Wife Beating, Union Thugs and an “old Soviet Union, Marxist-Socialist theme”

I don’t pretend that I detest the Right Wing and the ideals they champion. That disgust I feel towards Republicans primarily comes from their stance on choice and their War on Women. But…when I see some of the other crap that is coming from the mouths of GOP Representatives and GOP “surrogates” and DINOs, I have to laugh and shake my head and say out loud, “What the fuck?”

Take the three things I have mentioned in the title of this post…here’s a summary of my WTF opinions for you.

First off, the Wife Beating 101 course in being taught by non-other than recent Romney campaign BFF Pat Robertson. Not that this asshole has ever said anything outright misogynistic, racist, hateful shit before (snark)…but this latest comment so soon after appearing with the Republican Nominee for PRESIDENT has to be addressed by Romney, or at least called out by the MSM, for christ’s sakes.

Pat Robertson: Since ‘We Don’t Condone Wife-Beating These Days’ Husband Should ‘Move to Saudi Arabia’ to Beat Her | rightwingwatch.org

Mitt Romney this weekend stumped alongside televangelist Pat Robertson, not minding Robertson’s legacy of incendiary, insensitive, heartless and apocalyptic rhetoric that has gotten him in trouble in the past. Apparently, Robertson’s own CBN has become aware of Robertson’s problematic statements, and may even be editing his controversial claims out of episode archives.

For example, today on the 700 Club’s “Bring It On” segment where viewers ask Robertson questions, one man wondered how he should go about repairing his marriage with a wife who “insults” him and once tried to attack him.

“Well, you could become a Muslim and you could beat her,” Robertson responded. “This man’s got to stand up to her and he can’t let her get away with this stuff,” Robertson continued, “I don’t think we condone wife-beating these days but something has got to be done.”

What the Fuck?

Pat Robertson to humiliated hubby: ‘Well, you could become a Muslim and you could beat her’ | The Raw Story

Reacting to a letter from a viewer who said he’s lost his self confidence due to his wife insulting him, Robertson said Monday: “Well, you could become a Muslim and you could beat her.” He then turned to his female co-host, who seemed to balk at the offhanded remark, and asked: “You don’t want to go to Saudi Arabia?”

“I think this man’s got to stand up to her,” Robertson continued. “He can’t let her get away with this stuff. And, uh, you know, I don’t know… I don’t think we condone wife beating these days, but something’s got to be done to make her…”

“Not physically,” Robertson’s co-host injected. “But I mean, why would she not want to talk through their problems? That’s so…”

The televangelist cut her off. “She is just totally, well, she’s rebellious,” Robertson said. “Chances are she was rebellious with her father and mother, she’s a rebellious child and she doesn’t want to submit to any authority. And she probably had temper tantrums when she was a kid, you know, the little girl, ‘I hate you, I hate you,’ and she wants to slap her father. Well, that’s the same kinda thing.”

“She’s transferred the father now,” he continued. “I hate to say everything’s gotta be some kind of psychological counseling, but that’s the problem. She does not understand authority. When she was growing up, nobody made her behave, and now you’ve got a 13-year-old in a 30-year-old woman’s body. Now, what do you do with that? Well, you can’t divorce her according to scripture. So I say, move to Saudi Arabia.”

Of course, Romney must condone the diarrhea that flows with such force from Roberson’s mouth…but it ain’t like Pat hasn’t spewed before.

In another relationship advice segment from July, Robertson recommended a man “dump” his Muslim girlfriend, calling it “Christ-like” because the Bible prohibits religious inter-marriage. He justified that by saying that Jesus didn’t want Christians to be “nice and friendly” all the time.

You know, here in Banjoville…we have our fair share of Christians who aren’t “Nice and Friendly.” They are outright assholes and since Pat Robertson is obviously a “approved” Romney supporter and surrogate, it seems to me that Mormons can be just as “not” nice and friendly as Christians can. Hypocrisy and hate brought to you by the religious right.

In other “WTF” news, Allen West: Obama Campaign Has ‘Soviet Union, Marxist-Socialist Theme’ | Video Cafe

Yeah, check this out…

Tea party favorite Rep. Allen West (R-FL) is slamming President Barack Obama for using the word “Forward” as his campaign slogan, insisting that it is an “old Soviet Union, Marxist-Socialist theme.”

