Live Blog: “The Adults Take the Stage”

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The first Democratic primary debate will begin soon. Let’s watch together and document the highs and lows. Unless the CNN questioners are really insistent on avoiding discussion of important issues, I expect this debate to be much more substantive than either of the Republican debates so far. So does Brian Beutler at The New Republic: The Adults Take the Stage in the Democratic Debate.

Relative to the two Republican presidential primary debates already behind us, Tuesday night’s Democratic primary debate is expected to draw a modest TV audience. Back on January 31, 2008, when candidate Barack Obama was still a political phenom, CNN logged the most-watched presidential primary debate in its history to date, drawing an average of 8.3 million viewers. With the second Republican primary debate last month, the network nearly tripled that.

We surely have Donald Trump to thank for the disparity. Had he sat out the race this year, he would have deprived Fox News and CNN of his singular combination of fame, media savvy, insensitivity, and cringe-inducing combativeness. But even absent Trump, Republican primary debates would probably draw bigger audiences than their Democratic counterparts. It isn’t wrong or biased to say that Democrats make comparatively boring television. But that isn’t a strike against Democrats, either. It’s a reflection of the fact that the Republican Party, unlike the Democratic Party, is dominated by reactionary voters, which makes its candidates prone to saying or doing outrageous things out of a sense of necessity….

In the first Republican debate, Donald Trump stood by his history of making insulting comments about women, particularly Rosie O’Donnell, and his polling lead increased. To preserve his viability, Marco Rubio announced his opposition to abortion even in cases of rape and incest—and it worked. In the second Republican debate, two doctors (Rand Paul and Ben Carson) declined to correct and admonish Trump for suggesting a link between vaccines and autism, and Carly Fiorina burnished her credibility with conservatives by fabricating a ghoulish summary of Planned Parenthood sting footage.

The backdrop for the first Democratic debate also includes a governing meltdown in the House Republican conference, which has been unable to align behind a successor to House Speaker John Boehner, whom conservatives successfully deposed more than two weeks ago.

I don’t expect anyone to make personal attacks in tonight’s debate–although Lincoln Chafee is a wild card. I think the debate will be generally polite though. It won’t be “must-see TV” for those who like watching reality shows. People who are looking for some crassness and stupidity can follow Donald Trump on Twitter. I hear he’s going to live-tweet tonight’s debate.

Hillary Rodham Clinton Signs Copies Of Her Book 'Hard Choices' In New York

The main thing Hillary needs to do is be herself. Bernie needs to try to get noticed by some non-white, non-“creative class” voters. As for the other three candidates, O’Malley needs to get some voters to know who he is, and Chafee and Webb need really need to explain what they are doing on that stage.

Bernie Sanders will be debating formally for the first time in a very long time. The Chicago Sun-Times: Here’s Bernie Sanders debating — in 1998.

Vermont senator and Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders doesn’t have nearly as much debate experience as his rival Hillary Clinton, so when footage of one of his debates resurfaced, it had to be shared.

The footage is from the Vermont congressional race in 1998, when Sanders ran for re-election against Republican Mark Candon. Sanders ended up winning that race.

Not much has changed for Sanders since then, whether you’re talking about his policies or his often disheveled hair.

Tonight’s debate will be the first time the two leading Democratic candidates will be able to face off on issues like trade and economic equality.

What about Joe Biden? The NYT reports: Joe Biden Won’t Be Participating in the Debate.

CNN can put away the extra lectern. Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. isn’t coming.

Mr. Biden’s office said he would watch the Democratic presidential debate from his official residence at the Naval Observatory in Washington.

“Vice President Biden will host a high school reunion following which he will watch the Democratic debate at the Naval Observatory,” an Obama administration official said.

The high school classmates, a group fewer than 50, will not be staying for the debate, the official said, but it was not known who else, if anyone, the vice president might be watching with.

Time for creepy Uncle Joe to quit playing games.


Thanks to Dakinikat for this one from the WaPo: Joe Biden isn’t running for president, by Daniel Drezner.

