Late Night: Women’s Voices on Egypt
Posted: February 8, 2011 Filed under: Egypt | Tags: 2011: days of revolt, Women 14 Comments
Picture circulating on twitter: Wael Ghonim holds the mother of Khaled Said, the man whose brutal murder in June by Egyptian police inspired the "We are all Khaled Said" facebook page by Ghonim, that in turn served as a catalyst for the current-day protests.
Hello all, Wonk here with some reads I’d like to share with the late night crowd. Tonight’s theme is going to put a spotlight on what women have to say about Egypt. Normally I’d start out with a youtube or quote from a protester or an Arab woman, but commenter Pilgrim e-mailed me a fantastic piece by Canadian columnist Linda McQuaig that I thought spoke volumes. It’s called “Arabs love democracy, but do we?“:
The fact that the Arab world is awash with dictators has long been a key piece of evidence used to whip up anti-Muslim sentiment in the West.
Surely all those dictators are proof that Arabs don’t love democracy the way we Westerners do, that they are culturally, religiously and perhaps congenitally attracted to tyrannical strongmen as leaders.
This widely held view will be difficult to sustain here now that wall-to-wall TV coverage of the Egyptian (and Tunisian) uprisings has exposed the truth: Arabs don’t like tyrants any more than we do.
In fact, they love democracy — so much so that hundreds of thousands of them have risked serious harm by taking to the streets to defy a regime that for decades has been a leading practitioner of repression and torture of dissidents.
That’s just the beginning. Check out the rest of McQuaig’s column for more.
Now, let’s turn to my go-to Egyptian source — Mona Eltahawy. On Tuesday afternoon, Mona put out the following tweets. First this:
As excited as I am at media coverage of #Egypt revolution I am disappointed at overwhelmingly male experts they turn to. Where r women?’
..and then this:
We keep hearing “Where are women of #Egypt revolution?” I want to know where are women analysing Egypt revolution? #Jan25
In her follow-up she made it clear that her point wasn’t to ask “where are the women” but to draw out the intellectual and analytical contributions of women:
I know women are taking part in #Egypt revolution. My point is different: where women analysing it, speaking as experts! #Jan25
Mona got quite a few tweets pointing to women’s voices pouring out in response, and I’d like to highlight some of them.
First, an Egyptian woman that Mona Eltahawy highlighted herself — Magda Sharara, who has posted the following entry– “Fearless Egyptians: A message of love and respect” — on almanacmag.com (The Mag of Egypt). An excerpt:
Until January 25th 2011, most Egyptians were their own fiercest critics, seriously or jokingly. They railed against their lack of democracy, between a Sheesha and a coffee, and whined about their repression and the corruption surrounding them. Their glorious past slipping and almost forgotten. Sometimes nostalgia, and other times chaos seemed to guide them.There was anger in the Egyptian streets, frustration, and a feeling of irresolution and drift. No wind of stability was blowing their way, for a very long time.
But today, millions of Egyptians are standing up for their rights, fighting, screaming, chanting with joy and sorrow, and some are bravely dying for an indisputable democratic and free country in the middle of Tahrir square. They have forever changed the way the world perceives them.
They are recharged, and their revitalization is contagious. They are the heroes of a modern revolution, they are the fearless Egyptians that death does not scare.
They deserve to be respected, encouraged, honored, saluted, thanked, loved and remembered.
It is not death that we should fear, but a life not lived in dignity; that is the real tragedy.
Magda’s message really deserves to be read in its entirety.
Next up… Sunita Rappai, a British Indian journalist living in Cairo. She has a wonderfully refreshing take on Egypt, which balances competing perspectives on what’s going on in Egypt. In her blog piece from earlier today, “O Revolution, where art thou?,” Sunita concludes:
From an outside point of view, the ‘revolution’ is in danger of failure – if it hasn’t failed already. Mubarak shows no signs of relinquishing the presidency, the emergency laws are still in place and the constitution remains the same. While the regime has been engaging in (unprecedented) talks with the opposition – including the banned Muslim Brotherhood – its grip on power, and the accompanying state security apparatus, is tighter than ever. Insiders at the talks suggest that the government’s mood is hardline, with few real concessions (I heard from one good source that Suleiman’s contribution at one meeting was to read out a pre-prepared statement – when he was questioned on one point, he read out the statement again).
