Sunday Reads: Honestly, and I am being honest here…

Ron Paul is an ass.

Perhaps I should word that a bit differently…Ron Paul is a jackass…if you prefer.

Hell, ass is used in the bible so the fundies shouldn’t have a problem with it.

And honestly, I don’t care if they do have a problem with it.

I am not sure Ron Paul, and the rest of the PLUBs for that matter, are fully aware of just how ridiculous their argument about “abortion lovin’…full term, nine pound baby killers” sounds to a rational person. I’ve written my reaction to this below…but first, here are some thoughts on his “honest rape” statement from those around the blogosphere.

Late Night FDL: If It’s an Honest Rape… | Firedoglake

Just what is a dishonest rape?

I don’t understand this notion that women who support reproductive freedom, choice (and it is my body dammit), translates into “liking abortion,” as if needing an abortion is a desirable, even enjoyable situation.

And also as well, from GottaLaff:

Is this what you call “small government”? Because, call me crazy, but your government intrusion into women’s reproductive rights isn’t exactly hands-off.

Misogyny is never pretty.

First, what exactly is the definition of an “honest rape.” Ron Paul, What Exactly Is An “Honest Rape” | Care2 Causes

Just in case there was any question, Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) is no friend to women. The latest evidence came during an interview on CNN where he told Piers Morgan that only in cases of “honest rape” would he consider abortion acceptable, and even then in he would just advise the woman to go to the emergency room for “a shot of estrogen.”

“Honest rape”. So, where do we begin?

I guess I would start by asking Paul to follow-up on just what exactly constitutes an “honest” rape. What kind of evidence would we need to show a lack of consent? Does a woman need to have signs she resisted? How much resistance counts before a rape goes from being “fraudulent” to being “honest”? Can spousal rape ever be “honest”? What about other forms of familial rape? What exactly is the bright line here?

Let’s be honest, Paul and his cohorts of misogynistic hate don’t have an exact definition of honest rape, because in their mind…women have to be submissive, men must control them.  To them women are not deserving of respect, period. They see women as second class citizens.  Women do not warrant the distinction of enjoying the same “rights” and “privileges” as men, therefore, women have no real cause to cry rape.

So with that kind of mindset, the phrase “honest rape” is nothing more than a condescending jab to put women in their place.

As I was looking up news items on Paul’s honest rape statement I ran across this, Belief in sex consent studied as rape definition.  It is an article dated June 5th 1980, and it regards a case where a man is accused of raping a woman. The defense in this case asked,

…whether a man should be convicted of rape if he honestly believes his victim consented to intercourse.

Citing a recent Canadian Supreme Court decision which said:

..honest belief is a legitimate defense.

The Canadian Supreme Court ruling, which “drew the women’s wrath…” is described in detail here.

I use this archaic decision from Canada to make a point about the status of women according to Ron Paul, and his attitude that men draw the line when it comes to any issue regarding women.

Listen to his story about some woman, I guess I should preface that with “abortion liking” woman, who attempted to have a discussion about Paul’s pro-life stance on a woman’s right to choose whether or not to have an abortion.  Paul uttered phrases like “abortion liking” and aborting 7 month fetuses and killing a nine pound baby a day before it emerges from the womb…

He says the women tell him he is not defining abortion the same way they are defining abortion, in other words, that he is taking it out of context…but his response is to disregard the woman’s point entirely…in his mind he is right, the women who try to argue with him are not worthy enough for his consideration.

The entire episode is something we see repeatedly. Obviously, it is ridiculous for me to even try to explain the anti-woman message he is delivering in these interviews. I guess I should just go back into the kitchen and make him some pie…because servitude is the bottom line when it comes to the opinion of women from people like Ron Paul.

Nope, there is no such thing as rape, or a woman’s right to say no, or a woman’s right to make their own decisions as an individual identity. In Paul’s world, men have that “right” to honestly believe women are not equal to men.

Well, I have other links for you this morning, and since I am writing the post so damn late, I will just list the news items for you…

Yesterday, the big news was Russia and China Block U.N. Action on Syrian Crisis – NYTimes.com

The veto and the mounting violence underlined the dynamics shaping what is proving to be the Arab world’s bloodiest revolt: diplomatic stalemate and failure as Syria plunges deeper into what many are already calling a civil war. Diplomats have lamented their lack of options in pressuring the Syrian government, and even some Syrian dissidents worry about what the growing confrontation will mean for a country reeling from bloodshed and hardship.

