Wednesday Reads: WTFF?!

“Ages 4 and up…”

What the fuckity fuck?

That is all I’m gonna say about that.

Cartoons are from the Cagle website:

I’ve been dealing with a cold since Thanksgiving…so just adding some links below:

This thread is tough to read:

That’s it for now…one more thing:

Happy Hanukkah


This is an open thread.


66 Comments on “Wednesday Reads: WTFF?!”

  1. Minkoff Minx says:

    Let’s see what SCOTUS does today with abortion rights…

    Stay safe.

    • bostonboomer says:

      I tried listening to the questioning, but I think I’d rather read about it later. Listening to this guy from Mississippi is too enraging.

      • dakinikat says:

        • dakinikat says:

          Adoption isn’t everything these white christianist goons make it out to be. I’ve seen adoption really damage children clear into their adulthood.

          • darthvelma says:

            So being pregnant doesn’t have a great impact on women’s lives and careers?

            What is she smoking?

            Seriously, it isn’t always about not wanting to raise a child. It’s also about not wanting to be pregnant. Pregnancy and childbirth still kill women. Not to mention all of the physical changes to a woman’s body that can be permanent and life changing.

            And finally, the last time I checked no person, not a fetus, not an embryo, not a 16 year old child, not Amy Coney Barrett, has the right to use another person’s body AGAINST THEIR WILL to stay alive.

          • quixote says:

            Exactly. You can’t take organs from a corpse without explicit permission given before death.

            But women? Like the cartoon in the post. For the guy agonizing about when viability starts, the incubator isn’t even on the map.

          • djmm says:

            Yes. And, sadly, many adopted children are abused.

          • NW Luna says:

            WTAF? “Should not have an impact on their lives.” Abortion is safer than childbirth.

        • dakinikat says:

          Justice Samuel Alito dug in on whether viability is an appropriate line for the court to have drawn.

          “The fetus has an interest in having a life,” Alito said, and that doesn’t change between before and after viability.

          “What is the secular philosophical argument for saying this is the appropriate line?” Alito asked.

          Julie Rikelman, a lawyer representing Jackson Women’s Health Organization, the only licensed abortion clinic in the state, said that the line is “objectively verifiable” and doesn’t require the court to resolve the philosophical questions.

          https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/supreme-court-roe-v-wade-abortion-case-12-01-21/h_585039df0b2bd5bd88d6e0c4c4bbd26b

          • bostonboomer says:

            Like a fetus is a little person with an adult brain who can think about their life and what they want? Jesus fucking Christ! These people are insane.

        • bostonboomer says:

          Barrett didn’t just talk about adoption. She mentioned those drop-off places where you can abandon a baby. So women are supposed to carry a pregnancy to term, give birth, and then go through the life-long trauma of giving up a child. That is slavery.

          That is what happened back in the ’50s and ’60s. Many women who had to give up their children for adoption never got over the pain and loss.

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          “How is your interest anything but a religious view?” Sotomayor asked of the state’s attempt to define when life begins. Sotomayor also fought back against Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s comments on precedent. And she asked Stewart when the life of a woman and the risk she endures come into the calculus: “The state is saying to these women that we can choose to not only physically complicate your existence, put you at medical risk, make you poorer by the choice, because we believe…what?”

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        • dakinikat says:

          The women assaulters on the bench or both mental midgets. Kavanaugh is an idiot and he thinks he’s clever. He should be off herding goats somewhere.

          Kavanaugh continued this strategy—pretend to ask a question, then announce his own views—throughout the morning. He complained to Julie Rikelman, attorney for abortion providers, that the court has been forced “to pick sides on the most contentious social debate in American life.” Worse, it has been forced “to do so in a situation” where, according to “the other side,” the Constitution is “neutral.” And so, he concluded, the court should not “pick sides” but rather remain “scrupulously neutral on the question of abortion, neither pro-choice nor pro-life.”

          In case Kavanaugh’s position wasn’t clear enough, he later suggested that the court should not hesitate to overrule Roe despite its status as settled precedent for nearly half a century. Why? Some of the most “important” and “consequential” cases in the Supreme Court’s history overruled precedent, including Brown v. Board of Education.

