Petitions…Petitions: Open Thread

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Running of the Santas in Germany……but check out other pictures of Santas hauling ass here. Click image

Good Evening

Have you signed any petitions regarding Gun Control recently? I saw this article from ABC News and it made me think…do these things really work.

Record-Breaking Petition Asks White House to Tackle Gun Control

In the wake of the school massacre in Newtown, Conn., record-setting numbers have signed online petitions urging that the federal government take action to halt gun violence.

Shortly after the deadly shooting of 26 children and adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School, a man identified as “David G” posted an online petition calling on the White House to “immediately address the issue of gun control through the introduction of legislation in Congress.”

Within hours, the petition, which was created on the White House “We the People” site, had surpassed the 25,000 electronic signatures required for the Obama administration to review the request. On Monday, it broke the record, becoming the petition with the most signatures ever submitted to the site.

As of midday today, the petition had 176,828 signatures and counting.

Okay, notice…no link to the actual petition they are talking about. I went to the We the People site, and found plenty of petitions for gun control. But I had to look hard for the petition this article is referring to.

It could be this one: Immediately address the issue of gun control through the introduction of legislation in Congress. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government

But check out the other petitions listed on the “all petition” page:

we petition the obama administration to:
30,010  Signatures
Oh…there are plenty of petitions, and here are the more popular ones:
we petition the obama administration to:
65,442  Signatures
34,498  Signatures
Check out the numbers of signatures on some of those wacky petitions. (Did you notice the ones from the pro-gun population?) Personally I think this is one that we all should sign:
Look at all those petitions…and this is only from the White House site…you can see more petitions regarding Newtown, CT/Sandy Hook Shooting here at Change.org – Start, Join, and Win Campaigns for Change

Connecticut Shooting

With so many petitions, many requesting the same thing…will the politicians finally get the message?  I just hope these petitions haven’t become another social media crap trap, just as all the “like” pages on Facebook…where you are only a number on the screen, and nothing more than an opportunity for ad agencies to target their products to your personal sensibilities.
Two more quick links before I go:
News trucks on Church Hill Road
News trucks line the streets near Sandy Hook Elementary

“Go home, please, go home, all of you.”

The man standing in front of me in the lobby of my hotel was not in the slightest bit aggressive, but he was very clear.

“It’s unbearable. What do you all want? I know four or five of the families who lost kids and it’s too much for them, with all the media here. What do you all want?”

Most of the rest of the lobby – and much of the hotel – was taken up by notebook-wielding, fleece-wearing, camera-toting journalists. But that’s just the start.

The village of Sandy Hook, the centre of which is little more than a crossroads, has been transformed.

Read what this reporter has to say…this quote below is very telling to me:

I have covered stories for 15 years in the field, some of the biggest, and have never seen anything like this, nor felt so uncomfortable about being part of it.

You know I love Sammy Jackson, and with that video link I turn it over to you!
This is a muthafukken open thread!

24 Comments on “Petitions…Petitions: Open Thread”

  1. That is a hell of a wish list isn’t it?

  2. HT says:

    the number of petitions and the trivial nature of most of them is eye opening. The Sandy Hook situation is distasteful. Can the media not respect the parents and friends and let them grieve in private? Sorry, I forgot – sensationalism is the media’s bread and butter and the people who watch without complaint are the media’s supporters. Honestly I think that the 6 or so companies that control the media should be legislated out of existence.

    • That is why I posted so many of them HT, it gets to a point that these petitions are nothing more that a game…or joke.

      • bostonboomer says:

        The media are disgraceful, hyping this story nonstop. I’m glad some folks in Newtown are speaking up to them, but they probably won’t leave until there’s another disaster to obsess about.

  3. Statement from NRA and they are having press conference on Friday:

    NRA to hold ‘major news conference’ on Friday

    NRA releases statement on Conn. shooting

    The statement reads:

    “The National Rifle Association of America is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters – and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown.

    “Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting.

    “The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again.

    “The NRA is planning to hold a major news conference in the Washington, DC area on Friday, December 21.

    “Details will be released to the media at the appropriate time.”

    • bostonboomer says:

      I’ll believe that when I see it.