The media is beginning to tire of the Biden story. It’s the media that stoked the Biden flame, but after two and a half months of it, they’re starting to grow weary of the non-story. As my colleague Greg Sargent noted five days ago:

Mr. Vice President, enough is enough. The first Democratic presidential debate is in five days. Tell us what you’re going to do already. …

But the game Joe Biden is playing now, in holding back on making his decision and telling us what he plans to do, just has to end, and fast. At best it’s becoming a farcical distraction that is beneath him. At worst it’s becoming a serious waste of our time.

And now the New York Times’ Maggie Haberman and Peter Baker have added to the drumbeat:

Perhaps not since Mario M. Cuomo, then the governor of New York, left a plane bound for New Hampshire idling on a tarmac in 1991 has there been such an extended and late-hour public agonizing by a major political figure over whether to run for president. Mr. Biden initially said he would decide by the end of summer. Now aides are researching filing deadlines to see if he can keep his options open into November.


The danger for Mr. Biden, as his advisers know all too well, is that intrigue can easily turn into fatigue. After 10 weeks of his being egged on by Democrats disenchanted with Mrs. Clinton and by a news media eager for a race to cover, Mr. Biden increasingly faces demands that he make up his mind.

When you’re being compared to Mario Cuomo on dithering, it’s time to fish or cut bait.

Again from the WaPo: Martin O’Malley, looking for a spark.

Here’s a phrase you’re certain to hear from Martin O’Malley after he takes the debate stage here: “15 years of executive experience.”

O’Malley, who served for seven years as Baltimore’s mayor and eight years as Maryland’s governor, routinely touts his record of getting things done and argues that’s what sets him apart from his Democratic rivals.

So far, that argument hasn’t resonated with many voters. O’Malley remains mired in the single digits in national polls as well as those from Iowa and New Hampshire. Even Democrats in O’Malley’s home state of Maryland are more inclined to support Hillary Rodham Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

O’Malley’s campaign is banking on a breakout moment on Tuesday night, as voters across the country get their first chance to size up all five candidates seeking the Democratic nomination.


More about O’Malley’s experience at the link.

On the remaining candidates:

Yahoo Politics: The invisible candidacies of Jim Webb and Lincoln Chafee.

Somewhere in America, Jim Webb and Lincoln Chafee are alive and running for president. We know this because they have campaign websites, Twitter accounts and communications directors for their campaigns, although fairly uncommunicative ones. And on Tuesday night they will take their places on the stage with Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and Martin O’Malley for the first Democratic presidential debate, fielding questions from Anderson Cooper. CNN has set a low bar to appear on the stage, requiring only that candidates reach an average of 1 percent in three national polls — a threshold Webb and Chafee barely meet. But one absolute requirement is that participants actually be running, which is why you won’t see “Other” on the stage, although in this compilation, he or she was running at a comparatively strong 2.5 percent.

Still, by some measures — such as campaign appearances, media visibility or returning reporters’ messages — it can be hard to discern the difference between either of these former United States senators and the elusive “Other.” Repeated emails to Webb’s spokesman Craig Crawford last week — first inquiring about his public schedule, then just seeking signs of life — went unreturned. Perhaps Crawford doesn’t like Yahoo News for some reason, although a reporter for Mother Jones magazine who tried reaching Crawford last week had an identical experience. The last public utterance of Webb’s I could track down, apart from occasional tweets, was a Sept. 28 appearance on Alan Colmes’ Fox News radio show, in which he agreed with Colmes that he was a long shot for the Democratic nomination but predicted that if he is the candidate, “I think we will win, and win big.”

Chafee’s aide Debbie Rich, described as his “communications consultant,” was only slightly more responsive than Crawford. After twice affirming that Chafee had no public schedule for the five days leading up to the debate, she was asked for evidence that he was seriously running for president and replied tersely: “He was welcomed by residents in Exeter, N.H., on Tuesday. Very good reception.” On Wednesday, Chafee took to Twitter to boast that Grammarly, a grammar-check website, had ranked his followers tops in grammar in their Facebook posts, and he followed up that news with a burst of commentary on issues as varied as the Mideast, mental health and trade policy, amounting to five tweets over two days. Donald Trump tweets more in his sleep. Chafee’s media coverage is so scanty that he couldn’t even raise a scandal last week when, speaking at a foreign policy forum, he came to the defense of the late Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez, a position as idiosyncratic, and considerably more fraught, as endorsing the metric system. Which he has also done.


