Wednesday World War Zimmerman and Other Shoot First, Ask Later Stories

1e38816a7f94b410206ab6d18c5a5011Good Morning

Uh, this post will be a quick one. I have another staph infection and the dermatologist cut deep this time, so I really do not feel good at all! (I will try and stop by later, but I may just be too dang tired or hurt to get online.)

First we will start with some links that will probably enrage you, like they did me. Sorry if these stories are repeats, I am writing this post blind…not having read up on the blog or the comments.

Hey, check this out…in my state of Georgia: Man’s Family Says They Called 911 For Paramedics, But Police Showed Up And Shot Him Instead

A 911 call for medical assistance ended in the fatal shooting of Georgia resident Jack Lamar Roberson Friday. Roberson was acting erratically after possibly overdosing on his diabetes medication, leading his fiancé to call for paramedics and an ambulance. Instead, Roberson’s family charges that police showed up and killed the 43-year-old in front of his mother, fiancé, and 8-year-old daughter.

Waycross Police said they were responding to reports of a man trying to commit suicide and that he had become combative. Police Chief Tony Tanner said Roberson lunged at officers with weapons and refused to drop them.

Roberson’s fiancé, Alicia Herron, disputes the police story, comparing the scene to a “silent movie.”

“He didn’t have nothing in his hands at any time or period at all before they came, any time while they were here, anything. They just came in and shot him,” Herron told First Coast News. “He didn’t say nothing, the police didn’t say nothing, anything, it was like a silent movie. You couldn’t hear anything, all you could hear were the gun shots go off and I seen them going into his body and he just fell down.”

Roberson’s mother, Diane, lamented, “I saw my son go down with his hands up in the air, Lord Jesus, he had nothing in his in hands, we don’t even own a decent kitchen knife and they shot my baby down.”

According to the Atlanta Journal Constitution the GBI is investigating the man’s death..and the officers have been placed on standard administrative leave. Supposedly an overdose of diabetic medication can bring about the side effects that Roberson was exhibiting, from the TPM link above:

An autopsy was performed Monday, but results have not yet been released. If Roberson did indeed overdose on his diabetes medication, he may well have been experiencing the tell-tale symptoms of intense anxiety and a general sense of confusion.

Such a sad ending…where the hell do these cops get their training?

So, you may have heard about this other story out of Georgia…I read about it early yesterday morning on the North Georgia Access site...but it was only a quick blurb, Huffpo has more here:

An email shared among the members of the Phi Kappa Tau fraternity at Georgia Tech was quickly condemned Monday after it began spreading online.

The email, with a subject line of “Luring your Rapebait,” was posted online by TotalFratMove Monday, and in turn picked up by several other websites. It was apparently an attempt by an active member of Phi Kappa Tau to explain how members of the house could get laid at parties:

Ok, if it is before midnight … A group of girls is standing around, grab a bro or pledge bro and go talk to them. First, introduce yourself and get their name, ask if they are having a good time, and then ask if they want anything to drink. If they say yes, walk them to the bar and tell them what we have to drink. If they say no and they look like they are in a sorority, ask them if they are in a sorority (DUH). If not, choose one of the following: where are you living, where are you from, have you been here before, how are classes going, or where all have you been tonight. Then proceed to have a conversation. IF THEY ARE HAMMERED AT ANY POINT BEFORE MIDNIGHT, JUST SKIP THE CHIT CHAT AND GO DANCE.

The email’s author is apparently really excited about the prospect of dancing, and a couple paragraphs later he explains dancing to him is essentially just having a lady grind against a brother’s crotch. Then he instructs how to “escalate”:

Try to twist her hips around to face you and dance front to front. FROM THERE THE OPTIONS ARE UNLIMITED! You can make-out with her (tongue on tongue), you can stick your hand up her shirt (not right away though), you can go for a butt grab (outside or inside the shirts), or use your imagination. ALWAYS START WITH THE MAKING OUT!!!! NO RAPING.

The writer lays out what he calls “the 7 E’s of HOOKING UP!” They include “Encounter,” “Engage,” “Escalate,” some words describing male arousal, and then “Expunge (send them out of your room and on their way out when you are finished. [sic].” He concludes, in all capital letters, “IF ANYTHING EVER FAILS, GO GET MORE ALCOHOL.”

(Read the whole email at TFM.)

Georgia Tech has known about these emails for a couple of weeks now, but they will not comment on the matter. You can read more at the link.