The veto is almost sure to embolden the government of President Bashar al-Assad, which brazenly carried out the assault on Homs on the day that the Security Council had planned to vote. It came, too, around the anniversary of its crackdown in 1982 on another Syrian city, Hama, by Mr. Assad’s father, Hafez, in which at least 10,000 people were killed in one of the bloodiest episodes in modern Arab history.

“It’s quite clear — this is a license to do more of the same and worse,” said Peter Harling, an expert on Syria at the International Crisis Group. “The regime will take it for granted that it can escalate further. We’re entering a new phase that will be far more violent still than what we’ve seen now.”

This from Alan George: The Assad regime’s only purpose is to stay in power – Middle East – World – The Independent

There will be much hand-wringing in the West at China and Russia’s refusal yesterday to endorse a robust censure of the Syrian regime. But even if Moscow’s position had been different, little would have changed. The beleaguered regime of Bashar al-Assad is simply not amenable to diplomatic pressure. It is interested only in clinging to power, at whatever cost to the Syrian people and regardless of the consequences.

Already, somewhere between 5,500 and 7,500 people have been killed, and perhaps 35,000 seriously wounded. Tens of thousands have been imprisoned and thousands have simply disappeared. Torture is rife. There are some 20,000 refugees, mainly in neighbouring Turkey and Lebanon. There’s every reason to believe that it can only get worse.

Many of the Syrian protesters have been clamouring for outside intervention to protect them from their government’s ruthless onslaught. But the reality is that there is little the outside world can do, short of intervening militarily. After Libya, that’s not on the cards. The Arab League has tried and failed to mediate a solution. Neighbouring Turkey supports the opposition, but not to the extent of invading Syria on its behalf. Economic sanctions have had a serious effect, but not enough to bring down the regime. Bashar al-Assad and his family know that the most they have to fear from the UN – even if the Russians drop their protective veto – are toothless resolutions.

The full text of Susan Rice’s statement regarding the UN Security Council meeting and vote can be found here: Explanation of Vote by Ambassador Susan E. Rice, U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations, At a Security Council Session on Syria, February 4, 2012

Mr. President, the United States is disgusted that a couple of members of this Council continue to prevent us from fulfilling our sole purpose here-addressing an ever-deepening crisis in Syria and a growing threat to regional peace and security.

For months this Council has been held hostage by a couple of members. These members stand behind empty arguments and individual interests while delaying and seeking to strip bare any text that would pressure Asad to change his actions. This intransigence is even more shameful when you consider that at least one of these members continues to deliver weapons to Asad.

There are also reports that Assad’s regime has released the terrorist behind the 7/7 attacks in London.  Syria releases the 7/7 ‘mastermind’ – Telegraph

Abu Musab al-Suri had been held in Syria for six years after being captured by the CIA in 2005 and transported to the country of his birth under its controversial extraordinary rendition programme.

But he is now said to have been released as a warning to the US and Britain about the consequences of turning their backs on President al-Assad’s regime as it tries to contain the uprising in the country.

Meanwhile, in Russia, Anti-Putin protest makes a splash – Europe – World – The Independent

Tens of thousands of Muscovites endured icy temperatures of around minus 20 degrees to attend a protest march against Vladimir Putin yesterday.

A month before the Russian Prime Minister stands for re-election as president to the Kremlin, the first major rally since the New Year showed that the anti-government protests which began after parliamentary elections in early December are not just going to go away.

After the march yesterday, a number of opposition leaders addressed the crowds from the stage. One ripped up a portrait of Mr Putin to loud cheers, while others demanded new, free elections. “Russia without Putin,” the crowd chanted repeatedly. The organisers claimed 120,000 people had attended.

Over here in the US, Romney won the Nevada Caucus yesterday. The only thing I have to say about that is to post a link to this cartoon:

Cagle Post » Poor Little Rich Boy

From Minx’s Missing Link File: Inuit Insight on Fear of Killer Whales : Discovery News

Biologists from Manitoba visited 11 Canadian Nunavut Inuit communities and collated information from over 100 interviews with hunters and elders as part of this research. They published their results yesterday in the open access journal Aquatic Biosystems, saying that the increase in hunting territories available to killer whales in the Arctic due to climate change and melting sea ice could “seriously affect the marine ecosystem balance.”