Andy Borowitz at The New Yorker: All Eyes on Bitter Chafee-Webb Rivalry.

LAS VEGAS (The Borowitz Report)—When the curtain rises on the first Democratic debate of the 2016 campaign, all eyes will be on the bitter rivalry between the former Rhode Island governor Lincoln Chafee and the former Virginia senator Jim Webb.

While both camps are mum about the vicious hatred that has consumed the two men on the campaign trail, political insiders familiar with the Chafee-Webb blood feud are expecting fireworks in Las Vegas on Tuesday night.

“It’s always hard to make predictions about a debate, but one thing is guaranteed,” the political scientist Davis Logsdon said. “These two men cannot stand each other.”

Sources differ over what caused the white-hot hostility between the two former officeholders, but most agree that Webb’s two-per-cent support in some polls deeply rankles Chafee, who has garnered only one per cent.

Read the rest at the link.

That’s it for me. I hope you will join me to watch and comment on the debate.

Sunday Open Thread… #CocksNotGlocks


Good Afternoon

Just a few links today, I’ve been saddled with a migraine and yesterday, after a wet morning participating in the Sorghum Banjoville Parade, we spent the whole day picking up the pug puppy for my daughter.  Enjoy the pictures at the bottom of the post….here are the stories for this Sunday.

This was the little back and forth I had with my cousin David earlier today. Remember, David is going to become a priest…he plans to enter the seminary in 2016.



This protest is perfect…in so many ways:

Students Plan To Open-Carry Dildos Over Controversial Texas Campus Gun Law «

More than 1,000 people have RSVP’d to attend an unusual protest at the University of Texas. In protest of a law that permits students to carry concealed weapons on campus, students are going to come to class wielding dildos.

After the legislation was signed into law by Texas Greg Abbot last June, protests at the University located in Austin have garnered national attention. The description for the protest’s event page reads:

“On June 1, 2015, Gov. Greg Abbott signed S.B. 11, also known as the ‘campus carry’ law. S.B. 11 provides that license holders may carry a concealed handgun throughout university campuses, starting Aug. 1, 2016. The law gives public universities some discretion to regulate campus carry.”

More than 160 professors at the university signed a letter speaking out against the law. One professor even went as far as to resign over the matter. The organizers of the protest want to point out the fact that while it would be perfectly fine for a student to carry a gun into the classroom, bringing a dildo in would get them in trouble. So now students are calling for people to take up the cry#CocksNotGlocks.

“The State of Texas has decided that it is not at all obnoxious to allow deadly concealed weapons in classrooms, however it DOES have strict rules about free sexual expression, to protect your innocence. You would receive a citation for taking a DILDO to class before you would get in trouble for taking a gun to class. Heaven forbid the penis.”

This protest is absolutely hilarious. American culture is absurd, we glorify violence in our media but vilify sex. This confronts that head on in a creative way. The protest is scheduled to take place on August 24, 2016. The organizers are encouraging everyone to come to the protest, even if they do not attend the University of Texas.


I guess you can imagine the size of the dildo is equal in relation to the size of the gun? Insofar as overcompensating for uh…stuff?

Rest of the links are dumped:

Who Bombs a Peace Rally? An Unprecedented 95 Dead in Turkey capital as Accusations fly | Informed Comment

Check this page out and sign the petion, thank you Susie Madrak!

Protect Every Woman s Health


Military investigator for GOP-led Benghazi Committee says he was fired for not concentrating on Hillary

Top 10 Strange Things done with the Medieval Dead –

Birth Control and Abortion in the Middle Ages –

Until Now, A Non-Fiction Writer Hadn’t Won The Nobel Prize In Literature For Half A Century | ThinkProgress

A writer and journalist from Belarus won the Nobel Prize in Literature on Thursday. Svetlana Alexievich became the first nonfiction writer to win the prestigious award in half a century.

