Here we go again …
Posted: September 25, 2008 Filed under: Human Rights, No Obama, Women's Rights | Tags: ageist, gay hating, No Obama, obama campaign, sexist 8 Comments
It’s true. On issue after issue, I pretty much disagree with Sarah Palin. I see nothing positive about hunting or fishing unless you have no other way to eat. I see killing things for fun as a completely immoral action. I do not consider a gestating protohuman to be ‘ensouled’ and the same as a walking talking human being or even a walking, eating moose. I’d rather see Nebraska, Kansas, and North Dakota be turned into fan farms than drill in ANWAR. I’d also rather see Arizona turned into a one big solar panel that do any more drilling off the Florida coast. I think the death penalty is something right out of the dark ages and has no place in a civilized country. I don’t care if gay people marry, they have every right to be as miserable and trapped in dead end relationships as straight folks. I’m definitely a libertarian on the civil rights issues. My position on anything like this–even those multiple wife holding Mormon men– is it’s not my business and it’s certainly not the government’s business. If you’re not hurting some one and it applies to a person capable of giving reasoned consent (exceptions for minors and the disabled), it shouldn’t be the subject of a law. I don’t even care if folks smoke marijuana or use heroin as long as they stay put where they are and don’t try to drive a car. I am pro-science and I think Christianity was invented by the Romans to control slaves. I think folks that believe in it are victim to the biggest on-going sham in history. That pretty much puts me very much at odds with about everything Sarah believes in. But you know what? She has a right to say it, believe in it, and run for vice president without being called every nasty, misogynistic, stereotypical, hateful thing you can call a woman. Senator Obama delivers lectures to us on racism and his campaign accuses every one of using subtle racist code words. However, he and the rest of his democratic cronies are more than happy to use not so subtle code words or ads against women and the elderly. Today’s example from the NY Times Op-Ed page.
I have to hand it to Palin, she may be onto something in her batty way: the election is very much about American exceptionalism.
Roger Cohen in Today’s New York Times
When I read “batty”, all I can think of his Archie Bunker calling Edith a ‘dingbat’. It’s the ultimate insult to any woman’s intellgence.
While I’m at it, I’d like to say that any of my gay and lesbian friends and their related activist groups need to start looking (without stars in their eyes) at a candidate that will announce a series of Values Forums and be seen in public over and over again with a homophobic, gay-baiting preacher. It is also time for Senator Obama to start having a conversation about hating on homosexuals with the black religious community. He is not holding them to the same standard of supporting civil rights that he expects of white people when it comes to the civil rights of black people. So it’s okay for Obama and this group to hate on gay folks AND it’s okay for Obama and his cronies to hate on women who hold socially conservative positions since racism is the only relevant evil in this race. Is that the deal here?
Also, Senator Obama and his nation of clueless cult members should be more respectful of their elders and stop using ageism in his commercials attacking Senator McCain. I think portraying the elderly as addled, unable to keep up with technology, and incapable of change is exactly what Obama keeps pulling on Senator McCain. Any one who spends time teaching at universities, as Senator Obama has, should know that the emeritus professor is the most respected position. Many, many professors continue teaching and researching way into their nineties. They may need some additional support from staff, but they continue to be vibrant contributers to their areas way past their retirements. If Senator Obama thinks that he doesn’t want to be judged on his “funny name” or the color of his skin, he needs to extend the same level of respect to older Americans. Not all folks with Hussein in their names are terrorists and not all senior citzens have alzheimer’s disease. The latest mailing I keep getting from the Obama supporters to get McCain to release his ‘real’ medical reports is a thinly veiled whisper campaign made to make folks take notice of McCain’s age. While there are hate groups out there to remind folks of Obama’s race, there are only Obama supporters out there bringing up McCain’s age and Senator Palin’s sex and fundamentalist beliefs. Like I said, I disagree on almost every social position possible with the Republican party, but I’ve never seen them say anything blantantly racist about Senator Obama. However, I see Obama and his supporters spew misogynistic, ageist, and gay-hating terms daily. I’ve also seen them play the race card at the drop of a hat. This should stop. It’s ugly and it’s un-American.