“This is about whether we continue to be a republic governed by the Constitution,” West told a Republican Jewish Coalition rally in Boca Raton, Florida on Sunday. “Or will we become a liberal-progressive, bureaucratic, welfare nanny state, which is exactly what the other side wants?”

He continued: “They want to bring out an old Soviet Union, Marxist-Socialist theme for their campaign called ‘Forward’. I have to ask you one simple question. Where is the Soviet Union today?”

After the Obama campaign unveiled its campaign slogan in April, conservative outlets like The Washington Times and Breitbart.com warned that the word had a ties to Marxism.

Hmmmm…ya know, when I was in Washington, DC this summer I made the discovery that the DC Metro slogan is…”Forward.”


Well, if there was one “old Soviet Union, Marxist-Socialist” themed “thing” out there…it’s gotta be public transportation. But as that link to C&L pointed out…

“The Obama campaign apparently didn’t look backwards into history when selecting its new campaign slogan — or maybe they did,” Fox Business host Lou Dobbs said at the time. “That’s because ‘Forward’ has a very long history with Marxists and socialists and communists.”

“Forward” is also the motto of Wisconsin, where Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan serves as a congressman.

(h/t: Think Progress, Shark Tank)

Alrighty then…now for the Union Thugs.  As you all know, Chicago teachers are striking, for the first time in 25 years.

4 Reasons Chicago’s Teachers Are on Strike | Alternet

Editor’s Note: For additional information on this topic, check out AlterNet’s Education page and two recent AlterNet stories, A Chicago Teacher Speaks Out: This Is Why We Fight and Why I’m Striking .

Across mainstream media and through the megaphone of city government, Chicago public school teachers have been consistently demonized and criticized for everything from self-serving greed, to negligence of their duties, and lack of care and respect for students.

Mayor Emanuel and his hand-picked school board—stacked with millionaires and former charter administrators—along with CPS CEO Jean-Claude Brizard, have continued to use their dominion over the school system to apply a corporate model of school reform to the Chicago Public Schools.

This type of “reform” has allowed private operators to take control of public schools, undermine the teachers union, close and turn around neighborhood schools rather than invest in them, and over-test students rather than provide them a comprehensive and nurturing education.

Meanwhile the Chicago Teachers Union, numbering nearly 30,000 members, is demanding that CPS cease this drift toward putting control of schools in private hands, and provide the necessary conditions for effective and equal public education—putting the needs of students ahead of corporate and government powerbrokers.

So what are the teachers fighting for?

Go to the link to read about the four things…I know that Dakinikat covered it on Sky D this morning.

That anyone would be against what these teachers are fighting for is beyond me. (That goes along with my “WTF” attitude to the GOP and their anti-union platform.) However…I do feel that this particular issue in Chicago is key…showing that my disgust does not adhere to party lines. I am equally painting Democrat and Obama supporter/surrogate Rahm Emanuel with my “What the fuck?” brush here.   Romney Tries to Bait Obama Over Chicago Teachers Union Strike | FDL News Desk

Mitt Romney is clearly trying to pick a fight over the Chicago Teachers Union strike, and force Barack Obama into making a statement on the issue that will wedge him between his base’s beliefs and his policy preferences, which in this case stand at odds with one another.

Here’s Romney’s short statement:

I am disappointed by the decision of the Chicago Teachers Union to turn its back on not only a city negotiating in good faith but also the hundreds of thousands of children relying on the city’s public schools to provide them a safe place to receive a strong education. Teachers unions have too often made plain that their interests conflict with those of our children, and today we are seeing one of the clearest examples yet. President Obama has chosen his side in this fight, sending his Vice President last year to assure the nation’s largest teachers union that ‘you should have no doubt about my affection for you and the President’s commitment to you.’ I choose to side with the parents and students depending on public schools to give them the skills to succeed, and my plan for education reform will do exactly that.

The problem with this statement is that the preferences of the teachers and the children are in concert. Larger class sizes in schools without air conditioning have led to classes being taught in 96-degree heat. The 20% longer school day and increased class size and workload on teachers, without renumeration (the 16% proposed increase over four years is less than the 20% increase in class time, especially when you account for inflation), does not serve teachers or students who get less one-on-one face time and dedicated learning opportunities. And because of the revamped teacher evaluation system, based largely on standardized testing, the mostly minority students in Chicago will get taught toward a test biased against them and unable to provide them with the skills needed to survive in a 21st-century job market.