Alexievich’s work charts the rise and fall of the Soviet Union: It chronicles World War II, the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, and the Chernobyl nuclear disaster. Through it all, the 67-year-old writer presents the human face of these tragedies.

“It’s not really about a history of events. It’s a history of emotions,” Permanent Secretary of the Swedish Academy Sara Danius said following her announcement of the award. “She’s devised a new kind of literary genre. It’s a true achievement not only in material but also in form.”

Alexievich developed a documentary-style approach to writing, because, she said, “[A]rt has failed to understand many things about people.”

“But I don’t just record a dry history of events and facts, I’m writing a history of human feelings,” she wrote on her website. “What people thought, understood and remembered during the event. What they believed in or mistrusted, what illusions, hopes and fears they experienced. This is impossible to imagine or invent, at any rate in such multitude of real details.”

Trained as a journalist, Alexievich has said that she interviewed at least 500 people for each of her five books. She blended her tireless research with literary techniques to present “thousands of voices, destinies, fragments of our life and being.”


Everything you need to know about Svetlana Alexievich, winner of the Nobel prize in literature | Books | The Guardian


The books look very interesting.

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Now some pictures, welcome Hugo Pugo…



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Friday Nite Lite: Pass the popcorn


I think that about says it all…well, as far as the title of the post goes.

I have to say that drawing of Chaffetz is spot on perfect.

10/09/2015 Cartoon by David Horsey

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10/09/2015 Cartoon by Chan Lowe

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Climate Meeting: 10/09/2015 Cartoon by Rob Rogers

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Pink Birth of Venus: 10/07/2015 Cartoon by J.D. Crowe

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SPEAKER of the HOUSE: 10/09/2015 Cartoon by Deb Milbrath

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Untitled: 10/09/2015 Cartoon by Bob Gorrell

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Friday Nite Lite: Let the mother go down with the ship??


Well, the GOP will pretty much let the mother die period…they don’t give a rat’s ass about women at all…GOP lawmaker doesn’t get why Planned Parenthood exists: ‘As a guy,’ I can just go someplace else for care

Yup. So…..Did ya hear?

New ‘Anti-Abortion Pill’ Kills Mother, Leaves Fetus Alive – The Onion – America’s Finest News Source

Pro-life advocates celebrated approval of the new anti-abortion drug UR-86 by the Food and Drug Administration Tuesday, calling it a “safe and effective method” for terminating pregnant women while leaving their unborn children unharmed.

Pfizer, manufacturer of UR-86—dubbed the “last-morning-ever pill”—said the drug is intended only for occasions when the mind-set or politics of the mother threaten the life of the fetus.

“This drug is designed for extreme cases in which the mother cannot or should not be saved, or when her health has been placed before that of her unborn child,” Pfizer spokesman Anthony Wright said.

The orally ingested drug first tests for the presence of a fetus. If the outcome is positive, a near-lethal dose of barbiturates is released, which induces a coma in the expectant mother until the child is born, at which point a second, fatal dose is released.

The FDA’s approval came after months of clinical trials firmly established that the fetus would be nourished and protected in the womb of the near-deceased UR-86 user.

Gender-equality advocates praised the introduction of the drug, calling it an “innovative solution” to the highly polarizing national abortion debate.

“This is a step forward for equality,” men’s rights activist Charles Hackett said. “For too long, women have had an unfair advantage in the outcome of a pregnancy. UR-86 levels the playing field for husbands and boyfriends across America.”

Clay Bennett editorial cartoon: 10/01/2015 Cartoon by Clay Bennett

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Yes, you’re goddamn right about that!

Pro-life advocates, many of whom had petitioned the FDA to approve UR-86 while the drug was still in the research-and-development stage, also reacted warmly to the FDA’s decision. Randall Terry, founder of Operation Rescue, praised the new pharmaceutical for its potential use in cases of rape and incest, saying it could help end the shame and humiliation of such trauma while saving the life of the fetus.