There is another Fraternity email “discovery” this time its Dartmouth: Dartmouth’s Most Wholesome Frat Bros Send The Classiest Emails

For about a year, the brothers of Dartmouth College’s Beta Alpha Omega—the straight-laced fraternity that famously hosted Rick Perry after a Republican debate in October 2011—have corresponded about house debauchery, fraternity rituals, and other key topics using Google Groups, apparently to avoid using Dartmouth’s own servers (and the eyes of college administrators).

We recently discovered that whoever set it up forgot to lock it down, enabling anyone to find a complete, updating archive of Beta’s internal conversations on Groups.google.com. We’ve dug up the choicest excerpts below.

(Update: The Google group is now locked. We’ve uploaded an archive of the emails mentioned here to DocumentCloud.)

I guess you can imagine where this is going?

Nothing here is particularly shocking. Within the fraternity system, this is how bros bond. But it’s a bit less funny when your house is under suspicion for supplying alcohol to a rapist.

We came across the list-serv while researching Beta’s involvement in a sexual assault that took place on Dartmouth’s campus. On Saturday the house threw a rager at its Hanover, New Hampshire mansion, where, according to a college-wide email, brothers served a male guest and Navy sailor who later that night allegedly raped a female student.

In an email sent to brothers on Sunday afternoon, the chapter’s president warns:

I hope you all saw this email from earlier this afternoon. If ANYONE has any information about this, or knows anyone who might, please let me know asap. This could very quickly get very bad for the house if we do not get on top of it.

The concern (albeit for the house’s reputation, rather than the victim’s safety) is understandable: The fraternity was kicked off campus in 1996 after a series of violent/homophobic/sexist incidents involving pledges and other fraternities, and is rumored to have installed hidden cameras throughout the house for the purpose of watching other brothers copulate with sorority sisters. (Perhaps the progenitor, in a much more extreme form, of the house’s taste for creepshots.)

You can read the rest of the disgusting “stuff” at the link…it makes me think about the story in the New York Times, where young college women are looking for this kind of hook-up. Remember that?

More twisted shit…from the politicians this time: The Latest Voter Suppression Fad: Two Tiers

Remember this phrase: two-tier voting. You may be hearing more about it.

Officials in Arizona and Kansas are making preparations for elections with two categories of voters. There will be those who provided proof of citizenship when they registered to vote, and will therefore be able to vote in all local, state, and federal elections. And then there will be those who did not provide proof of citizenship when they registered. Those people will only be able to vote in federal contests — if at all.

In both states, the preparations underway are reactions to the Supreme Court’s June ruling in Arizona v. Inter Tribal Council, the legal battle over Arizona’s 2004 voter identification law, known as Proposition 200. While the headlines in June painted the ruling as a blow to Proposition 200, officials in both Arizona and Kansas have chosen to focus on the leeway the Supreme Court left them. Kansas State Election Director Brad Bryant laid out the argument in an email he sent to county election officers at the end of July.

“As the Supreme Court made clear, its decision applies only to ‘federal registration forms’ and covers only federal elections,” Bryant wrote, according to a copy of the email provided to TPM. “States remain free to require proof of citizenship from voters who seek to also vote in state elections.”

Using that logic, both states have made moves toward two-tier systems.

More at the link…you can read about how this new system is going into effect in Kansas.

I guess you can see the rest will be in link dump format.

Then you have this nut, from Arizona: GOP Lawmaker: National Park ‘Thugs’ Carrying Out Work of ‘De Fuhrer’

Brenda Barton, a Republican state representative in Arizona, took to her Facebook page Monday evening (possibly because her own website is down) to decry the National Park “thugs” who were “carrying out the order of de Fuhrer”:

Barton was upset over the closure of the World War II Memorial and other national parks, shuttered last week due to the ongoing government shutdown. The Arizona lawmaker called upon local pair-having sheriffs to intervene and prevent the park rangers from arresting visitors.

Barton wasn’t finished, either, going on to call Obama “this man in the People’s House” and an “Imperial President”:

Arizona Democrats were quick to point out the irony of Barton’s objection to the closures, as it was her party that precipitated the shutdown.

Geez, what an idiot! Wait, check that…batshit right wing lunatic! But I mean what do you expect right? Arizona is The only state that stopped welfare payments.