UPDATE TODAY: YET AGAIN …
From Fox New:
Florida Rep. Alcee Hastings on Wednesday warned two minority groups to beware of Sarah Palin because “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”
Hastings, who is black and a Democrat, made the comment in Florida at a panel discussion hosted by the National Jewish Democratic Council.
source:
http://http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/25/congressman-warns-jews-blacks-to-beware-of-palin/
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I invite you to give the Greens a long and careful look. Seems to me you could go down the list of 10 Key Values and check off each one.
BTW, McKinney says that she’ll debate Obama:
http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php?ID=108
Thank you for your clarity and defense of American values. Maybe that’s the fight this year, what the definition of American values will be, because everyone thinks they know and thinks their competitor doesn’t. No one seems to be thinking freedom is one of them — freedom to be who they are, freedom to succeed where they want to, and freedom to fail.
I agree with everything you say, although how I weight the issues usually brings me to support Republicans for fiscal reasons rather than the Democrats for social issues — despite this crisis which I lay on the Republicans (Bush Republicans, that is) and incompetent Democrats.
I didn’t like all of Hillary’s platform, but I trusted her leadership. Now I’m stuck with three men and one woman among whom there is no good leader and no good platform.
Am also in a weird situation being completely libertarian on social issues but as an economist, I have to say on both issues of national defense and the economy I’m pretty much right down the line with the Clintons and more moderate republicans.
It’s the sexist attacks on Palin BY WOMEN that really outrage me. Back in olden times, when I was young, I thought we were fighting for the right of a woman to have equal opportunity to do anything she chose with her life. I am amazed at the women representing themselves as feminists who are criticizing Palin for being a working mother. And I used to get furious with people who would refer to “extremists” on both sides of the abortion issue. I contended there were no extremists on the pro-choice side — we were just for letting a woman be in charge of her own body and were not forming roving bands of feminists trying to find pregnant women whom we could whisk off to an abortion clinic and convince to end their pregnancies. But from the judgmental pronouncements being issued that Palin should have aborted her child, I was apparently wrong about that, too.
I’ve made peace with voting for McCain now that Hillary is not a possibility. I consider Obama just another Dubya, only possibly even worse; and in spite of the fact that I have serious disagreements with McCain and Palin, they don’t seem to be intent on making the rest of us adhere to their religious beliefs, unlike many Republicans. Sigh.
EA: I would pay serious money to see McKinney debate Obama. She’d clean his clock.
One thing Obama and McKinney have in common? A Jew Problem.
http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASUS_12/4869_12.htm
Though I don’t think she’s been endorsed by Hamas. Sorry Cynthia. Pampers has you beat.
There’s one significant difference between an Obama presidency and a McCain presidency, and that is that Obama, unlike McCain, is unlikely to go to war at the drop of a hat with Iran, Russia, China, and every power in between.
In other words, we can be reasonably certain that Obama won’t preside over the deaths of several hundred thousand or several million human beings, and that should be, for any being with even the thinnest veneer of humanity, the deciding issue.
Having said that, I’m not entirely sure whether Obama and McCain are both engaged in races to the center that, on the one hand, cause Obama to drop daily, incisive criticism of the war, and on the other hand, cause McCain to use “Reform, Prosperity, Peace” as his slogan (hah!), and which bring out nasty rhetoric from both of them or if it’s just the case that Obama is full of shit and willing to do whatever it takes to win. True, the GOP has been slightly more civilized, and sneakier about who it gets to smear Obama (how many times must Obama be referred to as the (literal) anti-christ in churches to equal Palin being called some name in the pages of the NYT?)
Ben, I respectfully disagree with your assessment of McCain as more likely to rush to war than Obama. A retired military member of my family says that a person who has served, espcially in wartime, would more clearly understand the human cost of war, both for soldiers and civilians, and would tend to use military force only as a last resort, first trying diplomatic and other measures to deal with problems with other countries. McCain said in the debate that he opposed military action in Lebanon by Reagan and in Somalia (I believe that was initiated by George H. W. Bush, but it may have been Clinton). Also, I fear that other countries might see Obama as weak, and he might then (with his ego and prickliness) feel it necessary to prove his manhood by attacking someone. I confess that he seems more hotheaded to me than McCain does.
And shtuey, I briefly considered voting for McKinney after Hillary withdrew and was troubled by the accusations of anti-Semitism, but I didn’t find what I considered conclusive evidence that she herself is guilty of this. I’m just not willing to hold her father’s or even her bodyguard’s statements against her without knowing more about it. However, I’m not voting for her, so I guess it’s moot.