Wednesday Reads: Wash your hands…

So, the night went as planned:

I could never get up and say that about Bernie and his Bro’s…


However, if Bernie does that…it just makes the stunt he pulled in 2016 even more disgusting.

Also, about 2016:

And this tweet from Ezra is especially, what is the word…fucked? Coming from his misogynistic jerk:

“To put it gently?” Ezra can piss off.


In other news:

Hope y’all enjoyed that little video message.

This is an open thread.

38 Comments on “Wednesday Reads: Wash your hands…”

  1. Minkoff Minx says:

    I wonder if tRumpers has any effect on the outcome in North Dakota?

    • Minkoff Minx says:

      Nah, it was a caucus state…

    • NW Luna says:

      Washington votes by mail, and ballots had to be in at the latest by yesterday. This means it’ll take a while to count them all. I voted early, and for Amy. Guess I should have waited and then voted for Biden. So far Bernie isn’t doing anywhere as well as he did in the caucus in 2016 when his bullying supporters made the whole caucus experience an ordeal.

  2. Minkoff Minx says:

  3. Minkoff Minx says:

  4. dakinikat says:

    • quixote says:

      Wow. Just WOW. :The Scream:

    • NW Luna says:

      Federal and state officials said the flu study could not be repurposed because it did not have explicit permission from research subjects; the labs were also not certified for clinical work.

      On March 2, the Seattle Flu Study’s institutional review board at the University of Washington determined that it would be unethical for the researchers not to test and report the results in a public health emergency, Dr. Starita said.

      IOW, The subjects consented to be swabbed for the flu study and were not asked about being tested for anything other than the common influenza because back when the study was designed and started there was no corona virus epidemic. Research regs protect subjects from consenting to being tested for one thing but then used for other testing. For example, you agree to give blood for a study on clotting factors, but then the researchers test your blood for something else like HIV. That would be unethical. Glad the UW’s IRB made the right call and said we have a public health emergency, and we’re testing not for anything like HIV but for corona virus, go ahead.

      the F.D.A. could not offer the approval because the lab was not certified as a clinical laboratory under regulations established by the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, a process that could take months.

      “Clinical” labs are ok’d for quality and reliability to do testing for patients with insurance, MC, or MA coverage. Research labs are just as good but don’t go through the paperwork process because they’re only used for research.

      We need Federal public health programs to get realistic!

      • quixote says:

        Seconded 1000x.

        Speaking of getting realistic, there’s a thread by Yascha Mounk on Italian doctors discussing the need for triage given overwhelmed hospitals.

        It’s one big huge duh, but is causing conniptions on the twitmachine. And then — I’m guessing coming from the US — bright and clever people pointing out that “we don’t have socialized medicine so we don’t have to worry about that.”

        The stupidity. It kills.

        Socialized medicine: nothing to do with death panels. Triage: always when resources run low. Resources: will always run low when you’re TOO STUPID TO TEST AND TREAT AND PAY FOR SELF-ISOLATION SO YOU CAN SLOW DOWN THE EPIDEMIC.

        /*must learn to stop yelling. must learn… must…. endless screaming*/

  5. quixote says:

    ” if Bernie does that…it just makes the stunt he pulled in 2016 even more disgusting.”

    And the following tweets.

    It really does. It really really really does.

    I just can’t get behind the coalescing around Biden. He just makes me sick. Him getting into the race to begin with, when Harris and Warren were already there, was pure sexism to begin with.

    Now we have a choice between a treasonous kleptocrat criminal and a harasser. Cool, cool.

    (Sure, the harasser is the lesser evil. As I say. Woot. Not.) (Yes, at least we’re rid of Bernie, who’s the only human on the planet who could have lost to the criminal.)

    • NW Luna says:

      Yes, yes, yes. I will forever be angry that Bernie and his egotism kept us from the best President in a century.

      • joanelle says:

        He had no right to run as a Democrat as he said he’d never change to Democrat- he is admittedly a socialist, pure and simply. He just plays around with words.

  6. dakinikat says:

    • Enheduanna says:

      I do not see Biden going two terms. I don’t think he wants to. I’m very curious what his VP selection strategy will be.

    • NW Luna says:

      the attack on Biden’s mental state is in part an attempt to distract people from the fact that Trump himself is temperamentally, intellectually and morally unfit to manage a 7-Eleven, let alone the country.

  7. Enheduanna says:

    JJ – thanks for passing along the Venus/Earth/Moon picture. It’s just awesome.

  8. NW Luna says:

    Bernie being the dog in a manger again.

    Sanders to remain in race despite another round of difficult losses to Biden

  9. NW Luna says:

    Management doesn’t care about preventing transmission to staff, not realizing without healthy staff they can’t care for patients.

    “Limit mask use to on the patient only,” read a Wednesday email from a Valley Medical Center (VMC) staffer to nurses, referring to surgical masks. “Staff will no longer wear masks, unless providing a care procedure requiring removal of the patient’s mask.”