And I completely agree with David Dayen here on this point:

The more important part of this is Romney trying to pick a fight with the President, by putting him squarely on the side of teachers unions, and drawing a false contrast where Romney sides with “parents and students.” He cites a speech given by Vice President Biden at the American Federation of Teachers conference. However, it’s completely unclear where President Obama, were he to weigh in on the CTU strike, would come down. His former chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, is on the side opposite the union. His DNC convention featured a screening of the right-wing, anti-union film “Won’t Back Down.” His Education Secretary, Arne Duncan, used to be the head of the Chicago Public Schools, and is seen as a leading reformer. His education policy has consistently favored the kind of reform policies that the unions in this case are trying to stop, including charter schools, teacher evaluations based on student testing (though in recent years he has rejected “teaching to the test), longer school days and turnarounds for “failing” schools.

Romney wants to bait Obama into a response to change the subject on an election slipping away from him. He figures that someone will get angered no matter how Obama chooses to respond, seeing as the union/reform split is a contentious one inside the Democratic coalition.

And here I have to agree on the narrow point that I would like a response from the President. I would like to know exactly where he stands on the right to strike, on the idea of teachers being paid commensurate with their time in the classroom, on class sizes and teaching to the test and funneling money meant for public schools into charters. I think it would be quite illuminating.

UPDATE: The alleged 16% increase in pay over four years offered by the Chicago Public Schools (or 19% if you believe ABC’s Terry Moran) is actually nowhere near a 16% increase.

Yeah, where does Obama stand on this one? I know he is being silent…but it only goes to prove that anyone in politics these day deserve to be questioned…you know…accountability for both Romney and Obama when it comes to their supporters, endorsers and surrogates. I think that when you have silence from both candidates when it comes to the Robertsons, Allens and Emanuels it only proves one thing, they must agree with the opinions of their supporters…and to that I say, “What the Fuck?”

32 Comments on “Wife Beating, Union Thugs and an “old Soviet Union, Marxist-Socialist theme””

  1. pdgrey says:

    Yes, JJ, this is a problem. and I agree with the teachers. And this is going to put Obama in a spot. For the record I have never liked Rahm. I wish I could remember where I read it but rumor is, Hillary made Rahm go in the closet ( the small room adjacent to the oval office) when she came in the oval office to speak to Bill.

    • I don’t like Rahm either…but I was pressed for time so I could not mention the few other DINO things like, Stupak, Accommodation & Compromise and all those “Dems” in the State government over in Alabama.

      • bostonboomer says:

        I can’t stand Rahm. One thing I like about Obama is that he couldn’t stand Rahm either and couldn’t wait to get rid of him. That said, I’ve never thought Obama was pro-union.

    • HT says:

      I think Obama’s problem is that he has no idea of what unions are about. He just rests his opinions on what others tell him. He has no relationship, has never belonged to a union, and has never sat across from the table from them. He is uneducated. He truly believes all that pap that has been spread since the Raygun first attacked them. That does not show him in a very worker friendly light, but I doubt that any politician these days cares what the workers thing. They only want the workers vote. Cynical – you betcha.

  2. NW Luna says:

    …my disgust does not adhere to party lines. I am equally painting Democrat and Obama supporter/surrogate Rahm Emanuel with my “What the fuck?” brush here.

    This is exactly why SkyDancing is such a great blog. Nobody gets away with shit, no matter what party they’re in.

  3. pdgrey says:

    Can I ask someone here to bring a video of FDR that Chris Matthew’s played here. I don’t know how to. Chris’s intro started at 7:13, then played at 7:18. Its about how pubbies loved SS. and helping the people until they had to pay for it.

    • pdgrey says:

      I should have added, It’s not just the FDR speech, but he also played the March 27th Jay Leno that mittens was on, That needs to be found too. John Feehery made a fool of himself on Chris’s show. Mittens said on Jay’s show “you can’t play the game like that”, about people that didn’t have insurance before they got sick.

  4. Thanks for handling this post BB! xoxo

  5. Silent Kate says:

    The whole “Forward” slogan I thought was stupid, somewhat copying MSNBC. Then I saw the Republican convention and realized just how backwards the Repubs are and decided Forward was brilliant! Since the Repubs are the antithesis of forward it seems to point out a clear choice. Robertson thinks that woman needs someone to control her just like the Repubs want to control all women’s bodies. Bare foot and pregnant is what women have to look or ward to if the Repubs manage to win this election…surely, if there is a God, she wouldn’t allow that to happen!