Killer whales are top marine predators wherever they are found. The whales “seem to eat everything from schools of small fish to large baleen whales, over twice their own size,” reported the biologists. “Aarlirijuk,” or the fear of killer whales, apparently influences the behavior of killer whales’ prey. Smaller mammals seek refuge in shallow waters or on shore, and larger prey run away, dive deep, or attempt to hide among the ice. Even narwhal, which are capable of stabbing a killer whale with their tusks (although this is likely to result in the deaths of both animals), will run to shallow waters and wait until the whales give up.

[…]

Inuit were also able to describe first-hand how killer whales hunted, including several reports of how killer whales co-operated to kill the much larger bowhead. During the hunt some whales were seen holding the bowhead’s flippers or tail, others covering its blowhole, and others biting or ramming to cause internal damage. Occasionally dead bowheads, with bite marks and internal injuries but with very little eaten, are found by locals.

Easy Like Sunday Morning Link of the Week: Here is an article by James Wolcott,  Portrait of the Artist as a Young Chain-Ganger | Blogs | Vanity Fair

All Me, a documentary about the African-American artist Winfred Rembert directed by Vivian Ducat, tugs the viewer along amiably and then takes you into a darker place, a chapter of history that even the most well-meaning movies set during the civil rights have prettified, Hollywood being Hollywood. At first All Me seems like a folksy, inspirational, educational portrait of an accidental, self-taught,  artist that could be condensed into a segment on CBS’s Sunday Morning, the perfect complement to the first sip of hazelnut coffee. Born in Georgia in 1945, Rembert leads us on a tour through his past, the juke joints and barber shops and churches, Saturdays at “Colored Folks’ Corner” where you had to watch out for a character nicknamed Black Masterson, who’d hit you with the horseshoe he always carried around just for the hell of it, the daily hell of picking cotton in the broiling sun for fifty cents or a buck a day, which he started doing at the strapping age of six. (Cotton balls are the pointillistic dots of his Southern scenes.) Even the hardship, the indignities of being called nigger by white storeowners, and the thick humid air of intimidation that clung during the Jim Crow era are related in a manner that relegates them to a past that we can feel safely put to bed, this country after all what Gore Vidal called the United States of Amnesia.

Please read the rest of Wolcott’s piece at the link.

Since it is getting late, almost 9am, I will finish it up here.

What are you all reading about today? See you down in the comment section later on…

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28 Comments on “Sunday Reads: Honestly, and I am being honest here…”

  1. Minkoff Minx says:

    Sorry today’s reads was posted so late, I could not write it last night…too damn tired, so I wrote it this morning…

    • foxyladi14 says:

      that,s ok.sweetie.I slept in. :lol:

    • bostonboomer says:

      Excellent post, MInx. Ron Paul is a nasty racist, misogynistic hillbilly bully. You did a great job of skewering him.

      • northwestrain says:

        I second that. Way back in the 70s and before — professors were telling their classes that female humans could not be raped. This old myth has been around for a long time and I thought it had died but with some of the jury “not guilty” of rape verdicts — males are still lying.

        Rape culture — Ron Paul wants to be the high priest of the church of misogynistic worship.

      • Minkoff Minx says:

        Thank you…the war on women has been going on for a long time. I hope the Komen Krap will kick women in the ass and get them involved in fighting for their rights.

        Have you seen this site: Unbreakable

        It is full of “Honest Rape” victims…

        This project was created in October of 2011 by Grace Brown. Grace uses photography to help heal those who were sexually abused by asking them to write a quote from their attacker on a poster and photographing them holding the poster. Rape survivor and advocate for victims of sexual abuse, Yvonne Moss, describes the project as a way for victims to take the power back of the words that were once used against them.

  2. Pat Johnson says:

    Late or not Mink, it was worth waiting for.

    “HONEST RAPE”? “LIKING ABORTION”? Where is this putrid fool coming from?

    We have GOP candidates blatantly admitting their bias and bigotry and are not feeling the repurcussions of these statements since it appears that some of the electorate is still out there casting votes for them.

    Consider that Romney, who shies away from discussing his long term attachment to the Mormon Church, not to mention his hefty contributions as a member of this hierarchy, is not asked about the money that this church donated to overturning Prop 8 in Calif.

    None of these men are supportive of women by any stretch of the imagination and their own statements bear this out.

    Who can possibly justify electing these men to office when they already come with inherent bias towards groups of people they expect to lead?

    • Minkoff Minx says:

      Thanks for saying it was worth the wait…I don’t know Pat, while reading some of those old articles, from the 80’s it just makes me see that we really haven’t come far when it comes to women’s rights, and the misogynistic attitude hasn’t changed at all.