But inside Egypt, the mood is slightly different, at least for the moment. Many feel that real gains have been made, with Egyptians finally sending a clear message to the government, and the world, that they are ready for democracy and willing to fight for it, if necessary. The idea that they have broken the ‘fear barrier’ and the political apathy that dogged them is a powerful one. They trust that Mubarak will fulfil his promises, which will one day pave the way for real democracy and constitutional reform. It is a process that will take time and they are prepared to wait for it.
The country is moving again, but no one knows where it’s heading. In some ways, everything has changed. In other ways, nothing has. It all depends on who you ask.
Sunita’s piece is another one that I recommend reading in its entirety, to get the full effect of her social observations on what’s going on in and around Tahrir square. I also enjoyed her latest post — “10 reasons why a foreigner like me loves Egypt…”
The twitter handle “Mahagaber” was also tweeted to Mona as “one of the women in Egypt covering the revolution.” Scanning through Maha’s latest tweets, the one that has caught my eye straight away is this:
@JohnKingCNN: Do you realize if Mubarak leaves it will be the first time in our history that Egypt will have a “FORMER” President #jan25
That says so much in so few words.
Another handle tweeted to Mona, sarahshakour, had this to say on Tuesday evening, in response to a tweet from CNN trying to prop up the White House:
More like flip-flopping to me RT @CNN White House getting ‘specific’ on Egypt tone – http://bit.ly/hPjJeJ (via @RT PoliticalTicker)
Thrillingham left this note to Mona, mentioning the wonderful Dima Khatib and another name:
@monaeltahawy honestly, twitter has much better analysts than anything i’ve seen on tv. you @Dima_Khatib @Rouelshimi and others are great
Got to add Rouelshimi to my twitter feed!
Here’s one from Dima in the afternoon:
PEOPLE’s POWER in action: http://t.co/Mv7OapQ Watch & remember: When a nation walks the streets, it heads towards history #jan25#egypt
“When a nation walks the streets, it heads towards history.” I like that a lot.
…and the latest from Rouelshimi:
@CarlosLatuff The govrmt started a rumor that protesters in Tahrir were getting bribed with free KFC meals to be there. It’s a popular joke.
So funny I forgot to laugh. Mubarak should really quit his day job and become a stand up comedian already.
Another person reports to Mona from Holland and says that there have been “three women (Stienem, van Boon, and Samuel) each discussing Egypt with great knowledge” on a talkshow. A similar comment from Finland, that a woman named Sanna Negus has been doing the Finnish national coverage on Egypt.
Last week Leah McElrath Renna posted an article called “Obama’s Egypt #FAIL?” on Huffington Post. A brief teaser:
President Obama and his Administration appear to have made a familiar deal with the devil in response to the popular pro-democracy uprising in Egypt.
Here’s a tidbit from young college graduate Rana Salem (scroll down under the New Castle section):
Rana Salem, a young graduate of Alexandria University, explained the emergence of the remarkable popular movement in recent weeks. She spoke of both the authoritarianism of Mubrak’s regime and the economic problems – unemployment, insecurity, poverty – driving the revolt. She said of the Egyptian people, “they really are making history – it’s not just a saying”.
Interview with political science professor Mona El-Ghobashy, on the Rachel Maddow Show, Feb 7 (starts around the 1:37 mark):
Slate’s Double X blog already highlighted human rights and democracy activist Ghada Shahbandar and Dakinikat frontpaged that story last week, but a very informative link in reference to Ghada popped up in response to Mona’s query — “Egypt: We Are Watching You, Three Egyptian Women Use the Internet to Promote Democracy“:
Meet the trio: Engi Haddad, a chain-smoking, husky-voiced marketing manager; Bosayna Kamel, a well-known TV news reporter; and Ghada Shahbandar, a university professor. Against the backdrop and momentum of the Kifaya (Enough!) protest movement, these powerful women came together to found Shayfeen.com, a Web site and on-the-ground effort to witness and record the reality of the Egyptian first multi-party election. As journalist Boysana says, their goal was to bring the “real” news to the people, not “their” news.
There are some documentary clips there, too. Give it a look if you have the time.
Over at The Berkeley Blog, anthropology professor Rosemary Joyce has an interesting read up called “Of people and things: Egyptian protest and cultural properties” in response to the idea that we need to protect artifacts in Egypt because they are a “shared global heritage”:
Cairo isn’t Baghdad: the people of Egypt are seeking rights we all cherish, and even as they do, they are trying to protect those things that the rest of the world is too easily elevating over the safety and rights of people.
As an archaeologist, I will regret any losses. But as a human being, I will not agree that we should make the mistake of treating people as less valuable than things.
An interview last week with another anthro professor, Farha Ghannam, called “The rich symbolism of the square in Cairo.” The article opens with the following:
When she first traveled to Cairo for fieldwork in 1993, Farha Ghannam recalled, Tahrir Square was mostly used as a bus depot.
Today, it’s the battleground on which the future of Egypt is being fought – a space rich with symbolism and meaning, held and defended by protesters at the cost of some lives.
“There’s this feeling [among demonstrators] that ‘if we lose at Tahrir Square, we’re going to lose the fight,’ ” said Ghannam, an anthropology professor at Swarthmore College who studies the use of public space in Egypt.
A few more meaty and intriguing reads real quickly (see excerpts in the comments):
“The dignity of Egyptian youth” by Azza Karam
“Myths of Mubarak” by Elizabeth Shakman Hurd
“Egypt: Days of Anger in the Age of Terror” by Sarah Ghabrial
Many more names showed up on Mona Eltahawy’s twitter. I tried to gather as many as I could together in one place to give you a sampling of other women’s voices on Egypt you might want to check out:
Blogdiva
MCTSamuel
Dinamotion
Jilliancyork
Techsoc
BBClysedoucet
Amanisol
Naglarzk (economics)
ShahinazAhmed (development)
Maha Azzam via ChathamHouse
Nadiaglory
Adhaf Soueif (reporting from Tahrir square)
Mona Zulficar (legal)
Nahlahayed
NancyMousa
Felmansy (13 year Egyptian girl living in the US and aspiring to be a reporter)
Missroory (16 years old “Masriya in SF” who wants to follow in Mona’s footsteps)
Sarah Carr
Well, that’s it for me right now. What are you late-nighters and early morning people reading?
Wonk, this is fantastic……….I’d like to hear what the women say about the relation between the army and the police.
I’ll be reading the links in the morning, very tiring day.
Fannie, hope you’ve gotten some rest by the time you read this.
Had to fix a broken link (Sarah Ghabrial’s “Days of Anger in the Age of Terror”) — it should work now.
If there are any more broken links, let me know.
I didn’t want to make the top post too heavy, so here are some more excerpts…
From the Azza Karam (“Dignity of the Egyptian Youth”) link above:
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More:
I highly recommend clicking over. It took me forever to decide which parts to excerpt and emphasize, it’s all so good.
The work you have done on this post is amazing.
From the Elizabeth Shakman Hurd/Myths of Mubarak link:
Sarah Ghabrial, “Days of Anger…”:
Noticed these articles about Suleiman on Al Jazeera tonight.
Suleiman: The CIA’s man in Cairo
“Mubarak knew that Suleiman would command an instant lobby of supporters at Langley and among ‘Iran nexters’ in Washington – not to mention among other authoritarian mukhabarat-dependent regimes in the region. Suleiman is a favourite of Israel too”….