  6. Fannie says:

    I see, it was Glen Beck that came up with that forward soviet crap, well here’s a good theme song for Allen West:

  7. Pat Johnson says:

    Am I the only one who thinks we all appearing in a “bad dream” these days?

    How is it that so many Fruit Loops are holding office and making insane decisions and proposals that make absolutely no sense whatsoever? None!

    Alan West needs a caretaker yet his speeches are covered because some like minded idiots voted him into office.

    Pat Robertson should have been committed a long time ago but he owns the t.v. station (thanks to fools sending him money every day) where he is able to insert pure bullshit into the dialogue and is covered by the press as if he were sane.

    Of course they are going to challenge the “Forward” meme since it is the exact opposite of where they are attempting to lead the rest of us.

    How did we get to this point? Where once the genuine crackpots were labeled as such but the role has been reversed to include them at the table where throwing their poop is considered a “fail and balanced” exercise.

    Some of these idiots are beginning to make Palin sound like a Mensa candidate.

    • HT says:

      Makes one think that Rod Serling didn’t die, doesn’t it. For years I had nightmares about the episode where the men didn’t realize that Oops, that nice young girl ws the main problem.

    • RalphB says:

      Speaking of wingnuts, this funny post says all we need to know about the state of the wingnutosphere. 🙂

      The 3 Stages Of Republican Despair As Performed By Jay Nordlinger

      The polls aren’t looking too good for Mitt “Mitt” Romney and panic is in the air. Despite the soothing dulcet tones of the Romney campaign, fear of The Return Of A Blah President has gripped the faithful who see the End Times drawing nigh and it is not the good End Times where White Jesus takes them up to the Heaven that looks like Augusta National Golf Club before they let the coloreds and the wimmins in. Oh no, it’s going to be more like Boyz ‘N The Hood + sharia law x Sandra Fluke performing abortions live on Nickelodeon. Also, more Kardashians, so no one wins.

      In a brief hour span at NRO’s Shit Conservatives Say, noted ethno-humorist Jay Nordlinger runs the gamut of emotions starting with clutching at sliver of hope that might keep him afloat:
      Eleven minutes later, after Jesus failed to appear to him in a vision or speak to him via his Lunchable, came the long dark tea-time of Nordlinger soul:
      And then came the phase we like to call: Fuck You America. Die In A Fire! I Hate You! I Hate You!:
      Jay Nordlinger isn’t mad at you America. He’s just very very disappointed in you and thinks you should go fuck yourself.

      Bless his heart.

  8. RalphB says:

    Charles Koch has an editorial titled “Corporate Cronyism Harms America” in the WSJ, It’s gotta be some kind of fucking satire. Koch Industries takes tons of corporate welfare via farm subsidies, oil company subsidies, and every kind you could name.

    • HT says:

      satire, yup that’s the tickey. Didn’t he also recently give another interview wherein he said some other gobbledgook that indicated that he didn’t support Mitt’s current party, but also refused to stop payrolling them?

  9. RalphB says:

    The Bush Admin was much more negligent than we’ve been led to believe in the run up to the 09/11 attacks. This is damning to me.

    NYT: The Deafness Before the Storm

    • dakinikat says:

      I am still convinced most of the Bush foreign policy team should be in jail. This is especially true for rummy,cheney, wofie and condi. They were world class incompetents and criminals.

  10. James Austin says:

    Author’s use of the term DINO shows that he is using argument by intimidation. Anyone not conforming obediently to post-liberal modern DNC dogma is to be attacked. No dissent is to be tolerated. No questions. Millions of Americans who disagree enrage him.

    • dakinikat says:

      You really spin a good story. However, you don’t really notice there is dissent on these things. This blog is one of those voices that does that. We only find Romney an unacceptable alternative to anything. That’s different than being full throated DNC/Obama supporters. Most of us are registered independents here so, do your homework.

  11. James Austin says:


    Obama/ Holder have effectively pardoned the Bush team. Take it up with the administration that refuses to act.

    Oh, that’s right .. you can’t. You’d have to criticize Saint Barrack and issue indictments to Saint. Bill for signing the 1998 invasion of Iraq act into law, and do the same to every DNC member of congress on the “team”. The official name of the bill reflects the House.

    Al Gore won on a promise to follow through on HR 4665, but since he refused to take office he might be exempt. Except for his Senate and committee votes.