“Victims of sexual assault can feel trapped, like they’ve got nowhere to turn,” Terry said. “Now, they can solve their deep, internal problems once and for all, without unfairly condemning their children.”

Yet critics say UR-86’s prescription-only status and the fact that most health insurance plans do not cover the drug limit its effectiveness, as it is not available to those who need it most.

“If people can’t afford the drug or get it prescribed on short notice, they’re not going to have enough time to act, especially when their wives want to end the pregnancy fast,” men’s issues commentator Stan Dynes said. “UR-86 should be made available over the counter as soon as possible. It’s the husband’s right to choose if this drug is right for him, and neither the government nor the medical elite should get in the way of that decision.”

Now for some news, not the onion, to put the comics in perspective:

Alabama to stop issuing driver’s licenses in counties with 75% black registered voters

Which is related to this:

Alabama Hosing Down Black Voters: 10/02/2015 Cartoon by J.D. Crowe

Cartoon by J.D. Crowe - Alabama Hosing Down Black Voters


Oregon Shooting – Truthdig

Mike Luckovich: Campus Carry – Mike Luckovich – Truthdig

Bye-Bye Boehner – Truthdig

Planned Parenthood – Truthdig


Cagle cartoons, up next. You know what to do…

Putin and Obama by Political Cartoonist Osmani Simanca

Best Laid Plans by Political Cartoonist Mark Streeter

Trump Tax Plan by Political Cartoonist Jeff Darcy

Lines in Syria by Political Cartoonist Nate Beeler

American brain disfunction by Political Cartoonist Joep Bertrams

Russia backs Assad by Political Cartoonist Khalil Rahman

Gun culture and NRA by Political Cartoonist Dave Granlund

A couple of different views on Syria and Russia there.

Much Like Earth: 10/02/2015 Cartoon by Tom Curry

Cartoon by Tom Curry - Much Like Earth

Clay Bennett editorial cartoon: 10/02/2015 Cartoon by Clay Bennett

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10/01/2015 Cartoon by Chan Lowe

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09/28/2015 Cartoon by Chan Lowe

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10/02/2015 Cartoon by John Cole

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10/01/2015 Cartoon by David Horsey

10/01/2015 Cartoon by Paul Berge

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Next up, a right wing cartoon…for what it is worth:

10/02/2015 Cartoon by Bob Gorrell

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Benghazi Strategy: 10/02/2015 Cartoon by Rob Rogers

Cartoon by Rob Rogers - Benghazi Strategy

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Friday Nite Lite: Fresh Squeezed Orange Boehner

Good Evening

Oh yeah…you can imagine the orange juice that runs in the streets of DC will be of the blood red kind.




To the cartoons we go!!!!!!!


Boehner Quits – Truthdig


Mike Luckovich: Francis Goes to Washington – Truthdig


09/24/2015 Cartoon by Jimmy Margulies

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09/25/2015 Cartoon by David Horsey

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Clay Bennett editorial cartoon: 09/25/2015 Cartoon by Clay Bennett

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This next one is my favorite of all the Pope cartoons:

Clay Bennett editorial cartoon: 09/24/2015 Cartoon by Clay Bennett

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Trump-2016: 09/25/2015 Cartoon by Paul Fell

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09/25/2015 Cartoon by Joe Heller

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09/25/2015 Cartoon by Bob Englehart

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09/23/2015 Cartoon by Bob Englehart

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Papal Visit: 09/25/2015 Cartoon by Rob Rogers

Cartoon by Rob Rogers - Papal Visit

Ben Carson: 09/24/2015 Cartoon by Rob Rogers

Cartoon by Rob Rogers - Ben Carson


Most Vulnerable: 09/22/2015 Cartoon by Rob Rogers

Cartoon by Rob Rogers - Most Vulnerable

Liberated: 09/18/2015 Cartoon by Rob Rogers

Cartoon by Rob Rogers - Liberated


Reagan Debate: 09/17/2015 Cartoon by Rob Rogers

Cartoon by Rob Rogers - Reagan Debate

GOP Voters: 09/15/2015 Cartoon by Rob Rogers

Cartoon by Rob Rogers - GOP Voters

Pope Francis in the USA – Truthdig


Mike Luckovich: Yogi Berra – Mike Luckovich – Truthdig


Jeff Danziger: DerMerkelWagen – Jeff Danziger – Truthdig

09/24/2015 Cartoon by Ed Gamble

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POPE’S SPEECH: 09/24/2015 Cartoon by Deb Milbrath