Now a look at what judges can do: Can a Teen Get an Abortion if She Doesn’t Have Parents to Give Consent? That’s Up to the Judge | Care2 Causes

Or a priest? For Minn. Catholics, Troubling New Abuse Scandal – ABC News

Or a government website? Problems with Healthcare.gov Likely More Than Just Traffic | Geekosystem

Speaking of which, I am sure you’ve seen this from a couple of nights ago: Stewart Grills Sebelius on Obamacare: ‘Level of Incompetence That’s Larger Than What It Should Be’ | Mediaite

I have to add a few cartoons to this post, they are too good to put off until Friday.

How to Save the Republican Brand – Political Cartoon by Jen Sorensen, Self-syndicated – 10/08/2013

Cartoon by Jen Sorensen - How to Save the Republican Brand

AAEC – Political Cartoon by David Horsey, Los Angeles Times – 10/07/2013

Cartoon by David Horsey -

House of Horror by Political Cartoonist Jeff Darcy

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Weekend at Boehners by Political Cartoonist Mike Luckovich

138522 600 Weekend at Boehners cartoons

ted cruz’s vision by Political Cartoonist Bill Schorr

138531 600 ted cruzs vision cartoons

Seriously…it may be a joke, but it seems like the truth to me: Headline of the Day | BobCesca.com

Here’s something you won’t see every day or even every generation.HemorrhoidsPoll

I have no idea how something so depressing can be so funny, but I’m laughing.

Here’s the context of the poll conducted by Public Policy Polling.

Voters say they have a higher opinion of hemorrhoids than Congress, by 53% to 31%.

Yup, I’m laughing too…

https://i2.wp.com/southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/shared/news/2013/oct/southpark-s17e03-press-release.jpgFinally, tonight is the South Park episode that tackles George Zimmerman.   Go to that link to see the clip to the show, also check out a link to a script written by a fan a few months ago, it actually is pretty sweet.

From the clip it looks like Cartman is dressed like Brad Pitt from World War Z…guess we will just have to wait and see what Trey and Matt come up with later tonight.

Okay, what ever happens today…I hope you all talk about it in the comments. So, what are you reading and thinking about this morning…afternoon…or evening?


30 Comments on “Wednesday World War Zimmerman and Other Shoot First, Ask Later Stories”

  1. bostonboomer says:

    “Waycross Police said they were responding to reports of a man trying to commit suicide and that he had become combative.”

    They thought he wanted to commit suicide, so they helpfully did it for him?

  2. bostonboomer says:

    What a post! It turned out not to be a “quick one.” The cartoons are fabulous–love “Weekend at Boehner’s.”

    Thanks, JJ. I hope you feel better soon!

  3. bostonboomer says:

    WSJ: Janet Yellen, a Backer of Pushing the Fed’s Policy Boundaries

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303918804579109500690940692.html

    • ANonOMouse says:

      Thanks for the link. This decision by Obama will please Dak, if I remember correctly this was the choice she supported.

      • dakinikat says:

        Yup. Yellen has had the most accurate of all the prognostications at the Fed about the economy and is concerned about unemployment, the sluggish housing market and the fiscal drag. I blogged a speech from her two years ago from Denver and if you go look at it she has been spot on about our recovery malaise.

  4. bostonboomer says:

    Poll finds 80% of serial killers vote Republican.

    http://s1.zetaboards.com/Express_Yourself/topic/4991625/1/

    • RalphB says:

      Birds of a feather, you know… 😉

    • ANonOMouse says:

      And this batshit crazy meme extends to the U.S. Congress.

      Michele Bachmann says Obama is selling arms to terrorists and the end times are coming!!

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/07/michele-bachmann-end-times_n_4060063.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

      And here is Michele’s prayer, which made me laugh-out-loud.
      “the baton of global leadership has been passed by America to the Mullahs, the Marxist world, and other dark forces,” she says she’s still very upbeat about the whole situation.
      “Rather than seeing this as a negative, we need to rejoice, Maranatha, come Lord Jesus, His day is at hand,” Bachmann said. “When we see up is down and right is called wrong, when this is happening, we were told this: that these days would be as the days of Noah.”

      Get on back to your closet case Michelle, he needs a dance partner.

      • ANonOMouse says:

        “Bachmann: People think I’m Miley Cyrus but ‘I’ve never done twerking in my life’ ”

        Well that explains a lot of things, including hubby.

  5. Pat Johnson says:

    Except for tuning into the Red Sox games all summer I more or less kept away from t.v. And now I understand why it was a smart move all along.

    Just listened to some nimrod congress person place the blame for the lack of funding for the military death benefits on Obama’s head. Seriously?

    The quality of people currently elected to congress from the Tea Party is amazing. They just keep raising my blood pressure listening to the stupidity that continues to flow out of their empty heads.