    According to the email: “Masks are in critical supply” and that “due to disaster conditions VMC will be implementing alternate standards of care to conserve masks for critical and surgical use.”

    About an hour after the message went out, staff objected and it was retracted, according to Liz Nolan, a VMC spokeswoman, and the hospital found other ways to conserve and nurses were allotted one mask per shift.

  10. Enheduanna says:

    Welp – my company has an urgent business update meeting tomorrow. We are dependent on airline segments (flight segments) sold. It’s a worldwide company with offices everywhere. I expect we will be given the opportunity to take sabbaticals, etc. They’ve already been cutting payroll, even with senior leadership positions, prior to the pandemic.

    Wondering if they’ll offer early retirement……

    • NW Luna says:

      No way to meet by televideo? There are plenty of videoconferencing programs where you can share visuals and documents.

      Early retirement? I’d be tempted to do that if they offered a good package. 🙂

      • Enheduanna says:

        Oh yes – the majority of our meetings are by Webex. A large percentage of us work from home, including me. I work with trainers and e-learning developers from all over the world. The company is headquartered in the UK.

        Another possibility is an across the board pay-cut of 5% or such. They’ve done that before, after 9/11 IIRC.If an incentive to retire is offered, I’ll most likely do that.

  11. NW Luna says:

    • quixote says:

      This whole godawful process is giving me trauma flashbacks and new trauma.

      If there is a Judgment Day, the media are in grave trouble. This witness for the prosecution will never stop talking!

  12. jackyt says:

    In 2016, Bernie wafted on the wings of misogyny. No matter what, a significant percentage of his supporters, often the loudest and most virulent, (should that be virilent?) would never vote for a woman.
    This year, that ‘threat’ has been averted early. I’d like Bernie to stay in the race because (I suspect) his ‘revolution’ will tail off without bogeygirl to keep them fierce. Eventually, he’ll be standing by the side of the road waving down the campaign bus only to have it whizz by and leave him in the dust. And nobody will even bother to wave back.

  13. NW Luna says:

    That video on handwashing is fairly good, but here are a few points to keep in mind:

    Wash your wrists too.

    Best to point your hands down when washing so that water flows downward and doesn’t splash further up your forearms.

    Point hands down when rinsing, start rinse at wrists.

    Don’t turn off the faucet (last touched with dirty hands!) with your freshly washed hands! Use a paper towel or if lever-style handles can often nudge them with your forearm to turn off.

    Best to dry using paper towels or a fresh clean towel instead of one already used.

  14. bostonboomer says:

    I went to a doctor’s appointment today. They asked me if I had been around anyone who was sick and whether I had been to another country recently. Last week in the same place they didn’t ask those questions. They had hand sanitizer everywhere. On Fri I have to go to a hospital for an MRI. I just hope no one there has the virus.

    I drove home in the rush hour, and there was almost no traffic! We have 95 confirmed cases in MA and more than 1,000 people in quarantine. Most colleges are going to on-line teaching and they are talking about closing K-10 schools. I was supposed to go to a HS play tonight, but it was cancelled. In my apartment building there’s a sign saying that if you are sick or know anyone who is, you have to report it to the office. There are a lot of old people here.

    • quixote says:

      It’s actually good, I suppose, that they’re doing that early rather than late. With the lack of testing, we have zero freeboard to count on.

      Take care at the hospital! I’m sure they’ll know to keep everyone at least 3 ft apart.

      • bostonboomer says:

        Thanks. I’m starting to get really worried. The number of cases here is going up rapidly. The people who were at the Biogen conference were refused testing by the CDC and they ended up spreading the virus all over. They probably ate in restaurants, bought things in stores, rode public transportation, took taxis. It’s probably happening in other cities where it hasn’t been discovered yet.

  15. NW Luna says:

    Oh, just great.

    The Food and Drug Administration said Tuesday that it is postponing most inspections of foreign manufacturers of pharmaceutical products, medical devices and food imported into the United States. The inspections will be suspended through April.

    The agency said the postponements involve routine surveillance inspections of outfits that make FDA-regulated products. “For cause” inspections — ones in which the FDA is investigating a specific problem, for example — will be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

    The agency already had suspended most inspections in China.

    The postponement is likely to increase concerns about the U.S. reliance on drugs and ingredients made abroad and about possible shortages due to the novel coronavirus. Not only are many medications used in the United States manufactured overseas, but critical ingredients — and the chemicals used to make them — also are overwhelmingly made in China and other countries. Last month, the FDA said one drug is in short supply due to the virus, but it declined to say which one.

  16. bostonboomer says:

    Trump sounded like he was a death’s door in his oval office speech. I think he has the coronavirus.

    • quixote says:

      Zomg. It wasn’t journalists who caught it on purpose to infect him! It was the henchman of a trusted and brilliant dictator! so unfair!