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Bruce Plante Cartoon: Yogi Berra: 09/24/2015 Cartoon by Bruce Plante

Cartoon by Bruce Plante - Bruce Plante Cartoon: Yogi Berra

Cartoonist Gary Varvel: Yogi Berra: 09/24/2015 Cartoon by Gary Varvel

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09/24/2015 Cartoon by Phil Hands

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09/16/2015 Cartoon by Chan Lowe

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Cagle cartoons:

REAL TEST FOR VOLKSWAGEN by Political Cartoonist Marian Kamensky

Emission drop by Political Cartoonist Hajo de Reijger

VW Insurance by Political Cartoonist Larry Wright

VW Stinker by Political Cartoonist Steve Sack

Diesel Bug by Political Cartoonist Adam Zyglis

Pope by Political Cartoonist David Fitzsimmons

Yogi Berra RIP by Political Cartoonist Milt Priggee

Pope You Lie by Political Cartoonist John Darkow


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Woman in Red: Debate, Election and the Shutdown…The GOP’s Albescent-churian Candidate



Good Morning

As promised…I bring you the latest edition of The Woman in Red….(It has taken me days, in fact almost the last 24 hours has been straight on through.)

You can read the earlier issues at these links:

The Woman in Red: Protector of the Uteri, Defender of Vajayjay Rights and Fighter Against the #WarOnWomen | Sky Dancing

The Woman In Red: Against The Monsters On The Hill… A comic-ill perspective observation | Sky Dancing

The Woman In Red: Battle of the Sexes…Fight Until the Vacuum Cleaner is Broken | Sky Dancing

As before, click the image to see the full size…and then click on the image itself to enlarge the picture, otherwise you will not be able to read the captions.

So….here we go!

Woman in Red:


Debate, Election and the Shutdown…

The GOP’s Albescent-churian Candidate

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Tonight is the Republican Presidential Candidate Debate…..

4 things to watch in Wednesday’s Republican debate | MSNBC

Republican Presidential Debate 2015: Start Time, TV Channel, Radio Info For Second GOP Debate

Gloves likely to come off at second GOP 2016 debate – NY Daily News


Let’s take you to the debate venue, shortly before the event is to begin……


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Bloody hell, I am exhausted!

Hope you enjoyed this edition of The Woman in Red, and the introduction of the new arch nemesis…S.P.Ermand…The Sperm Man!

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Sunday Reads : Hey GOP, shove it…and your emailphilia too!


Good Morning

I truly hate this week, it brings back such traumatic memories.

Is the U.S. safe from another 9/11 terror attaack? | Al Jazeera America


A Pocketful Of Terror: Deciphering My Toxic Dust From 9/11

Last living 9/11 Ground Zero search and rescue dog returns for a New York City salute | Tampa Bay Times

This post is a quick open thread. I am working in another Woman in Red series post, as you know…that can take a while to create, so if I cannot get it posted later today…it will be definitely up on Wednesday.

DOJ: Hillary Had the Authority to Delete Personal Emails from Server | Mediaite

The Department of Justice said in a legal filing this week that Hillary Clinton had the proper authority to delete personal emails off her private server.

Judicial Watch attempted to get a court order to make sure that Clinton’s emails weren’t being deleted, but according to USA Today, the DOJ ruled that the former Secretary of State had the authority to delete any non-work-related emails.

They wrote, “Government agencies are not required to take steps to recover deleted material based on unfounded speculation that responsive information had been deleted.”



But that is not the only thing:

Hillary Clinton’s email server wasn’t wiped: report – NY Daily News

The company that managed Hillary Clinton’s private email server says it has no knowledge the server was “wiped,” the Washington Post is reporting.

That could mean that more than 30,000 emails Clinton says she deleted could be recovered.

Clinton has said that personal correspondence while she was secretary of state was deleted from the server. About as many emails pertaining to administration business have been given to the State Department, which is reviewing them and releasing them periodically by court order.

Deleting emails is not the same as wiping a server. Deleted emails often can be recovered from a device that has not been “wiped” — that is, completely erasing the data from the hard disk.

FTR: “No question” Hillary Clinton had the authority | Still4Hill

FTR: “No question” Hillary Clinton had the authority

Thank you Ruby Cramer and Chris Geidner as well as Karen Finney.

Justice Department Lawyers: Clinton Had Authority To Delete Personal Emails

In a court filing on Wednesday, the Justice Department argued on behalf of the State Department that there was “no question” Hillary Clinton had the authority to determine and delete personal email without supervision.

But of course…DOJ Exonerates Clinton’s Handling Of Email But Few Report It | Crooks and Liars

It’s a disgrace that the only “major” media outlet to report this was the right-wingWashington Times. After months of having Hillary Clinton’s email non-scandal gracing every major media outlet in the country, not one single Beltway reporter caught this one until the Washington Times did. And even after they did, no one reported it until late Friday, whenBuzzfeed and Chris Hayes managed to scrounge a report about it.

Fuck you GOP…and Media shitheads!


The rest of today’s links: Nearly Half of Republicans Could imagine backing Military Coup | Informed Comment


Deporting 12 million people? No sweat.

by digby

Via TPM, Trump talks about thedetails of his deportation plan:

“I think it’s a process that can take 18 months to two years if properly handled,” Trump said on Thursday, according to CBS.

And the wall along the southern border that Trump plans to build? He said he won’t build it “until all the undocumented immigrants are out,” according to the report.

“I will get them out so fast that your head would spin, long before I even can start the wall,” Trump said. “They will be out of here. You know we have tremendous problems of crime.”

so_far_so_good_462969WATCH: Fox & Friends is Really, Really Desperate to Defend Trump’s Sexism – The Daily Banter

Little Monsters: Fear Mongers At Fox News Demonize Innocent Child Refugees | News Corpse

ECHIDNE OF THE SNAKES: Hilarious! In Louisiana You Should Go To A Dentist For Your Pap Smears

Defending Planned Parenthood, again – The Boston Globe

Planned Parenthood is getting all of the attention for the obvious reason: It remains the nation’s largest provider of abortions. It is also, not coincidentally, an essential source of health care for American women — in particular, low-income women who access its services through Medicaid and the Nixon-era Title X family planning program. Abortion makes up three percent of the services Planned Parenthood provides. The bulk of its patients go there for cancer screenings, contraception, and tests and treatments for sexually transmitted diseases — services that can save lives and reduce health care costs.

All of this is, too, is fairly well known: more grist for the ongoing debate over abortion rights that continues to roil the country. Still, it bears repeating. To hold one organization accountable for differing political viewpoints — and hold women’s health hostage in the process — is as wrong now as it was the last time around.




And we will end it on a happy note:


First known use of the F word was in Medieval England: researcher

e first known use of the F bomb was in medieval England almost 1,000 years ago.

Paul Booth, an English history researcher at Keele University in the United Kingdom found the earliest known use of the word in medieval court documents, according

The word was used as a likely nickname for someone called “Roger F*ckebythenavele.” Booth does not believe it to be the man’s real surname, but believes it was a derogatory nickname. The name appears in court rolls beginning in December 1310.

“I suggest it could either mean an actual attempt at copulation by an inexperienced youth, later reported by a rejected girlfriend, or an equivalent of the word ‘dimwit, ‘ i.e. a man who might think that that was the correct way to go about it,” Booth said, according to the site.

The F word is of Germanic origin and has related words in Dutch, German and Swedish.

Before Booth’s discovery, the earliest known use of the word was in a poem written in both English and Latin called Flen flyys, according to Medievalists. The line reads, “fvccant vvivys of heli,” which translates to, “they f*ck the wives of Ely.”

That’ll do.


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