      (I’m going back to bed…feel a cold coming on…see you all later.)

      • Fannie says:

        That is a constant in my mind…………….we haven’t come far, and not much has really changed.

      • joanelle says:

        Great post Minx. Clearly he knows nothing about abortion – and until these numbnuts are able to become pregnant they should not speak out against it. No woman who I have known who has ever had an abortion was happy about it, didn’t “like” abortion, agonized over the decision and did it out of necessity. I’m sure there are some who see it as a “way out” but it really isn’t anything that the average woman takes lightly.
        Ass is a good description but he’s also proven himself a first class jerk.

      • foxyladi14 says:

        it,s the danged weather. :wink:

  3. Jeez Louise, Minx. Way to knock it out of the park and kick some asses. I prefer asses, since jackasses are cute, innocent animals, whereas humans pretty much such – especially the misogynistic male ones.

    My first reaction when I saw the Paul statement last night: he is saying women are liars (really was it rape or did you decide at 7 months that you just don’t want to be bothered with a kid?) or they are just too damn stupid to be trusted to make decisions on their own.

    IMO both Russia & China are voting their own self interest. They arbitrarily & kill dissenters in their countries & they don’t want to be censured for doing so. They support the practice so see no problem in what Assad is doing.

    The Orca piece, while disturbing, is interesting, especially after the news story recently about how the giant burmese pythons in the Everglades have decimated the mammal population. All animals have a mixture of inherent (born with) & learned behaviors. As one moves up the evolutionary tree from fish to reptiles to amphibs to birds to mammals, the percentage of learned vs inherent increases. One of the most important behavior types for prey animals is knowing what predators to avoid & how to avoid them so as not to get eaten. The pythons have been successful in killing Everglades mammals is because pythons are non-native species & these mammals don’t have the knowledge or skills to avoid predation. The behavior described in your piece indicates that the Orca’s prey animals know Orcas as likely predators and taking avoidance actions. So although climate change (not to mention loss of primary prey due to human causes, like overfishing) may have increased the Orca’s range, apparently these species, at some time in their evolution, have encountered each other.

    Now I need to follow the link to the last entry. I just had to respond first to the other pieces. And I finally got into naked capitalism and hate to admit it’s more than a bit over my head. I was a math geek, but that never extended to economics. Afraid I need dak’s Economics For Dummies version – but I did get that the Schneiderman task force ain’t as good as some of us had hoped. I did read this & wished I liked to travel & lived on the West Coast: http://travel.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/travel/new-lures-for-an-elysian-isle-close-to-los-angeles.html?src=dayp And don’t forget to check out Moyers & Co, new episode today: http://billmoyers.com/ But I started my day off with this oldie but goodie at Tennessee Guerilla Women: http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2012/02/colberts-legendary-defense-of-planned.html

  4. Minkoff Minx says:

    Clinton calls for ‘friends of democratic Syria’ to unite against President Assad | World news | The Guardian

    Speaking in Sofia a day after the collapse of the UN security council resolution, the US secretary of state said the international community had a duty to halt ongoing bloodshed and promote a political transition that would see Assad step down. She said the “friends of Syria” should work together to promote those ends.

    Clinton was harshly critical of Saturday’s veto by Russia and China that blocked UN action against the continuing violence in Syria. “What happened yesterday at the United Nations was a travesty,” she said.

    “Faced with a neutered security council, we have to redouble our efforts outside of the United Nations with those allies and partners who support the Syrian people’s right to have a better future,” Clinton told reporters after meeting top Bulgarian officials.

    Okay, now I am really going back to bed, cheers!

  5. dakinikat says:

    K’naan has asked Romney to stop using his song “waving flag”. Can you imagine any song less representative of Romney?

    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2012/02/knaan-takes-a-minute-with-romney.html?mbid=social_retweet?mbid=social_mobile_tweet

  6. dakinikat says:

    Komen clearly is going to continue using partisan hacks. Therefore, no more money to Komen EVER.