    There has to be a “revolt” gathering somewhere to free us from this nonsense calling itself governance.

  6. RalphB says:

    Harold Meyerson taunts the “moderate” Republicans in the Washington Post.

    … While The Post counts 21 GOP House members who have declared themselves in favor of ending the shutdown by passing a clean resolution, most of them have done nothing to compel the House Republican leadership to allow such a vote.

    … The tea party faction, which by most estimates includes about 40 members, wields vast power over the leadership and the caucus, while the center-right contingent wields zilch. Both factions have enough votes to block legislation backed by the House leadership if the Democrats also vote against it, but it has been tea partyers, not centrist-moderates, who have used that veto power. Unlike their tea party counterparts, the center-right members lack gumption and imagination.

    The gumption gap is understandable; unlike the Republican radicals, the moderates fear primary challenges next year. But there is a way to avoid Republican primary challenges, though it would take a leap of political imagination. To vote his beliefs and duck that challenge, all a center-right Republican has to do is declare himself an independent.…

    If they truly believe that government by hostage-taking is no way to run a democracy, they shouldn’t have too much trouble defending their defection. They could argue that their party has been transformed into a closed sect that can never win a national majority, or that it has descended into a hysteria that has run roughshod over such conservative values as prudence and balance, not to mention a modicum of strategic sense.

    They could dub themselves Independent Republicans or True Republicans. They could tell their constituents that they put the interests of the nation above those of their party. If that’s not a winning argument in a swing district, Lord only knows what is…

    Worked for Joe Lieberman.

  7. dakinikat says:

    John Lennon would have been 73 today.

  8. dakinikat says:

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/republicans-are-awfully-close-to-violating-the-constitution-20131008

    Have Republicans forgotten that they too must abide by the Constitution?

    The document is explicit in its instruction to America’s federally elected officials – make good on the country’s debts. “The validity of the public debt of the United States,” the 14th Amendment states, “shall not be questioned.”

    This is not some arcane biblical reference that needs to be translated from scraps of parchment. In fact, its purpose and intent are fairly well documented.

    The amendment is the product of a post-Civil War Congress that wanted to be sure the country would not be saddled with Confederate debt, and that the debts of United States would be honored. Then, as now, this promise written into the Constitution offered creditors confidence that lending to America – indeed, investing in America – would be safe.

    “Every man who has property in the public funds will feel safer when he sees that the national debt is withdrawn from the power of a Congress to repudiate it and placed under the guardianship of the Constitution than he would feel if it were left at loose ends and subject to the varying majorities which may arise in Congress,” argued Sen. Benjamin Wade, a Republican supporter of the amendment.

    Indeed.

  9. dakinikat says:

    Tea Party’s shutdown lunacy: Avenging the surrender of the South

    “The American elite has lost control,” and may not rein in the Tea Party, economic analyst Doug Henwood warns Salon

    http://www.salon.com/2013/10/09/tea_partys_shutdown_lunacy_avenging_the_surrender_of_the_south/

    Looks like the punditry is finally catching on that these folks are neoconfederates and secessionists and nothing less!!

    • RalphB says:

      It’s about freakin’ time they noticed!!

    • ANonOMouse says:

      I’m glad the article mentioned the Koch brother connection too. The Koch’s are the major financial backers of the movement and Obama eluded to the power of this sort of rogue billionaire in his speech yesterday.

      And the picture in that article reminded me of a Civil War picture that my former boss decided to hang in the foyer of a business office, just outside the conference room. After he hung the picture I took it down (without his permission) and reminded him that the Confederate Flag was deeply offensive to many people, including me, and JUST POSSIBLY, his African American clients. He looked stunned when I reminded him that Nathan Bedford Forrest, who in the picture was holding the Confederate Flag in the middle of raging battlefield scene, was a Grand Wizard of the KKK. Not long after that I quit. I knew he was racist, but I’d never seen him exhibit such an overt expression of it. So, let me just tell ya how it is here, THESE FUCKERS HAVE VERY LITTLE GOOD SENSE AND NO SOUL WHATSOEVER.

  10. ANonOMouse says:

    “Kochs to Congress: Focus on spending, not Obamacare”

    Whooops……Maybe the Koch’s are starting to cave, or maybe they want the TP’ers they bought and paid for to go after the big programs, SS/Medicare/Medicaid. Or maybe having the finger pointed directly at them is making them nervous.

    http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/09/20886586-kochs-to-congress-focus-on-spending-not-obamacare?lite

  11. RalphB says: