passing it on.
No worries – I’ll not be voting for Obama. With the Pub line-up looking like “Send in the Clowns”, if HRC doesn’t run, we are SOL.
I agree, we do need a Plan B. Maybe until there is a viable option, Medicaid and Medicare should stop paying for Viagra. There’s more than one way to skin a cat. lol
Good to hear from ya freespirit…………as always, you speak the truth
: REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER! 🙂