    • HT says:

      While I’ve been drinking wine and my urge to vomit might be attributable to that, I have only had one glass,. Ergo, the urge to vomit is not attributible to the wine – ergo it’s attributible to the assholery that surrounds the asswipes that make up the NRA and their pseudo sadness PR contribution. These guys make money and more money from under the table sliding contributions from arms manufacturers. They don’t give a flying patootie about the mayhem these arms create, as long as they continue to live large on those big bucks. What was that line from the Michael Douglas film – something about greed being good?

    • List of X says:

      Press-conference on 12/21/2012? Are they hoping for the end of the world to avoid saying anything of substance?

  4. bostonboomer says:

    Can anyone see my avatar? It seems to have disappeared.

  5. bostonboomer says:

    This is from Fox News, so I don’t know whether to trust it, but the story says Nancy Lanza was working on paperwork to get conservatorship over Adam so she could have him committed.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/18/fear-being-committed-may-have-caused-connecticut-madman-to-snap/

    • Check it out:

      WP is giving me a hell of a time…

    • And the one who is the “source” of this info: Joshua Flashman (JoshuaFlashman) on Twitter

      @JoshuaFlashman

      Retired Marine Infantryman, aspiring model & actor, fitness enthusiast, Second Amendment expert (feel free to test me on that)

        • Joshua Flashman | Change.org

          Joshua commented on the petition
          8 months ago

          United States Congress: Repeal “The Hughes Amendment” of the FOPA

          The very purpose of the second amendment is to protect the citizens of the United States from possible tyranny in a future government. The phrase, “a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state” explains WHY the right of the people to keep and BEAR arms shall not be infringed. It has nothing to do with hunting and target shooting, and not much to do with self defense. It is about keeping the government in check, and in fear of becoming totalitarian, due to the possibility of an armed revolt from the militia, which is every able bodied male, ages 17-49. The militia, under peacetime and non-tyrannical circumstances, is there to defend the homeland and keep the peace. They report to the local sheriff, chief of police, governor, and ultimately the president, unless the federal government becomes totalitarian. It is NOT a bunch of rednecks in the woods planning on overthrowing the government, and it IS very real and constitution, no matter how outdated some may believe it to be. So, in essence, as long as someone qualifies as a member of the militia, they have the right to keep and bear arms. The ONLY CONSTITUTIONAL WAY to limit who may keep and bear arms is to update and define the militia as all legal American residents who are not a danger to themselves or others, which is most of the American population. But once you are qualified for the militia, (making it well regulated) YOUR RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED! That means that the government CANNOT tell you what kind of firearms you may own, how you may own them, how you may keep them, how you may CARRY THEM, or when and WHERE you may carry them, NOR how you may buy, sell, manufacture or important them either.

      • HT says:

        okey dokey, it this someone like that Gannon fellow who visited the white house – who created a resume that was ferocious?
        Good grief, we are going down the rabbit hole here. Seems to me that we have more than one late white rabbit to worry about. Alice had it easy.

      • quixote says:

        Cass Sunstein (yes, that one, the Harvard Law prof) provides interesting perspective on how recent the idea is that the Constitution somehow enshrines everybody’s right to shoot everybody.

        Short form: it doesn’t. It guarantees the right of states to have their own militias, separate from the federal government.

  6. bostonboomer says:

    Benghazi report puts blame on State Department.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/state-benghazi-report/?hpt=hp_t1

    • RalphB says:

      From what I read about Benghazi, the report could have only gone two ways. If they consider the “Special Mission” as a State Dept installation then it would as this one is written. If it was defined as what it really probably was, a CIA front, then the CIA would be responsible. Considering they would want to cover for the covert activities, chance of that were infinitely small.

      The other possibility would mean the reporting about them asking for more security was wrong. In which case, no scapegoat could be easily found and that’s also highly unlikely. So the report is no surprise.

  7. janicen says:

    I’d say my state’s governor is at least as bad as dak’s. McDonnell said we should begin a discussion about arming school officials. He also cautions about making policy during a highly emotional time because you can create bad policy. I guess that’s what happened with the transvaginal ultrasound bill.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/bob-mcdonnell-consider-guns-for-school-officials-85243.html