          “If we think that the prior precedents are seriously wrong,” Kavanaugh asked, “why then doesn’t the history of this court’s practice … tell us that the right answer is actually a return to the position of neutrality?” Put differently, reversing Roe would not harm the court or the country; it would be celebrated as a victory for the democratic process. As he told Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar: “There will be different answers in Mississippi and New York, different answers in Alabama and California, because there are two different interests at stake”—fetal life and reproductive freedom—“and the people in those states might value those interests somewhat differently. Why is that not the right answer?”

    • dakinikat says:

      I’m too upset to listen.

      • quixote says:

        Really. Like that cartoon says, “When are they humans with rights?” and you just know he’s not even imagining that could apply to the incubator doing the work.

        • djmm says:

          That’s just the “host body,” don’t you know.

        • NW Luna says:

          It’s not even a damn frickin’ tadpole. Not even a frog egg, which can develop on its own outside the mother frog.

          Endless screaming

  2. dakinikat says:

    • quixote says:

      Indicted? Elementary justice demands he be IN JAIL by now. If the law can’t deliver that (I know it can’t) then the law desperately needs realigning. (I know we’re not getting that either.)

  3. quixote says:

    Given the number of mutations in the crucial area in omicron, Moderna and others aren’t wrong to fear the worst. *But*: the early evidence out of South Africa is that it does not escape current vaccines easily.

    • dakinikat says:

      I was glad to hear that and I hope it holds up under peer-reviewed inquiry.

    • NW Luna says:

      Well of course the Moderna guy thinks we’ll need new vaccines all the time. $$$$$$ But I agree with quixote that so far the medical findings don’t indicate this for the omicron.

  4. quixote says:

    The business about First Ladies and doing all the Home Goddess stuff?

    Exactly. Jill Biden did a great job. BUT why is it her job at all? She’s a PhD early childhood educator. They ought to be covering her view of that aspect of the infrastructure bills!

    • dakinikat says:

      I do have to say I’m glad that a woman with a Ph.D. in early childhood education did the decorations with the message they convey. Melania’s idea of decorations and redoing the rose garden is scorched earth and nightmares. She needs to be put in charge of healing our children and should be there first one they send to school shootings. Someone who knows how children develop, learn, and emotionally process things is really needed for that kind of thing. And send the second gentleman with her too on that.

      I do think she should be in charge of selling preschools for all. I also wish she could influence them to use Montessori methods to which are far better for young children than any other learning methodolgy.

      • NW Luna says:

        Agree. I do worry she’ll get the Hillary treatment if she is involved with policy, just like they did with HRC and universal health coverage back during Bill’s administration.

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  7. bostonboomer says:

    Thanks, guys. I’m very old–74. I lived long enough to see my country go back to the way it was when I was in high school–only worse.

    When I came to Boston at age 19, even birth control was illegal here. All these years later, women are still not free. And now we have to deal with the trans fanatics and the politically correct ACLU and NARAL talking about “pregnant people.”

    • bostonboomer says:

      • darthvelma says:

        I’m getting tons of fundraising emails from the Democrats, Planned Parenthood, etc. My response is the same every time:
        My answer to these emails remains the same. I will never vote for a republican. But will not get one penny of my money or one second of my time until you start prioritizing the rights and safety of women and girls over the feelings of men with fetishes who want to wear my oppression as a costume and get off on forcing me to call them “ma’am”.

    • NW Luna says:

      Happy Birthday BB!

    • RonStill4Hills says:

      Happy Birthday,

      We have to keep faith that as long as we never give up a return to sanity is possible.

      • bostonboomer says:

        Thanks Ron. I hope you are right.

        • quixote says:

          You’re definitely right, Ron. Look at all of history. “The meek shall inherit the earth” is not a hope. It’s a prediction. The only problem is it can take a thousand years.

          Oh well. As Hillary said, “Onward.”

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  9. bostonboomer says:

    This is awful.

  10. bostonboomer says:

    This is the mother of the school shooter in Michigan.

    • dakinikat says:

      I thought they were being so silent about things about the shooter and then it came up he got charged with terrorism there was something going on. Plus, no one knew why the father gave the kid a gun and the parents zipped their lips.

      • bostonboomer says:

        Kids knew something was going on. I read an interview with a mother who let her son stay home because he had heard rumors.

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