Updates on Wisconsin Hate Crime: White Power
Posted: August 6, 2012 Filed under: American Gun Fetish, Breaking News, Crime, Department of Homeland Security, fundamentalist Christians, Gun Control, religious extremists, right wing hate grouups, The Right Wing | Tags: Hate Crime, Neo-Nazis, Sikh Temple Shooting, skin heads, Wade Michael Page, white power bands 21 Comments »White Power. White Supremacy. Or whatever you may want to refer to it as, is hate. And that word hate can be applied to all sorts of people and religious organizations and political movements. There is no doubt in my mind that this mass murder against a group of people purely targeted because of the color of their skin, and the turbans on their heads, will happen again and again…
Here are some updates on the neo-nazi who killed six men, with dark complexions, wearing turbans.
Wade Michael Page Neo Nazi Photos | Neo Nazi Photos Sikh Temple Shooter | Mediaite
After authorities confirmed that Wade Michael Page, 40, was the lone gunman in Sunday’s tragic Sikh temple shooting in Oak Creek, Wisc., details began to leak about the shooter’s past. One particularly interesting story is that he was the member of a white supremacist “skinhead” punk group End Apathy, whose Myspace page confirms Page’s involvement in the band (with pictures).
A 2006 posting by Page on BandMix.com — a site used by aspiring musicians seeking other artists to join them — seems to detail when he recruited a bassist and drummer for End Apathy. On the site, he reveals that he is also a member of bands Definite Hate and 13 Knots. The posting is based out of “South Milwaukee, Wisconsin,” which neighbors the city of Oak Creek where the shootings took place.
There are a series of pictures at the link, but here is one that stands out to me at least:
Another heavily-discolored photo shows a Confederate flag in the practice space. While not necessarily an indicator of neo-Nazism, in this case the flag makes sense given many white supremacists’ infatuation with antebellum slavery.
A 2010 interview Page gave to Label 56, a white supremacist music site, further reveals his dabbling with neo-Nazism. Page indicated he went to the Hammerfest 2000 in Georgia, which was an annual “hate rock” festival organized by a skinhead group.
“That’s when I joined Youngland,” he said. Slate‘s Dave Weigel reports that was a white power band with lyrics like: “Stand one stand all, stand up, stand proud/and raise the white man’s flag.”
I have no doubt that Page would have supported this religious right prayer rally. Religious Right Groups Organize Nationwide September 11 Prayer Rallies | rightwingwatch.org
The group Awakening America is hoping that people on September 11 will head to their county courthouse to gather for Cry Out America. Organizations partnering with Cry Out America 2012 include the Family Research Council, the Christian Broadcasting Network, The Call, Intercessors for America, Teen Mania and 40 Days to Save America. They hope that the prayer rally will bring about a revival that will lead to a “decrease in divorce rates, co-habitation [and] same-sex relations,” along with “the restoration of Christ’s influence in the arts, media, and communications.”
Hmmmm, seems like those bands mentioned in the Mediaite link would fit in with that twisted sense of Christ influencing the arts.
Okay, maybe I am taking that a bit further than I should, but these people believe that they are part of a supreme white race, and right-wing extremism is connected with right wing Christianity.
Just a few other opinions and links regarding the shooting, hate and Page.
Dissent Of The Day – The Dish | By Andrew Sullivan – The Daily Beast
A reader writes:
I am appalled with your choice for Face of the Day. I realize that the words you used to accompany the picture were not designed to whip up anti-Sikhism in the same way the picture was, but the picture, with its violent, retributive elements, is stronger than the text.
Last night, I watched CNN as Don Lemon interviewed the president of an American Sikh organization. I also saw an interview with the nephew of the Wisconsin’s temple’s president. The nephew’s uncle was seriously injured and the nephew had spoken directly with eyewitnesses. Both men impressed me with their kindness, their calmness, and their clear commitment to retaining the values of their religion as they spoke. They also were clearly not anti-American. They reminded me most of those Amish who were magnanimous after a madman killed many of their children.
Are Sikhs saints? No more than members of any other religion. I am aware that Sikh extremists murdered Indira Gandhi and almost certainly were responsible for bringing down Air India Flight 182, out of Vancouver. But on the day after American Sikhs were murdered for no good reason, and quite possibly because someone saw them in exactly the threatening terms that you chose to accentuate by using that image, why focus on that image?
I saw the image the reader is talking about, click the link to see it if you like. It bothered me as well…Please read the rest of this post because there is another interesting link made to a documentary commentary:
Ebert highlights a clip from Dastaar: Defending Sikh Identity, a documentary that “presents the struggle of the Sikh American community against discrimination and violence caused by ignorance of an essential symbol of the Sikh faith — the dastaar , or turban.”
Here are a few recent postings that you may not have seen yet:
The Certainty of Even More Shootings – James Fallows – The Atlantic
The mass shooting at the Sikh temple seems even more horrifying than most. Of course victims are just as dead no matter what a killer’s motive. But here the “best” case interpretation would be that the gunman was merely one more psychopath who decided to take out his madness by shooting into a mass of innocents — like those in Aurora or Tucson, at Virginia Tech, and so on — rather than someone attempting to launch flat-out racial or religious war.
Is it time to talk about guns yet?
The suspect in the horrific shooting at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin has now been identified. He is Wade Michael Page, a 40-year-old army vet and described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a “frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white power band.” He’d also washed out of the army after a reduction in rank for being drunk on the job and was ineligible for enlistment. He may also have just broken up with his girlfriend. Tell me again why we don’t worry about violent white men or their sense of entitlement?
He also had a 9/11 tattoo and an apparent inability to tell brown people apart. An inability he shared with a lot of dumbshits in this country…
I will end with Charlie Pierce:
Wisconsin Shooting: Is It Time to Talk About Gun Control Yet? – Esquire
The Sikh temple outside Milwaukee that this Sunday became the location of the most recent mass murder by firearm in this freedom-loving country is one of those strange, wonderful huge things that pop up along the side of the road when you least expect to see something like a Sikh temple. It’s one of those things that can make you smile and, on a glorious summer’s day like this Sunday, contemplate what a diverse and fascinating place this country really can be, so long as we keep a grip on the dark and terrible impulses that too many people have become too rich and too powerful enabling at this time in history.
The law is calling this an act of “domestic terrorism,” which at least is a start, if not nearly the beginning. The guy who shot up the temple — an Army veteran with an arsenal at his disposal so sufficient that they’ve cordoned off an entire block in downtown Cudahy — behaved in every particular the way that a terrorist would. He killed his first victims, and then he opened up on the cops that came to help them. That’s the kind of murderous calculation that a terrorist makes. Call in a bomb threat to a building and then set the bomb outside on the sidewalk. People have done that overseas. We have our terms straight on this one, at least.
(And can we spare a minute and recall the howls of the various flying monkeys a couple of years ago when the Department of Homeland Security came to the unremarkable conclusion that rightwing domestic terrorist groups might be recruiting people who were being mustered out of the military? To its disgrace, DHS ducked and covered on its findings. I think this case might at least prompt further research. You can scroll down here to see the defensive whinging in embryo.)
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This is the second mass murder by gunfire here in a month. Is it time to talk about gun control yet? We are an armed and dangerous society at a perilous and uncertain time, and there are far too many people who look at that combustible combination of circumstances and see, not a national problem, but a financial and political opportunity. It is time to stop listening to them. It is time to deafen ourselves to the professional paranoids and the people who enrich themselves while stepping through the blood of their fellow citizens. (I am, by the way, not optimisticthat this will happen.)










Just thought I would bring this up to the front page…
Here are more op/eds:
I don’t like the title of this one, something about it bothers me…but here it is: Response to Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting reaffirms American values – baltimoresun.com
This from CNN:
Today, we are all American Sikhs – CNN.com
Another from Baltimore Sun:
Killing at Wisconsin Sikh temple follows the post-9/11 pattern – baltimoresun.com
From Detroit:
Sikhs in metro Detroit fear misdirected hate is behind Wisconsin temple attack | Metro Detroit | Detroit Free Press | freep.com
And from Boston Herald: Hate breeds our own terrorists, too – BostonHerald.com
Just a few from around the country, thought it would be a good way to get the discussion going…
http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2012/08/05/what-we-dont-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-terrorism/
The SPLC has been tracking this dude for more than a decade … exactly what does that say about the FBI?
@ Dak
I know, right?
Sikh temple shooting: Gunman had been on investigators’ radar – latimes.com
Hey, the police are looking for another person of interest: FBI: Seeking second “person of interest” in Oak Creek Sikh temple shooting – JSOnline
This may be a second shooter since reports said the shooter had a 9/11 tattoo and the FBI found no such tattoo on Wade’s body. Hope they find him fast.
Uh oh…
The article says they’ve ruled that guy out. The 9/11 tattoo is worrying. It doesn’t seem like that is something people made a mistake about.
Yeah, that would be something to remember specifically…
And then there is this: Joplin mosque razed in fire; 2nd blaze this summer | ajc.com
Just another “unfortunate event” that will draw a “no comment” from candidate Romney.
This is one of those events when everything either crawls out of or into the woodwork. I noticed that on some Right Wing blogs this story is either conspicuous by it’s absence or bloggers are kissing their own ass trying to play this as not about race, muslims, or hatred toward “the other”. We all know what this is, we knew it the minute the news broke yesterday.
FWIW…..Pat Robertson is so desperate about this that he’s claiming it happened because
“people who are atheists, they hate God.” Really? Pat Robertson is blaming atheists? What a sick, mentally perverted old man pat robertson is.
Not to change subject, women’s US Soccer team won, thank you, Alice Morgan and our Girl from Palo Cedro, Ca. Megan…………………..Yay Megan and Alice, and the rest of the team.
I got to see it! But I thought it would never end, ha. But it was great.
I am so glad I watched it too.
That is great…good for them.
Hey all! Maybe in all the volumes of info out there, I missed this, but has there been any reporting as to why THIS community was targeted?
Hillary 2012
They have not come out with an exact motive…but this may be something: Sikhs say attacks on community are ‘collateral damage’ of 9/11 | World news | guardian.co.uk
A few updates: Obama: America needs soul searching on gun violence | Reuters
Officials: Wisconsin Temple Gunman Wade Page Associated with ‘Hate Group’ – ABC News
Ex-stepmother of Sikh temple gunman remembers son – CBS News