    UPDATE: Komen confirms continued involvement of Ari Fleischer on Planned Parenthood strategy | Yesterday, ThinkProgress exclusively reported Ari Fleischer’s involvement — dating back at least to December — with the Komen Foundation, including issues related to Planned Parenthood. Tonight, the Washington Post reports that Komen is now publicly confirming that Fleischer, a prominent right-wing pundit and former press secretary for George W. Bush, will help “on crisis communications” related to Planned Parenthood. Komen stressed that Fleischer, who is a long-time critic of Planned Parenthood, “had nothing to do with the funding decision.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/02/04/419020/update-komen-announces-continued-involvement-of-ari-fleischer-on-planned-parenthood-strategy/

  7. dakinikat says:

    Aborted Fetuses: The Awkward Guests at Your Super Bowl Party

    http://motherjones.com/mojo/2012/01/aborted-fetuses-randall-terry-super-bowl

    Nothing says “pass the dip” like a bloody fetus. Normally, Terry wouldn’t be able to get these kinds of ads on television. So he’s launching a non-serious campaign for president (running as a Democratic challenger to President Obama) in order to exploit a loophole in Federal Communications Commission rules that requires station to run campaign ads in the weeks ahead of a primary election—no matter how grisly they might be. In the 45 days ahead of a primary and 60 days ahead of a general election, candidates for federal office can run whatever they want on local stations, as long as they pay for the airtime.

    Yes, the FCC can try to fine you a half-million dollars for a “wardrobe malfunction,” but bundles of bloody body parts is A-okay.

    • Tim says:

      You know, I hate to do this, but I’m going to play the British card. I’m from the UK and a man and I’m having difficulty understanding how, in the 21st century, the issue of abortion, if it even is an issue with overpopulation one of the greatest threats to the human race, let alone the idea that a woman should carry her rapist’s baby to full term, has become a major issue in the 2012 presidential race. Maybe it’s because I’m not a misogynist, or a rapist.
      Can someone please explain it to me, I really am confused.

      • bostonboomer says:

        We’re having the same difficulty you are. Unfortunately, there is a minority of people in this country who have been brainwashed by “dominionist” cults. The religious right hardly paid any attention to the abortion issue until years after the Roe v. Wade decision. Leaders of that movement made a conscious decision to use the “pro-life” issue to increase donations to their cults. It worked so well that now there are people like Rick Santorum who are completely obsessed with what other people do in bed and with zygotes and fetuses–and these people are actually taken seriously as presidential candidates.

        It’s insane.

      • dakinikat says:

        One of the parties has been over run with religious fundamentalists. It seems we have our own brand of Taliban and they’re all running as republicans to force christofascist laws on us. They especially seem to have a problem with women who don’t want to be the property of men.

      • Tim says:

        Thanks BB, I think I understand why I’m not weird for not thinking about abortion as a topic for discussion now and am glad that there is a majority of people in the US who aren’t really thinking that way either. I mean, no-one can surely want a woman to have to get into a custody battle with her rapist? And imagine having to explain to that kid why he/she doesn’t see their dad? It really is insane.

  8. peggysue22 says:

    Paul’s comments were so over-the-top on the issue of rape, it’s a wonder anyone takes the man seriously. For all the progressives pointing to Paul as a torch bearer for his foreign policy stands, I wish they’d [just for once] consider where he stands on other issues. Plucking a few good apples off a poisoned tree is still likely to poison you.

    I listened to another whacko libertarian speil, a George Mason prof, spill the beans on domestic issues [social security, medicare and medicaid], saying how the real class warfare is not against the 1% but . . . the elderly. All the grammies and pop-pops are filthy rich, doncha know, and are stealing from the young. That’s where the Occupy people’s rage should turn–on their grandparents.

    And we’ll scream ‘LIBERTY” as we strangle them all. I’ll have to clue my in-laws in about their economic status. I’m sure my father-in-law will get a belly laugh.

    Paul deserves to be time spun back to 1900–his fav year. Then anyone writing on the mere issue of birth control, contraception or anything sexually-related could be frog-marched to jail.

    Oh yeah–the good ole days. Puhle-e-ese!

    • northwestrain says:

      I’m sure all the grandmas and grandpas working at Walmart — because it’s do that or starve or do without vital meds — will be glad to know that they are so very rich. At every RV park we meet full timers (retired folk) who move around to Walmart stores with openings or bagging at Safeway etc.

  9. Woman Voter says:

    The end result is that more women will be hurt by not having access to health care. In this economy women are holding down two part time jobs to keep the family afloat. Not to mention that Super Bowl is the most dangerous day for women of Domestic Violence:

    National Domestic Violence Hotline 1-800-799-SAFE (7233)

  10. purplefinn says:

    Super Bowl is the most dangerous day for women of Domestic Violence

    I believed this for a long time, but it has been refuted. http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/superbowl.asp

    Turns out it’s an “average” day for domestic violence. That’s depressing enough.