“In Egypt, as Habib recounts in his memoir, My Story: The Tale of a Terrorist Who Wasn’t, he was repeatedly subjected to electric shocks, immersed in water up to his nostrils and beaten. His fingers were broken and he was hung from metal hooks. At one point, his interrogator slapped him so hard that his blindfold was dislodged, revealing the identity of his tormentor: Suleiman. Frustrated that Habib was not providing useful information or confessing to involvement in terrorism, Suleiman ordered a guard to murder a shackled prisoner in front of Habib, which he did with a vicious karate kick.”….
“A far more infamous torture case, in which Suleiman also is directly implicated, is that of Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libi…Under torture there [Egupt], al-Libi “confessed” knowledge about an al-Qaeda–Saddam connection…. al-Libi’s “confession” was one the central pieces of “evidence” presented at the United Nations by then-Secretary of State Colin Powell to make the case for war. As it turns out, that confession was a lie tortured out of him by Egyptians….Al-Libi was eventually sent off, quietly, to Libya….Al-Libi’s death coincided with the first visit by Egypt’s spymaster Omar Suleiman to Tripoli…..By the time Omar Suleiman’s plane left Tripoli, Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libi had committed ‘suicide'”.
Also
Cables: Suleiman favoured by Israel
“Preference for Egypt’s new vice-president to succeed Mubarak disclosed by leaked documents obtained by WikiLeaks.”
Thanks for adding those links here, affinis.
Big shocker there (not)
The West seems to think this is about their preference when it is really about the Egyptian people’s preference. The Egyptian people not only do not “prefer” Suleiman but from everything I’ve seen they consider him no change at all from the current regime which they are protesting. And as Azza Karam writes so eloquently–the people want the current regime and the way of being it signifies to cease.
AJE interview with Protester Mona Seif in front of the parliament building at 4 am Cairo time:
Mohammed Khan / AJE:
I really enjoyed this post, and am reading the links as I have time.
Once, long, long, long ago (almost 35 years!), I travelled to Egypt. I was only 14 and very impressionable. I have to admit, I hated it. I was molested in an elevator and nearly raped in a store. I was there as part of a school study group. The supervision was not good, obviously, but I didn’t realize that at the time. All I knew was the men were acting like animals and at 14 I didn’t know how to handle it.
When we left the government decided to use our school group (perhaps all American tourists, I don’t know) as a bargaining chip. We weren’t allowed out of the country. Our hotel rooms were gone, so we had to stay in the airport. I spent 24 hours there. It wasn’t bad and, besides the pyramids, was the best part of the trip. The women’s loo was down a flight of stairs, and right outside was one of the places men gathered for prayers. You can imagine the gauntlet you had to run to get a pee! Once in the loo, we had to pay for toilet paper (a common practice in Europe too at that time, and not a big deal). I paid a kind old lady for mine. There were no doors, only curtains. I sat down on the pot, treasured square of paper clutched in my hand. Looked down, looked up when I felt something strange… there was a goat, peeking under the curtain, eating my square of tp!!! I laughed so hard. Maybe that’s where I learned to like goats come to think of it.
Reading these links, listening to these voices, watching the women in Liberation Square, let me know how much Egypt has changed. The focus on Egypt in the last two weeks has forced me to revise my decades old opinion and I’m grateful for it.
Sima, your comment here is very moving…reminded me a little of Shirley Sherrod’s story of overcoming what happened to her father. Thank you for sharing your reflections.
Sima wrote:
Yes, and *we* have changed with the Egyptians. Where others see protesters who missed their moment to instantly depose Mubarak, I see an Egypt that is slowly but surely laying to rest the myth that they are any different than Lady Liberty’s “tired, poor, huddled masses, yearning to breathe free.” That myth belongs to a world that no longer exists, though the old guard is still trying to hold on.
Altmuslimah:
Civic participation
Women take an active role in Egypt protests
Excerpt:
“Women and girls are beside boys in the streets.” — Egyptian feminist Nawal El Saadawi